Victoria's Health Minister Jenny Mikakos appears to have misled the inquiry into the botched hotel quarantine program after claiming the first she learnt of the involvement of private security guards was in May.


https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-25/health-minister-knew-about-private-security-in-hotel-quarantine/12702376

ABC 2

Dan on trial now.

bobby, as if the ABC would go hard on Dan.

the ABC staff all have posters of him over their bed like the citizens of north korea have Kim Jong

aquascoot wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 2:28pm:

bobby, as if the ABC would go hard on Dan. the ABC staff all have posters of him over their bed like the citizens of north korea have Kim Jong

So far the questions are all boring at the inquiry.

No hard hitting yet.

he dares to call himself a leader..

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has admitted he doesn’t know who made the decision to contract private security to guard returned travellers in hotel quarantine.

The spectacular admission is contained in his witness statement to the hotel quarantine inquiry.

Mr Andrews was asked “Who made the decision to engage private security contractors in the Hotel Quarantine Program?”

“I do not know who made that decision,” he wrote.

He said that after National Cabinet determined to introduce hotel quarantine, he expected a mix of personnel would play a role in the program including Victoria Police.

“But the way in which that decision was to be implemented, including the mix of personnel that would be engaged and their respective roles, was an operational matter,” he said.

“That is similarly so in the management of other disasters. For example, I have no role in determining the mix of staff and allocation of tasks during a catastrophic bushfire event.”


Asked if he supporting using private security going forward, Mr Andrews said: “My view as to the engagement of private security contractors in any future iteration of a mandatory hotel quarantine program will be guided by this Board of Inquiry’s findings and recommendations.”

NOT AWARE OF ASHTON TEXTS

Mr Andrews said he was not aware of anything that would have led then Chief Commissioner of Police Graham Ashton to text AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw saying private security would be used in the Victorian quarantine program.

Texts previously tendered to the inquiry show Mr Ashton texted “Mate. My advise (sic) is the ADF do passenger transfer and private security will be used” in the early afternoon of March 27.

“OK that‘s new,” Mr Kershaw replied.

“I think that‘s the deal set up by our DPC (Department of Premier and Cabinet). I understand NSW will be a different arrangement,” Mr Ashton said, adding that he had spoken to NSW Police commissioner Mick Fuller.

so there you have it... a horse..[govt] with no head..

>:( >:( >:(..

hes very good at not answering a direct question isnt he...

maybe been taking lessons from shortarse.

All you buggers who defend Trump's lies are angry at this?

Remember, Scoot says that lying makes leaders lovable and genuine.

KangAnon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 3:54pm:

All you buggers who defend Trump's lies are angry at this? Remember, Scoot says that lying makes leaders lovable and genuine.

oh noooooooooooooo not another TRUMP thread   pullllllllllllease....

can either you or gweggy talk without mentioning trump??? ::) ::)

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 3:56pm:

KangAnon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 3:54pm: All you buggers who defend Trump's lies are angry at this? Remember, Scoot says that lying makes leaders lovable and genuine. oh noooooooooooooo not another TRUMP thread   pullllllllllllease.... can either you or gweggy talk without mentioning trump??? ::) ::)

Can you talk without whinging or putting tickets on yourself?

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 3:59pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 3:56pm: KangAnon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 3:54pm: All you buggers who defend Trump's lies are angry at this? Remember, Scoot says that lying makes leaders lovable and genuine. oh noooooooooooooo not another TRUMP thread   pullllllllllllease.... can either you or gweggy talk without mentioning trump??? ::) ::) Can you talk without whinging or putting tickets on yourself?

Don't bully dear Cods.

KangAnon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 3:54pm:

All you buggers who defend Trump's lies are angry at this? Remember, Scoot says that lying makes leaders lovable and genuine.

Agreed, it seems that hypocrites like cods and aqua have different standards of ethics when it comes to politicians they support

Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 3:59pm: cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 3:56pm: KangAnon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 3:54pm: All you buggers who defend Trump's lies are angry at this? Remember, Scoot says that lying makes leaders lovable and genuine. oh noooooooooooooo not another TRUMP thread   pullllllllllllease.... can either you or gweggy talk without mentioning trump??? ::) ::) Can you talk without whinging or putting tickets on yourself? Don't bully dear Cods.

its just kevin the BULLY BOY bobby dont fret...he is so miserable he cant help himself...

cant think of one female who can tolerate him to be honest...

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:07pm:

Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around.

no pet  I dont follow them around   in fact when it comes to trannie shhhhhhhhehe follows me around..

get your facts right before you come on complaining.. whiner.hevin.e

Maybe cods should try and refrain from  whinging and whining etc? If she calls me mong how the hell does she deserve special treatment?

