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Message started by Richdude on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 2:57am

Title: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Richdude on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 2:57am
The termination of late stage fetuses and then selling the body parts is OK to Kamala and the Dems.
5 mins
https://youtu.be/9ZY61Fr518g

A DOJ that arrests Roger Stone with more than two dozen agents and that fabricates a kidnapping plot against Gretchen Whitmer and that does not investigate Hunter Biden's laptop, is the exact same kind of DOJ in which Kamala Harris operated as Attorney General of California. This is why she is the Globalist's pick to be the US President.

Journalist David Daleiden tells the story about the éxposé documentary he produced about Planned Parenthood's lucrative trade in fetal body parts and how it caused a phalanx of Feds to appear on his doorstep.

"In 2013, I began and orchestrated an almost three-year-long, very in-depth, comprehensive investigative journalism study about the harvesting and trafficking of body parts from late term abortions. There's multiple violations and multiple issues that you very quickly start to learn about when you look into it.

"There's the basic problem of selling body parts, where you're basically creating a system, creating transactions, creating business relationships that incentivize the objectification and the destruction of human beings, in order to keep the business going."

The first of the videos was released on YouTube in August of 2015. Nothing had prepared him for its viral impact, it got almost three million views in less than a week and launched multiple Congressional and Federal investigations into fetal trafficking and fetal experimentation.

Also in August of 2015, Planned Parenthood hired Fusion GPS, the strategic intelligence firm that sky rocketed to infamy when Hillary Clinton paid them for the "PeePee" Dossier which became the basis for the Mueller Investigation. Fusion GPS was retained to defensively investigate the veracity of Daleiden's videos and they concluded the videos were the product of aggressive and misleading editing. A US Court of Appeals in January 2019, however concluded that the videos were authentic.

The criminal case has been dragging along since 2017. In November 2019, a jury in the civil case awarded Planned Parenthood more than $2 million in punitive and compensatory damages. In February 2020, David Daleiden pleaded not guilty to nine counts of criminal eavesdropping and invasion of privacy and is awaiting trial.

Daleiden says, "I now know what was going on was that Kamala Harris, at the explicit instruction of Planned Parenthood had targeted me and me alone, among all undercover video news gatherers in the State of California to enforce the California Video Recording Law against me and to punish me for speaking the truth about her powerful campaign donors at Planned Parenthood.

"I think what people have to understand about organizations like Planned Parenthood and about their political backers, like Kamala Harris is that they're shameless and they will do whatever they have to do in order to promote their agenda. They'll say whatever they have to say and they are not afraid to use every bit of power at their disposal to force their agenda through.

"Kamala Harris is the single greatest threat to first amendment civil liberties that our country has ever seen. If Kamala Harris is elected to be a heartbeat away from the highest office in the United States of America, you will have someone in the White House who has a radical contempt and disrespect for First Amendment civil liberties, someone who believes that she's entitled to use the powers of her office in order to punish the viewpoints of citizens who disagree with her.


Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by AiA on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 4:27am

Richdude wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 2:57am:
The termination of late stage fetuses and then selling the body parts is OK to Kamala and the Dems.
5 mins
https://youtu.be/9ZY61Fr518g

A DOJ that arrests Roger Stone with more than two dozen agents and that fabricates a kidnapping plot against Gretchen Whitmer and that does not investigate Hunter Biden's laptop, is the exact same kind of DOJ in which Kamala Harris operated as Attorney General of California. This is why she is the Globalist's pick to be the US President.

Journalist David Daleiden tells the story about the éxposé documentary he produced about Planned Parenthood's lucrative trade in fetal body parts and how it caused a phalanx of Feds to appear on his doorstep.

"In 2013, I began and orchestrated an almost three-year-long, very in-depth, comprehensive investigative journalism study about the harvesting and trafficking of body parts from late term abortions. There's multiple violations and multiple issues that you very quickly start to learn about when you look into it.

"There's the basic problem of selling body parts, where you're basically creating a system, creating transactions, creating business relationships that incentivize the objectification and the destruction of human beings, in order to keep the business going."

The first of the videos was released on YouTube in August of 2015. Nothing had prepared him for its viral impact, it got almost three million views in less than a week and launched multiple Congressional and Federal investigations into fetal trafficking and fetal experimentation.

