USA:
374,124 dead      +4,134 in the last 24 hours!

Total world Covid dead:
1,906,915        +15,837 in the last 24 hours! shocking.


https://coronaboard.com/

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:00pm:

USA: 374,124 dead      +4,134 in the last 24 hours! Total world Covid dead: 1,906,915        +15,837 in the last 24 hours! shocking. https://coronaboard.com/

UK daily death toll 1041 on 20200106 is 25 % higher than USA on per capita basis.

https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+covid+death+toll&pws=0&gl=us&gws_rd=cr

Hi LTYC - Covid has driven the world crazy -

it even caused the storming of the Capitol building in Washington
as Trump would have won without the China virus.

I wonder if Bojack would agree with me on this?
The Virus seems to be gaining strength and intensity like a temperature rising. I think it's just at a 1/4 of its full potential and life-cycle. It won't give up until all of the human system has been infected (except anyone 'isolated' from it's touch for the duration of its course, where without a solid vaccine, they will eventually have to come in contact with it - but hopefully after it has run its course and weakened way down the track).

I would say that the more 'polluted' (filthier) environments and densely populated areas will be hardest hit. But there is a strain in Samerica that is pretty aggressive in its transference in a sparsely populated area of its own accord, though I don't know why?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:06pm:

Hi LTYC - Covid has driven the world crazy - it even caused the storming of the Capitol building in Washington as Trump would have won without the China virus.

Lol   ;D

Jasin wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:11pm:

I wonder if Bojack would agree with me on this? The Virus seems to be gaining strength and intensity like a temperature rising. I think it's just at a 1/4 of its full potential and life-cycle. It won't give up until all of the human system has been infected (except anyone 'isolated' from it's touch for the duration of its course, where without a solid vaccine, they will eventually have to come in contact with it - but hopefully after it has run its course and weakened way down the track). I would say that the more 'polluted' (filthier) environments and densely populated areas will be hardest hit. But there is a strain in Samerica that is pretty aggressive in its transference in a sparsely populated area of its own accord, though I don't know why?

This is not mid way through the virus nor the end -
it's still at the beginning -
the whole world - every continent is seeded.
This year we'll see what it can really do.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:11pm: I wonder if Bojack would agree with me on this? The Virus seems to be gaining strength and intensity like a temperature rising. I think it's just at a 1/4 of its full potential and life-cycle. It won't give up until all of the human system has been infected (except anyone 'isolated' from it's touch for the duration of its course, where without a solid vaccine, they will eventually have to come in contact with it - but hopefully after it has run its course and weakened way down the track). I would say that the more 'polluted' (filthier) environments and densely populated areas will be hardest hit. But there is a strain in Samerica that is pretty aggressive in its transference in a sparsely populated area of its own accord, though I don't know why? This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do.

Nah.

It will miraculously go away once the weather warms up.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Nah. It will miraculously go away once the weather warms up.

Trump said it would disappear by last Easter!     :o

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:11pm: I wonder if Bojack would agree with me on this? The Virus seems to be gaining strength and intensity like a temperature rising. I think it's just at a 1/4 of its full potential and life-cycle. It won't give up until all of the human system has been infected (except anyone 'isolated' from it's touch for the duration of its course, where without a solid vaccine, they will eventually have to come in contact with it - but hopefully after it has run its course and weakened way down the track). I would say that the more 'polluted' (filthier) environments and densely populated areas will be hardest hit. But there is a strain in Samerica that is pretty aggressive in its transference in a sparsely populated area of its own accord, though I don't know why? This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do.

As much as I am proud of our nation prevailing to a great degree. I feel it will be much like Israel in World War Z.
Infected and sick Refugees trying to flee to Australia for safe haven coming in hundreds of boats out of desperation for good Medical care and a Government that will put money before lives in the end, along with Lefties saying we should let them in with a Medical system that just doesn't have the Staff (poor recruitment drive) to prevail or contain anymore.
The recent 'holiday' period showed our complacency - but it was really due to people from Overseas coming in and slipping through the net.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do.

Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come.
The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat?
The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either.

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either.

There is already a mutant strain of Covid
that is far more contagious -
and it's here in Australia already !

Queensland has it and is now locked down.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:38pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down.

Wtf? :o

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:17pm: Nah. It will miraculously go away once the weather warms up. Trump said it would disappear by last Easter!     :o

They only have 15 cases in the US.

Jasin wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:38pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down. Wtf? :o

Yes the Premier has shutdown QLD for 3 days while they trace it.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:38pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down. Wtf? :o Yes the Premier has shutdown QLD for 3 days while they trace it.

It's in Perth too.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:49pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:38pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down. Wtf? :o Yes the Premier has shutdown QLD for 3 days while they trace it. It's in Perth too.

Yes - I saw your thread -
3 cases in Perth.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/15

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:49pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:38pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down. Wtf? :o Yes the Premier has shutdown QLD for 3 days while they trace it. It's in Perth too. Yes - I saw your thread - 3 cases in Perth. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/15

It's 40.2 degrees at the moment, so it should go away pretty soon.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 3:01pm:

It's 40.2 degrees at the moment, so it should go away pretty soon.

It won't go away.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:38pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down. Wtf? :o Yes the Premier has shutdown QLD for 3 days while they trace it.

She shut down parts of Brissie you fool, not Qld.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:38pm:

There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down.

Not until 6pm tonight Queensland time.

And, as we've seen with Victoria and New South Wales, people are trying to flee Brisbane in droves now before the lockdown, potentially spreading the virus to other parts of the State.

Traffic chaos as drivers leave Brisbane ahead of 6pm lockdown

https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-coronavirus-news-major-delays-on-roads-out-of-brisbane-as-residents-flee-the-city-ahead-of-6pm-lockdown/259d68a9-8b15-457a-bf6d-ad64b1791e9a


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Drivers on major roads out of Brisbane are experiencing lengthy delays as residents flee the city ahead of the 6pm lockdown. Traffic has almost been brought to a standstill on the Bruce Highway, as thousands of residents try to make their way to the Sunshine Coast.

And, as usual, we also have the ones who don't care if they spread the virus interstate.


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Brisbane Airport has also been busy, as travellers rush to get home to beat new border restrictions in other states and territories.

Also...


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The rush to leave the city comes as the Prime Minister urged residents to "stay where you are".

Too late, as usual.

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Traffic chaos as drivers leave Brisbane ahead of 6pm lockdown

More madness that will spread it further.

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

And, as we've seen with Victoria and New South Wales, people are trying to flee Brisbane in droves now before the lockdown, potentially spreading the virus to other parts of the State.

She should just shut it down with zero notice.

The world is in a state of 'isolating away from the Virus' as is the case of NZ, Cuba, Australia and some other smaller nations.

Shame we couldn't have 'isolated' the Virus in China from the rest of the world.
China must pay for this and because of the Virus - the CCP will eventually fall (Military/Politics will fall in China).

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 3:24pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:22pm: And, as we've seen with Victoria and New South Wales, people are trying to flee Brisbane in droves now before the lockdown, potentially spreading the virus to other parts of the State. She should just shut it down with zero notice.

Oh dear....then there will be no rush for toilet paper!

Honestly, this new UK strain has come into Brisbane from the UK....yet the rest of Oz was shut away from Qld, but not the international travellers with the covid infectious strains, all of them.

Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place?

Our PM is saying to stay where we are, not to go anywhere, yet...how hypocritical that international travellers are being let in all over the place?

Oh I see they made a plea to "please put on mask as you are leaving your front door to go anywhere"......gee....really?

First I heard of it  ::)

Sophia wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place?

these are aussies trying to return home. The govt. has a duty to help bring them home.