I do not give a stuff what she calls me but she brings a lot of abuse onto herself by abusing others. She plays the nice slightly befuddled old lady but it is an act. She can change her behavior if needed.

She dishes it out, she cops a serve in turn!

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 2:06pm:

ABC 2 Dan on trial now.

Watching it too.

The part that annoys me much... Dan was aware that the offering and use of the ADF was commonwealth funded, whereas getting private guards was a Victorian tax paid situation, I’m saying...we pay for that....when there was a chance to get the ADF (which we as tax payers have already funded...hubby says ... he’s determined to make Victoria broke!
I say... if this private company he hired was to come out of his pay packet... he would’ve had the ADF quick smart pronto!

The questioner just said it was a national response to the pandemic, not a Victorian one.

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. no pet  I dont follow them around   in fact when it comes to trannie shhhhhhhhehe follows me around.. get your facts right before you come on complaining.. whiner.hevin.e

I don't 'follow you around' at all.  That is you putting tickets on yourself, and falsely playing the victim for undeserved sympathy.  You have fooled Bobby into believing and also the doxxing bitch.

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:07pm:

Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla. What goes around comes around.

Cods is a dear senior citizen -
show some respect - you bully.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

Maybe cods should try and refrain from  whinging and whining etc? If she calls me mong how the hell does she deserve special treatment? I do not give a stuff what she calls me but she brings a lot of abuse onto herself by abusing others. She plays the nice slightly befuddled old lady but it is an act. She can change her behavior if needed. She dishes it out, she cops a serve in turn!

I love you too dear..

btw I dont slam doors or sulk... ;) ;)

I think we are even now.

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:13pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:10pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. no pet  I dont follow them around   in fact when it comes to trannie shhhhhhhhehe follows me around.. get your facts right before you come on complaining.. whiner.hevin.e I don't 'follow you around' at all.  That is you putting tickets on yourself, and falsely playing the victim for undeserved sympathy.  You have fooled Bobby into believing and also the doxxing bitch.

REALLY    could have fooled most on here...

some days you dont miss a post....is this early dementia...

I couldnt careless what a lying using ex legal like you thinks of me.. in fact the less you think the better 

I dont have to defend myself against a low life like you.. run along kevin  you are a waste of space.

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:07pm:

Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around.

Is that right? ;D ;D ;D

Sophia wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 2:06pm: ABC 2 Dan on trial now. Watching it too. The part that annoys me much... Dan was aware that the offering and use of the ADF was commonwealth funded, whereas getting private guards was a Victorian tax paid situation, I’m saying...we pay for that....when there was a chance to get the ADF (which we as tax payers have already funded...hubby says ... he’s determined to make Victoria broke! I say... if this private company he hired was to come out of his pay packet... he would’ve had the ADF quick smart pronto! The questioner just said it was a national response to the pandemic, not a Victorian one.

Dan is not being asked any hard questions.

It looks like a buck passing, white wash.

Neferti wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D

Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully.

Sophia wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 2:06pm: ABC 2 Dan on trial now. Watching it too. The part that annoys me much... Dan was aware that the offering and use of the ADF was commonwealth funded, whereas getting private guards was a Victorian tax paid situation, I’m saying...we pay for that....when there was a chance to get the ADF (which we as tax payers have already funded...hubby says ... he’s determined to make Victoria broke! I say... if this private company he hired was to come out of his pay packet... he would’ve had the ADF quick smart pronto! The questioner just said it was a national response to the pandemic, not a Victorian one.

someone needs to show him the figures of the many Victorians who tried to sneak into other States   to pass on the Vic virus...... cant recall him doing much to prevent that  he more or less let other States be responsible for catching the mongrels.

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:16pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:11pm: Maybe cods should try and refrain from  whinging and whining etc? If she calls me mong how the hell does she deserve special treatment? I do not give a stuff what she calls me but she brings a lot of abuse onto herself by abusing others. She plays the nice slightly befuddled old lady but it is an act. She can change her behavior if needed. She dishes it out, she cops a serve in turn! I love you too dear.. btw I dont slam doors or sulk... ;) ;) I think we are even now.

Not a matter of being even, a reason why you do not deserve to be treated as if you were a nice person. Replying to Booby more than anything.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:19pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully.

hes also a liar and devious....and a reason for most holding legal in low regard   with used carsalesmen....

more crooks in there than honorable ones... I know two in my family have been bitten by crook  legals

I might whinge   who doesnt?.. but I wouldnt tell a person to TOP THEMSELVES or attack a school child...

