Last Wednesdays Gathering in Washington

An American Perspective on the DC Tragedy
On Wednesday January 6th 2021, over a half a million Americans gathered to peacefully rally and petition their government to honor and protect our election from fraud and corruption, and to restore the integrity of the 2020 vote. It was a gathering of good and decent people. They came forth as the best of our nation and shouldered the responsibility of petitioning our representatives to protect our elections and ensure that our vote was clean and legal and the election open and transparent. They gathered in hopes of preserving our Republic for all Americans.

The over half million rallied as they have done for the last decade. They were of good spirits and positive despite the abuses, threats and violence inflicted on them over the last decade. They are the best of America in so many ways. The DC mayor removed the hundreds of portable bathrooms during the night from around the Washington Monument. The restaurants were shut down and the food truck vendors were banned. She acted in ways that are indefensible for a mayor to treat Americans depraving them of access to bathrooms, food and water. The weather was sub-freezing with a strong north west wind of 20 mph and gusty. The grounds were soggy and the cold crept through the moist grounds through shoes and socks after 6 hours of standing out in the elements, but throughout all of this, the crowd remained in good spirits.

President Trump was masterful in presenting the case of massive coordinated voter fraud on an epic historic scale throughout the nation and in particular, in the 6 contested states. The evidence was compelling and irrefutable. It reminded all of the efforts by the major media organs and the social media platforms to suppress, shutdown and censored the fact and evidenced from ever reaching the light of day.  At the end, the president asked the faithful to present themselves to the Capital peacefully. We are and have always been law abiding and supporters of police, so there was no issue about the right to petition our representatives on the matter of protecting our vote and the results of the 2020 election. WE looked restoration of the vote of millions of legal voters.

The violence and mayhem that occurred was not connected in any way to President Trump or the patriots that assembled. As Chairman of the Virginia Tea Party, I condemn lawlessness and violence that occurred at the Capital as I have condemned the violence, looting, arson, assaulting, killing that our nation suffered through all last year by the left-wing hate groups like Antifa and BLM.

So we who assembled for this DC Stop the Steal MAGA rally are proud of our participation and involvement and condemned the incidents of violence that distracted from our good faith effort to protect the voting rights of all Americans and to seek restoration of the millions of legal votes that were negated in the voting fraud operations conducted and orchestrated by the democrats.

No regrets from the many who attended. I applaud all those peaceful and conscientious patriots that gathered on Wednesday and I am proud to be counted among the faithful who stood that day before our President and our Congress. I was honored to be able to help bring a group from my area and neither they nor I ever regretted that decision to come to DC and make a stand for our Republic.

I love our nation and our freedoms. It is a fading hope, but it remains my sincere desire that we Americans can recognize one another as Americans once again.

May God Bless and Keep all of you and may He grant our nation cleansing of the evil that was inflicted on our nation and on our elections and make it so that America is made Great again.

Richdude wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

Last Wednesdays Gathering in Washington An American Perspective on the DC Tragedy On Wednesday January 6th 2021, over a half a million Americans gathered to peacefully rally and petition their government to honor and protect our election from fraud and corruption, and to restore the integrity of the 2020 vote. It was a gathering of good and decent people. They came forth as the best of our nation and shouldered the responsibility of petitioning our representatives to protect our elections and ensure that our vote was clean and legal and the election open and transparent. They gathered in hopes of preserving our Republic for all Americans. The over half million rallied as they have done for the last decade. They were of good spirits and positive despite the abuses, threats and violence inflicted on them over the last decade. They are the best of America in so many ways. The DC mayor removed the hundreds of portable bathrooms during the night from around the Washington Monument. The restaurants were shut down and the food truck vendors were banned. She acted in ways that are indefensible for a mayor to treat Americans depraving them of access to bathrooms, food and water. The weather was sub-freezing with a strong north west wind of 20 mph and gusty. The grounds were soggy and the cold crept through the moist grounds through shoes and socks after 6 hours of standing out in the elements, but throughout all of this, the crowd remained in good spirits. President Trump was masterful in presenting the case of massive coordinated voter fraud on an epic historic scale throughout the nation and in particular, in the 6 contested states. The evidence was compelling and irrefutable. It reminded all of the efforts by the major media organs and the social media platforms to suppress, shutdown and censored the fact and evidenced from ever reaching the light of day.  At the end, the president asked the faithful to present themselves to the Capital peacefully. We are and have always been law abiding and supporters of police, so there was no issue about the right to petition our representatives on the matter of protecting our vote and the results of the 2020 election. WE looked restoration of the vote of millions of legal voters. The violence and mayhem that occurred was not connected in any way to President Trump or the patriots that assembled. As Chairman of the Virginia Tea Party, I condemn lawlessness and violence that occurred at the Capital as I have condemned the violence, looting, arson, assaulting, killing that our nation suffered through all last year by the left-wing hate groups like Antifa and BLM. So we who assembled for this DC Stop the Steal MAGA rally are proud of our participation and involvement and condemned the incidents of violence that distracted from our good faith effort to protect the voting rights of all Americans and to seek restoration of the millions of legal votes that were negated in the voting fraud operations conducted and orchestrated by the democrats. No regrets from the many who attended. I applaud all those peaceful and conscientious patriots that gathered on Wednesday and I am proud to be counted among the faithful who stood that day before our President and our Congress. I was honored to be able to help bring a group from my area and neither they nor I ever regretted that decision to come to DC and make a stand for our Republic. I love our nation and our freedoms. It is a fading hope, but it remains my sincere desire that we Americans can recognize one another as Americans once again. May God Bless and Keep all of you and may He grant our nation cleansing of the evil that was inflicted on our nation and on our elections and make it so that America is made Great again.

yes

In what alternative universe did this happen?

So why did Mr Trump condemn the rioters, concede the election and promise a seamless transition?

Anybody?

Delusional. They're utterly delusional.

mothra wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:47pm:

Delusional. They're utterly delusional.

Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult")

AiA wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:02am:

mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult")

I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better.

If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point.

mothra wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:06am:

AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point.

I am as well. But there is the chance that without their charismatic leader, the movement will lose some of its potency and degrade back to what is once was: garden variety American White Supremacy.

Delusional! LOL!

A truthful account is delusional?

No! Accepting lies as being the truth, that is the definition of delusional.

Its very sad that so many are so discombobulated by being lied to that they can no longer see clearly. 

AiA wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:29am:

mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:06am: AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point. I am as well. But there is the chance that without their charismatic leader, the movement will lose some of its potency and degrade back to what is once was: garden variety American White Supremacy.

White supremacy? Do you live in a sheltered workshop AiA?

At the rally, I had an Hispanic from California one side, and a very tall black man the other. You live in a fantasy AiA, not even your own, grow some balls and grow up. Pathetic!

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:13am:

AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:29am: mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:06am: AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point. I am as well. But there is the chance that without their charismatic leader, the movement will lose some of its potency and degrade back to what is once was: garden variety American White Supremacy. White supremacy? Do you live in a sheltered workshop AiA? At the rally I had a Hispanic from California one side and a very tall black man the other. You live in a fantasy AiA, not even your own, grow some balls and grow up. Pathetic!

Yes, by an large this New Religious Movement is a mixture of White Supremacy and White American Evangelism along with the QAnon tropes and a dash of this and a dash of that. So what if you saw a Hispanic and a Black at a rally? Can you look at what happened in DC and honestly say it wasn't by and large a White Supremacist rally gone bad?

mothra wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:06am:

AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point.

Ah - so there is hope for my WW IV book series yet.... essentially about a new division into civil war of America and a few other things...

AiA wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:16am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 1:13am: AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:29am: mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:06am: AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point. I am as well. But there is the chance that without their charismatic leader, the movement will lose some of its potency and degrade back to what is once was: garden variety American White Supremacy. White supremacy? Do you live in a sheltered workshop AiA? At the rally I had a Hispanic from California one side and a very tall black man the other. You live in a fantasy AiA, not even your own, grow some balls and grow up. Pathetic! Yes, by an large this New Religious Movement is a mixture of White Supremacy and White American Evangelism along with the QAnon tropes and a dash of this and a dash of that. So what if you saw a Hispanic and a Black at a rally? Can you look at what happened in DC and honestly say it wasn't by and large a White Supremacist rally gone bad?

Why 'Supremacist'?  Stretching the bow a bit aren't we?

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:02am:

Delusional! LOL! A truthful account is delusional? No! Accepting lies as being the truth, that is the definition of delusional. Its very sad that so many are so discombobulated by being lied to that they can no longer see clearly.

Truth is you're a terrorist.