What I don't understand why they bring them into the capital cities. Fly them to Christmas Island (or any of our island resorts that are now shut down due to lack of tourists from covid) and make them do their 14 days there. At least that way if someone is found positive it's contained.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:37pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:28pm: Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? these are aussies trying to return home. The govt. has a duty to help bring them home. What I don't understand why they bring them into the capital cities. Fly them to Christmas Island (or any of our island resorts that are now shut down due to lack of tourists from covid) and make them do their 14 days there. At least that way if someone is found positive it's contained.

That's the best idea you've ever had.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:37pm: Sophia wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:28pm: Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? these are aussies trying to return home. The govt. has a duty to help bring them home. What I don't understand why they bring them into the capital cities. Fly them to Christmas Island (or any of our island resorts that are now shut down due to lack of tourists from covid) and make them do their 14 days there. At least that way if someone is found positive it's contained. That's the best idea you've ever had.

not quite as good as the idea I once had to help you come out of the closet. What was your boyfriends name again? He was going to help me with it but he chickened out.

Sophia wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:24pm: Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:22pm: And, as we've seen with Victoria and New South Wales, people are trying to flee Brisbane in droves now before the lockdown, potentially spreading the virus to other parts of the State. She should just shut it down with zero notice. Oh dear....then there will be no rush for toilet paper! Honestly, this new UK strain has come into Brisbane from the UK....yet the rest of Oz was shut away from Qld, but not the international travellers with the covid infectious strains, all of them. Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? Our PM is saying to stay where we are, not to go anywhere, yet...how hypocritical that international travellers are being let in all over the place? Oh I see they made a plea to "please put on mask as you are leaving your front door to go anywhere"......gee....really? First I heard of it  ::)

negative Nellie  doesnt know how to handle the bloody thing without closing borders.....instantly...gawd knows what she thinks that will save  it might keep it in Qld...  with some luck   

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

negative Nellie  doesnt know how to handle the bloody thing without closing borders.....instantly...gawd knows what she thinks that will save  it might keep it in Qld...  with some luck

you do realise that she's trying to stop the new train from spreading? At 70% more contagious than previous strains, I'd have thought a high risk candidate like you would be grateful.

NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer.

she would look good in a Gestapo uniform.


outside Auschwitz......

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform.

it's not about you coming up here you stupid twat.

A lot of people around the country currently have covid traced back to the North Sydney strain, and yet they never traveled to north Sydney  ... how do you think that happened? :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:40pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:37pm: NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform. it's not about you coming up here you stupid twat. A lot of people around the country currently have covid traced back to the North Sydney strain, and yet they never traveled to north Sydney  ... how do you think that happened? :D :D :D :D

I live in ACT twat  we get nothing we are protected.......you take your blinkers off you might have already known that...

clown. >:(

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:40pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:37pm: NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform. it's not about you coming up here you stupid twat. A lot of people around the country currently have covid traced back to the North Sydney strain, and yet they never traveled to north Sydney  ... how do you think that happened? :D :D :D :D I live in ACT twat  we get nothing we are protected.......you take your blinkers off you might have already known that... clown. >:(

you are protected BECAUSE of the lock downs across the country you idiot.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:42pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:40pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:37pm: NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform. it's not about you coming up here you stupid twat. A lot of people around the country currently have covid traced back to the North Sydney strain, and yet they never traveled to north Sydney  ... how do you think that happened? :D :D :D :D I live in ACT twat  we get nothing we are protected.......you take your blinkers off you might have already known that... clown. >:( you are protected BECAUSE of the lock downs across the country you idiot.

Don't call Cods an idiot - you fool.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:49pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:42pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:40pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:37pm: NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform. it's not about you coming up here you stupid twat. A lot of people around the country currently have covid traced back to the North Sydney strain, and yet they never traveled to north Sydney  ... how do you think that happened? :D :D :D :D I live in ACT twat  we get nothing we are protected.......you take your blinkers off you might have already known that... clown. >:( you are protected BECAUSE of the lock downs across the country you idiot. Don't call Cods an idiot - you fool.

Shut up stupid. When cods stops making idiotic comments I'll stop calling her an idiot. Until then she, and you, will have to reap what you sow.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:38pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Virus singular? Covid 19 is only one of many to come. The west is too gutless to draw attention to the warm meat market, not just in China, but in Africa. Or have we all forgotten Ebola came from our species eating warm monkey meat? The Chinese may have played genetic engineering with Covid but it’s not necessary to do so to infect the entire planet. Just keep selling warm meet at your local market and cooking it medium rare and bingo...............Oh, and tearing down virgin forests isn’t much help either. There is already a mutant strain of Covid that is far more contagious - and it's here in Australia already ! Queensland has it and is now locked down. Wtf? :o Yes the Premier has shutdown QLD for 3 days while they trace it.

Incorrect - the Greater Brisbane area is in a 3 day lockdown from 6pm yesterday/Friday 8th Jan. to Monday 11th Jan.

Stupid thing was they gave the inhabitants about 8 hrs notice ........

and there was a mass exodus with the highways & byways to the north in gridlock as they did a runner before 6 pm.

How that will help a lockdown if many of those fleeing have come from hotspots in the area I don't know....... possibility of spreading it further.

And the panic buying started there and here 3 hrs further up the coast yesterday .... toilet paper shelves in Woolies empty at 11 am.

No one should have been allowed out of the lockdown area.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 3:24pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:22pm: And, as we've seen with Victoria and New South Wales, people are trying to flee Brisbane in droves now before the lockdown, potentially spreading the virus to other parts of the State. She should just shut it down with zero notice.

Correct that's what should have happened....

but they don't have enough coppers to enforce it.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:37pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:28pm: Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? these are aussies trying to return home. The govt. has a duty to help bring them home. What I don't understand why they bring them into the capital cities. Fly them to Christmas Island (or any of our island resorts that are now shut down due to lack of tourists from covid) and make them do their 14 days there. At least that way if someone is found positive it's contained.

Agree with that .....

but remember the hue & cry about putting boat people in there? ......

many of which may have been carrying disease.

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:28pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:24pm: Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:22pm: And, as we've seen with Victoria and New South Wales, people are trying to flee Brisbane in droves now before the lockdown, potentially spreading the virus to other parts of the State. She should just shut it down with zero notice. Oh dear....then there will be no rush for toilet paper! Honestly, this new UK strain has come into Brisbane from the UK....yet the rest of Oz was shut away from Qld, but not the international travellers with the covid infectious strains, all of them. Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? Our PM is saying to stay where we are, not to go anywhere, yet...how hypocritical that international travellers are being let in all over the place? Oh I see they made a plea to "please put on mask as you are leaving your front door to go anywhere"......gee....really? First I heard of it  ::) negative Nellie  doesnt know how to handle the bloody thing without closing borders.....instantly...gawd knows what she thinks that will save  it might keep it in Qld...  with some luck

Good grief ... you can be so ridiculous at times.

How about she fly a plane load straight to Canberra?

Just so you guys can get some herd immunity ey? ::)

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform. outside Auschwitz......

And even more ridiculous

all coming from your rusted on Tory attitude.

How did Hot pants Gladys go ... from day dot?

That could have easily seen you in Canberra under a huge wave.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:49pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:42pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:40pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:37pm: NO risk of me ever going up there....not a prayer. she would look good in a Gestapo uniform. it's not about you coming up here you stupid twat. A lot of people around the country currently have covid traced back to the North Sydney strain, and yet they never traveled to north Sydney  ... how do you think that happened? :D :D :D :D I live in ACT twat  we get nothing we are protected.......you take your blinkers off you might have already known that... clown. >:( you are protected BECAUSE of the lock downs across the country you idiot. Don't call Cods an idiot - you fool.