I would be appalled if I even thought of doing so. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:22pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:16pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:11pm: Maybe cods should try and refrain from  whinging and whining etc? If she calls me mong how the hell does she deserve special treatment? I do not give a stuff what she calls me but she brings a lot of abuse onto herself by abusing others. She plays the nice slightly befuddled old lady but it is an act. She can change her behavior if needed. She dishes it out, she cops a serve in turn! I love you too dear.. btw I dont slam doors or sulk... ;) ;) I think we are even now. Not a matter of being even, a reason why you do not deserve to be treated as if you were a nice person. Replying to Booby more than anything.

you dont think I am nice.. why all the emails then?????why keep asking me to join the mongs......mmmmmmmmm...you blow hot and cold mate   bad tempered ....then coochee coo...begging me for my vote... ::)

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:21pm: Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:19pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully. hes also a liar and devious....and a reason for most holding legal in low regard   with used carsalesmen.... more crooks in there than honorable ones... I know two in my family have been bitten by crook  legals I might whinge   who doesnt?.. but I wouldnt tell a person to TOP THEMSELVES or attack a school child... I would be appalled if I even thought of doing so. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

And he pinned retard to a tree and gave him a gob full.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla. What goes around comes around. Cods is a dear senior citizen - show some respect - you bully.

There are others here older than she is and not one of them seeks protection because they are 'senior citizens.'

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:21pm: Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:19pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully. hes also a liar and devious....and a reason for most holding legal in low regard   with used carsalesmen.... more crooks in there than honorable ones... I know two in my family have been bitten by crook  legals I might whinge   who doesnt?.. but I wouldnt tell a person to TOP THEMSELVES or attack a school child... I would be appalled if I even thought of doing so. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I'm all hurt.  He is threatening to fly to Canberra and only call in on you and Red (see Travel MRB).  ;D

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:14pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla. What goes around comes around. Cods is a dear senior citizen - show some respect - you bully. There are others here older than she is and not one of them seeks protection because they are 'senior citizens.'

But you bully everyone - even retarded kids.

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:14pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla. What goes around comes around. Cods is a dear senior citizen - show some respect - you bully. There are others here older than she is and not one of them seeks protection because they are 'senior citizens.'

How would you know?  I don't recall Cods ever telling anybody her age!

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:19pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully.

I am a great fan of women.  You should try it Bobby.    I am not a great fan of vapid idiots of either gender and/or doxxing arseholes of either gender.  You sort out who is who Bobby.

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:14pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla. What goes around comes around. Cods is a dear senior citizen - show some respect - you bully. There are others here older than she is and not one of them seeks protection because they are 'senior citizens.'

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:14pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla. What goes around comes around. Cods is a dear senior citizen - show some respect - you bully. There are others here older than she is and not one of them seeks protection because they are 'senior citizens.'

whos seeking protection   and from whom... ::) ::)

what a nutter.....you cant stand anyone sticking up for cods can you??????... but its ok you dont stalk me do you????? >:( >:( >:(

not at all! >:(

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:21pm: Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:19pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully. I am a great fan of women.  I am not a great fan of vapid idiots of either gender and/or doxxing arseholes of either gender.  You sort out who is who Bobby.

LIAR.... you told one you hope they TOP THEMSELVES...


who does that??????????

only a vile person would do that.

@

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:30pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:21pm: Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:19pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:07pm: Bobby.......If I am bullying Karen, she is bullying Peccery and The Kangaroo and Marla.  What goes around comes around. Is that right? ;D ;D ;D Aussie doesn't like women and he's a bully. I am a great fan of women.  I am not a great fan of vapid idiots of either gender and/or doxxing arseholes of either gender.  You sort out who is who Bobby. LIAR.... you told one you hope they TOP THEMSELVES... who does that?????????? only a vile person would do that.

I would have told the same thing to anyone who made a post like the doxxing bitch did.

Careful Aussie, don’t get a ban!

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Careful Aussie, don’t get a ban!

We have a doxxing bitch here.  Simple as that.  Undeniable.  Fact.

Another thread downthe gurgler.

Thanks, #crookedaussie

Gordon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:55pm:

Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie

It went down the gurgler at Post # 6, but don't allow your eyes to see that, #hewhoknowinglydineswithashyster immigrationLawyer

Gordon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:55pm:

Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie

What you get with doxxing liars like Naffy. Fact.

Gordon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:55pm:

Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie

only if we let them gordy..

its what they come here for...

no two things to cripple this forum and to get as many ozpolians banned as possible...they can only stand leftybitchtalk...

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 5:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:55pm: Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie What you get with doxxing liars like Naffy. Fact.

isnt it time you slammed another door..sulker.?