Your post reported to the FBI for incitement to riot and insurrection

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:18am:

mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:06am: AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point. Ah - so there is hope for my WW IV book series yet.... essentially about a new division into civil war of America and a few other things...

Do you really believe what you write AiA? could yo really be so out of touch with reality?

What I saw at midday, was what I believe were antifa goons in their telltale black balaclavas, helmets and black backpacks. They were no doubt the ones throwing flash bangs and tear gas canisters.

Truthfully there were 1/2 million happy and decent people exercising peacefully their democratic rights. There were barriers erected on the sides, so we were unable to see the antifa grubs at work at the front.

Pissant domestic terrorist says what?

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:46pm:

So why did Mr Trump condemn the rioters, concede the election and promise a seamless transition? Anybody?

What did you expect him to do, lead the charge into the Congressional House? He's still President you foolish naughty lefty

Did a half a million protesters scale the walls and go on a rampage? No, it was about a hundred numpty

Now what about the months of destruction by BLM and Antifa, anything to say about that?

How much do you get paid for being on here Karnal?, you're here night and day posting counter claims just for the sake of it, what's your end goal, socialist utopia for the United States? Not even Biden will be able to achieve that, nor will any Democrat president after him. The most Biden will be able to do is distribute the vaccine President Trump ordered for the masses. Then if the economy picks up, it won't be Biden's doing, it'll be a natural business cycle which I've dubbed "Roaring Twenties Mk2", it'll start about 2023

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Marla wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 2:31am:

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looting ≠ insurrection (a first for an American president)

AiA wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:44pm:

In what alternative universe did this happen?

Er.... Where the people were actually there,  rather than the universe created Big Tech and Big Media that you inhabit and rejoice in.

Marla wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:43am:

Pissant domestic terrorist says what?

Hi there marla.

You 60-year-old male civil servant with a mediocre job
Stop pretending to be hip
You aren't

Richdude wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

Last Wednesdays Gathering in Washington An American Perspective on the DC Tragedy On Wednesday January 6th 2021, over a half a million Americans gathered to peacefully rally and petition their government to honor and protect our election from fraud and corruption, and to restore the integrity of the 2020 vote. It was a gathering of good and decent people. They came forth as the best of our nation and shouldered the responsibility of petitioning our representatives to protect our elections and ensure that our vote was clean and legal and the election open and transparent. They gathered in hopes of preserving our Republic for all Americans. & etc..... I love our nation and our freedoms. It is a fading hope, but it remains my sincere desire that we Americans can recognize one another as Americans once again. May God Bless and Keep all of you and may He grant our nation cleansing of the evil that was inflicted on our nation and on our elections and make it so that America is made Great again.

Ahh... I love the smell of American crypto-religiosity in the morning. Hilarious!

This is the kind of schtick that keeps us good ole post-colonialists so rightly entertained...

And credit to (mainly southern) Americans who can keep their blood-simple stupidity so focussed to believe it... Like holding in an urgent sh!t while driving on the freeway.

Yes, By gahd and his holy sahn Jesus Krast ah Lorde...  We are hahly entertained.

Keep it up.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:47am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:46pm: So why did Mr Trump condemn the rioters, concede the election and promise a seamless transition? Anybody? What did you expect him to do, lead the charge into the Congressional House? He's still President you foolish naughty lefty Did a half a million protesters scale the walls and go on a rampage? No, it was about a hundred numpty Now what about the months of destruction by BLM and Antifa, anything to say about that? How much do you get paid for being on here Karnal?, you're here night and day posting counter claims just for the sake of it, what's your end goal, socialist utopia for the United States? Not even Biden will be able to achieve that, nor will any Democrat president after him. The most Biden will be able to do is distribute the vaccine President Trump ordered for the masses. Then if the economy picks up, it won't be Biden's doing, it'll be a natural business cycle which I've dubbed "Roaring Twenties Mk2", it'll start about 2023

Yep. Just like the one which started toward the back end of the Obama Administration, when businesses were picking themselves up post-GFC, and for which Trump not only claimed credit, but also ran up a stack more debt trying to "super-charge" it via Corporate and higher earners' tax cuts..

I understand that those Corporate Tax cuts led to major share buy-backs and profits, rather than actual "economy-stimulating" activites, but I guess that's a by-the-by...

Reasons for impeachement

Spot

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Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:41am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 1:18am: mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:06am: AiA wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 12:02am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:47pm: Delusional. They're utterly delusional. Delusional = "New Religious Movement" (what social scientists use instead of "cult") I can't see them going away any time soon. I predict things are going to get a lot worse in America before they get better. If they ever get better. Quite frankly, i'm sceptical at this point. Ah - so there is hope for my WW IV book series yet.... essentially about a new division into civil war of America and a few other things... Do you really believe what you write AiA? could yo really be so out of touch with reality? What I saw at midday, was what I believe were antifa goons in their telltale black balaclavas, helmets and black backpacks. They were no doubt the ones throwing flash bangs and tear gas canisters. Truthfully there were 1/2 million happy and decent people exercising peacefully their democratic rights. There were barriers erected on the sides, so we were unable to see the antifa grubs at work at the front.

Yes, Rich.

One of those happy and decent people even bashed in the skull of a police officer with a fire extinguisher as a means of exercising peacefully their democratic rights.

Marla wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 2:31am:

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Yes.  Yes he is.

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What is going on here with posting on Oz-politic? I want to reply directly to the number 1 OzPol goon Marla, but can't.

However, this for you.

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Fantastic!

Make sure you include all your details, your complaint must include your SS number, drivers license (if you have one) and birth certificate.

Bearing in mind that supplying false info to the FBI is a felony!

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 9:56am:

What is going on here with posting on Oz-politic? I want to reply directly to the number 1 OzPol goon Marla, but can't. However, this for you. ------------------------------------------ Fantastic! Make sure you include all your details, your complaint must include your SS number, drivers license (if you have one) and birth certificate. Bearing in mind that supplying false info to the FBI is a felony!

"This website is designed to allow you to provide tip information to the FBI to assist with its investigative and national security missions as set forth in 28 U.S.C. Chapter 33 and additional federal laws and executive orders.

"You are not required to provide your name or other personal information"

https://tips.fbi.gov/

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 9:56am:

Bearing in mind that supplying false info to the FBI is a felony!

Isn't threatening to lynch the speaker of the house and vice-president also a felony, even if you don't mean it?

Richdude wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

Last Wednesdays Gathering in Washington An American Perspective on the DC Tragedy On Wednesday January 6th 2021, over a half a million Americans gathered to peacefully rally and petition their government to honor and protect our election from fraud and corruption, and to restore the integrity of the 2020 vote. It was a gathering of good and decent people. They came forth as the best of our nation and shouldered the responsibility of petitioning our representatives to protect our elections and ensure that our vote was clean and legal and the election open and transparent. They gathered in hopes of preserving our Republic for all Americans. The over half million rallied as they have done for the last decade. They were of good spirits and positive despite the abuses, threats and violence inflicted on them over the last decade. They are the best of America in so many ways. The DC mayor removed the hundreds of portable bathrooms during the night from around the Washington Monument. The restaurants were shut down and the food truck vendors were banned. She acted in ways that are indefensible for a mayor to treat Americans depraving them of access to bathrooms, food and water. The weather was sub-freezing with a strong north west wind of 20 mph and gusty. The grounds were soggy and the cold crept through the moist grounds through shoes and socks after 6 hours of standing out in the elements, but throughout all of this, the crowd remained in good spirits. President Trump was masterful in presenting the case of massive coordinated voter fraud on an epic historic scale throughout the nation and in particular, in the 6 contested states. The evidence was compelling and irrefutable. It reminded all of the efforts by the major media organs and the social media platforms to suppress, shutdown and censored the fact and evidenced from ever reaching the light of day.  At the end, the president asked the faithful to present themselves to the Capital peacefully. We are and have always been law abiding and supporters of police, so there was no issue about the right to petition our representatives on the matter of protecting our vote and the results of the 2020 election. WE looked restoration of the vote of millions of legal voters. The violence and mayhem that occurred was not connected in any way to President Trump or the patriots that assembled. As Chairman of the Virginia Tea Party, I condemn lawlessness and violence that occurred at the Capital as I have condemned the violence, looting, arson, assaulting, killing that our nation suffered through all last year by the left-wing hate groups like Antifa and BLM. So we who assembled for this DC Stop the Steal MAGA rally are proud of our participation and involvement and condemned the incidents of violence that distracted from our good faith effort to protect the voting rights of all Americans and to seek restoration of the millions of legal votes that were negated in the voting fraud operations conducted and orchestrated by the democrats. No regrets from the many who attended. I applaud all those peaceful and conscientious patriots that gathered on Wednesday and I am proud to be counted among the faithful who stood that day before our President and our Congress. I was honored to be able to help bring a group from my area and neither they nor I ever regretted that decision to come to DC and make a stand for our Republic. I love our nation and our freedoms. It is a fading hope, but it remains my sincere desire that we Americans can recognize one another as Americans once again. May God Bless and Keep all of you and may He grant our nation cleansing of the evil that was inflicted on our nation and on our elections and make it so that America is made Great again.