Her statements in this thread are idiotic.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:37pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:28pm: Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? these are aussies trying to return home. The govt. has a duty to help bring them home. What I don't understand why they bring them into the capital cities. Fly them to Christmas Island (or any of our island resorts that are now shut down due to lack of tourists from covid) and make them do their 14 days there. At least that way if someone is found positive it's contained.

A lot of people have been saying the same thing for quite a while now but apparently there's some sort of 'stigma' attached to Christmas Island since it was used to house refugees.

We even had quarantine facilities set up here on Rottnest Island off the coast of Perth for a while last year but that also seems to have stopped and inner city hotels are once again being used.

I believe it may have also had something to do with a lot of these "returned travellers" throwing tantrums about not just having to quarantine for 14 days but also having to pay for their quarantine expenses even when they are given inner city hotel rooms.

I can just imagine the behaviour of some of these self entitled "Karens" if they were required to quarantine somewhere like Christmas Island or even Rottnest.

Case of UK strain flew into Queensland from Melbourne as no new cases recorded

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-update-queensland-brisbane-lockdown-fines-issued-uk-strain/9e366395-4c7c-4f69-87f7-4e258702beeb


Quote:

She said health authorities had found a woman had flown into the state from Melbourne infected with the UK strain of the virus. The woman flew in on Jetstar flight JQ570 at 11pm on January 5 after arriving from the UK to Melbourne on Boxing Day.

Quote:

"She got tested in hotel quarantine there on December 27, and she was found to be positive. "So she was then isolated and did the 10 days required isolation, cleared all her symptoms, and was allowed to leave Victoria and fly to Queensland on January 5. In spite of being cleared to travel to Queensland, she still tested positive.

Never going to get on top of the virus while this sort of thing keeps happening.

Oh, and...


Quote:

"The risk is extremely low, very, very, very low because she is right at the end of her potential infectious period".

Yeah, we keep hearing about this "low" risk. Been hearing it over and over since the first COVID-19 case flew into Australia late in January last year. Tell it to all the people who have lost their jobs and the owners who have had to close their businesses - some of them permanently.

Carl D wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 9:15am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:37pm: Sophia wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 4:28pm: Why not just forget about allowing international travellers into Oz in the first place? these are aussies trying to return home. The govt. has a duty to help bring them home. What I don't understand why they bring them into the capital cities. Fly them to Christmas Island (or any of our island resorts that are now shut down due to lack of tourists from covid) and make them do their 14 days there. At least that way if someone is found positive it's contained. A lot of people have been saying the same thing for quite a while now but apparently there's some sort of 'stigma' attached to Christmas Island since it was used to house refugees. We even had quarantine facilities set up here on Rottnest Island off the coast of Perth for a while last year but that also seems to have stopped and inner city hotels are once again being used. I believe it may have also had something to do with a lot of these "returned travellers" throwing tantrums about not just having to quarantine for 14 days but also having to pay for their quarantine expenses even when they are given inner city hotel rooms. I can just imagine the behaviour of some of these self entitled "Karens" if they were required to quarantine somewhere like Christmas Island or even Rottnest.

These are mostly white folks so they can stay in city hotels
It's only the tinted folk that we send to Christmas Island and outback remand centres

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:11pm: I wonder if Bojack would agree with me on this? The Virus seems to be gaining strength and intensity like a temperature rising. I think it's just at a 1/4 of its full potential and life-cycle. It won't give up until all of the human system has been infected (except anyone 'isolated' from it's touch for the duration of its course, where without a solid vaccine, they will eventually have to come in contact with it - but hopefully after it has run its course and weakened way down the track). I would say that the more 'polluted' (filthier) environments and densely populated areas will be hardest hit. But there is a strain in Samerica that is pretty aggressive in its transference in a sparsely populated area of its own accord, though I don't know why? This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Nah. It will miraculously go away once the weather warms up.

Pity the same couldn't be said about you knobhead...............

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:13pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:11pm: I wonder if Bojack would agree with me on this? The Virus seems to be gaining strength and intensity like a temperature rising. I think it's just at a 1/4 of its full potential and life-cycle. It won't give up until all of the human system has been infected (except anyone 'isolated' from it's touch for the duration of its course, where without a solid vaccine, they will eventually have to come in contact with it - but hopefully after it has run its course and weakened way down the track). I would say that the more 'polluted' (filthier) environments and densely populated areas will be hardest hit. But there is a strain in Samerica that is pretty aggressive in its transference in a sparsely populated area of its own accord, though I don't know why? This is not mid way through the virus nor the end - it's still at the beginning - the whole world - every continent is seeded. This year we'll see what it can really do. Nah. It will miraculously go away once the weather warms up. Pity the same couldn't be said about you knobhead...............

Quiet - you knob jockey.

Did you say something blobby?

A sandwich shop lady refused sell me a sandwich yesterday unless I typed my name and number into what looked like a mobile phone. I asked what happens to the info, she said it goes to the government. I said no thanks and went to another sandwich shop where customers were ignoring a writing pad and pen near the counter for names and numbers. I got everything I wanted without any fuss

The comedy continues

Just heard on the ABC TV news tonight.

The USA has had over 15,000 Covid deaths in 4 days.
It's a disaster.


https://coronaboard.com/

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 3:36pm:

A sandwich shop lady refused sell me a sandwich yesterday unless I typed my name and number into what looked like a mobile phone. I asked what happens to the info, she said it goes to the government. I said no thanks and went to another sandwich shop where customers were ignoring a writing pad and pen near the counter for names and numbers. I got everything I wanted without any fuss The comedy continues

good on you for punishing a hard working, already struggling business who has no choice but do as asked or risk a $55 000 fine. I hope she goes broke for daring to follow the law. The dumb bitch


::) ::) ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

Just heard on the ABC TV news tonight. The USA has had over 15,000 Covid deaths in 4 days. It's a disaster. https://coronaboard.com/

yes but 15 000 deaths is nothing. It's more important that Bias can buy his sandwich without being made to spell his name out. Imagine being asked to do that whilst under pressure of them watching him. What if he got the spelling wrong? Then he'd die of embarrassment. Much better another 15 000 strangers die than that.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

Just heard on the ABC TV news tonight. The USA has had over 15,000 Covid deaths in 4 days. It's a disaster. https://coronaboard.com/

Fake news, Bobby.

They only have 15 cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2021 at 7:12pm: Just heard on the ABC TV news tonight. The USA has had over 15,000 Covid deaths in 4 days. It's a disaster. https://coronaboard.com/ Fake news, Bobby. They only have 15 cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

15,000   -  trust me.

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 9th, 2021 at 3:36pm: A sandwich shop lady refused sell me a sandwich yesterday unless I typed my name and number into what looked like a mobile phone. I asked what happens to the info, she said it goes to the government. I said no thanks and went to another sandwich shop where customers were ignoring a writing pad and pen near the counter for names and numbers. I got everything I wanted without any fuss The comedy continues good on you for punishing a hard working, already struggling business who has no choice but do as asked or risk a $55 000 fine. I hope she goes broke for daring to follow the law. The dumb bitch ::) ::) ::)

There's no virus in the town where I shop numpty, mask wearing is rare. That sheila is applying an extreme measure unnecessarily and is losing money.