Aussie wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:55pm: Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie It went down the gurgler at Post # 6, but don't allow your eyes to see that, #hewhoknowinglydineswithashyster immigrationLawyer

oh no the stalker is now double stalking...

dont forget he doesnt follow me around though... :D :D :D


liar liar pants on fire.


what about Hoping I TOP MYSELF aussie????


you sound as if you are working yourself up to explode once again...

I must alert the gmods to watch this space..

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 5:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 5:13pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:55pm: Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie What you get with doxxing liars like Naffy. Fact. isnt it time you slammed another door..sulker.?

I am having fun here! Cats and Critters is a rapidly growing MRB cods you spring chicken!

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:01pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 5:51pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 5:13pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:55pm: Another thread downthe gurgler. Thanks, #crookedaussie What you get with doxxing liars like Naffy. Fact. isnt it time you slammed another door..sulker.? I am having fun here! Cats and Critters is a rapidly growing MRB cods you spring chicken!

yeah you always did like talking to yourself.... didnt stop you slamming the door on fermentology did it?   most of the posts there were yours... ;D ;D ;D

Back on topic....
re: today’s enquiries with our Victorian Premier... whom has a memory problem about an all important issue RE: covid/hotel guards ....
Would anyone else think that maybe, if our said premier has memory problems, that maybe he should step down from the job?

.

Sophia wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:22pm:

Back on topic.... re: today’s enquiries with our Victorian Premier... whom has a memory problem about an all important issue RE: covid/hotel guards .... Would anyone else think that maybe, if our said premier has memory problems, that maybe he should step down from the job?

absolutely   ...who keeps a horse with no head??.. :) :)

maybe Dan doesnt expect too much from a premier.... ::) ::).. well he certainly denies knowing about anything....especially if its a disaster... :D :D

Poor cods, not that old but the mental faculties not as sharp as they should be? Maybe never were?

I deleted the posts in Fermentations because of interference by a GMod. That stopped GMod interference for quite some time.

Lately another GMod started interfering in MRBs. Seems FD had learned a lesson even if the GMod had not. Bans ended precipitately, interference stopped.

cods wants to be Mod of Womens Issues—a disastrous choice—but if so she too will benefit from my actions way back when. Like Booby cods will be too stupid to realise who gave her freedom to mismanage a MRB.

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 6:22pm: Back on topic.... re: today’s enquiries with our Victorian Premier... whom has a memory problem about an all important issue RE: covid/hotel guards .... Would anyone else think that maybe, if our said premier has memory problems, that maybe he should step down from the job? absolutely   ...who keeps a horse with no head??.. :) :) maybe Dan doesnt expect too much from a premier.... ::) ::).. well he certainly denies knowing about anything....especially if its a disaster... :D :D

No one is admitting to anything Cods.
But the “memory loss” is very prominent.
Doing an Alan Bond  ::)
I wonder, what do all Dan supporters think of this then?

.

Bloody hell, Dans checked everyone under a bus today.

Checked or chucked?

So hard to tell with the illiterate.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

Checked or chucked? So hard to tell with the illiterate.

Typos eh, vinegar tits?

Do you? I recommend bicarb of soda!

Gordon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

Bloody hell, Dans checked everyone under a bus today.

ABC 2 news.

Dan didn't know who was responsible for private contractors.

I don't understand why no one knows who is responsible for hiring
the private contractors?

It's easy - just find the purchase order for
the money to be paid and
it will be signed by someone.
That person needs to be asked why they signed it.

Sophia wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 4:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 2:06pm: ABC 2 Dan on trial now. Watching it too. The part that annoys me much... Dan was aware that the offering and use of the ADF was commonwealth funded, whereas getting private guards was a Victorian tax paid situation, I’m saying...we pay for that....when there was a chance to get the ADF (which we as tax payers have already funded...hubby says ... he’s determined to make Victoria broke! I say... if this private company he hired was to come out of his pay packet... he would’ve had the ADF quick smart pronto! The questioner just said it was a national response to the pandemic, not a Victorian one.

The ADF personnel were not offered to guard Hotels.