I was right about you.

It's not even worth posting the actual video footage, from Trumpist accounts, that they recorded themselves, to disprove your utter bullshit.

Stop stealing oxygen.

Quote:

What did you expect him to do, lead the charge into the Congressional House? He's still President you foolish naughty lefty

But of course. One would expect one's prez, as the Commander In Chief, to call on the National Guard to protect the Congress.

You know, like he said he did.

So I'm curious. Two questions:

1. Why do you think he didn't?

2. And why did he say he did?

Quote:

.............. “But it's okay to burn Minneapolis, Kenosha and Atlanta, occupy Seattle and NYC, and destroy Portland?  And the Fortune 500 donated to the cause. Tear down a statue and Nike made it a commercial. Kamala raised bail money for criminals. Joe was silent.   Just stop the hypocrisy.”   .............

Such hypocrisy from the left.
It is amazing how blindfuly ignorant they are to everyone else but their own. They are the the most violent people on earth. They condone violence on a daily basis.

Antifa.
Blm.
Muzzies.
Three of the world's leading terrorist organisations, all graciously accepted by the left.
Extremely sad to see our world go down this path.

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:02am:

Delusional! LOL! A truthful account is delusional? No! Accepting lies as being the truth, that is the definition of delusional. Its very sad that so many are so discombobulated by being lied to that they can no longer see clearly.

Delusional .. the OP, and YOU

mr smith should not be allowed to comment in a thread entitled "a truthful account" ::) ::)

Richdude wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

Last Wednesdays Gathering in Washington An American Perspective on the DC Tragedy On Wednesday January 6th 2021, over a half a million Americans gathered to peacefully rally and petition their government to honor and protect our election from fraud and corruption, and to restore the integrity of the 2020 vote. It was a gathering of good and decent people. They came forth as the best of our nation and shouldered the responsibility of petitioning our representatives to protect our elections and ensure that our vote was clean and legal and the election open and transparent. They gathered in hopes of preserving our Republic for all Americans. The over half million rallied as they have done for the last decade. They were of good spirits and positive despite the abuses, threats and violence inflicted on them over the last decade. They are the best of America in so many ways. The DC mayor removed the hundreds of portable bathrooms during the night from around the Washington Monument. The restaurants were shut down and the food truck vendors were banned. She acted in ways that are indefensible for a mayor to treat Americans depraving them of access to bathrooms, food and water. The weather was sub-freezing with a strong north west wind of 20 mph and gusty. The grounds were soggy and the cold crept through the moist grounds through shoes and socks after 6 hours of standing out in the elements, but throughout all of this, the crowd remained in good spirits. President Trump was masterful in presenting the case of massive coordinated voter fraud on an epic historic scale throughout the nation and in particular, in the 6 contested states. The evidence was compelling and irrefutable. It reminded all of the efforts by the major media organs and the social media platforms to suppress, shutdown and censored the fact and evidenced from ever reaching the light of day.  At the end, the president asked the faithful to present themselves to the Capital peacefully. We are and have always been law abiding and supporters of police, so there was no issue about the right to petition our representatives on the matter of protecting our vote and the results of the 2020 election. WE looked restoration of the vote of millions of legal voters. The violence and mayhem that occurred was not connected in any way to President Trump or the patriots that assembled. As Chairman of the Virginia Tea Party, I condemn lawlessness and violence that occurred at the Capital as I have condemned the violence, looting, arson, assaulting, killing that our nation suffered through all last year by the left-wing hate groups like Antifa and BLM. So we who assembled for this DC Stop the Steal MAGA rally are proud of our participation and involvement and condemned the incidents of violence that distracted from our good faith effort to protect the voting rights of all Americans and to seek restoration of the millions of legal votes that were negated in the voting fraud operations conducted and orchestrated by the democrats. No regrets from the many who attended. I applaud all those peaceful and conscientious patriots that gathered on Wednesday and I am proud to be counted among the faithful who stood that day before our President and our Congress. I was honored to be able to help bring a group from my area and neither they nor I ever regretted that decision to come to DC and make a stand for our Republic. I love our nation and our freedoms. It is a fading hope, but it remains my sincere desire that we Americans can recognize one another as Americans once again. May God Bless and Keep all of you and may He grant our nation cleansing of the evil that was inflicted on our nation and on our elections and make it so that America is made Great again.

Complete bullshit....Post this evidence then dickhead....I am waiting???

::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 3:33pm:

mr smith should not be allowed to comment in a thread entitled "a truthful account" ::) ::)

But it's fine for Rich to, with his entire OP being deliberately full of lies and factually incorrect?

Scoot, YOU LOST.

GET OVER IT.

I'm sure, unlike Rich, are able to.  Trump list, there was no fraud, his butthurt ego incited a terrorist attack on the country resulting in the death of people and the attack on the very democracy that is the foundation of the entire nation, and here you are posting in support of it?

I know Rich isn't worth the wear and tear on a set of brake pads should he wonder out in the middle of the road, yelling at people telling him he's in danger that they're lying and spreading fake news, but you too?

wrote on :


Can you actually QUOTE Trump inciting a terrorist attack or violence?


Clips or tweets proving these assertions are mysteriously missing from every thread discussing this, every news item reporting it.

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

wrote on : Can you actually QUOTE Trump inciting a terrorist attack or violence? Clips or tweets proving these assertions are mysteriously missing from every thread discussing this, every news item reporting it.

Stochastic Terrorism.

Frank probably doesn't know how to research a simple phrase like stochastic terrorism, so I guess I'll help him out.

What is stochastic terrorism?

The idea is that someone who is a leader or who has a voice in the media puts out messages that there’s a reasonable certainty someone will act on. You have no idea who that person is, but someone, somewhere, will act on those ideas.

What are your thoughts on Trump’s comments?

It’s his whole career as a politician and as a media figure. He says things that are clearly White nationalist enthusiast, and [at a May rally], when someone talked about killing immigrants, he laughed. He talked about using Second Amendment rights against Hillary Clinton in 2016. He is inciting violence by talking about things in a way that he knows — or he should know — that someone among the people listening is going to do something about this.

There you go Frank: you actually learnt something today.

How Trump incites violence with stochastic terrorism

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 3:33pm:

mr smith should not be allowed to comment in a thread entitled "a truthful account" ::) ::)

says the guy who post after post, topic after topic, says copy the same old spiels of bullshit over and over again thinking it's got any relevance to reality:D :D

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

Clips or tweets proving these assertions

:D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 4:40pm: Clips or tweets proving these assertions :D :D :D

Take it easy on Frank.

He learnt a new word today, and he's still trying to process it.

https://media.tenor.com/images/01447096dc4e5137e54abe5ae7e9d313/tenor.gif

Stochastic Terrorism

N. Acts of violence by random extremists, triggered by political demagoguery.

When President Trump tweeted a video of himself body-slamming the CNN logo in 2017, most ­people took it as a stupid joke. For Cesar Sayoc, it may have been a call to arms: Last October the avowed Trump fan allegedly mailed a pipe bomb to CNN headquarters.

No one told Sayoc to do it, but the fact that it happened was really no surprise. In 2011, after the shooting of US representative Gabby Giffords, a Daily Kos blog warned of a new threat the writer called stochastic terrorism: the use of mass media to incite attacks by random nut jobs—acts that are “statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.” The writer had in mind right-wing radio and TV agitators, but in 2016, Rolling Stone accused then-candidate Trump of using the same playbook when he joked that “Second Amendment people” might “do” something if Hillary Clinton won the election.

Of course, Trump’s people later said he meant they might … “vote.” That’s how it works: Stochastic terrorism lets bullies operate in the open with full deniability, since the random element erases any provable causation.

Tellingly, the word stochastic comes from the Greek stochastikos, meaning “proceeding by guesswork” and “skillful in aiming.” Both are apt here. It takes a master demagogue to weaponize unstable individuals and aim them at political enemies.

In the early hours of November 4th, the Democrats ensured that Donald Trump would no longer be president. This week they're ensuring that he will not get to be a former president: They're determined to make him the most ex ex-president in history, the one who doesn't get invited with Carter and Bush et al to the grand state occasions. I would be surprised if he'll get a Secret Service detail - and even more surprised if Trump felt he could actually trust them.