Also in August of 2015, Planned Parenthood hired Fusion GPS, the strategic intelligence firm that sky rocketed to infamy when Hillary Clinton paid them for the "PeePee" Dossier which became the basis for the Mueller Investigation. Fusion GPS was retained to defensively investigate the veracity of Daleiden's videos and they concluded the videos were the product of aggressive and misleading editing. A US Court of Appeals in January 2019, however concluded that the videos were authentic.

The criminal case has been dragging along since 2017. In November 2019, a jury in the civil case awarded Planned Parenthood more than $2 million in punitive and compensatory damages. In February 2020, David Daleiden pleaded not guilty to nine counts of criminal eavesdropping and invasion of privacy and is awaiting trial.

Daleiden says, "I now know what was going on was that Kamala Harris, at the explicit instruction of Planned Parenthood had targeted me and me alone, among all undercover video news gatherers in the State of California to enforce the California Video Recording Law against me and to punish me for speaking the truth about her powerful campaign donors at Planned Parenthood.

"I think what people have to understand about organizations like Planned Parenthood and about their political backers, like Kamala Harris is that they're shameless and they will do whatever they have to do in order to promote their agenda. They'll say whatever they have to say and they are not afraid to use every bit of power at their disposal to force their agenda through.

"Kamala Harris is the single greatest threat to first amendment civil liberties that our country has ever seen. If Kamala Harris is elected to be a heartbeat away from the highest office in the United States of America, you will have someone in the White House who has a radical contempt and disrespect for First Amendment civil liberties, someone who believes that she's entitled to use the powers of her office in order to punish the viewpoints of citizens who disagree with her.


Not just fake news, but embarrassingly fake news.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Richdude on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 6:32am

AiA wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 4:27am:

Richdude wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 2:57am:
The termination of late stage fetuses and then selling the body parts is OK to Kamala and the Dems.
5 mins
https://youtu.be/9ZY61Fr518g

A DOJ that arrests Roger Stone with more than two dozen agents and that fabricates a kidnapping plot against Gretchen Whitmer and that does not investigate Hunter Biden's laptop, is the exact same kind of DOJ in which Kamala Harris operated as Attorney General of California. This is why she is the Globalist's pick to be the US President.

Journalist David Daleiden tells the story about the éxposé documentary he produced about Planned Parenthood's lucrative trade in fetal body parts and how it caused a phalanx of Feds to appear on his doorstep.

"In 2013, I began and orchestrated an almost three-year-long, very in-depth, comprehensive investigative journalism study about the harvesting and trafficking of body parts from late term abortions. There's multiple violations and multiple issues that you very quickly start to learn about when you look into it.

"There's the basic problem of selling body parts, where you're basically creating a system, creating transactions, creating business relationships that incentivize the objectification and the destruction of human beings, in order to keep the business going."

The first of the videos was released on YouTube in August of 2015. Nothing had prepared him for its viral impact, it got almost three million views in less than a week and launched multiple Congressional and Federal investigations into fetal trafficking and fetal experimentation.

Also in August of 2015, Planned Parenthood hired Fusion GPS, the strategic intelligence firm that sky rocketed to infamy when Hillary Clinton paid them for the "PeePee" Dossier which became the basis for the Mueller Investigation. Fusion GPS was retained to defensively investigate the veracity of Daleiden's videos and they concluded the videos were the product of aggressive and misleading editing. A US Court of Appeals in January 2019, however concluded that the videos were authentic.

The criminal case has been dragging along since 2017. In November 2019, a jury in the civil case awarded Planned Parenthood more than $2 million in punitive and compensatory damages. In February 2020, David Daleiden pleaded not guilty to nine counts of criminal eavesdropping and invasion of privacy and is awaiting trial.

Daleiden says, "I now know what was going on was that Kamala Harris, at the explicit instruction of Planned Parenthood had targeted me and me alone, among all undercover video news gatherers in the State of California to enforce the California Video Recording Law against me and to punish me for speaking the truth about her powerful campaign donors at Planned Parenthood.

"I think what people have to understand about organizations like Planned Parenthood and about their political backers, like Kamala Harris is that they're shameless and they will do whatever they have to do in order to promote their agenda. They'll say whatever they have to say and they are not afraid to use every bit of power at their disposal to force their agenda through.

