The lying front bottom said that he never received offers from the federal government to supply trained ADF members to assist with quarantine...

Stop what you are doing.. WATCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbte8aZLcA

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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yeah, he's one creepy dude.

he stared straight into the camera the night after they handcuffed the pregnant girl and said with a straight face "i have not seen the footage".

it had screened on international media and was seen by every other victorian but dan said he had not seen it.

obviously a lie .

are you telling me a premier doesnt watch something like that with all the implications it brings

so not just a liar but a pathological liar.

his belt and road ties are concerning.

my contacts in victoria say that he has it in for the abbatoirs down there.

he stated in a media release that there is a special problme with covid in meatworks :o :o :o, almost implying the virus can be caught off cattle. :o :o :o :o :o.
these meatworks will not be able to supply the christmas market, not running at 1/2 capacity.

he has an intention to demolish them , first with the dearest electricity in the world and now a singling out for shutdown.

he has already sold the diary industry to china.
tick of approval to the $600 million purchase of Lion Dairy and Drinks by China's Mengniu Dairy Company, rejecting concerns about reduced milk market competition in Victoria's Gippsland region

beef will be next...now it is crippled.


a letter from dan


The Chinese community has
been a part of our
community even before
Victoria was a State. In
1901, a traditional Chinese
dragon marched through the
streets of Melbourne in the
official parade that marked
the formation of our country.
And every year since, the
sheer ingenuity and integrity
of Chinese migrants and visitors has helped make our state a
prouder, more prosperous place. It’s always been this way
– and it always will.
More Chinese students are studying at our universities, and
we are honoured to host them. More Chinese tourists are
visiting the beautiful reaches of our state. More Chinese
businesses are investing here in Victoria: Australia’s industrial
heartland and its capital of new ideas.
It’s a special partnership that’s built not on transactions, but
on trust and tradition. We can’t take it for granted. We want
to refine and perfect this partnership so it is even stronger in
the future. That’s what our New China Strategy is all about.
I travelled to China in September 2015, in my first official
overseas visit as Premier of Victoria. And I pledge to visit
China every subsequent year that I am privileged to hold this
office. While I was there, I had many conversations with our
Chinese friends about how we can work together as partners.
I’m proud to tell you that Victoria and Jiangsu Province – our
oldest and most enduring sister state relationship – have
joined forces under a new innovation and technological
agreement. We’ll be converting our best ideas into shared
commercial interests that will support the next generation of
Chinese and Victorian growth.
I can also tell you that Victoria and China’s booming Sichuan
Province will work towards becoming sister states in 2016.
This is a big deal.
This new relationship will be Victoria’s anchor in China’s
fastest growing region and our gateway to its people.
Our cooperation will centre on the liveability of our cities.
We’ll be working together to build smart and sustainable
cities for the next century – sharing our ideas in design,
environmental protection, education and health.

Businesses here in Victoria tell me they want more assistance
to reach into Asian markets. They want a louder voice.
And our new China Strategy sets a target to make Victoria the
nation’s Asian gateway – the place to go if you want to gain
insight and get the deal done.
There’s so much China and Victoria can achieve together.
We both have our economic challenges, but our combined
potential is greater than all of them.
On behalf of the Victorian Government, I am so proud to
hand down our new China Strategy. Ours is a powerful
partnership. And it will only get stronger from here.
The Hon Daniel Andrews MP
Premier of Victoria


and the chinese feel just as warmly
towards dan
The Andrews Government of Victoria has seized this historic
opportunity in developing a new China Strategy. Outlining a
practical plan for Victoria’s cooperation with China, the
Strategy reflects the profound thinking and far-sighted
vision of Premier Andrews and his government on the
China-Victoria relationship. In the process of developing this
Strategy, the Andrews Government reached out to Jiangsu
and Sichuan and embraced their ideas, making sure the
Strategy is a well-targeted and effective one. What’s more
impressive is that a Chinese version of the Strategy is to be
released together with the English version.
I warmly congratulate the introduction of this Strategy, and
am convinced that the Strategy will live up to expectations.
As Consul-General of China in Melbourne, I am delighted to
witness that China-Victoria cooperation bears rich fruit. It is
my duty and my will to continue to spare no efforts in
promoting this mutually beneficial relationship.
Mr Song Yumin
Chinese Consul General in Melbourne