Sophia wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 6:31pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 6:26pm: Sophia wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 6:22pm: Back on topic.... re: today’s enquiries with our Victorian Premier... whom has a memory problem about an all important issue RE: covid/hotel guards .... Would anyone else think that maybe, if our said premier has memory problems, that maybe he should step down from the job? absolutely   ...who keeps a horse with no head??.. :) :) maybe Dan doesnt expect too much from a premier.... ::) ::).. well he certainly denies knowing about anything....especially if its a disaster... :D :D No one is admitting to anything Cods. But the “memory loss” is very prominent. Doing an Alan Bond  ::) I wonder, what do all Dan supporters think of this then?

  wait lols  he will turn up either with a white stick  or walking frame ....its sure to work... :D :D :D

Dnarever wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 10:48pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 2:06pm: ABC 2 Dan on trial now. Watching it too. The part that annoys me much... Dan was aware that the offering and use of the ADF was commonwealth funded, whereas getting private guards was a Victorian tax paid situation, I’m saying...we pay for that....when there was a chance to get the ADF (which we as tax payers have already funded...hubby says ... he’s determined to make Victoria broke! I say... if this private company he hired was to come out of his pay packet... he would’ve had the ADF quick smart pronto! The questioner just said it was a national response to the pandemic, not a Victorian one. The ADF personnel were not offered to guard Hotels.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-12/fact-check-defence-force-coronavirus-fact-file-hotel-quarantine/12522492?nw=0


As Victoria grapples with surging COVID-19 cases, sparked essentially by breaches linked to hotel quarantine, divisions have emerged between the Federal and Victorian governments over whether the Australian Defence Force offered assistance to help secure quarantine hotels in Victoria.

More than 3,400 ADF personnel, including medicos, logistical staff and soldiers are currently deployed across Australia, bolstering the efforts of states and territories to fight the virus.

Victoria has been criticised for being too slow off the mark in drawing on ADF personnel, with some observers blaming the use of private contractors to manage the hotel quarantine scheme for allowing COVID-19 to spread back into the community.

Catch up on the main COVID-19 news from September 25 with our coronavirus blog.
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews told a parliamentary inquiry on August 11 that he did not believe ADF support had been offered to help run Victoria's hotel quarantining.

"I don't believe ADF support was on offer," Mr Andrews told the Victorian Parliament's Public Accounts and Estimates Committee, which is scrutinising the State Government's pandemic response.

"I think it is fundamentally incorrect to assert that there was hundreds of ADF staff on offer and somehow someone said no. That's just not, in my judgement, accurate."

Defence Minister Linda Reynolds immediately contradicted Mr Andrews' claim, releasing a statement saying the Prime Minister had made an offer to all states on March 27.

The statement said Victorian authorities had advised on March 28 that Victoria was not seeking ADF assistance with mandatory quarantine arrangements and "consistently advised that its (the ADF's) assistance was not required for any 'public facing roles' in Victoria."

"On 24 June 2020, Defence agreed to a Victorian Government request for 850 ADF personnel to assist with hotel quarantine compliance. The request was withdrawn by the Victorian Government the following day. The decision to withdraw the request is a matter for the Victorian Government."

Victoria's Emergency Management Commissioner, Andrew Crisp, then released a statement saying the ADF had participated in meetings on March 27 and 28, but "during these discussions I did not seek nor did representatives of the ADF offer assistance as part of the hotel quarantine program."

During the Victorian parliamentary inquiry Mr Andrews was pressed on why he had used private contractors to manage hotel quarantining rather than the ADF.

He said the quarantine program was an extension of a hotel scheme that was already in the process of being set up for vulnerable people and health workers.

Mr Andrews has previously admitted to a failure in the state's hotel quarantine program, with management of Victoria's program now the subject of a state inquiry.

The Department of Defence agreed to requests for support for quarantine compliance from both Queensland and NSW on March 28 and from WA on August 3, according to Ms Reynolds.

So, what exactly is the extent of the ADF's involvement in supporting the states and territories as they seek to contain the spread of the coronavirus? How many ADF personnel have been assigned in each jurisdiction, and in what capacity?


please read all the way down...

QLd ADF

There are 492 personnel in the state, including:

196 are supporting quarantine compliance management efforts, including at airports and hotels. Hotel quarantine support started from March 31.
156 are supporting state police with Queensland border controls.

NSW ADF.

There are 664 personnel in the state, including:

435 are supporting police with border control checkpoints on the NSW-Victoria border.
165 are supporting state police quarantine, reception and repatriation efforts at Sydney airport and hotels. Hotel quarantine support started from March 29.
12 are assisting the State Government with contact tracing.

I don't understand why no one knows who is responsible for hiring
the private contractors?

It's easy - just find the purchase order for
the money to be paid and
it will be signed by someone.
That person needs to be asked why they signed it.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

I don't understand why no one knows who is responsible for hiring the private contractors? It's easy - just find the purchase order for the money to be paid and it will be signed by someone. That person needs to be asked why they signed it.

bobby

this is some secret internal footage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhk_Kp72_0I

aquascoot wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 6:13am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 11:29pm: I don't understand why no one knows who is responsible for hiring the private contractors? It's easy - just find the purchase order for the money to be paid and it will be signed by someone. That person needs to be asked why they signed it. bobby this is some secret internal footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhk_Kp72_0I

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/058/515/865/original/5ff608aff7bd8eee.jpg

it would make more sense to me   if they asked the Private Security Co that was hired in the first place...