We're not in the big city that got rid of the virus and then let it back in again, don't you watch the comedy show on ABC News 24?, Zero cases, then planes allowed in, presto, more cases in Sydney. All latest cases originated from international travelers, how stupid is that? Longname is putting money before peoples health in case you haven't realized it - how's letting planes in gonna get rid of the virus?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 1:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2021 at 7:28pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 9th, 2021 at 3:36pm: A sandwich shop lady refused sell me a sandwich yesterday unless I typed my name and number into what looked like a mobile phone. I asked what happens to the info, she said it goes to the government. I said no thanks and went to another sandwich shop where customers were ignoring a writing pad and pen near the counter for names and numbers. I got everything I wanted without any fuss The comedy continues good on you for punishing a hard working, already struggling business who has no choice but do as asked or risk a $55 000 fine. I hope she goes broke for daring to follow the law. The dumb bitch ::) ::) ::) There's no virus in the town where I shop numpty, mask wearing is rare. That sheila is applying an extreme measure unnecessarily and is losing money. We're not in the big city that got rid of the virus and then let it back in again, don't you watch the comedy show on ABC News 24?, Zero cases, then planes allowed in, presto, more cases in Sydney. All latest cases originated from international travelers, how stupid is that? Longname is putting money before peoples health in case you haven't realized it - how's letting planes in gonna get rid of the virus?

it matters not one iota if there is any virus in your town. She is bound by law to collect details of anyone in the shop or risk a $55k fine

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:06pm:

Hi LTYC - Covid has driven the world crazy - it even caused the storming of the Capitol building in Washington as Trump would have won without the China virus.

Speculation , maybe - maybe not.

Trump was still the worst most corrupt president ever irrespective of his incompetence with the virus.

Trump was deeply hated by the majority and without the virus would he have been able to get all the additional voters to turn out ? Very doubtful if they thought they were going to win.

Much of the anti Trump democrat vote may not have been about the virus it may have been there anyway. It could easily have been worse for Trump.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 1:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2021 at 7:28pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 9th, 2021 at 3:36pm: A sandwich shop lady refused sell me a sandwich yesterday unless I typed my name and number into what looked like a mobile phone. I asked what happens to the info, she said it goes to the government. I said no thanks and went to another sandwich shop where customers were ignoring a writing pad and pen near the counter for names and numbers. I got everything I wanted without any fuss The comedy continues There's no virus in the town where I shop numpty, mask wearing is rare. good on you for punishing a hard working, already struggling business who has no choice but do as asked or risk a $55 000 fine. I hope she goes broke for daring to follow the law. The dumb bitch ::) ::) ::) There's no virus in the town where I shop numpty, mask wearing is rare. That sheila is applying an extreme measure unnecessarily and is losing money. We're not in the big city that got rid of the virus and then let it back in again, don't you watch the comedy show on ABC News 24?, Zero cases, then planes allowed in, presto, more cases in Sydney. All latest cases originated from international travelers, how stupid is that? Longname is putting money before peoples health in case you haven't realized it - how's letting planes in gonna get rid of the virus?

Quote:

here's no virus in the town where I shop numpty, mask wearing is rare

People in contact with virus carriers are known to have travelled in this period stopping in regional centres for food and drinks. You sidestepping safety measures is nothing to be proud of.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

Just heard on the ABC TV news tonight. The USA has had over 15,000 Covid deaths in 4 days. It's a disaster. https://coronaboard.com/

They have been averaging about 4,000 a day for a while now. 15,000 in 4 days is a bit on the low side. With Xmas travel, the riots and the more contagious virus strain they would be expecting another bump in the numbers for late this month next month.

Expect it to pass 5,000 a day within a few weeks.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:00pm:

USA: 374,124 dead      +4,134 in the last 24 hours! Total world Covid dead: 1,906,915        +15,837 in the last 24 hours! shocking. https://coronaboard.com/

2 days later 10th Jan 2021  - it's insane:


USA  dead 381,480         +7,356  more dead in 2 days

The world

1,934,851  dead       +27,936  more dead in 2 days.

Apes get it too:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/us/apes-covid-19-san-diego-zoo-scn-trnd/index.html

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210111165539-01-gorillas-covid-san-diego-zoo-exlarge-169.jpg



At least two gorillas at San Diego Zoo tested positive for Covid-19, in the first known cases among great apes

By Cheri Mossburg and Leah Asmelash, CNN

Updated 2312 GMT (0712 HKT) January 11, 2021


(CNN)The surge of Covid-19 in California has just gotten even worse, after at least two gorillas at the San Diego Zoo became infected with Covid-19, the zoo and Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday.
Three animals are currently showing symptoms of the virus, and it is suspected that they were infected by an asymptomatic staff member, according to a press release.
This is the first known instance of coronavirus in great apes, the zoo said, though previous research has shown that some non-human primates are susceptible. The gorillas live as a family, so it is assumed that all members have been exposed, zoo officials say.
It started last Wednesday, when two zoo gorillas began coughing. A preliminary test within the group showed presence of the virus on Friday, and the US Department of Agriculture's National Veterinary Services Laboratory confirmed the positive results Monday.
It is unknown whether the gorillas will have any serious reaction, the zoo said, but they are being closely monitored.

Bobby

I was talking to a phillipino whose family still live in the Philippines.

No one is concerned about covid and it hasn't increased deaths to any extent.

Why?

Because phillipino s are all skinny and they don't have a health system like the west that keeps 85 Yos with diabetes and heart disease alive to " linger"


So this rather weak virus has little effect.

It is the west that has gone against nature , telling morbidly obese people with garbage health they are entitled to gold standard health care forever.


They never should have been told that.

The very old and chronically diseased should not be in ICU .


iICU is for a young person involved in a car accident or who nearly drowns or a newborn baby where they can live a long healthy life.


No 85 yo with several diseases has any prospect of doing that.

We are expecting medicine to do much more than it was ever intended to do

Hi Aqua,
when I was boy -
a very long time ago -
people used to die at the age of say 55
and people would say "that person died of old age."
Even the newspapers would say that.
There were no reasons given such as
coronary artery embolism  etc.
Old age used to kill people.
Now - people are on a dozen medications per day
and they can keep them alive until 85 or 90
but of course they end up for years in nursing homes
unable to move - being taken out of bed and put
into wheel chairs using a crane.
Are we really doing the right thing?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age." Even the newspapers would say that. There were no reasons given such as coronary artery embolism  etc. Old age used to kill people. Now - people are on a dozen medications per day and they can keep them alive until 85 or 90 but of course they end up for years in nursing homes unable to move - being taken out of bed and put into wheel chairs using a crane. Are we really doing the right thing?

They are probably living longer because of better diet, less smoking, and better OHS practices in the workforce ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 2:43pm: Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age." Even the newspapers would say that. There were no reasons given such as coronary artery embolism  etc. Old age used to kill people. Now - people are on a dozen medications per day and they can keep them alive until 85 or 90 but of course they end up for years in nursing homes unable to move - being taken out of bed and put into wheel chairs using a crane. Are we really doing the right thing? They are probably living longer because of better diet, less smoking, and better OHS practices in the workforce ;)

Hi Nail,
I reckon it's more about the magic pills that keep people alive.
Only millionaires could afford to smoke now.
A packet of 25 cigarettes is over $50.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:52pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 2:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 2:43pm: Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age." Even the newspapers would say that. There were no reasons given such as coronary artery embolism  etc. Old age used to kill people. Now - people are on a dozen medications per day and they can keep them alive until 85 or 90 but of course they end up for years in nursing homes unable to move - being taken out of bed and put into wheel chairs using a crane. Are we really doing the right thing? They are probably living longer because of better diet, less smoking, and better OHS practices in the workforce ;) Hi Nail, I reckon it's more about the magic pills that keep people alive. Only millionaires could afford to smoke now. A packet of 25 cigarettes is over $50.