John Smith wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:03pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lol

the trouble with polls like that are that they are subject to algorhthyms and AI which you can tweak so a yes vote gets shared to all the responders contacts or vice versa.

meaning they mean nothing.

its like a poll saying do you approve of trump which the algorhythm shares to everyone wearing a maga hat.

Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians

Chairman Dan has killed 768 Victorians so far, with a little help from the virus

80% of the complaint about Andrews is that he has been too harsh ?

So should he have taken more ADF and been more harsh or do you want to stick with the opposite complaint ?

aquascoot wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:03pm: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lol the trouble with polls like that are that they are subject to algorhthyms and AI which you can tweak so a yes vote gets shared to all the responders contacts or vice versa. meaning they mean nothing. its like a poll saying do you approve of trump which the algorhythm shares to everyone wearing a maga hat.

that was a poll run by Murdick and the Herald Sun, who have spent the last few months trying to get Dan thrown out .... any algorithms would have been geared AGAINST Dan... and still he kicked arse

How embarrassing for the herald and Murdick ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:30pm:

80% of the complaint about Andrews is that he has been too harsh ? So should he have taken more ADF and been more harsh or do you want to stick with the opposite complaint ?

Or just run the quarantine hotels properly, like all the other states have done.

Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001


According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well.

Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:06pm:

yeah, he's one creepy dude. he stared straight into the camera the night after they handcuffed the pregnant girl ...

How is the pregnancy relevant?

Dan De Nong.....

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:23pm:

Dan De Nong.....

The dear one  -

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Gordon wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:30pm: 80% of the complaint about Andrews is that he has been too harsh ? So should he have taken more ADF and been more harsh or do you want to stick with the opposite complaint ? Or just run the quarantine hotels properly, like all the other states have done.

The story is saying that they were to lock down suburbs working with police, there is no indication that the plan would have changed how Hotels were done ?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:06pm: yeah, he's one creepy dude. he stared straight into the camera the night after they handcuffed the pregnant girl ... How is the pregnancy relevant?

the pregnancy is relevant because most "normal' members of society and indeed most societies from an anthropological point of view give pregnant women a 'special status"

so it is more likely that a normal person would see the physical arrest of a pregnant woman as something where the pregnancy mattered.

but we are talking here about normal civil members of society.

an abnormal person (for example one who fetishly posted pictures of a politicians daughter all over the internet) would be ostracised by civil society and rightly so.

one can only imagine the consequences for a pervert who drew sexualised pictures of the daughters of henry VIII or chief sitting bull or an aboriginal elder and then smugly displayed them for the village to gawk at.
can you imagine the repercussions of this sort of perversion through 1000's of generations of our history.

to think that now some deviants think it is ok tio post sexuallly suggestive pictures of the daughter of donald trump for instance.
its quite disturbing
i cannot recall anyone from the noble right posting a picture of chelsea clinton for example.
a person who would post pictures of trumps daughter , for example, would be seen as a monster and outcast probably brutally tortued and murdered , and probably with some justification in any of our historical societies

Aqua,

Quote:

most "normal' members of society and indeed most societies from an anthropological point of view give pregnant women a 'special status"

hear hear sir Aqua,
Vic Pol have gone too far.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 5:39am:

Aqua, Quote: most "normal' members of society and indeed most societies from an anthropological point of view give pregnant women a 'special status" hear hear sir Aqua, Vic Pol have gone too far.