I am sure they wanted to be paid for their efforts  so there would be a paper trail..

someone gave them the JOB......someone signed off on the JOB.....

how do they HIRE anyone or pay them for that matter..

to pretend ignorance is worse than owing up in the first place...

This bloke is in charge of the Coordination of Treasury and Finance – COVID-19

Maybe they should ask him?

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/tim-pallas

And while they are doing that Codsy, maybe they could check out HOW this shyster security firm ever got accreditation from the FEDERAL government. They are one of the feds PREFERRED companies.

macman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

And while they are doing that Codsy, maybe they could check out HOW this shyster security firm ever got accreditation from the FEDERAL government. They are one of the feds PREFERRED companies.

really??  but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture.... I am sure your facts were in when labor had the power as well...did you ask them to change their selection??? >:( >:( .,

how do you feel about a premier  who knows almost nothing about anything... ::) ::)

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 7:55am:

but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture....

you probably read that from some idiot on here ... the company was approved by the federal govt. and had been used by Dutton many times prior to covid.

;D ;D

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John Smith wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 8:00am:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:55am: but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture.... you probably read that from some idiot on here ... the company was approved by the federal govt. and had been used by Dutton many times prior to covid.

not at all and not in this instance.. how would you know which company any govt uses??.. even more so security...how the hell would you know...they dont advertise who they use.

thats the morons in Vic who elected him...

hes a duck out of his depth..

only idiots would believe such a person.

cods wrote on Sep 25^th, 2020 at 11:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:48pm: Sophia wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 2:06pm: ABC 2 Dan on trial now. Watching it too. The part that annoys me much... Dan was aware that the offering and use of the ADF was commonwealth funded, whereas getting private guards was a Victorian tax paid situation, I’m saying...we pay for that....when there was a chance to get the ADF (which we as tax payers have already funded...hubby says ... he’s determined to make Victoria broke! I say... if this private company he hired was to come out of his pay packet... he would’ve had the ADF quick smart pronto! The questioner just said it was a national response to the pandemic, not a Victorian one. The ADF personnel were not offered to guard Hotels. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-12/fact-check-defence-force-coronavirus-fact-file-hotel-quarantine/12522492?nw=0 As Victoria grapples with surging COVID-19 cases, sparked essentially by breaches linked to hotel quarantine, divisions have emerged between the Federal and Victorian governments over whether the Australian Defence Force offered assistance to help secure quarantine hotels in Victoria. More than 3,400 ADF personnel, including medicos, logistical staff and soldiers are currently deployed across Australia, bolstering the efforts of states and territories to fight the virus. Victoria has been criticised for being too slow off the mark in drawing on ADF personnel, with some observers blaming the use of private contractors to manage the hotel quarantine scheme for allowing COVID-19 to spread back into the community. Catch up on the main COVID-19 news from September 25 with our coronavirus blog. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews told a parliamentary inquiry on August 11 that he did not believe ADF support had been offered to help run Victoria's hotel quarantining. "I don't believe ADF support was on offer," Mr Andrews told the Victorian Parliament's Public Accounts and Estimates Committee, which is scrutinising the State Government's pandemic response. "I think it is fundamentally incorrect to assert that there was hundreds of ADF staff on offer and somehow someone said no. That's just not, in my judgement, accurate." Defence Minister Linda Reynolds immediately contradicted Mr Andrews' claim, releasing a statement saying the Prime Minister had made an offer to all states on March 27. The statement said Victorian authorities had advised on March 28 that Victoria was not seeking ADF assistance with mandatory quarantine arrangements and "consistently advised that its (the ADF's) assistance was not required for any 'public facing roles' in Victoria." "On 24 June 2020, Defence agreed to a Victorian Government request for 850 ADF personnel to assist with hotel quarantine compliance. The request was withdrawn by the Victorian Government the following day. The decision to withdraw the request is a matter for the Victorian Government." Victoria's Emergency Management Commissioner, Andrew Crisp, then released a statement saying the ADF had participated in meetings on March 27 and 28, but "during these discussions I did not seek nor did representatives of the ADF offer assistance as part of the hotel quarantine program." During the Victorian parliamentary inquiry Mr Andrews was pressed on why he had used private contractors to manage hotel quarantining rather than the ADF. He said the quarantine program was an extension of a hotel scheme that was already in the process of being set up for vulnerable people and health workers. Mr Andrews has previously admitted to a failure in the state's hotel quarantine program, with management of Victoria's program now the subject of a state inquiry. The Department of Defence agreed to requests for support for quarantine compliance from both Queensland and NSW on March 28 and from WA on August 3, according to Ms Reynolds. So, what exactly is the extent of the ADF's involvement in supporting the states and territories as they seek to contain the spread of the coronavirus? How many ADF personnel have been assigned in each jurisdiction, and in what capacity? please read all the way down... QLd ADF There are 492 personnel in the state, including: 196 are supporting quarantine compliance management efforts, including at airports and hotels. Hotel quarantine support started from March 31. 156 are supporting state police with Queensland border controls. NSW ADF. There are 664 personnel in the state, including: 435 are supporting police with border control checkpoints on the NSW-Victoria border. 165 are supporting state police quarantine, reception and repatriation efforts at Sydney airport and hotels. Hotel quarantine support started from March 29. 12 are assisting the State Government with contact tracing.