Also we have much better dental health care so people don't die of blood poisoning from a tooth abscess which was quite common in the early times !

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 2:43pm: Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age." Even the newspapers would say that. There were no reasons given such as coronary artery embolism  etc. Old age used to kill people. Now - people are on a dozen medications per day and they can keep them alive until 85 or 90 but of course they end up for years in nursing homes unable to move - being taken out of bed and put into wheel chairs using a crane. Are we really doing the right thing? They are probably living longer because of better diet, less smoking, and better OHS practices in the workforce ;)

Nail, I don't think our diet is better.

I think bobby is right.

More and more tablets to keep people alive.
And those tablets make big pharma companies a fortune.

Most of the medications are paid for by the taxpayer.
Most are taken by the old and frail .
Big pharma is a major donor to doctors and governments.
I think that's why a lot of governments are reluctant to pass voluntary euthanasia laws.
It would cost big pharma a fortune.
And now big pharma gets to make 100s of billions by selling vaccines, maybe 6 monthly
And all to protect big pharmas cash cows....the old frail diabetic with heart disease.



And they closed gyms in brisbane because of one case.
But left maccas open
Something is telling me, big money and paid for politicians want to keep the cash cow growing  ;)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age."

Were you alive in Victorian times?

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 2:43pm: Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age." Were you alive in Victorian times?

Not quite that old.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

Hi Aqua, when I was boy - a very long time ago - people used to die at the age of say 55 and people would say "that person died of old age."

Was that your ten year old mates? :D :D

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/scientists-call-for-pause-on-astrazeneca-vaccine-rollout-20210112-p56tjt.html

Scientists call for pause on AstraZeneca vaccine rollout.


The Australian and New Zealand Society for Immunology says the federal government should immediately pause the planned rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine because it may not be effective enough to generate herd immunity.

Phase three clinical trials of the vaccine, which is the centrepiece of Australia's vaccination strategy, show it is only 62 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19 when given in the recommended dose. Trials suggest vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are about 95 per cent effective.

The death rate for Nipah virus
is up to 75% and it has no vaccine.



https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210106-nipah-virus-how-bats-could-cause-the-next-pandemic


While the world focuses on Covid-19, scientists are working hard to ensure it doesn't cause the next pandemic.

It was 3 January 2020, and Supaporn Wacharapluesadee was standing by, awaiting a delivery. Word had spread that there was some kind of respiratory disease affecting people in Wuhan, China, and with the Lunar New Year approaching, many Chinese tourists were headed to neighbouring Thailand to celebrate. Cautiously, the Thai government began screening passengers arriving from Wuhan at the airport, and a few select labs – including Wacharapluesadee's – were chosen to process the samples to try to detect the problem.

Wacharapluesadee is an expert virus hunter. She runs the Thai Red Cross Emerging Infectious Disease-Health Science Centre in Bangkok. Over the past 10 years, she's been part of Predict, a worldwide effort to detect and stop diseases that can jump from non-human animals to humans.

She and her team have sampled many species. But their main focus has been on bats, which are known to harbour many coronaviruses.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/061/663/328/original/bc7fdde62fdb3334.jpeg

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html

(CNN)The US reported its highest daily number of Covid-19 deaths on Tuesday with more than

4,320 fatalities attributed to the virus in one day


It marked the second time -- both this month and since the pandemic's start -- that the US reported more than 4,000 Covid-19 deaths in a single day.
Over the past week, the US has averaged more than 3,300 deaths every day, a jump of more than 217% from mid-November.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 2:24pm:

Bobby I was talking to a phillipino whose family still live in the Philippines. No one is concerned about covid and it hasn't increased deaths to any extent. Why? Because phillipino s are all skinny and they don't have a health system like the west that keeps 85 Yos with diabetes and heart disease alive to " linger" So this rather weak virus has little effect. It is the west that has gone against nature , telling morbidly obese people with garbage health they are entitled to gold standard health care forever. They never should have been told that. The very old and chronically diseased should not be in ICU . iICU is for a young person involved in a car accident or who nearly drowns or a newborn baby where they can live a long healthy life. No 85 yo with several diseases has any prospect of doing that. We are expecting medicine to do much more than it was ever intended to do

I hope one of your kids have to wheel you out to the back paddock & put you down with a shot behind the ear.

An appalling attitude.  ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2021 at 11:29am:

The death rate for Nipah virus is up to 75% and it has no vaccine. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210106-nipah-virus-how-bats-could-cause-the-next-pandemic While the world focuses on Covid-19, scientists are working hard to ensure it doesn't cause the next pandemic. It was 3 January 2020, and Supaporn Wacharapluesadee was standing by, awaiting a delivery. Word had spread that there was some kind of respiratory disease affecting people in Wuhan, China, and with the Lunar New Year approaching, many Chinese tourists were headed to neighbouring Thailand to celebrate. Cautiously, the Thai government began screening passengers arriving from Wuhan at the airport, and a few select labs – including Wacharapluesadee's – were chosen to process the samples to try to detect the problem. Wacharapluesadee is an expert virus hunter. She runs the Thai Red Cross Emerging Infectious Disease-Health Science Centre in Bangkok. Over the past 10 years, she's been part of Predict, a worldwide effort to detect and stop diseases that can jump from non-human animals to humans. She and her team have sampled many species. But their main focus has been on bats, which are known to harbour many coronaviruses.

All the more reason Council authorities should hunt flying fox roosts out of suburban & CBD roosts.

Gnads wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 11:29am: The death rate for Nipah virus is up to 75% and it has no vaccine. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210106-nipah-virus-how-bats-could-cause-the-next-pandemic While the world focuses on Covid-19, scientists are working hard to ensure it doesn't cause the next pandemic. It was 3 January 2020, and Supaporn Wacharapluesadee was standing by, awaiting a delivery. Word had spread that there was some kind of respiratory disease affecting people in Wuhan, China, and with the Lunar New Year approaching, many Chinese tourists were headed to neighbouring Thailand to celebrate. Cautiously, the Thai government began screening passengers arriving from Wuhan at the airport, and a few select labs – including Wacharapluesadee's – were chosen to process the samples to try to detect the problem. Wacharapluesadee is an expert virus hunter. She runs the Thai Red Cross Emerging Infectious Disease-Health Science Centre in Bangkok. Over the past 10 years, she's been part of Predict, a worldwide effort to detect and stop diseases that can jump from non-human animals to humans. She and her team have sampled many species. But their main focus has been on bats, which are known to harbour many coronaviruses. All the more reason Council authorities should hunt flying fox roosts out of suburban & CBD roosts.

The article discuses that.


Should we just eradicate bats?

Not unless we want to make things much worse, says Tracey Goldstein, institute director at the One Health Institute Laboratory and lab director of the Predict Project.

    Bats play hugely important ecological roles – Tracey Goldstein

"Bats play hugely important ecological roles,” says Goldstein. They pollinate more than 500 plant species. They also help to keep insects in check – playing a hugely important role in disease control in humans by, for example, reducing malaria by eating mosquitoes, says Goldstein.

"They play a hugely important role in human health."




She also points out that culling bats has been shown to be detrimental from a disease perspective. "What a population does when you decrease numbers is to have more babies – that would make [a human] more susceptible. By killing animals you increase the risk, because you increase the number of animals shedding virus," she says.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html

(CNN)The US reported its highest daily number of Covid-19 deaths on Tuesday with more than

4,320 fatalities attributed to the virus in one day


It marked the second time -- both this month and since the pandemic's start -- that the US reported more than 4,000 Covid-19 deaths in a single day.
Over the past week, the US has averaged more than 3,300 deaths every day, a jump of more than 217% from mid-November.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:48am:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html (CNN)The US reported its highest daily number of Covid-19 deaths on Tuesday with more than 4,320 fatalities attributed to the virus in one day It marked the second time -- both this month and since the pandemic's start -- that the US reported more than 4,000 Covid-19 deaths in a single day. Over the past week, the US has averaged more than 3,300 deaths every day, a jump of more than 217% from mid-November.