It is hard for society to deal with people who are trolling online
It would have been so much easier 200 years ago when you are dealing with them face to face

But just as a thought experiment
Imagine a middle aged Indian warrior
Path of chief sitting bulls tribe

Imagine that he sees a pregnant woman being rough handled by other men
And sitting Bull ask him what he saw
And he questions sitting bulls concern with the fact that the woman was pregnant

Then imagine this same middle aged tribal member
Starts rumours about setting bull and his 12 year old daughter

He starts drawing pictures of sitting bulls daughter
And circulates these around other tribal members
Implying that there is an inappropriate relationship between the chief and his daughter

how do you think that the other members of The tribe would react
How do you think the chief sitting bull would react

The Sioux were a noble respectful and harmonious society
But they could be brutal when they needed to be

It is highly likely in fact I would consider it a certainty
That anyone behaving in such a deviant way in such a society
Would be buried in an ant Hill
With their eyelids removed

What happens today in our modern society
Virtually nothing

This would seem to be the major contributor
To the lack of cohesion
Polarization and tribal infighting we now see

Interesting that tribes 200 years ago were cohesive
And now we think we are so superior
And yet we are tribal
And completely uncivil
And deviancy and bad faith go unpunished

The Vic police have no idea of how angry some
husband could become to see his pregnant wife being abused by cops in his own house.
That sort of behaviour will go badly one day for the cops.

Imagine if the husband was like Hulk Hogan and they did that?


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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:52pm:

The lying front bottom said that he never received offers from the federal government to supply trained ADF members to assist with quarantine... Stop what you are doing.. WATCH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbte8aZLcA

But Mechanic, you've been telling us that the virus is a hoax
How can a hoax kill people?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:52pm:

The lying front bottom said that he never received offers from the federal government to supply trained ADF members to assist with quarantine... Stop what you are doing.. WATCH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbte8aZLcA

I watched that video.
How will Dan worm his way out of that?

Also - all those public servants at the inquiry with amnesia?
Have their emails been searched by anyone
investigating it?
( that would include any emails hastily deleted)
They are like the Keystone cops -
totally incompetent.

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone  its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support...

labor would never have stopped shouting  the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State..

from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess  and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:30am:

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone  its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support... labor would never have stopped shouting  the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State.. from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess  and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... >:( >:( >:(

Hi Cods,
From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure.
No one person was in charge.
It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something.
No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility.
I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry.
There are are so many rules and regulations
that no one understands it.
They also give the man at the top
plausible deniability by deliberately
not informing him or her.
Everyone is arse covering.

People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:39am:

cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:30am: he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone  its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support... labor would never have stopped shouting  the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State.. from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess  and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... >:( >:( >:( Hi Cods, From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure. No one person was in charge. It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something. No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility. I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry. There are are so many rules and regulations that no one understands it. They also give the man at the top plausible deniability by deliberately not informing him or her. Everyone is arse covering. People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state.

if someone is admitting to that shamoz  then they should all be sacked for incompetence.......that isnt what we expect from any govt....it isnt what we pay for...

the longer this goes on   the worst they all look.....someone must have issued a directive.....could have even been a janitor. for all we know....

its all there somewhere...

I find the whole thing


deplorable..

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:39am: cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:30am: he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone  its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support... labor would never have stopped shouting  the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State.. from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess  and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... >:( >:( >:( Hi Cods, From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure. No one person was in charge. It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something. No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility. I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry. There are are so many rules and regulations that no one understands it. They also give the man at the top plausible deniability by deliberately not informing him or her. Everyone is arse covering. People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state. if someone is admitting to that shamoz  then they should all be sacked for incompetence.......that isnt what we expect from any govt....it isnt what we pay for... the longer this goes on   the worst they all look.....someone must have issued a directive.....could have even been a janitor. for all we know.... its all there somewhere... I find the whole thing deplorable..

Hi Cods,
That's what the public service is like everywhere.
Every decision is ultimately a political decision.
Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job
not what is good for the Dept. they work for.

People like me - with a big mouth -
who point out the obvious flaws don't last long
or get very far.

It's all about -
say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job.