Can the Dems pull that off? Well, they seem pretty determined - and they're up against a party that, as Lindsey Graham announced on the Senate floor, will no longer fight his corner.

Ultimately, the message isn't intended for the President, but for the American people: Trump - or anything like him - is never gonna happen again; you've got a choice between a radical transformative Democrat Party, and a weak-tea Chamber of Commerce cheap-labor go-along-to-get-along Republican Party, and that's all you're gonna get, now and forever. Seventy-four million voters have been designated as "domestic terrorists" in waiting, and are effectively on probation.

https://www.steynonline.com/10922/live-around-the-planet-friday-january-8th

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 5:39pm:

In the early hours of November 4th, the Democrats ensured that Donald Trump would no longer be president. This week they're ensuring that he will not get to be a former president: They're determined to make him the most ex ex-president in history, the one who doesn't get invited with Carter and Bush et al to the grand state occasions. I would be surprised if he'll get a Secret Service detail - and even more surprised if Trump felt he could actually trust them. Can the Dems pull that off? Well, they seem pretty determined - and they're up against a party that, as Lindsey Graham announced on the Senate floor, will no longer fight his corner. Ultimately, the message isn't intended for the President, but for the American people: Trump - or anything like him - is never gonna happen again; you've got a choice between a radical transformative Democrat Party, and a weak-tea Chamber of Commerce cheap-labor go-along-to-get-along Republican Party, and that's all you're gonna get, now and forever. Seventy-four million voters have been designated as "domestic terrorists" in waiting, and are effectively on probation. https://www.steynonline.com/10922/live-around-the-planet-friday-january-8th

Indeed. And they're supported by your Dear Leader's own conga line of suckholes.

How does it feel?

Marla wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 1:32am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 1:02am: Delusional! LOL! A truthful account is delusional? No! Accepting lies as being the truth, that is the definition of delusional. Its very sad that so many are so discombobulated by being lied to that they can no longer see clearly.  Truth is you're a terrorist. Your post reported to the FBI for incitement to riot and insurrection

lol, that's it, let the hate shine forth. This is progress.

Words from the wicked witch from the west

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What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem?

Baron this is no doubt Nancy's hard drive that was stolen last Wednesday. No wonder less coherent than usual, what a bust.

In response to Phil's request for evidence that the 1/2 million protesters were peaceful. I was there and I saw everything apart what happened in the front of the building. Everyone I saw were happy decent and RESPONSIBLE folk. Even though some were throwing tear gas canisters and flash bangs. I saw first hand how the media and politicians stage and manipulate events like this. Disgusting!

Are you calling me a liar?

No one could ever call you a liar, Rich. It's just that whatever you say, the opposite it true. That's not a lie, right?

It's a statistical aberration.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 9:56am: Bearing in mind that supplying false info to the FBI is a felony! Isn't threatening to lynch the speaker of the house and vice-president also a felony, even if you don't mean it?

Excuse me Nil!

Who did that?

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 11:39pm:

What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem? Baron this is no doubt Nancy's hard drive that was stolen last Wednesday. No wonder less coherent than usual, what a bust. In response to Phil's request for evidence that the 1/2 million protesters were peaceful. I was there and I saw everything apart what happened in the front of the building. Everyone I saw were happy decent and RESPONSIBLE folk. Even though some were throwing tear gas canisters and flash bangs. I saw first hand how the media and politicians stage and manipulate events like this. Disgusting! Are you calling me a liar?

Yes.   Yes I am.

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 11:39pm:

What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem? Baron this is no doubt Nancy's hard drive that was stolen last Wednesday. No wonder less coherent than usual, what a bust. In response to Phil's request for evidence that the 1/2 million protesters were peaceful. I was there and I saw everything apart what happened in the front of the building. Everyone I saw were happy decent and RESPONSIBLE folk. Even though some were throwing tear gas canisters and flash bangs. I saw first hand how the media and politicians stage and manipulate events like this. Disgusting! Are you calling me a liar?

Evidence of election fraud you dickhead....Claiming the mob that attacked the White House were peaceful makes you look even more stupid than you already are....Everything in Trump world is staged and fake mate!!!

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The FBI have confirmed what I've been saying for the last few days.

i.e. the Trump terrorists are planning multiple armed attacks on January 17.

"An FBI memo warns armed protests are being planned for later this week in Washington DC and 50 other US state capitals, according to US media.

"The National Parks Service also announced the Washington Monument will also be closed to the public until after Joe Biden's inauguration because of threats of violence."

Donald Trump's second impeachment looms as FBI warns more armed protests to come

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 9:54pm:

Words from the wicked witch from the west

You do know that letter is a fake, right?

https://factcheck.afp.com/fake-nancy-pelosi-letter-circulates-online


Quote:

The letter appears in January 2021 posts on Facebook and on Twitter

Facebook and Twitter again. Say no more.  ::)

More links:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/11/viral-image/no-nancy-pelosi-didnt-send-letter-ted-wheeler/

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pelosi-letter-wheeler-fabri/fact-check-letter-from-nancy-pelosi-to-portland-mayor-is-fabricated-idUSKBN29G2GH

Carl D wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 7:56am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 9:54pm: Words from the wicked witch from the west You do know that letter is a fake, right? https://factcheck.afp.com/fake-nancy-pelosi-letter-circulates-online Quote: The letter appears in January 2021 posts on Facebook and on Twitter Facebook and Twitter again. Say no more.  ::) More links: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/11/viral-image/no-nancy-pelosi-didnt-send-letter-ted-wheeler/ https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pelosi-letter-wheeler-fabri/fact-check-letter-from-nancy-pelosi-to-portland-mayor-is-fabricated-idUSKBN29G2GH

Hasn't stopped the bloke thus far...why should it now?  ::)

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 11:39pm:

What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem? Baron this is no doubt Nancy's hard drive that was stolen last Wednesday. No wonder less coherent than usual, what a bust. In response to Phil's request for evidence that the 1/2 million protesters were peaceful. I was there and I saw everything apart what happened in the front of the building. Everyone I saw were happy decent and RESPONSIBLE folk. Even though some were throwing tear gas canisters and flash bangs. I saw first hand how the media and politicians stage and manipulate events like this. Disgusting! Are you calling me a liar?

You were there.....whoop dee do.
The MSM told me different. They don't manipulate and lie, just ask them.
They're right, you're wrong.


It's the fascist way of the left  ;D ;D ;D

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 11:39pm:

What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem?

You've been shadow banned, quick, start crying and demanding the forum owner and mods be executed because of your trampled 1st amendment rights!


Quote:

Are you calling me a liar?

Yes, pants on fire.

A dishonest bastard posting anything you can find that supports your opinions as truth and fact and just ignoring everything that doesn't support you as fake and lies.

You have zero claims to truth and everything you say should be considered untrue unless you can post evidence to the contrary, which you never ever can.

You have no credibility and nobody should trust a single thing you say.

Liar.

Richdude wrote on Jan 11^th, 2021 at 11:39pm:

What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem? Baron this is no doubt Nancy's hard drive that was stolen last Wednesday. No wonder less coherent than usual, what a bust. In response to Phil's request for evidence that the 1/2 million protesters were peaceful. I was there and I saw everything apart what happened in the front of the building. Everyone I saw were happy decent and RESPONSIBLE folk. Even though some were throwing tear gas canisters and flash bangs. I saw first hand how the media and politicians stage and manipulate events like this. Disgusting! Are you calling me a liar?

The timeline of this mostly peaceful protest where nothing was burnt down no American flags were set on fire shows it started before Trump started talking at his rally and continued while he was still talking which shows nothing he said there resulted in this.

How many Trump supporters would take a knee BLM style is it zero zip zilch?

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There aren't many straws to clutch huh Baron...

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 12^th, 2021 at 9:35am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 11:39pm: What's going on here with this Forum? Won't let me reply to a poster, is anyone else having this problem? You've been shadow banned, quick, start crying and demanding the forum owner and mods be executed because of your trampled 1st amendment rights! Quote: Are you calling me a liar? Yes, pants on fire. A dishonest bastard posting anything you can find that supports your opinions as truth and fact and just ignoring everything that doesn't support you as fake and lies. You have zero claims to truth and everything you say should be considered untrue unless you can post evidence to the contrary, which you never ever can. You have no credibility and nobody should trust a single thing you say. Liar.

Agreed....These MAGA dickheads post outright lies and wonder why they are never believed....Richdunce isn't even that smart which explains why he does not care about being labelled a liar....He is a true lying Trumpard who has no credibility what so ever!!!

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Ever thought of putting a coherent argument together, or as we guess, that is beyond your capabilities.