Fake news.

They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," :-[

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 10:48am: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html (CNN)The US reported its highest daily number of Covid-19 deaths on Tuesday with more than 4,320 fatalities attributed to the virus in one day It marked the second time -- both this month and since the pandemic's start -- that the US reported more than 4,000 Covid-19 deaths in a single day. Over the past week, the US has averaged more than 3,300 deaths every day, a jump of more than 217% from mid-November. Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

It's not a joke.
4320 in one day is 3 people per minute.

One person every 20 seconds is dying in the USA from the China virus.

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1610078435/77#77 date=1610585408] Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," :-[/quote]

And despite nearly 400,000 deaths, you have millions of Americans who still believe everything he says.

FFS   ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:58am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 10:53am: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1610078435/77#77 date=1610585408] Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero. And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," :-[/quote] And despite nearly 400,000 deaths, you have millions of Americans who still believe everything he says. FFS   ::)

Yep - in the USA -

393,609 deaths now an extra 4,010 deaths in the last day.

https://coronaboard.com/


15,044 Corona deaths in the world in just one day.

It's corona madness.

Gnads wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 2:24pm: Bobby I was talking to a phillipino whose family still live in the Philippines. No one is concerned about covid and it hasn't increased deaths to any extent. Why? Because phillipino s are all skinny and they don't have a health system like the west that keeps 85 Yos with diabetes and heart disease alive to " linger" So this rather weak virus has little effect. It is the west that has gone against nature , telling morbidly obese people with garbage health they are entitled to gold standard health care forever. They never should have been told that. The very old and chronically diseased should not be in ICU . iICU is for a young person involved in a car accident or who nearly drowns or a newborn baby where they can live a long healthy life. No 85 yo with several diseases has any prospect of doing that. We are expecting medicine to do much more than it was ever intended to do I hope one of your kids have to wheel you out to the back paddock & put you down with a shot behind the ear. An appalling attitude.  ::)

the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves.

if you are old or have lots of health issues  ISOLATE YOURSELF .

dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill  them.

let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe.

it isnt safe for THEM to spend YEARS in these APPALLING mental health conditions, being fear mongered to by the authorities when CLEARLY COVID POSES A TINY TINY THREAT TO THEM.

if i was that selfish that i expected my children and grandchildren to be terrified and abused just to keep me safe, i would BEG THEM to take me out the back paddock and dispose of me  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 11:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 10:58am: Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 10:53am: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1610078435/77#77 date=1610585408] Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero. And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," :-[/quote] And despite nearly 400,000 deaths, you have millions of Americans who still believe everything he says. FFS   ::) Yep - in the USA - 393,609 deaths now an extra 4,010 deaths in the last day. https://coronaboard.com/ 15,044 Corona deaths in the world in just one day. It's corona madness.

15,044 Corona deaths in the world in just one day
means someone dies of Covid every 6 seconds.

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1610078435/77#77 date=1610585408] Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," :-[/quote]

It was going to be gone by Easter.....
And then it was going to disappear after the election

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 11:44am:

the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves. if you are old or have lots of health issues  ISOLATE YOURSELF . dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill  them. let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe.

you're a furqen moron

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:44am: the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves. if you are old or have lots of health issues  ISOLATE YOURSELF . dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill  them. let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe. you're a furqen moron

How exactly are residents in aged care and nursing homes supposed to isolate themselves?
By definition they have carers

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 3:26pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:44am: the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves. if you are old or have lots of health issues  ISOLATE YOURSELF . dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill  them. let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe. you're a furqen moron How exactly are residents in aged care and nursing homes supposed to isolate themselves? By definition they have carers

i wasn't aware  the old people were trying to scare the younger kids either. ::)

More Covid-19 madness.

Over 2 million people now dead from the China virus:

World -
2,002,378  dead  -  an increase of 15,423 in one day!



USA -
397,994  dead -  an increase of 4,066  in one day.

https://coronaboard.com/

Over 2 million people now dead from the China virus:

World -
2,037,385 dead  -  an increase of 6,282 in one day!



USA -
406,790  dead -  an increase of 1,529  in one day.

https://coronaboard.com/

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:45pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 3:39pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 3:26pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:44am: the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves. if you are old or have lots of health issues  ISOLATE YOURSELF . dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill  them. let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe. you're a furqen moron How exactly are residents in aged care and nursing homes supposed to isolate themselves? By definition they have carers i wasn't aware  the old people were trying to scare the younger kids either. ::)

Really

So you think it is acceptable for Anastasia palechook to go on the nightly news and declare that this virus kills children

You really think that that's what an anxious 7 year old child needs to here
Despite the fact that is an obvious lie

Disgraceful self-serving fear mongering

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:19am:

Really So you think it is acceptable for Anastasia palechook to go on the nightly news and declare that this virus kills children You really think that that's what an anxious 7 year old child needs to hear Despite the fact that is an obvious lie Disgraceful self-serving fear mongering

I dunno... I suspect the average 7 year old these days isn't frightened too easily.

Have a look at this picture from 1968 - I was only 11 years old when it was taken but I'm pretty sure it would have scared the living cr*p out of me if I'd seen it at the time.

The average 7 year old today probably wouldn't even notice it and wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if they did see it.

"Evil Santa" is my best way to describe it... if I were one of those cute little reindeer my first thought would have been "RUN!!!!"  :o

(For all the "Perthites" this picture was the old Bairds store on the corner of William and Murray Streets in the city... now the site of Perth Underground train station).

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Are you arguing that rates of anxiety are reducing in the modern Western child

Are you saying that authority figures claiming that childhood deaths will occur does not concern children

:( :( :o

Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 7:34am:

Over 2 million people now dead from the China virus: World - 2,037,385 dead  -  an increase of 6,282 in one day! USA - 406,790  dead -  an increase of 1,529  in one day. https://coronaboard.com/

It's gone up since I posted:


In the world -    2,039,602  dead.

In the USA -         407,202  dead.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 9:48am:

Are you arguing that rates of anxiety are reducing in the modern Western child Are you saying that authority figures claiming that childhood deaths will occur does not concern children :( :( :o

I believe that most children these days are too busy with their faces glued to their smartphones to be concerned about what goes on around them and their "anxiety" probably only increases if they cannot get their daily 'TwitFace' fix.

And, I'm also fairly certain that most children these days couldn't care less about "authority figures".

Carl D wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 3:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 9:48am: Are you arguing that rates of anxiety are reducing in the modern Western child Are you saying that authority figures claiming that childhood deaths will occur does not concern children :( :( :o I believe that most children these days are too busy with their faces glued to their smartphones to be concerned about what goes on around them and their "anxiety" probably only increases if they cannot get their daily 'TwitFace' fix. And, I'm also fairly certain that most children these days couldn't care less about "authority figures".

dear dear, its up from 6% to around 20 %


very dismissive of the health concerns around children.
seems you despise this cohort ??
faces glued to smartphones ?
quite a "generalisation"  ::)

enlighten yourself

the world doesnt totally revolve around the very elderly  ::) ::) ::)


The present study assessed children’s anxiety during the COVID-19 pandemic in order to assist healthcare professionals in understanding children´s reports of anxiety. Comprehending children’s emotions was quite challenging, because the situations they experienced may not have characteristics in common with any previous event in their lives. Thus, giving them a voice was an essential strategy.