You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:57am:

cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:43am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:39am: cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:30am: he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone  its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support... labor would never have stopped shouting  the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State.. from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess  and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... >:( >:( >:( Hi Cods, From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure. No one person was in charge. It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something. No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility. I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry. There are are so many rules and regulations that no one understands it. They also give the man at the top plausible deniability by deliberately not informing him or her. Everyone is arse covering. People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state. if someone is admitting to that shamoz  then they should all be sacked for incompetence.......that isnt what we expect from any govt....it isnt what we pay for... the longer this goes on   the worst they all look.....someone must have issued a directive.....could have even been a janitor. for all we know.... its all there somewhere... I find the whole thing deplorable.. Hi Cods, That's what the public service is like everywhere. Every decision is ultimately a political decision. Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job not what is good for the Dept. they work for. People like me - with a big mouth - who point out the obvious flaws don't last long or get very far. It's all about - say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job. You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list   and its not hard to form a picture...

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:57am: Hi Cods, That's what the public service is like everywhere. Every decision is ultimately a political decision. Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job not what is good for the Dept. they work for. People like me - with a big mouth - who point out the obvious flaws don't last long or get very far. It's all about - say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job. You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister" this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list   and its not hard to form a picture...

It's the same  problem everywhere in the entire world.

Keep your mouth shut and keep your job.
Especially -  make sure that the man at the top
doesn't know about what is really going on.
If you tell him you're a whistleblower but he's then under pressure too.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:11am:

cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 8:02am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:57am: Hi Cods, That's what the public service is like everywhere. Every decision is ultimately a political decision. Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job not what is good for the Dept. they work for. People like me - with a big mouth - who point out the obvious flaws don't last long or get very far. It's all about - say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job. You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister" this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list   and its not hard to form a picture... It's the same  problem everywhere in the entire world. Keep your mouth shut and keep your job. Especially -  make sure that the man at the top doesn't know about what is really going on. If you tell him you're a whistleblower but he's then under pressure too.

well I dont know about that....all I am thinking is if Dan thinks anyone is sucking up his silly responses  he has another think coming.....these people are responsible to US the voters.....not each other....its time this was brought home to all of them

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 8:11am: cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 8:02am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:57am: Hi Cods, That's what the public service is like everywhere. Every decision is ultimately a political decision. Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job not what is good for the Dept. they work for. People like me - with a big mouth - who point out the obvious flaws don't last long or get very far. It's all about - say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job. You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister" this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list   and its not hard to form a picture... It's the same  problem everywhere in the entire world. Keep your mouth shut and keep your job. Especially -  make sure that the man at the top doesn't know about what is really going on. If you tell him you're a whistleblower but he's then under pressure too. well I dont know about that....all I am thinking is if Dan thinks anyone is sucking up his silly responses  he has another think coming.....these people are responsible to US the voters.....not each other....its time this was brought home to all of them

I watched some excerpts from the inquiry.
A nurse found unbelievable wrong doings
with PPE and no training of the guards.
Of course that was never passed on to Daniel Andrews.
She did her best to solve it but
nothing could be done - the guards either wouldn't listen
or were too stupid to follow basic instructions.

The whole thing should have been stopped right there
and the cops called in -
but then again - what do the cops know about medical procedures?
It never happened.

Then - guards were found sleeping on the floor.
Other guards were bribed with a root from females
locked up who needed a cigarette outside.

People need to go to jail for life as over 650 people
have died from that incompetence.
It also cost 100s of 1000s of jobs.
Peoples financial lives have been destroyed by it.
Mental illness is everywhere.

What's the bet that no one gets punished?

bump

Take a ringside seat folks, pass the popcorn while we watch them play “pass the buck”... the show is about to start...
(I wonder how many suddenly will have amnesia  ::))

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193966287001

Sophia wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Take a ringside seat folks, pass the popcorn while we watch them play “pass the buck”... the show is about to start... (I wonder how many suddenly will have amnesia  ::)) https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193966287001

Don't worry Lols,

the Lord will punish the wicked:



Psalm 9    KJV


14  That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.

15  The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.

16  The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.

17  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

18  For the needy shall not alway be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever.

19  Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight.

