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Title: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Super Nova on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:40pm

I find that some people from different cultures do not understand the Australian etiquette of taking the piss.

I have found this site that talks to about how we, as Australian, like to take the piss (plus other aussie etiquette topics) and how the person who is having the piss taken out of them should react.

If you are offended by an Australian taking the piss, it is best to smile and change the topic. Showing the joke hurt your feelings may simply increase the motivation of the Australian to keep saying the joke. Getting angrier and threatening violence may simply result in the Australian taking you up on your offer.

http://convictcreations.com/culture/socialrules.htm

I expect that most people here are Aussies or have learned to accept the Aussie tendency to "take the piss"

On the internet, Aussies still are Aussies and we take the piss at every chance. Particularly if someone doesn't like it. We have examples here that being called a name, a name they have used themselves, all of a sudden it causes offence and they whine like a bitch.

I like our approach to dealing with someone having a go at us. It serves me well as I travel. I find it difficult to understand why others have trouble with understanding that their own reaction to someone "taking the piss" can lead to them being the butt of jokes forever once they react to the piss being taken out of them.

I am thinking this thread can be used to share your thoughts and experiences on how our Taking the Piss Etiquette makes us stronger and truly uniquely Australian.

Further Extract from Link.

Around the world, most jokes are based on some variety of derogatory theme. In order to avoid offending the victim's feelings, most nationalities usually only say the joke when its victim is not present. In Australia, this can be a risky thing to do. Some Australians don't like people making jokes about groups that they are not part of. If they hear a joke about a different group, instead of laughing, they may get angry and call the joke teller a bigot.

Australians seem fonder of using derogatory jokes when the victim of the joke is present. For example, when an Australian meets a New Zealander on holiday, they may ask if they brought velcro gloves in order to get a better grip on those Australian sheep.

"Taking the piss" is the term given to making a joke about someone or an ethnic group, when that person or ethnic group is present. If an American lady married an Australian man, she should expect to hear lots of her husband's friends and family asking her why she would want to marry such a low-life bastard. They don't actually mean that he is a low life bastard, they are just trying to say that they think he is a good bloke.

Targets of a piss-take are expected to reply in kind. An insulting joke in return often increases an Australian's appreciation for you. The English are usually quite good at returning insults. Convicts, Rolf Harris, and voting to retain an English Queen give the Poms good material to work with. Americans seem to have more trouble at taking the piss and perhaps relations between Australia and America are so good as a consequence.

If you are offended by an Australian taking the piss, it is best to smile and change the topic. Showing the joke hurt your feelings may simply increase the motivation of the Australian to keep saying the joke. Getting angrier and threatening violence may simply result in the Australian taking you up on your offer.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by JaSin. on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Super Nova on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:05pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm:

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Thank you.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Super Nova on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:10pm

When i was growing up in a small country town, I quickly learned the "Taking the Piss" Etiquette.

If someone called me a name, if I reacted the shite stirring got worse. You learned not to react and laugh with them.

I observed some kids reacting to names and then that name became their nickname for life. So when nicknames were being allocated, around 15-16 years old, I didn't react to any names I was called. I eventually got a nick name that wasn't bad.

Others got names like "Poof", "Gerkin" (because he had a skin like a gerkin), "Coon", "Monster".... etc.

Taking the piss sorts some how sorts people out. If you cannot handle the piss being taken out of you, you are not an aussie at heart.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Super Nova on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:18pm

I also think that we have learned not to take ourselves too seriously and have learned to laugh at ourselves.

We learn to choose not to take offence.

No topic is taboo in the social etiquette model.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by J.D. on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 8:48pm

Multiculturalism and political correctness has all but killed the Australian take the piss culture, imagine taking the piss out of a Muslim like we used to take the piss out of a Dago, it would be caught on camera and the perpetrator crucified by social media or beheaded or both.

Australia is the most politically correct multicultural nanny country in the world.

oi

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by JaSin. on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:16pm

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm:

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Thank you.

I was taking the piss. :P
HTFU - there is no etiquette ya f*uckin drongo.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Super Nova on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:23pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:16pm:

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm:

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Thank you.

I was taking the piss. :P
HTFU - there is no etiquette ya f*uckin drongo.

Drongo? you wouldn't know etiquette if you fell over it you tall streak of pelican shite.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Bobby. on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:33pm

Mimo the mong has the same name for everyone - "moron."

It might have something to do with his limited vocabulary?