And no, I am not a liar, just too close to the target for the crazies.

Quote:

Now that's the first honest think Rich has said yet.

In an ironic turn of events US Capitol rioters could face long jail terms because of Trump's own executive order originally created to target and punish BLM.

They are liable to be punished with up to 10 years prison for "injury of federal property" under the order Trump signed during the  BLM protests in July 2020.

"When Congress becomes despotic, it's the right, nay the duty, of citizens to change that Congress by whatever means at their disposal" - Founding Fathers

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2021 at 11:49pm:

"When Congress becomes despotic, it's the right, nay the duty, of citizens to change that Congress by whatever means at their disposal" - Founding Fathers

How is following the constitution and certifying the states college votes being despotic?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2021 at 11:49pm:

"When Congress becomes despotic, it's the right, nay the duty, of citizens to change that Congress by whatever means at their disposal" - Founding Fathers

However Congress was just doing what it was democratically elected to do when it was descended upon by a lawless mob of President Trump supporters....Or has that fact escaped you???

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How can there be a debate if the courts won't hear the thousands of affidavits alleging vote rigging, or the host of abnormalities and vote switching? And then the media censor all questioning?

Why won't an audit be allowed to go ahead? What are they afraid of? If Joe really did receive more votes than any other Presidential candidate in history, why not?

Why? Cause Trump won easily and those that disagree are either ignorant, no common sense, or support a massive crime. I.E. Criminals!

Do these criminals expect the American people to pay their taxes after what is really, a coup?

Will I be fully banned now for speaking the truth?

Richdude wrote on Jan 13^th, 2021 at 11:07pm:

wrote on : Ever thought of putting a coherent argument together, or as we guess, that is beyond your capabilities. And no, I am not a liar, just too close to the target for the crazies.

You are a proven liar and a complete waste of time....Everything you post is crap mate!!!

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Stop proving my point!

Why did the Democrat states burn their election ballots? That's a felony, Ill give you a tip, could it be to prevent a thorough audit?

Watya thoink moit?

Richdude wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 12:23am:

How can there be a debate if the courts won't hear the thousands of affidavits alleging vote rigging, or the host of abnormalities and vote switching? And then the media censor all questioning? Why won't an audit be allowed to go ahead? What are they afraid of? If Joe really did receive more votes than any other Presidential candidate in history, why not? Why? Cause Trump won easily and those that disagree are either ignorant, no common sense, or support a massive crime. I.E. Criminals! Do these criminals expect the American people to pay their taxes after what is really, a coup? Will I be fully banned now for speaking the truth?

There are certainly isolated cases where judges did not consider the merits of the Trump campaign’s arguments. Specifically, you can point to the US Supreme Court.

Otherwise, even when his campaign’s lawsuits have been rejected for technical reasons – such as a lack of standing, or the laches doctrine – The vast majority of judges, both Democrat and Republican, have gone out of their way to address the merits of its arguments as well.

What that means is whilst they've refused to hear the matter they have reviewed and considered the arguments of the Trump campaign and dismissed it.

On multiple occasions, Mr Trump’s lawyers have been given the opportunity to present their much-hyped evidence in court, and have failed to do so.

When they have offered purported evidence of fraud, such as in Nevada and Michigan, judges have invariably found it unconvincing.

In the case of the Supreme Court, Judges Alito and Thomas held the view that the case should have been heard but they would still have denied Texas' motion.

Not only were white police officers taking down barricades, opening doors, giving directions and posing for selfies with the *rioters,* members of Congress too these scum on "reconnaissance tours" the day before. Now we know why there were able to find secret offices and tunnels so quickly and easily.



Quote:

In a live webcast Tuesday evening, Rep. Mikie Sherrill, D-11, made a startling claim that some members of Congress led groups of people through the Capitol Building on a "reconnaissance" tour one day before the riot that laid a deadly siege on the government's legislative branch. During the Facebook Live, Sherrill, a Montclair resident, addressed her constituents to explain why she voted for a resolution to implore Vice President Mike Pence to remove President Donald Trump from office by invoking the 25th Amendment, and, after that measures foreseen failure, why she intends to support an article of impeachment against Trump for "incitement of insurrection." ...

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35201818/members-of-congress-suggest-mob-had-inside-help/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_esq&utm_medium=email&date=011321&utm_campaign=nl22579322

Here's a truthful account:

Impeached twice.

Lost the popular vote twice.

Lost the White House after one term.

Lost the House for the Republicans.

Lost the Senate for the Republicans.

WINNING!

Richdude wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 12:23am:

How can there be a debate if the courts won't hear the thousands of affidavits alleging vote rigging, or the host of abnormalities and vote switching? And then the media censor all questioning?

The affidavits were never submitted as evidence in the cases, go look it up.

They never alleged fraud in the courts because doing so would have the lawyers disbarred due to there being no evidence to support it.

Richdude wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 12:34am:

wrote on : Stop proving my point! Why did the Democrat states burn their election ballots? That's a felony, Ill give you a tip, could it be to prevent a thorough audit? Watya thoink moit?

But that's another of your lies.

"Democrat states" didn't burn their ballots.

Unless you made a typo and forgot to include the word "sample", something that was at the time being investigated.

AiA wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:31am:

Not only were white police officers taking down barricades, opening doors, giving directions and posing for selfies with the *rioters,* members of Congress too these scum on "reconnaissance tours" the day before. Now we know why there were able to find secret offices and tunnels so quickly and easily.

No doubt the Pentagon has vetted the National Guard troops who will be guarding the Capitol during Biden's inauguration.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:23am:

AiA wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:31am: Not only were white police officers taking down barricades, opening doors, giving directions and posing for selfies with the *rioters,* members of Congress too these scum on "reconnaissance tours" the day before. Now we know why there were able to find secret offices and tunnels so quickly and easily. No doubt the Pentagon has vetted the National Guard troops who will be guarding the Capitol during Biden's inauguration.

Guess they will be!

FBI vets thousands of National Guard troops heading to Washington DC amid fears of an insider attack

US defence officials say they are worried about an insider attack or other threat from service members involved in securing President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration, prompting the FBI to vet all of the 25,000 National Guard troops coming into Washington for the event.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/joe-biden-inaugration-fbi-vets-national-guard-insider-attack/13067114

Lies, lies, lies.................

Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies?

Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy?

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Richdude wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 12:57am:

Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy?

You are a dickhead mate!!!

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https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-debunking-italy-gate/fact-check-evidence-disproves-claims-of-italian-conspiracy-to-meddle-in-us-election-idUSKBN29K2N8

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/08/fact-check-italygate-claims-electoral-fraud-rome-baseless/6567335002/

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:14am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 12:57am: Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy? You are a dickhead mate!!!

It shows just how bad the mental health system is in the US.

President Biden (with his lovely wife Doctor Jill Biden) has a big job in front of him.

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you forget dear he has 80 yr old  Nancy :) :)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:18am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:14am: Richdude wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 12:57am: Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy? You are a dickhead mate!!! It shows just how bad the mental health system is in the US. President Biden (with his lovely wife Doctor Jill Biden) has a big job in front of him.

Reuters!!  The media conglomerate who called an election victory for Joe before all the votes had been counted?

USA Today!! Give me a break, as I said, you are clueless.

Richdude wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:18am: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:14am: Richdude wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 12:57am: Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy? You are a dickhead mate!!! It shows just how bad the mental health system is in the US. President Biden (with his lovely wife Doctor Jill Biden) has a big job in front of him. Reuters!!  The media conglomerate who called an election victory for Joe before all the votes had been counted? USA Today!! Give me a break, as I said, you are clueless.

There is help available to you.

https://www.mhanational.org/get-involved/contact-us

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I wouldn't pay you a cent for any help I need on my properties, you useless lying turd from turdville!

What a crap OP

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:32pm:

What a crap OP

I must say, I've never seen a bigger pile of bullshit.

Pretty much every word is a demonstrable lie.

Richdude wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 12:57am:

Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy?

Question:

Why have you disappeared from the thread where i asked you - pointedly - about the "around the world in 80 conspiracy theories" thing?

Again, you've posted rubbish about miscounted votes in the U.S (debunked). You've posted rubbish about Dominion and Hugo Chavez rorting the election (also debunked). You posted about Servers being seized in Germany from Syctl(sp) and being brought back to the U.S to be tendered as evidence. Where are they?

Then there was something about Spain (I think).

Now Italy.

Where next?

Maybe there was some shady stuff going on at Pine Gap?

Just how many conspiracies do you have "tucked away" to explain Trump getting beaten (and handily, just quietly)?

The silence of the Trump sheep is coming after January 20.

https://i.imgflip.com/3d6b25.jpg

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

The silence of the Trump sheep is coming after January 20.