"Kamala Harris is the single greatest threat to first amendment civil liberties that our country has ever seen. If Kamala Harris is elected to be a heartbeat away from the highest office in the United States of America, you will have someone in the White House who has a radical contempt and disrespect for First Amendment civil liberties, someone who believes that she's entitled to use the powers of her office in order to punish the viewpoints of citizens who disagree with her.


Not just fake news, but embarrassingly fake news.


Kamala is ruthless and unconscionable she will and has been unethical.

After putting thousands away for smoking weed, she was asked "do you smoke" - she laughed.

Why does the Democrats insist on promoting compromised candidates?

We know the answer.


Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Bojack Horseman on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:40am
Journalist David Daleiden tells the story about the éxposé documentary he produced about Planned Parenthood's lucrative trade in fetal body parts and how it caused a phalanx of Feds to appear on his doorstep.



Right there, you know its going to be biased BS.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:51am
Even if this was true, unless you're going to hold Trump to the same level of scrutiny for the aborted babies used for his Regeneron treatment that he's been trying to sell, your outrage and concern mean nothing, as usual.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Bojack Horseman on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:57am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:51am:
Even if this was true, unless you're going to hold Trump to the same level of scrutiny for the aborted babies used for his Regeneron treatment that he's been trying to sell, your outrage and concern mean nothing, as usual.




Also unless they are goiung to consider the fact that 40% of fertilised ova don't implant a publich health crisis, it means they don't give a toss.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Gordon on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:57am
Kamala is a piece of crap.


Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.

The Washington Examiner, September 8, 2019
While district attorney for San Francisco, Kamala Harris withheld evidence that could have exonerated defendants on multiple occasions, in violation of a key due process ruling by the Supreme Court.


One of Harris’s top deputies had emailed a colleague that a crime lab technician had become “increasingly UNDEPENDABLE for testimony.” Weeks later, the technician allegedly took home cocaine from the lab, possibly tainting evidence and raising concerns about hundreds of cases.

Neither Harris nor the prosecutors working for her had informed defense attorneys of the problems — despite rules requiring such disclosure. Harris “failed to disclose information that clearly should have been disclosed,” Superior Court Judge Anne-Christine Massullo wrote in a scathing decision in May 2010.


https://wrongfulconvictionsreport.org/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-ex-prosecutor-a-friend-of-justice/

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:58am


Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 8:38am

Gordon wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:57am:
Kamala is a piece of crap.


Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.

The Washington Examiner, September 8, 2019
While district attorney for San Francisco, Kamala Harris withheld evidence that could have exonerated defendants on multiple occasions, in violation of a key due process ruling by the Supreme Court.


One of Harris’s top deputies had emailed a colleague that a crime lab technician had become “increasingly UNDEPENDABLE for testimony.” Weeks later, the technician allegedly took home cocaine from the lab, possibly tainting evidence and raising concerns about hundreds of cases.

Neither Harris nor the prosecutors working for her had informed defense attorneys of the problems — despite rules requiring such disclosure. Harris “failed to disclose information that clearly should have been disclosed,” Superior Court Judge Anne-Christine Massullo wrote in a scathing decision in May 2010.


https://wrongfulconvictionsreport.org/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-ex-prosecutor-a-friend-of-justice/


Are you going to apply such scrutiny to ACB?

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Dnarever on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 8:40am

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


More and more desperate.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Gordon on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:06am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 8:38am:

Gordon wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:57am:
Kamala is a piece of crap.


Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.

The Washington Examiner, September 8, 2019
While district attorney for San Francisco, Kamala Harris withheld evidence that could have exonerated defendants on multiple occasions, in violation of a key due process ruling by the Supreme Court.


One of Harris’s top deputies had emailed a colleague that a crime lab technician had become “increasingly UNDEPENDABLE for testimony.” Weeks later, the technician allegedly took home cocaine from the lab, possibly tainting evidence and raising concerns about hundreds of cases.

Neither Harris nor the prosecutors working for her had informed defense attorneys of the problems — despite rules requiring such disclosure. Harris “failed to disclose information that clearly should have been disclosed,” Superior Court Judge Anne-Christine Massullo wrote in a scathing decision in May 2010.


https://wrongfulconvictionsreport.org/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-ex-prosecutor-a-friend-of-justice/


Are you going to apply such scrutiny to ACB?


Is ACB likely to be president?

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Dnarever on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Karnal on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:39pm
She’s tinted, Rich.

Need one say more?