Yes it looks like you are correct. Wonder why this contradicts the PM's offer in his offer of use for ADF resources where it is clearly stated that ADF were available to work one + one with police.

The ADF were actually involved in the planning phase of hotel security in vic.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:04am:

Yes it looks like you are correct. Wonder why this contradicts the PM's offer in his offer of use for ADF resources where it is clearly stated that ADF were available to work one + one with police. The ADF were actually involved in the planning phase of hotel security in vic.

I dont know about that   but it stands to reason the ADF were used in Qld and NSW so they already had experience    that I feel is important.....and yes Dan did know they were offered....and they were hired one day and it was cancelled the next.......

I cant say I have seen a reason why he didnt use the ADF as security......this debacle has cost us all so much..  I think its time he told us the truth.

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 8:05am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:00am: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:55am: but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture.... you probably read that from some idiot on here ... the company was approved by the federal govt. and had been used by Dutton many times prior to covid. not at all and not in this instance.. how would you know which company any govt uses??.. even more so security...how the hell would you know...they dont advertise who they use.

Because they were on the list of government approved security providers.

That's right they came SloMo recommended.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:05am: John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:00am: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:55am: but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture.... you probably read that from some idiot on here ... the company was approved by the federal govt. and had been used by Dutton many times prior to covid. not at all and not in this instance.. how would you know which company any govt uses??.. even more so security...how the hell would you know...they dont advertise who they use. Because they were on the list of government approved security providers.

so they advertise which security companies are watching potential terrorists....

does that make sense to anyone?

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:04am: Yes it looks like you are correct. Wonder why this contradicts the PM's offer in his offer of use for ADF resources where it is clearly stated that ADF were available to work one + one with police. The ADF were actually involved in the planning phase of hotel security in vic. I dont know about that   but it stands to reason the ADF were used in Qld and NSW so they already had experience    that I feel is important.....and yes Dan did know they were offered....and they were hired one day and it was cancelled the next....... I cant say I have seen a reason why he didnt use the ADF as security......this debacle has cost us all so much..  I think its time he told us the truth.

In NSW the ADF had a minor role, mostly transporting people from airports to the hotels. The NSW police were in numbers at every hotel and had them buttoned down tight.

dis scomo recommend them to dan to use for hotel security????...

Gordon wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:28am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:04am: Yes it looks like you are correct. Wonder why this contradicts the PM's offer in his offer of use for ADF resources where it is clearly stated that ADF were available to work one + one with police. The ADF were actually involved in the planning phase of hotel security in vic. I dont know about that   but it stands to reason the ADF were used in Qld and NSW so they already had experience    that I feel is important.....and yes Dan did know they were offered....and they were hired one day and it was cancelled the next....... I cant say I have seen a reason why he didnt use the ADF as security......this debacle has cost us all so much..  I think its time he told us the truth. In NSW the ADF had a minor role, mostly transporting people from airports to the hotels. The NSW police were in numbers at every hotel and had them buttoned down tight.

but they did the job of securing people ... which is more than the Vic mob did..

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:33am: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:28am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:04am: Yes it looks like you are correct. Wonder why this contradicts the PM's offer in his offer of use for ADF resources where it is clearly stated that ADF were available to work one + one with police. The ADF were actually involved in the planning phase of hotel security in vic. I dont know about that   but it stands to reason the ADF were used in Qld and NSW so they already had experience    that I feel is important.....and yes Dan did know they were offered....and they were hired one day and it was cancelled the next....... I cant say I have seen a reason why he didnt use the ADF as security......this debacle has cost us all so much..  I think its time he told us the truth. In NSW the ADF had a minor role, mostly transporting people from airports to the hotels. The NSW police were in numbers at every hotel and had them buttoned down tight. but they did the job of securing people ... which is more than the Vic mob did..