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:33pm:

Mimo the mong has the same name for everyone - "moron."

It might have something to do with his limited vocabulary?

He sure is a moron.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by JaSin. on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 11:27pm

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:23pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:16pm:

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm:

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Thank you.

I was taking the piss. :P
HTFU - there is no etiquette ya f*uckin drongo.

Drongo? you wouldn't know etiquette if you fell over it you tall streak of pelican shite.

Ha! ;D See - that was just an example of the typical taking the piss.
It's almost not too dissimilar to that 'aggressive friendliness' of Australians as shown in the movie Wake in Fright.
Mental jousting. Taking the piss. Baiting the potential enemy. Ever take the piss out of women. Some think its a good come-on approach even if you are using humour and wit to insult them. A woman could tell Peckerhead at a Bar that he had a head like a kicked in kerosene can (*as she flicks his nose to get the 'ding/ting' sound). And he still thinks she likes him.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Super Nova on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 12:51am

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 11:27pm:

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:23pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:16pm:

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm:

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Thank you.

I was taking the piss. :P
HTFU - there is no etiquette ya f*uckin drongo.

Drongo? you wouldn't know etiquette if you fell over it you tall streak of pelican shite.

Yes - a good example.

Now how would you have responded if I said instead.

Don't call me a Drongo. I don't like being called names. It is an insult and disrespectful to the real Drongos out there. Stop it now.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 11:06am

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

On the internet, Aussies still are Aussies and we take the piss at every chance. Particularly if someone doesn't like it. We have examples here that being called a name, a name they have used themselves, all of a sudden it causes offence and they whine like a bitch.

I like our approach to dealing with someone having a go at us. It serves me well as I travel. I find it difficult to understand why others have trouble with understanding that their own reaction to someone "taking the piss" can lead to them being the butt of jokes forever once they react to the piss being taken out of them.

I am thinking this thread can be used to share your thoughts and experiences on how our Taking the Piss Etiquette makes us stronger and truly uniquely Australian.

I think it is a lot more nuanced than simply accepting someone taking the piss
Context, a power imbalance, social values, the relationship between the parties and the setting can all influence whether "taking the piss" is acceptable or not. Those who don't have the emotional intelligence to be able to behave appropriately are usually the ones whining about "political correctness"

For example, If I had a close friend who I called a "sheep rooter" as a nickname, that would be acceptable in private. It would also probably be acceptable in a group of friends. It would probably be unacceptable in a public place like a restaurant and would definitely be unacceptable in the work place.

Context is everything

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 11:17am

Yep Nova, something humorous in return is the best way to counter taking the piss, as long as the humorous response is not excessively insulting

It's an acquired skill and one of my mates was an expert at it, talk about funny, he somehow knew exactly what to say every time

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by JaSin. on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 8:38pm

Super Nova wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 12:51am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 11:27pm:

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:23pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:16pm:

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:59pm:

What an incredibly great topic SuperNova. I'm glad you're back. 8-)

Thank you.

I was taking the piss. :P
HTFU - there is no etiquette ya f*uckin drongo.

Drongo? you wouldn't know etiquette if you fell over it you tall streak of pelican shite.

I would have laughed at the few inconsistencies there.
You don't like being called a Drongo.
You don't like being called anything.
You say the word is an insult and disrespective - to Drongos: As you also call em.
;D

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by JaSin. on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 8:45pm

Signwriting Course Class.
A mixed-blooded Phillipino like young guy student approached me in class. Got into my face eye-ball to eye-ball and with a Fijian in the class also he asked "You calling me a N_____r!? >:(" for no reason but to try and intimidate and bully another supposedly 'white guy'. The attempt for emotional blackmail was there.
I just casually, as if reflex said "Depends. Do you come from West Africa and specifically two nations named after that word?"
He got perplexed and frustrated. The Fijian laughed to himself quietly.
I should have punched him square in the nose for his attempt to 'racially' bully another by default and emotional blackmail. But I just turned away to continue my artwork and let him deal with his own demise.
What gets me is all these darkies that are not even remotely racially or genetically associated with Bantu people - try to jump on their gravy train and violently use the platform to intimidate and lawsuit white people.
...like Adam Goodes; the all Australian African American Aboriginal. :P

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by AussieAmAndARC on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 10:03am

An aspect of our society I don't like.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 10:19am

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

I find that some people from different cultures do not understand the Australian etiquette of taking the piss.