20  Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:43pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 1:35pm: Take a ringside seat folks, pass the popcorn while we watch them play “pass the buck”... the show is about to start... (I wonder how many suddenly will have amnesia  ::)) https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193966287001 Don't worry Lols, the Lord will punish the wicked: Psalm 9    KJV 14  That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation. 15  The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken. 16  The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah. 17  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. 18  For the needy shall not alway be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever. 19  Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight. 20  Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.

Bobby... the “Lord” may do so... in the afterlife, but it’s the “Law” that does so during life ... that’s all we have for now... let’s hope it’s a good trial with truths, revelations, exposures, and remorse?... and not much in the way of cover ups, lies, blame game, forgetfulness etc  ::)

Sophia wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:54pm:

Bobby... the “Lord” may do so... in the afterlife, but it’s the “Law” that does so during life ... that’s all we have for now... let’s hope it’s a good trial with truths, revelations, exposures, and remorse?... and not much in the way of cover ups, lies, blame game, forgetfulness etc  ::)

Somehow I feel this inquiry will be like so many others -
no one will receive even the slightest punishment.

Most are victims of a useless command and control structure.


Study the fall of France in 1940 -
the French army and air force were stronger than the Germans
but decisions that should have taken 1 minute took 3 days.
No one was in command.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:38pm:

Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001 According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse.

Quote:

Peta Credlin says

There's your problem.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:38pm: Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001 According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse. Quote: Peta Credlin says There's your problem.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

good old Head buried in the Sand.... dna...

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:38pm: Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001 According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse. Quote: Peta Credlin says There's your problem.

Peta Credlin has a good show.
You should watch it sometimes.

Again - people here attack the messenger not the message.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:38pm: Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001 According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse. Quote: Peta Credlin says There's your problem.

i wouldnt call it 'stockholm syndrome" but i would say that people are buying a false narrative.

people are scared and so they should be.

when victoria demolishes maybe 10 to 20 thousand small businesses
when it demolishes its tourism
when it demolishes it higher education
when it sells its dairy and fruit businesses to foreign interests
when its car industry is gone
when it starts to rely on renewable energy and pays worlds highest prices for energy
when it doesnt have the mining industry of some states,

then where will employment come from once job keeper expires?

people like Dan are feeding people fear of this virus which , for MOST victorians (maybe 99 %) is not a threat.

sure if you are a 95 yo in aged care, its a bad thing, but the level of fear of disease for a healthy 35 yo should be close to zero.

but lets say you are a 35 yo with a wife and 2 kids and a mortgage , then come 12 months you are FAAAARKED.
and i mean seriously FAAAARKED to a degree from which you probably wont recover.

because there will be a surge in unemployment in victoria like we have never seen (elsewhere as well).

and melbourne in particular has sky high house prices.
many people probably NEED both adults working just to meet the mortgage.

for literally 100,000 couples that will not be possible.

not when you have NO prospect of a job.

the only employment left would seem to be in dans public service but that will have to be radically cut and victoria has rakced up such debt they will probably lose their credit rating.

so well will see a housing decline and many people now jobless who have a debt they cannot service and they will basicly need to move to antoher state , or move back with grandparents.

the social strain, the pain of unemployment will create a downward spiral and melbourne may end up like detroit in the states.

with no jobs, bad weather, no small business, a glut of houses and no investors to buy them, no migrants wanting to go there except the rabble.

it will be catastrophic.

my daughters both sell real estate here in brisbane

i have been surprised prices havent come off (though i think they will).
but they have sold 2 properties each on small acreage on the outskirts of brisbane to victorians.
thats 4 properties.

they havent sold an acreage property to a victorian for the last 5 years they tell me.

victorians are done with big cities and the ones with liquidity are getting out.

it will be towers of housing commision and ruined suburbs and no jobs.

tell me where the jobs will come from.

tell me what industries melbourne can attract.
i'm all ears.

people dont want to face this reality so they have joined the premier in a huge distraction based on watching the daily count on  a virus which is the catalyst for their personal catastrophe but they will look back in 5 years and see covid as the least of their worries.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 3:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 3:05pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:38pm: Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001 According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse. Quote: Peta Credlin says There's your problem. Peta Credlin has a good show. You should watch it sometimes. Again - people here attack the messenger not the message.