In the present study, the prevalence of anxiety among children was between 19.4% (n = 56), using the CAQ, and 21.8% (n = 63), using the NRS. Compared to previous research, this study found a high prevalence of anxiety. The worldwide prevalence of any anxiety disorder among children according to Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) and International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD) was shown to be 6.5%

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 10:53am: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1610078435/77#77 date=1610585408] Fake news. They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero. And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," :-[/quote] It was going to be gone by Easter..... And then it was going to disappear after the election

A few weeks to flatten the curve according to Palachook and other Premiers. Meanwhile, almost 12 months later ...   This is progress.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:24am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 11:29am: The death rate for Nipah virus is up to 75% and it has no vaccine. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210106-nipah-virus-how-bats-could-cause-the-next-pandemic While the world focuses on Covid-19, scientists are working hard to ensure it doesn't cause the next pandemic. It was 3 January 2020, and Supaporn Wacharapluesadee was standing by, awaiting a delivery. Word had spread that there was some kind of respiratory disease affecting people in Wuhan, China, and with the Lunar New Year approaching, many Chinese tourists were headed to neighbouring Thailand to celebrate. Cautiously, the Thai government began screening passengers arriving from Wuhan at the airport, and a few select labs – including Wacharapluesadee's – were chosen to process the samples to try to detect the problem. Wacharapluesadee is an expert virus hunter. She runs the Thai Red Cross Emerging Infectious Disease-Health Science Centre in Bangkok. Over the past 10 years, she's been part of Predict, a worldwide effort to detect and stop diseases that can jump from non-human animals to humans. She and her team have sampled many species. But their main focus has been on bats, which are known to harbour many coronaviruses. All the more reason Council authorities should hunt flying fox roosts out of suburban & CBD roosts. The article discuses that. Should we just eradicate bats? Not unless we want to make things much worse, says Tracey Goldstein, institute director at the One Health Institute Laboratory and lab director of the Predict Project.     Bats play hugely important ecological roles – Tracey Goldstein "Bats play hugely important ecological roles,” says Goldstein. They pollinate more than 500 plant species. They also help to keep insects in check – playing a hugely important role in disease control in humans by, for example, reducing malaria by eating mosquitoes, says Goldstein. "They play a hugely important role in human health." She also points out that culling bats has been shown to be detrimental from a disease perspective. "What a population does when you decrease numbers is to have more babies – that would make [a human] more susceptible. By killing animals you increase the risk, because you increase the number of animals shedding virus," she says.

I'm not suggesting eradication or culling.  ::)

They can be moved on out of residential & CBD roosts where they set up by the use of noise to unsettle them.

Councils all over the country are using this strategy to get them to move -much to the annoyance of all the dogooders who obviously don't have them roosting in their backyards.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 3:45pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 3:39pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 3:26pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:44am: the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves. if you are old or have lots of health issues  ISOLATE YOURSELF . dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill  them. let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe. you're a furqen moron How exactly are residents in aged care and nursing homes supposed to isolate themselves? By definition they have carers i wasn't aware  the old people were trying to scare the younger kids either. ::) Really So you think it is acceptable for Anastasia palechook to go on the nightly news and declare that this virus kills children You really think that that's what an anxious 7 year old child needs to here Despite the fact that is an obvious lie Disgraceful self-serving fear mongering

The mutated strains are widening the choice of hosts ....

and younger people, including children are susceptible.

Is your news supply antiquated? 

::) ::) ::)

As the United States’ covid-19 death toll moves relentlessly beyond 200,000, data shows that less then 100  children and teenagers have died of the disease (nearly all with major co-morbidities) , a fatality rate that is drawing wonder from clinicians and increasing interest among researchers hoping to understand why.

Covid-19 has become the nation’s third-leading cause of death this year, but 18 states had not seen a single fatality among people under 20 as of Sept. 10, according to statistics compiled by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

Children are much more likely to die of homicides (there were 1,865 in 2016, according to government data), drowning (995) or even fires and burns (340).

The numbers are all the more remarkable because respiratory diseases typically hit the young and the old hard, and children are often highly vulnerable to infectious disease. In this way, covid-19 is similar to the flu, which killed an estimated 24,000 to 62,000 people last winter, but 188 people age 17 and below.

Covid: UK records new daily high of 1,610 deaths

Published

50 minutes ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55722168




It means the total number of deaths by that measure is now above 90,000.

A total of 4,266,577 people have now received the first dose of a vaccine, according to the latest government figures.

Another 33,355 positive Covid cases have been recorded - less than half the peak figure of 68,053 on 8 January.

It is the lowest number of daily cases seen since 27 December - before the start of England's third nationwide lockdown.

Dr Yvonne Doyle, medical director at Public Health England, said: "Whilst there are some early signs that show our sacrifices are working, we must continue to strictly abide by the measures in place."

She said reducing contact with others and staying at home will lead to "a fall in the number of infections over time".

    Covid antibodies in 1 in 10 people in December
    Health secretary self-isolating after Covid alert

The figures come as new estimates from the Office for National Statistics show about one in 10 people across the UK tested positive for Covid-19 antibodies in December - roughly double the October figure.

I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia.

I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 9:48pm:

I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia. I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March.

Once the cold weather hits - say April - Covid returns.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:03pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 9:48pm: I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia. I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March. Once the cold weather hits - say April - Covid returns.

Covid-19 was very bad while Florida in the USA was hot.
I'm not sure if this virus is killed so easily by hot weather.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:03pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 9:48pm: I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia. I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March. Once the cold weather hits - say April - Covid returns.

Seems that cold weather only had an impact on Melbourne being the hot spot for covid cases. Other regions in Australia have had near minimal cases of covid until the latter stages of spring. Returning unquarantined overseas travellers to Australia will be what keeps covid19 alive in Australia. Social distancing, hand sanitising and quarantining the sick is what will kill off the virus.

30,000 Australians are now immune to covid19 before a vaccine was available. And the immune systems of anyone without compromised immunity or under the age of 60 means that there is nearly a 100% chance that an acquired case by those who have not had the virus will not only survive but go on to have no lingering effects.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 7:34am: Over 2 million people now dead from the China virus: World - 2,037,385 dead  -  an increase of 6,282 in one day! USA - 406,790  dead -  an increase of 1,529  in one day. https://coronaboard.com/ It's gone up since I posted: In the world -    2,039,602  dead. In the USA -         407,202  dead.

In the World   -  2,130,472  dead  = 90,870 more dead in just 6 days!

In the USA  -  427,635  dead = 20,433 more dead in 6 just days.

Just heard ABC 2  news.

Australian vax to be given by end of March.

They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months.
It's always delayed - always more time.
What's wrong with Australia -
the POMs have already immunised millions of people.

ScoMo should resign.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 6:21pm:

Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign.

Did Australia place an order for it in time to get supply?

Super Nova wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. Did Australia place an order for it in time to get supply?

ScoMo was talking about it last August - I think?

The POMs have gone over 100,000 dead  !

UK  100,162 deaths.

World  2,161,425 deaths

USA      433,909  deaths.



https://coronaboard.com/

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 6:21pm:

Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign.

you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::)

cods wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 8:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::)

dear Cods,
there has been extreme mismanagement all around the world.
Right now the UK has the highest death rate in the world
with over 100,000 dead.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html


So even though their vaccination program is faster than ours
it is still a shocking outcome.