I'd question calling it etiquette... Taking the piss is not intended to be polite, it's intended to be light-hearted banter... And it is...

And, yes, it does seem to take non-Australians aback somewhat, but, apparently people from South Boston, Massachusetts (Southie) would understand it in an instant, leading me to think that the Australian custom of taking the piss is an appropriation from Irish culture.

Could be why there's likely a relationship between the Irish expression of 'taking the rise out of you' and the Australian 'taking the piss out of you'.

They both appear to refer to being 'piss proud'... The false erection you can get when your bladder is full. You may look 'virile' but once the 'piss is taken out of you'... well... there's significant shrinkage.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by issuevoter on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am

We Australian flatter ourselves, especially about our self-criticism. But there are definite limits. You are not allowed take the piss out of anyone's elocution, or lack thereof, but you are allowed to take the piss out of any other nationality's manner of speech.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:25am

Super Nova wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:

You knew Bobby when he was a teenager?

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

Really?

So Australian comedians hamming up 'strine' and taking the piss out of 'Australian received pronunciation' can't happen?

Something Magda Szubanski, Jane Turner and Gina Riley (among many, many others) made a career out of.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:30am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

Good point.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:38am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

And, lest we forget, the great Barry Humphries, who turned Australian-culture piss-taking into a world-famous art form with the likes of Dame Edna Everage, Sir Les Patterson and Bazza Mckenzie.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:41am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:38am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

And, lest we forget, the great Barry Humphries, who turned Australian-culture piss-taking into a world-famous art form with the likes of Dame Edna Everage, Sir Les Patterson and Bazza Mckenzie.

Have you notice it's always the arts and the media elite s.h.i.t.t.i.n.g on working class Australians.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:46am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:41am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:38am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

And, lest we forget, the great Barry Humphries, who turned Australian-culture piss-taking into a world-famous art form with the likes of Dame Edna Everage, Sir Les Patterson and Bazza Mckenzie.

Have you notice it's always the arts and the media elite s.h.i.t.t.i.n.g on working class Australians.

Well, there is the likes of Paul Hogan and Jim Jefferies and many others.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:30pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:38am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

And, lest we forget, the great Barry Humphries, who turned Australian-culture piss-taking into a world-famous art form with the likes of Dame Edna Everage, Sir Les Patterson and Bazza Mckenzie.

I am an Australian in terms of Nation
And a Public Servant in terms of vocation,
But there’s one thing amazes my critics and that’s
How many I wear in terms of hats:
I chair the Cheese Board, I front the Yartz
You could term me a man of many parts
I’m a Renaissance type, if you know the term
And I’ve held long office in terms of term,
Yes I’ve long served Australia in terms of years
And in terms of refreshment I like a few beers.
My opponents are mongrels, scum and worms
Who I bucket in no uncertain terms
And my rich vocabulary always features
Large in terms of my public speeches
My favourite terms in terms of debate
Are: “broadbased package” and “orchestrate”.
But on term I never employ is “failure”
Especially when talking in terms of Australia!
For in terms of lifestyle we’ve got the germs of
A ripper concept to think in terms of.
Yes, in terms of charisma I’ve got the game mastered
In anyone’s terms I’m a well-liked bastard.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Bobby. on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:39pm

But on term I never employ is “failure” ?

But one term I never employ is “failure”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULFMp4jKBo

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:53pm

"I chair the Cheese Board, I front the Yartz"

He sat on the Cheese Board for many years, even though the little flags sticking up his arse were quite painful.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

"I chair the Cheese Board, I front the Yartz"

He sat on the Cheese Board for many years, even though the little flags sticking up his arse were quite painful.

You'd know. You've seen more pricks than a sew-mistress' thimble.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 1:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

"I chair the Cheese Board, I front the Yartz"

He sat on the Cheese Board for many years, even though the little flags sticking up his arse were quite painful.

You'd know. You've seen more pricks than a sew-mistress' thimble.

Indeed.

This forum is full of them.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 1:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 1:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

"I chair the Cheese Board, I front the Yartz"

He sat on the Cheese Board for many years, even though the little flags sticking up his arse were quite painful.

You'd know. You've seen more pricks than a sew-mistress' thimble.

Indeed.

This forum is full of them.

Yuk.

Title: Re: Taking the Piss Etiquette, the Australian Way
Post by issuevoter on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 1:30pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2021 at 11:15am:

"I ashoom there's no wool in Wollongong whether its Wintaah or Summaah. That'd be really sschewpid."