Credlin is no messenger - just an extremist biased hack.

She was the one who coached our lowest quality PM on how to perform worse.


Quote:

62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well.

Technically there is a good reason for that result, it is because Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well.

All of Australia's state and federal leaders have - all of them. They all followed the science, they all acted quickly to locked down when they needed to. They all made some mistakes and they all had varying amounts of luck.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 10:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 3:38pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 3:05pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:38pm: Sky News host Peta Credlin says the only explanation for Daniel Andrews’ positive Newspoll numbers is “Stockholm syndrome”. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193366339001 According to The Australian’s Newspoll, 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse. Quote: Peta Credlin says There's your problem. Peta Credlin has a good show. You should watch it sometimes. Again - people here attack the messenger not the message. Credlin is no messenger - just an extremist biased hack. She was the one who coached our lowest quality PM on how to perform worse. [quote]62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well.

Technically there is a good reason for that result, it is because Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well.

All of Australia's state and federal leaders have - all of them. They all followed the science, they all acted quickly to locked down when they needed to. They all made some mistakes and they all had varying amounts of luck.


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certainly if you are an obese diabetic 85 yo , they have handled this crisis very well.

for the cluster of 16  senior students in sydeny who have suicided and for their families, maybe some questions need to be raised.

my impression is that the membership of oz politics is made up of the former cohort and they see themselves as a priority over the later cohort.

they can decide for themselves whether this is a moral stance.

for me, its disgraceful

aquascoot wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 5:34am:

certainly if you are an obese diabetic 85 yo , they have handled this crisis very well. for the cluster of 16  senior students in sydeny who have suicided and for their families, maybe some questions need to be raised. my impression is that the membership of oz politics is made up of the former cohort and they see themselves as a priority over the later cohort. they can decide for themselves whether this is a moral stance. for me, its disgraceful

16 kids in Sydney have suicided because of CoVid?  You are having me on, aren't you?

It's impossible to say that it is because of covod

Google Claudia Neale North shore cluster

Have a read of what her parents have to say

aquascoot wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:34am:

It's impossible to say that it is because of covod Google Claudia Neale North shore cluster Have a read of what her parents have to say

Everything came up as a paywall. I don't do Facebook either.  ;)

I'll see if I can copy and paste some of it later

aquascoot wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 8:03am:

I'll see if I can copy and paste some of it later

Thanks. I know where the PLC is.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 10:57pm:

Credlin is no messenger - just an extremist biased hack. She was the one who coached our lowest quality PM on how to perform worse. NO PET THAT WAS KRUDD AND CO....ABBOTTS INITIATIVES DIDNT END UP IN FOUR DEATHS... >:( >:( Quote: 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Technically there is a good reason for that result, it is because Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. All of Australia's state and federal leaders have - all of them. They all followed the science, they all acted quickly to locked down when they needed to. They all made some mistakes and they all had varying amounts of luck.

who made the BIGGEST MISTAKES   thats the point..


     


I think we all know which STATE has the most deaths recorded...and the next State isnt even close..


I think the country as a whole has done pretty well and we will come though this better than most...

Very sad, she was a very pretty girl

https://ohtheme.com/claudia-neale/

aquascoot wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:34am:

It's impossible to say that it is because of covod Google Claudia Neale North shore cluster Have a read of what her parents have to say

So why bring it up?

Dan Dong Il Stalin Hitler Pot.....

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 11:00am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 6:34am: It's impossible to say that it is because of covod Google Claudia Neale North shore cluster Have a read of what her parents have to say So why bring it up?

geesus you are more brain dead then i thought.

16 high school students are no longer with us.
they tell their parents they are having difficulty dealing with the lack of school sports , of being with their friends in big groups , of going to schoolies.
they are bombarded with FOOLS like YOU telling them that covid kills kids (an out and out lie).

and then when they top themselves, you say its not worth our spending time examining.