If only that were true.

The people in the US who need a Trump are generations old and hundreds of years settled.

A generation or two ago, it was Wallace. Now it's Trump.

They're not going anywhere.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:18am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:14am: Richdude wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 12:57am: Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy? You are a dickhead mate!!! It shows just how bad the mental health system is in the US. President Biden (with his lovely wife Doctor Jill Biden) has a big job in front of him.

How bush league! Just call me Captain!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:18am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:14am: Richdude wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 12:57am: Lies, lies, lies................. Why is social media banning anyone questioning the result of the election? Why are battleground states shredding their ballots? That's a felony. Why is there a total ban in all media of what's happening in Italy regarding US election meddling? Why wasn't there been an audit as demanded by Trump and his allies? Why is this man's affidavit being covered-up in the US, it has caused an uproar in Italy? You are a dickhead mate!!! It shows just how bad the mental health system is in the US. President Biden (with his lovely wife Doctor Jill Biden) has a big job in front of him.

Wow! Such eloquence!

As I said, you're clueless Phill!

Source, WND.

But even beyond that, the ascendent Left is now wantonly banning, and even criminalizing, free speech in shocking a way that has never occurred before at any time in America’s history. In fact, some commentators, like the New York Post’s Miranda Devine, are comparing the Left’s current level of hysteria to that surrounding the Salem witch trials.

Just in the last few days:

* A former Facebook executive called for conservative TV news outlets, including OANN and Newsmax, to be de-platformed by telecom giants including Comcast, AT&T and Verizon. Recently, CNN called for the end to Fox News.

* Harvard students are demanding that the university revoke diplomas from Trump supporters. Simon & Schuster broke its contract with Sen. Josh Hawley to publish his book just 4 months before its planned release. Regular citizens who were among the 300,000 attending the Jan. 6 Trump rally – people who never went anywhere near the Capitol – are now losing their jobs. It’s happening all over the country.

* After a Democratic National Committee official called for plans to “deprogram” the 75 million Americans who voted to re-elect Donald Trump – yes, that’s the word he used, deprogram, just like in hardcore communist nations – Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has picked up the ball, demanding federal funding to “deradicalize” Trump supporters.

* Twitter executives can be seen on newly released video strategizing how they’re shutting down discussion of election fraud, just as Facebook has eliminated “Stop the Steal” pages. On and on it goes.

But wait. What about Truth? Does that matter anymore?

The truth is, there WAS massive election fraud. Everybody reading these words watched the evidence in real time as it surfaced over the course of two months. The Texas election-fraud lawsuit, joined by 17 other states, laid out clear-cut violations of the Constitution by Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The truth is, the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol WAS preplanned days in advance, and therefore was NOT caused by Trump’s speech – which annihilates the Democrats’ entire impeachment case against him.

The truth is, the riot WAS instigated, at least in part, by some Antifa-anarchist types, according to the FBI, contrary to everything we were told for days by Big Media and Big Tech.

Google, Facebook, Twitter and others are finally making their big move for all-out, undisguised, totalitarian control of what you are allowed to read, watch, hear – and therefore think.

For Twitter to permanently ban the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump – who was recently nominated multiple times for a Nobel Peace Prize for his Mideast peace deals, and who just last month an annual Gallup survey of Americans revealed to be the “most admired man in the world” – makes it pretty clear that Big Tech is now exercising totalitarian control.

Social media giants are purging conservatives from the internet as fast as possible. Hence, not only did Twitter permanently ban Trump, but also many of his most prominent supporters and advisers, like attorney Sidney Powell and Gen. Michael Flynn. And the list grows daily.

No sooner did prominent conservatives announce they were quitting Twitter in favor of free-speech social media alternatives like Parler, than the Tech Giants set out to kill their competitors in the cradle. In fact, Parler CEO John Matze has had to flee with his family and go into hiding, in face of death threats.

How can America survive such maniacal attacks on free speech, on a free press, on the Constitution, on TRUTH?
Courtesy WND

So, I've made my point, I think you'll agree. No?

I have no skin in the game apart from supporting the Constitution, a free press and fair elections. My opponents here obviously do not.

If America goes under, so do you.

richdude -  ' .............


Source, WND.

But even beyond that, the ascendent Left is now wantonly banning, and even criminalizing, free speech in shocking a way that has never occurred before at any time in America’s history. In fact, some commentators, like the New York Post’s Miranda Devine, are comparing the Left’s current level of hysteria to that surrounding the Salem witch trials.

Just in the last few days:

* A former Facebook executive called for conservative TV news outlets, including OANN and Newsmax, to be de-platformed by telecom giants including Comcast, AT&T and Verizon. Recently, CNN called for the end to Fox News.

* Harvard students are demanding that the university revoke diplomas from Trump supporters. Simon & Schuster broke its contract with Sen. Josh Hawley to publish his book just 4 months before its planned release. Regular citizens who were among the 300,000 attending the Jan. 6 Trump rally – people who never went anywhere near the Capitol – are now losing their jobs. It’s happening all over the country.



* After a Democratic National Committee official called for plans to “deprogram” the 75 million Americans who voted to re-elect Donald Trump – yes, that’s the word he used, deprogram, just like in hardcore communist nations – Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has picked up the ball, demanding federal funding to “deradicalize” Trump supporters.

* Twitter executives can be seen on newly released video strategizing how they’re shutting down discussion of election fraud, just as Facebook has eliminated “Stop the Steal” pages. On and on it goes.

But wait. What about Truth? Does that matter anymore?

The truth is, there WAS massive election fraud. Everybody reading these words watched the evidence in real time as it surfaced over the course of two months. The Texas election-fraud lawsuit, joined by 17 other states, laid out clear-cut violations of the Constitution by Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The truth is, the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol WAS preplanned days in advance, and therefore was NOT caused by Trump’s speech – which annihilates the Democrats’ entire impeachment case against him.

The truth is, the riot WAS instigated, at least in part, by some Antifa-anarchist types, according to the FBI, contrary to everything we were told for days by Big Media and Big Tech.



Google, Facebook, Twitter and others are finally making their big move for all-out, undisguised, totalitarian control of what you are allowed to read, watch, hear – and therefore think.

For Twitter to permanently ban the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump – who was recently nominated multiple times for a Nobel Peace Prize for his Mideast peace deals, and who just last month an annual Gallup survey of Americans revealed to be the “most admired man in the world” – makes it pretty clear that Big Tech is now exercising totalitarian control.

Social media giants are purging conservatives from the internet as fast as possible. Hence, not only did Twitter permanently ban Trump, but also many of his most prominent supporters and advisers, like attorney Sidney Powell and Gen. Michael Flynn. And the list grows daily.

No sooner did prominent conservatives announce they were quitting Twitter in favor of free-speech social media alternatives like Parler, than the Tech Giants set out to kill their competitors in the cradle. In fact, Parler CEO John Matze has had to flee with his family and go into hiding, in face of death threats.

How can America survive such maniacal attacks on free speech, on a free press, on the Constitution, on TRUTH?
Courtesy WND  ....... '





true

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harvard-degrees-trump/

Spot

Supporting the wrong candidate?  Send 'em to the economic gulag by cutting off their income.... That'll fix 'em!

A continuation of Civil War by other means...... Comrades... everyone must adhere to the Party rules as laid down by Big Brother... this is freedom and a right to free choice!!

Shades of the Never-Ending Civil War Between People and Government as laid down by Herr Dockteur Professor Colonel Grappler some years ago.  A simple thesis really - governments are forever striving to impose their idea of proper control and behaviour on the ordinary folk - the Truly Woke ordinary folk constantly reject this violent and abusive approach and demand that governments instead sere their people as they are constituted to do.

Every group that grabs the reins of control gets the idea into its tiny head that it has the Entitlement™ to do as it chooses in pursuit of its idea of what constitutes an orderly and peaceful society.... even when it means war, destruction, death, impoverishment, and near-starvation or real starvation for many .....

What a terrible choice it is in reality - this enforced choice between Australian Right and Australian Left these days.... neither of which give one hoot about the ordinary voting populace as long as their agenda and their insiders get the sweet run for life.  Look what's been happening for four decades now to men, their sons and their grand-sons to favour specified other groups... look what's been happening now for four decades or more to the common folk desirous of a simple life and a fair return for their efforts....


“The television (insert business/government) business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs.  There is also a negative side…” 

- Dr Hunter S Thompson

'You're not allowed to change this message!" 

Jeez - all I wanted to do was correct 'Dockteur" to 'Dokteur'.... freed?  FREED????  What are you doing??

Spot!