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Steampipe on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:41pm
Chances of being president

Trump 49%
Harris 49%
Biden 2%

Harris has way to many strings attached to be an effective POTUS.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Karnal on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:44pm

Gordon wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:57am:
Kamala is a piece of crap.


Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.

The Washington Examiner, September 8, 2019
While district attorney for San Francisco, Kamala Harris withheld evidence that could have exonerated defendants on multiple occasions, in violation of a key due process ruling by the Supreme Court.


One of Harris’s top deputies had emailed a colleague that a crime lab technician had become “increasingly UNDEPENDABLE for testimony.” Weeks later, the technician allegedly took home cocaine from the lab, possibly tainting evidence and raising concerns about hundreds of cases.

Neither Harris nor the prosecutors working for her had informed defense attorneys of the problems — despite rules requiring such disclosure. Harris “failed to disclose information that clearly should have been disclosed,” Superior Court Judge Anne-Christine Massullo wrote in a scathing decision in May 2010.


https://wrongfulconvictionsreport.org/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-ex-prosecutor-a-friend-of-justice/


She’s part Curry-Shitter, Gordon.

Why are you posting words?

I believe the correct interjection would carry a more olfactory sensibility.

You?

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Karnal on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:46pm

Steampipe wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Chances of being president

Trump 49%
Harris 49%
Biden 2%

Harris has way to many strings attached to be an effective POTUS.


Is it the pants-suits?

Don’t answer that one, Gordon.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:58pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 10:39pm:
She’s tinted, Rich.

Need one say more?



She's tinted to try and win the tinted vote.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Richdude on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:21am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 7:40am:
Journalist David Daleiden tells the story about the éxposé documentary he produced about Planned Parenthood's lucrative trade in fetal body parts and how it caused a phalanx of Feds to appear on his doorstep.



Right there, you know its going to be biased BS.



Doesn't happen in Horsy's La La land but does in reality.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Richdude on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese, Made 2 hospital ships available to hard hit NY, enrolled corporation to produce masks and ventilators as instructed by the health team of Fauci and co.

But you know that! Dumping guilt for 150,000 deaths on the innocent doesn't bother Ducky! Those 150 thousand deaths happened mostly in NY,NJ,CA, MI, PA and ME - all  Democrat states.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 24th, 2020 at 7:54am

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese, Made 2 hospital ships available to hard hit NY, enrolled corporation to produce masks and ventilators as instructed by the health team of Fauci and co.

But you know that! Dumping guilt for 150,000 deaths on the innocent doesn't bother Ducky! Those 150 thousand deaths happened mostly in NY,NJ,CA, MI, PA and ME - all  Democrat states.


And when Biden is elected, helps the states work together and institutes national guidelines and support, you know, the leadership we've been lacking from Trump and the country finally sees the deaths drop, the country regain control and start the recovery phase, what then?

How will you keep up the facade that it's all the states fault when you will see real leadership in action getting real results?

Will you try to credit it to Trump somehow?

Will you advocate, like Scoot in AU, to fight all the measures put in place by leaders you don't like, continuing to put petty politics over lives?

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:35am

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese ...


Ah, no.

He most certainly did NOT.

Wanna try again?

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Dnarever on Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:57am

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese, Made 2 hospital ships available to hard hit NY, enrolled corporation to produce masks and ventilators as instructed by the health team of Fauci and co.

But you know that! Dumping guilt for 150,000 deaths on the innocent doesn't bother Ducky! Those 150 thousand deaths happened mostly in NY,NJ,CA, MI, PA and ME - all  Democrat states.



Quote:
The corona virus response is a State matter.


That would work if there was no travel between states, the fact is that this approach aligns the final result with the weakest states performance. Every State acting differently has been the USA's greatest weakness.

The Fact is that the Virus has been a national matter it goes well beyond state borders.


Quote:
Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese, Made 2 hospital ships available to hard hit NY, enrolled corporation to produce masks and ventilators as instructed by the health team of Fauci and co.


He partially closed the Border to china - thousands travelled from China after the lockdown and the Virus was already active and came in from Europe.

2 Hospital ships that were not used were sent to NY while Trump was still saying that the Virus would go away.

The rest was all started way too late. The Story of the Trump response is outlined here - Too little Too late.

Now he is watching the infection rate climbing every day now around 70,000 people a day and that is Trumps plan to let 100's of thousands more people die.

Trump is rounding the corner - Only if we are talking about his sanity.


Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 24th, 2020 at 10:02am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:57am:

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese, Made 2 hospital ships available to hard hit NY, enrolled corporation to produce masks and ventilators as instructed by the health team of Fauci and co.

But you know that! Dumping guilt for 150,000 deaths on the innocent doesn't bother Ducky! Those 150 thousand deaths happened mostly in NY,NJ,CA, MI, PA and ME - all  Democrat states.


[quote]The corona virus response is a State matter.


That would work if there was no travel between states, the fact is that this approach aligns the final result with the weakest states performance. Every State acting differently has been the USA's greatest weakness.

The Fact is that the Virus has been a national matter it goes well beyond state borders.


Quote:
Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese, Made 2 hospital ships available to hard hit NY, enrolled corporation to produce masks and ventilators as instructed by the health team of Fauci and co.


He partially closed the Border to china - thousands travelled from China after the lockdown and the Virus was already active and came in from Europe.

2 Hospital ships that were not used were sent to NY while Trump was still saying that the Virus would go away.

The rest was all started way too late. The Story of the Trump response is outlined here - Too little Too late.

Now he is watching the infection rate climbing every day now around 70,000 people a day and that is Trumps plan to let 100's of thousands more people die.

Trump is rounding the corner - Only if we are talking about his sanity.

[/quote]

Highest number ever, today - 77,000 cases.

It's getting WORSE, and still Trump is doing nothing about it.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 24th, 2020 at 10:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:35am:

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese ...


Ah, no.

He most certainly did NOT.

Wanna try again?


Even if it was true, the virus was already in the country at the time.

It's the lack of action dealing with what was already there that's been the issue the whole time.

I know the talking point is to show that Trump acted fast and it saved 1.8million lives, but in reality, he didn't act fast, the virus was already in the country and then he didn't act at all.

By doing nothing, he left it up to the states.  We know this because it's who Rich et all are blaming for all the deaths to deflect from Trump.  This in turn means they are the ones that saved lives.  Trump can't blame the deaths on them, then take credit for the worst prediction not coming true when he's done nothing to help.

What Trump did was fight against the orders from the states doing the right thing, telling his supporters to fight back, liberate their states which resulted in people refusing to wear masks or social distance and an attempt to kidnap and murder the Governor of Michigan.  Trump also took PPE from these states in the height of their infections and then when they were forced to bid against each other ("United States" no longer) and they sourced it themselves, Trump intercepted the shipments for the national stockpile. 

His actions have directly culminated in at least 130,000 completely avoidable deaths.

And now the 8 Million people who have slipped into poverty, he's holding their safety, their security and they and their families prosperity hostage by refusing to support the stimulus that's needed until "after he wins".

Trump's true legacy will be forever remembered, if not by the history books but by the families for generations to come because his incompetence and negligence led to the needless deaths of at least 130,000 Americans, their parents, partners, children and siblings.

No matter what Biden does to fix Trump's mess, these people will never be able to go home.

And it won't be forgotten.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Richdude on Oct 24th, 2020 at 1:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:35am:

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese ...


Ah, no.

He most certainly did NOT.

Wanna try again?


The Dems howled in disgust! Biden said it was a xenophobic decision, racist, blah blah blah!



Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 24th, 2020 at 1:18pm

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Dnarever on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:36pm
It is simply too late in the US to get on top of it. From here it is purely defensive purely trying to minimise the deaths. They will be trying to turn another 200,000 deaths into 100,000 deaths is all they can do.

They don't have the stomach for a proper shutdown. They have no way to get their hot spots under control - 32 states are hot spots and many others are not far behind.

Title: Re: Why Kamala Harris should not be President
Post by Dnarever on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:42pm

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:35am:

Richdude wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 23rd, 2020 at 9:26pm:

Quote:
Why Kamala Harris should not be President


What a dumb thing to say when the current President is Donald Corona Virus Trump. Talk about should have never ever been president. A few extra votes in 2016 or a less corrupt senate could have saved 150,000 lives.


The corona virus response is a State matter.

Trump acted early to close the border to Chinese ...


Ah, no.

He most certainly did NOT.

Wanna try again?


The Dems howled in disgust! Biden said it was a xenophobic decision, racist, blah blah blah!



Trump keeps saying that but as usual it is untrue.

Biden has correctly called Trump xenophobic but never associated it with the closure of China.

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