FFS

how faaarking selfish are you old blokes.

as long as you can go to tassie for your holiday, the deaths of 16  schoolkids from mental health is just "acceptable collaterla damage"

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 8:36am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 10:57pm: Credlin is no messenger - just an extremist biased hack. She was the one who coached our lowest quality PM on how to perform worse. NO PET THAT WAS KRUDD AND CO....ABBOTTS INITIATIVES DIDNT END UP IN FOUR DEATHS... >:( >:( Quote: 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Technically there is a good reason for that result, it is because Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. All of Australia's state and federal leaders have - all of them. They all followed the science, they all acted quickly to locked down when they needed to. They all made some mistakes and they all had varying amounts of luck. who made the BIGGEST MISTAKES   thats the point..       I think we all know which STATE has the most deaths recorded...and the next State isnt even close.. I think the country as a whole has done pretty well and we will come though this better than most...

Basically yes, Australia on the whole has done better than eg: other countries.
But we aren’t as crowded (except capital cities) and our population is not so high with the amount of land space around us.
But I ask, how could anyone think Dan Andrews has done a good job?
Victoria had the highest infections and highest deaths out of all the rest of Australia and New Zealand combined!

Back in April the stats for Victoria were the lowest to virtually nil, out of all Australia while every other state spiked!
And then.... all other states came under control of ADF and every other state got right down and some  to nil infections.
But what happened to Victoria... well ... returned people from OS had covid... put into hotels for quarantine but not under ADF’s guard.
That help was refused... because dear Dan thought our low stats meant we were all right Jack... don’t need the ADF... we are cool... we are better than other states etc coz our stats are lower blah blah

And that... is the turning point to Melbourne’s horror story ....

Sophia wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 1:16pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 8:36am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 10:57pm: Credlin is no messenger - just an extremist biased hack. She was the one who coached our lowest quality PM on how to perform worse. NO PET THAT WAS KRUDD AND CO....ABBOTTS INITIATIVES DIDNT END UP IN FOUR DEATHS... >:( >:( Quote: 62 per cent of Victorian voters believe Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. Technically there is a good reason for that result, it is because Premier Daniel Andrews has handled the ongoing COVID-19 crisis well. All of Australia's state and federal leaders have - all of them. They all followed the science, they all acted quickly to locked down when they needed to. They all made some mistakes and they all had varying amounts of luck. who made the BIGGEST MISTAKES   thats the point..       I think we all know which STATE has the most deaths recorded...and the next State isnt even close.. I think the country as a whole has done pretty well and we will come though this better than most... Basically yes, Australia on the whole has done better than eg: other countries. But we aren’t as crowded (except capital cities) and our population is not so high with the amount of land space around us. But I ask, how could anyone think Dan Andrews has done a good job? Victoria had the highest infections and highest deaths out of all the rest of Australia and New Zealand combined! Back in April the stats for Victoria were the lowest to virtually nil, out of all Australia while every other state spiked! And then.... all other states came under control of ADF and every other state got right down and some  to nil infections. But what happened to Victoria... well ... returned people from OS had covid... put into hotels for quarantine but not under ADF’s guard. That help was refused... because dear Dan thought our low stats meant we were all right Jack... don’t need the ADF... we are cool... we are better than other states etc coz our stats are lower blah blah And that... is the turning point to Melbourne’s horror story ....

   I have noticed the lefties here tend to sweep the facts under the carpet  and act as if he has just saved the world..... ;D ;D

thats what Dan is banking on lefty short memories.... :D :D


Location      Cases      Recovered      Deaths
Victoria
20,105
18,738
773
New South Wales
4,213
2,992
53
Queensland
1,153
1,125
6
Western Australia
668
650
9
South Australia
468
462
4


if you look at all the figures for AUstralia  Victoria is certainly the stand out for letting us down....and its a shame they cannot admit to that...

ABC 2    Dan on trial now.