Covid-19 has killed 100,000 people in the UK. Experts say the government is still getting it wrong

By Angela Dewan, CNN

Updated 2257 GMT (0657 HKT) January 26, 2021


London (CNN)In March last year, the UK government said it was hopeful the country could cap its coronavirus deaths at 20,000. It was a bleak target to set, but one the nation came to begrudgingly accept.
Ten months on, Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivered a somber public briefing Tuesday, in which he announced the country could now count more than 100,000 people as its Covid-19 dead, in what he called a "grim statistic."
Of the worst-affected nations, the UK has earned the dishonor of having the highest number of confirmed deaths in the world, proportionate to population.

A surge in case numbers that began in December has pushed hospitals to the brink. ICU workers say they have been forced to "dilute" their care and describe mental health struggles under unprecedented pressure.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 9:22am:

cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::) dear Cods, there has been extreme mismanagement all around the world. Right now the UK has the highest death rate in the world with over 100,000 dead. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html So even though their vaccination program is faster than ours it is still a shocking outcome. Covid-19 has killed 100,000 people in the UK. Experts say the government is still getting it wrong By Angela Dewan, CNN Updated 2257 GMT (0657 HKT) January 26, 2021 London (CNN)In March last year, the UK government said it was hopeful the country could cap its coronavirus deaths at 20,000. It was a bleak target to set, but one the nation came to begrudgingly accept. Ten months on, Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivered a somber public briefing Tuesday, in which he announced the country could now count more than 100,000 people as its Covid-19 dead, in what he called a "grim statistic." Of the worst-affected nations, the UK has earned the dishonor of having the highest number of confirmed deaths in the world, proportionate to population. A surge in case numbers that began in December has pushed hospitals to the brink. ICU workers say they have been forced to "dilute" their care and describe mental health struggles under unprecedented pressure.

really

i think the nurses during the blitz would disagree  ::) ::)

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aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 9:22am: cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::) dear Cods, there has been extreme mismanagement all around the world. Right now the UK has the highest death rate in the world with over 100,000 dead. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html So even though their vaccination program is faster than ours it is still a shocking outcome. Covid-19 has killed 100,000 people in the UK. Experts say the government is still getting it wrong By Angela Dewan, CNN Updated 2257 GMT (0657 HKT) January 26, 2021 London (CNN)In March last year, the UK government said it was hopeful the country could cap its coronavirus deaths at 20,000. It was a bleak target to set, but one the nation came to begrudgingly accept. Ten months on, Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivered a somber public briefing Tuesday, in which he announced the country could now count more than 100,000 people as its Covid-19 dead, in what he called a "grim statistic." Of the worst-affected nations, the UK has earned the dishonor of having the highest number of confirmed deaths in the world, proportionate to population. A surge in case numbers that began in December has pushed hospitals to the brink. ICU workers say they have been forced to "dilute" their care and describe mental health struggles under unprecedented pressure. really i think the nurses during the blitz would disagree  ::) ::)

The nurses in 1941 didn't have a segment of the population  and media saying the bombs weren't real, air raid shleters dont work and that its a burden on the economy to have air defences.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 9:22am:

cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::) dear Cods, there has been extreme mismanagement all around the world. Right now the UK has the highest death rate in the world with over 100,000 dead. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html So even though their vaccination program is faster than ours it is still a shocking outcome. Covid-19 has killed 100,000 people in the UK. Experts say the government is still getting it wrong By Angela Dewan, CNN Updated 2257 GMT (0657 HKT) January 26, 2021 London (CNN)In March last year, the UK government said it was hopeful the country could cap its coronavirus deaths at 20,000. It was a bleak target to set, but one the nation came to begrudgingly accept. Ten months on, Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivered a somber public briefing Tuesday, in which he announced the country could now count more than 100,000 people as its Covid-19 dead, in what he called a "grim statistic." Of the worst-affected nations, the UK has earned the dishonor of having the highest number of confirmed deaths in the world, proportionate to population. A surge in case numbers that began in December has pushed hospitals to the brink. ICU workers say they have been forced to "dilute" their care and describe mental health struggles under unprecedented pressure.

bobby you dont live in England or the rest of the world you live in a very safe country called Australia   where you should be more grateful to those who are running things here......its their worry not ours......the vaccine is here   if you are that panicky you can have my shot if I am ahead of you.......I couldnt careless to be honest..

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 12:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 11:51am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 9:22am: cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::) dear Cods, there has been extreme mismanagement all around the world. Right now the UK has the highest death rate in the world with over 100,000 dead. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html So even though their vaccination program is faster than ours it is still a shocking outcome. Covid-19 has killed 100,000 people in the UK. Experts say the government is still getting it wrong By Angela Dewan, CNN Updated 2257 GMT (0657 HKT) January 26, 2021 London (CNN)In March last year, the UK government said it was hopeful the country could cap its coronavirus deaths at 20,000. It was a bleak target to set, but one the nation came to begrudgingly accept. Ten months on, Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivered a somber public briefing Tuesday, in which he announced the country could now count more than 100,000 people as its Covid-19 dead, in what he called a "grim statistic." Of the worst-affected nations, the UK has earned the dishonor of having the highest number of confirmed deaths in the world, proportionate to population. A surge in case numbers that began in December has pushed hospitals to the brink. ICU workers say they have been forced to "dilute" their care and describe mental health struggles under unprecedented pressure. really i think the nurses during the blitz would disagree  ::) ::) The nurses in 1941 didn't have a segment of the population  and media saying the bombs weren't real, air raid shleters dont work and that its a burden on the economy to have air defences.

oh , so in 2021 they might get their feelings hurt

as opposed to 1941 when they might get a 500 lb bomb delivered to their ward. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

i can see why it is soooooo much more stressful in 2021  ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 6:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 12:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 11:51am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 9:22am: cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm: Just heard ABC 2  news. Australian vax to be given by end of March. They have been saying the start of March 2021 for the last 3 months. It's always delayed - always more time. What's wrong with Australia - the POMs have already immunised millions of people. ScoMo should resign. you are very ungrateful bobby  on the one hand you complain about people dying..AFTER the vaccine....and because we take more precautions than others here you are calling for his head.... ::) ::) ::) dear Cods, there has been extreme mismanagement all around the world. Right now the UK has the highest death rate in the world with over 100,000 dead. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html So even though their vaccination program is faster than ours it is still a shocking outcome. Covid-19 has killed 100,000 people in the UK. Experts say the government is still getting it wrong By Angela Dewan, CNN Updated 2257 GMT (0657 HKT) January 26, 2021 London (CNN)In March last year, the UK government said it was hopeful the country could cap its coronavirus deaths at 20,000. It was a bleak target to set, but one the nation came to begrudgingly accept. Ten months on, Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivered a somber public briefing Tuesday, in which he announced the country could now count more than 100,000 people as its Covid-19 dead, in what he called a "grim statistic." Of the worst-affected nations, the UK has earned the dishonor of having the highest number of confirmed deaths in the world, proportionate to population. A surge in case numbers that began in December has pushed hospitals to the brink. ICU workers say they have been forced to "dilute" their care and describe mental health struggles under unprecedented pressure. really i think the nurses during the blitz would disagree  ::) ::) The nurses in 1941 didn't have a segment of the population  and media saying the bombs weren't real, air raid shleters dont work and that its a burden on the economy to have air defences. oh , so in 2021 they might get their feelings hurt as opposed to 1941 when they might get a 500 lb bomb delivered to their ward. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) i can see why it is soooooo much more stressful in 2021  ::) ::) ::)

Please address the point.

The USA just short of half a million people dead:



496,063 dead.

https://coronaboard.com/

The USA has passed half a million people dead:

502,544


https://coronaboard.com/