The main failings were the lack of VicPol at the hotels as ADF and private security don't have authority to detain people.

I guess Dan had VicPol too busy arresting pregnant women.

Same names, same teams, same ignorance.
Andrews is LYING, no ifs, buts or maybes, unequivocally, definitely, LYING.
WHY would he, and all his minions lie, if they are all so shiny, clean innocent?

They are not.
It is exactly as it has already been reported.
A piss weak career pollie, with an unfortunate messiah complex, had gone mad with power over the WuFlu, and caved to bullying from an outside source, who may or may not have been a Union man, cough/sure was, cough/no bout a doubt it,and who may have needed to remind the previously male gendered leader to remember which side his bread was buttered when donation times come around and how a friend could throw some crumbs to faithful friends, even if they don't own a meatworks. Lots of ethnically diverse lads and lasses need a job, and will work cheap, leaving a nice little payday for whoever manages their contracts.
I mean, how would anyone expect a busy fella to remember little details when they are a big picture guy, saving us all from the WuFlu.

I hope he ends up living in a cardboard box, the POS.

Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos resigns

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-health-minister-jenny-mikakos-resigns-20200925-p55zeo.html


Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned from cabinet and the Parliament, just a day after Premier Daniel Andrews revealed she was "accountable" for the botched hotel quarantine program.

"I am disappointed that my integrity has sought to be undermined," Ms Mikakos said in a statement on Twitter.

"I know that my statement and evidence to the inquiry would have been uncomfortable for some.

"I have today written to the Governor of Victoria to resign my commissions as a Minister effective today. I will also be resigning from the Parliament."

Bloody good girl that Jenny, I knew her Mum and Dad you know, good bloody people, I knew they'd step up and take one for the team, no worries.
Don't youse worry about her, we'll look after the lass, blood oath we will.
She may have to wait a little while, but once we get Albo in the Lodge she'll be right as rain mate, lots of plumb jobs for good loyal people, and by then nobody'll even remember this shite.

Handy Andrews he's our man,
if he can't whitewash it,
No-One can.
Goooo Labor.
Doing us over proud for over a hundred bloody years.

mozzaok wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 10:36am:

Bloody good girl that Jenny, I knew her Mum and Dad you know, good bloody people, I knew they'd step up and take one for the team, no worries. Don't youse worry about her, we'll look after the lass, blood oath we will. She may have to wait a little while, but once we get Albo in the Lodge she'll be right as rain mate, lots of plumb jobs for good loyal people, and by then nobody'll even remember this shite. Handy Andrews he's our man, if he can't whitewash it, No-One can. Goooo Labor. Doing us over proud for over a hundred bloody years.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/058/515/865/original/5ff608aff7bd8eee.jpg

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

dis scomo recommend them to dan to use for hotel security????...

Not correct, SloMo offered them to work with police, police were not doing hotel security.

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 9:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:28am: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:05am: John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:00am: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:55am: but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture.... you probably read that from some idiot on here ... the company was approved by the federal govt. and had been used by Dutton many times prior to covid. not at all and not in this instance.. how would you know which company any govt uses??.. even more so security...how the hell would you know...they dont advertise who they use. Because they were on the list of government approved security providers. so they advertise which security companies are watching potential terrorists.... does that make sense to anyone?

No security company monitor terrorism?

However I am curious about the link between people sick with covis 19 and terrorists ?

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 8:07am:

thats the morons in Vic who elected him... hes a duck out of his depth.. only idiots would believe such a person.

And that what the rest of us that didn’t vote for him...have had to put up with  ::)

Dnarever wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 10:46am:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:33am: dis scomo recommend them to dan to use for hotel security????... Not correct, SloMo offered them to work with police, police were not doing hotel security.

morrison only offered him ADF   he has no police to offer them.......this was before the private security was set up.......so why didnt Dan  get the police to police the hotels....

he already employs POLICE.

Sophia wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 11:37am:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:07am: thats the morons in Vic who elected him... hes a duck out of his depth.. only idiots would believe such a person. And that what the rest of us that didn’t vote for him...have had to put up with  ::)

didnt you get some level crossings fixed though?????? :)

just sayin!

John Smith wrote on Sep 26^th, 2020 at 8:00am:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:55am: but I read somewhere that they were employed because they were affiliated with the same Union the person from the front bench was a member of at one stage   cronyism   which is part and parcel of labor culture.... you probably read that from some idiot on here ... the company was approved by the federal govt. and had been used by Dutton many times prior to covid.

And also by the NSW government for hotel security. They had problems there too, so how come the feds haven't withdrawn accreditation....... donors maybe? ;) ;) ;)

Dan will be lucky to survive a week, he couldn't lie straight in bed.