Snopes is a propanda site, it pretends to check all media, it doesn't, sticking instead to the official narrative.

Richdude wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 1:26am:

If America goes under, so do you.

That's true.

Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm.

Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy.

Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors.

It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:15am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 1:26am: If America goes under, so do you. That's true. Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm. Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy. Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors. It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever.

And you lefty farrkwits scream racism all the time.  ;D
Your double standards are incredible.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:35am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 7:15am: Richdude wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 1:26am: If America goes under, so do you. That's true. Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm. Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy. Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors. It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever. And you lefty farrkwits scream racism all the time.  ;D Your double standards are incredible.

I’m a ‘lefty’? A politico-cultural reference?

'White trash' is a sub-cultural reference.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:35am:

[quote author=helian link=1610285111/96#96 date=1611090913][quote author=Richdude link=1610285111/90#90 date=1611069964] If America goes under, so do you.

That's true.

Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm.

OMG! Where do I begin? Or do I bother with this ...... whatever?

I suggest we just leave this one alone.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:15am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 1:26am: If America goes under, so do you. That's true. Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm. Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy. Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors. It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever.

You only say that because you dont like that they call out the crap you post

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 5:41am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 7:15am: Richdude wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 1:26am: If America goes under, so do you. That's true. Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm. Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy. Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors. It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever. You only say that because you dont like that they call out the crap you post Spot

Do they?

Opinion: Election a fraud and Biden not legit

You knew you couldn’t win a fair fight so you cheated and don’t talk to me about the Republicans and judges who agreed with you. They are all part of the swamp and hate Trump also because he tried to undo their Washington “good ol’boy” fraternity. Many judges have acknowledged that they didn’t want to get involved out of fear for their lives and their families lives.
In Georgia, illegal ballots were cast by, or in the name of: more than 2,500 felons; 66,247 underage voters; 2,423 unregistered voters; 4,926 individuals who had failed to register prior to the state’s voter-registration deadline; 395 individuals who voted in two states; 20,311 voters who had moved out of state and thus were no longer eligible to vote in Georgia; 40,279 people who had moved across county lines in Georgia without re-registering in their new county of residence; 30,000 to 40,000 people whose absentee ballots lacked a valid, verifiable signature; and at least 1,043 individuals whose voter registrations claimed postal facilities as their home address and disguised their box numbers as “apartment” numbers.
Almost all of the people in this latter category were absentee voters who cast their ballots early. Nine individuals at various recount sites in Georgia issued sworn affidavits stating that they had seen large numbers of uncreased mail-in ballots – meaning that the ballots had not been folded and mailed in an envelope as required by law - almost all cast for Biden.
A sworn affidavit claims that election workers in Pennsylvania were instructed to assign ballots without names to random people across the state. Consequently, thousands of Pittsburgh residents who showed up to vote in person were told that, according to o Whistleblower Jesse Morgan, who worked as a truck driver for a subcontractor with the USPS, says that on Oct. 21 he drove a truck filled with potentially upward of 288,000 ballots from Bethpage, New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, thereby illegally transporting ballots across state lines.
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Affidavits by postal workers in three Pennsylvania cities have testified that various post offices illegally backdated ballots and ordered that Trump mail be placed in the “Undeliverable Bulk Business Mail” bin while emphasizing that Biden mail should be delivered on time.
According to one affidavit, a Michigan election supervisor violated existing state law by instructing election workers at in-person polling places not to request photo identification from voters. Affidavits filed in Michigan claim that poll workers were instructed to ignore signature mismatches, backdate late-arriving ballots (to make it appear that they had arrived before the statutory deadline), and process ballots of questionable validity.
In 18 sworn affidavits in Michigan, the witnesses claimed that election officials had counted the ballots of people whose names were not in the voter file, and that those names were added into the system with the birth date of Jan. 1, 1900.
One of these 18 affiants was Robert Cushman, who said in his testimony: “When I asked about this impossibility of each ballot having the same birthday occurring in 1900, I was told that was the instruction that came down from the Wayne County Clerk’s office.”
Approximately 9,500 Michigan mail-in ballots were purportedly submitted by voters whose names and birth dates matched those in the death records of the Social Security Death Index. In addition, nearly 2,000 more ballots were cast in the names of voters who claimed to be aged 100+ but were not listed in public records as living individuals.
In Nevada, 42,284 people are on record as having voted twice in 2020. Moreover, ballots were cast in the names of approximately 20,000 individuals without a Nevada mailing address; 2,468 people who had moved to another state and thus were ineligible to vote in Nevada; 1,500 people who were dead; almost 4,000 non-citizens; and nearly 30,000 people who falsely listed non-residential, vacant, or non-existent addresses as their home addresses
IT and cyber-security specialist Melissa Carone, who on Nov. 3 and 4 worked as a contractor for Dominion Voting Systems - the company that provided the voting machines in 66 of Michigan’s 83 counties in 2020 told a Michigan Senate Oversight Committee hearing: “What I witnessed at the TDS Center (where votes were being counted) was complete fraud. The whole 27 hours I was there. There were batches of ballots being ran through the tabulating machines numerous times, being counted eight to 10 times, I watched this with my own eyes. I was there to assist with IT.”
Adding that she was “under the impression 100 percent that all of these workers were in on this,” Carone claimed: “There was not a single ballot that the whole night, the whole 27 hours that I was there, that was for Donald Trump, not one.”
https://www.gastongazette.com/story/opinion/columns/2021/01/27/opinion-election-fraud-and-biden-not-legit/4280773001/

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 1:32am:

But wait. What about Truth? Does that matter anymore? The truth is, there WAS massive election fraud.

Nope.


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Frank wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

Opinion: Election a fraud and Biden not legit You knew you couldn’t win a fair fight so you cheated and don’t talk to me about the Republicans and judges who agreed with you. They are all part of the swamp and hate Trump also because he tried to undo their Washington “good ol’boy” fraternity. Many judges have acknowledged that they didn’t want to get involved out of fear for their lives and their families lives. In Georgia, illegal ballots were cast by, or in the name of: more than 2,500 felons; 66,247 underage voters; 2,423 unregistered voters; 4,926 individuals who had failed to register prior to the state’s voter-registration deadline; 395 individuals who voted in two states; 20,311 voters who had moved out of state and thus were no longer eligible to vote in Georgia; 40,279 people who had moved across county lines in Georgia without re-registering in their new county of residence; 30,000 to 40,000 people whose absentee ballots lacked a valid, verifiable signature; and at least 1,043 individuals whose voter registrations claimed postal facilities as their home address and disguised their box numbers as “apartment” numbers. Almost all of the people in this latter category were absentee voters who cast their ballots early. Nine individuals at various recount sites in Georgia issued sworn affidavits stating that they had seen large numbers of uncreased mail-in ballots – meaning that the ballots had not been folded and mailed in an envelope as required by law - almost all cast for Biden. A sworn affidavit claims that election workers in Pennsylvania were instructed to assign ballots without names to random people across the state. Consequently, thousands of Pittsburgh residents who showed up to vote in person were told that, according to o Whistleblower Jesse Morgan, who worked as a truck driver for a subcontractor with the USPS, says that on Oct. 21 he drove a truck filled with potentially upward of 288,000 ballots from Bethpage, New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, thereby illegally transporting ballots across state lines. Create Account Affidavits by postal workers in three Pennsylvania cities have testified that various post offices illegally backdated ballots and ordered that Trump mail be placed in the “Undeliverable Bulk Business Mail” bin while emphasizing that Biden mail should be delivered on time. According to one affidavit, a Michigan election supervisor violated existing state law by instructing election workers at in-person polling places not to request photo identification from voters. Affidavits filed in Michigan claim that poll workers were instructed to ignore signature mismatches, backdate late-arriving ballots (to make it appear that they had arrived before the statutory deadline), and process ballots of questionable validity. In 18 sworn affidavits in Michigan, the witnesses claimed that election officials had counted the ballots of people whose names were not in the voter file, and that those names were added into the system with the birth date of Jan. 1, 1900. One of these 18 affiants was Robert Cushman, who said in his testimony: “When I asked about this impossibility of each ballot having the same birthday occurring in 1900, I was told that was the instruction that came down from the Wayne County Clerk’s office.” Approximately 9,500 Michigan mail-in ballots were purportedly submitted by voters whose names and birth dates matched those in the death records of the Social Security Death Index. In addition, nearly 2,000 more ballots were cast in the names of voters who claimed to be aged 100+ but were not listed in public records as living individuals. In Nevada, 42,284 people are on record as having voted twice in 2020. Moreover, ballots were cast in the names of approximately 20,000 individuals without a Nevada mailing address; 2,468 people who had moved to another state and thus were ineligible to vote in Nevada; 1,500 people who were dead; almost 4,000 non-citizens; and nearly 30,000 people who falsely listed non-residential, vacant, or non-existent addresses as their home addresses IT and cyber-security specialist Melissa Carone, who on Nov. 3 and 4 worked as a contractor for Dominion Voting Systems - the company that provided the voting machines in 66 of Michigan’s 83 counties in 2020 told a Michigan Senate Oversight Committee hearing: “What I witnessed at the TDS Center (where votes were being counted) was complete fraud. The whole 27 hours I was there. There were batches of ballots being ran through the tabulating machines numerous times, being counted eight to 10 times, I watched this with my own eyes. I was there to assist with IT.” Adding that she was “under the impression 100 percent that all of these workers were in on this,” Carone claimed: “There was not a single ballot that the whole night, the whole 27 hours that I was there, that was for Donald Trump, not one.” https://www.gastongazette.com/story/opinion/columns/2021/01/27/opinion-election-fraud-and-biden-not-legit/4280773001/

Fake news, little Frankie.

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:15am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 1:26am: If America goes under, so do you. That's true. Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm. Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy. Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors. It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever.

and yet you call for the overthrowing of the wildly successful competant president xi

aquascoot wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 4:19pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 7:15am: Richdude wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 1:26am: If America goes under, so do you. That's true. Thank 'god' the US Constitution, and the institutions that support it, held firm. Had that not been the case, the US would today be under martial law and the white trash that infests the US would now be 2 weeks into dismantling US democracy. Thankfully the would-be-if-they-could-be insurrectionists are as blood-simple as their ancestors. It's true about revolutions and civil wars: they may sometimes be necessary but their cultural legacy and backlash can take hundreds of years to dissipate, if ever. and yet you call for the overthrowing of the wildly successful competant president xi

Hyperbolic idiocy in defense of a totalitarian is not much less reprehensible than intellectual calculation.

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A Truthful account

No the account is still based on that big lie.

Richdude wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

Last Wednesdays Gathering in Washington An American Perspective on the DC Tragedy On Wednesday January 6th 2021, over a half a million Americans gathered to peacefully rally and petition their government to honor and protect our election from fraud and corruption, and to restore the integrity of the 2020 vote. It was a gathering of good and decent people. They came forth as the best of our nation and shouldered the responsibility of petitioning our representatives to protect our elections and ensure that our vote was clean and legal and the election open and transparent. They gathered in hopes of preserving our Republic for all Americans. The over half million rallied as they have done for the last decade. They were of good spirits and positive despite the abuses, threats and violence inflicted on them over the last decade. They are the best of America in so many ways. The DC mayor removed the hundreds of portable bathrooms during the night from around the Washington Monument. The restaurants were shut down and the food truck vendors were banned. She acted in ways that are indefensible for a mayor to treat Americans depraving them of access to bathrooms, food and water. The weather was sub-freezing with a strong north west wind of 20 mph and gusty. The grounds were soggy and the cold crept through the moist grounds through shoes and socks after 6 hours of standing out in the elements, but throughout all of this, the crowd remained in good spirits. President Trump was masterful in presenting the case of massive coordinated voter fraud on an epic historic scale throughout the nation and in particular, in the 6 contested states. The evidence was compelling and irrefutable. It reminded all of the efforts by the major media organs and the social media platforms to suppress, shutdown and censored the fact and evidenced from ever reaching the light of day.  At the end, the president asked the faithful to present themselves to the Capital peacefully. We are and have always been law abiding and supporters of police, so there was no issue about the right to petition our representatives on the matter of protecting our vote and the results of the 2020 election. WE looked restoration of the vote of millions of legal voters. The violence and mayhem that occurred was not connected in any way to President Trump or the patriots that assembled. As Chairman of the Virginia Tea Party, I condemn lawlessness and violence that occurred at the Capital as I have condemned the violence, looting, arson, assaulting, killing that our nation suffered through all last year by the left-wing hate groups like Antifa and BLM. So we who assembled for this DC Stop the Steal MAGA rally are proud of our participation and involvement and condemned the incidents of violence that distracted from our good faith effort to protect the voting rights of all Americans and to seek restoration of the millions of legal votes that were negated in the voting fraud operations conducted and orchestrated by the democrats. No regrets from the many who attended. I applaud all those peaceful and conscientious patriots that gathered on Wednesday and I am proud to be counted among the faithful who stood that day before our President and our Congress. I was honored to be able to help bring a group from my area and neither they nor I ever regretted that decision to come to DC and make a stand for our Republic. I love our nation and our freedoms. It is a fading hope, but it remains my sincere desire that we Americans can recognize one another as Americans once again. May God Bless and Keep all of you and may He grant our nation cleansing of the evil that was inflicted on our nation and on our elections and make it so that America is made Great again.

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At the end, the president asked the faithful to present themselves to the Capital peacefully.

Was that when he told them to go down there and to fight like hell ?

The aim was to stop the vote count, singing kumbaya out in the street was never going to achieve this aim.

Funny that the guy behind this article clearly had no intention of following the advice from the speeches or the presidents directive.

https://youtu.be/kjx3cIeUC54

Another truthful account, this one of the election fraud.

wrote on :

A "close, tight, dubious election" - with a margin of seven million votes and the same electoral college margin as Trump, 2016.

You have to admire the mendacity. Imagine if Hillary had tried this.

You, old boy, take the cake - the most tendentious, hyperbolic agit-prop cadre here, and a devious NESBer to boot.

And we wouldn't have it any other way. Rich multiculural tapestry indeed, innit.

Quite so.

Lock her up.

Stop the Steal.

DRAIN THE SWAMP.

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A Truthful account

Makes me wonder - What is a A Truthful account without the truth ?

Guess it is just an account.

The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high. Proof of some fraud, or a statistical proof that the outcome was highly improbable, do not meet that standard. It must be proven that sufficient votes were stolen or invented to change the outcome. No one can collect that kind of information in a few weeks. But it can be collected in months or years, and that’s what it will take.

Either we are in this for the duration, or we’ve lost. But we have not lost yet. There was massive fraud. Whether there was sufficient fraud to determine the outcome is beside the point. Large parts of the Democratic Party are criminal organizations and have to be held accountable.
Civil suits require a much lower standard of proof. Criminal cases must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, but civil suits require only “the preponderance of the evidence.” We may not be able to produce enough phony ballots or enough affidavits from Trump voters to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the results were fudged, but civil cases can produce a preponderance of evidence of fraud. Statistical arguments don’t hold water before a judge considering whether to overturn an election, but they contribute to preponderance of evidence.

Every Trump elector or Republican candidate who lost due to suspected fraud can sue the relevant Democratic Party apparatchiks in civil court. These lawsuits allow interrogation of the miscreants under oath. If we can’t put them in jail for vote fraud, we can get them on perjury. And we can wreak merry havoc on the Democratic Party organizations, and make mid-level officials pay the price for the nefarious schemes of their superiors. The rank-and-file fraudsters and the local party machines are the soft underbelly of the Democratic Party. That’s where it is vulnerable to a sustained and relentless attack.

This will require patience and the participation of tens of thousands of volunteers, as well as a good deal of money (although it might eventually pay for itself through the collection of civil damages).  Civil suits have been litigated successfully against vote fraud for years. Thousands of such suits would ruin the Democrats.

There was enough fraud to catch the Democrats’ collective necktie in the wringer.
https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2021/01/11/heres-how-we-flatten-the-democratic-party-during-the-next-four-years-n1332570


In any case, this will be the last Democrat prez for a very long time.  Biden has no electable successor  among the Dems. He is their last, farcical hurray.

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high.

That, coupled with the fact that they had no evidence whatsoever.

Oh, and the main reason of course: T****'s lawyers admitted to the courts that they were NOT pursuing a fraud case.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 4:22pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 3:44pm: The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high. That, coupled with the fact that they had no evidence whatsoever. Oh, and the main reason of course: T****'s lawyers admitted to the courts that they were NOT pursuing a fraud case.

In case you don't believe me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuwl2p9TIDE

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high. Proof of some fraud, or a statistical proof that the outcome was highly improbable, do not meet that standard. It must be proven that sufficient votes were stolen or invented to change the outcome. No one can collect that kind of information in a few weeks. But it can be collected in months or years, and that’s what it will take. Either we are in this for the duration, or we’ve lost. But we have not lost yet. There was massive fraud. Whether there was sufficient fraud to determine the outcome is beside the point. Large parts of the Democratic Party are criminal organizations and have to be held accountable. Civil suits require a much lower standard of proof. Criminal cases must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, but civil suits require only “the preponderance of the evidence.” We may not be able to produce enough phony ballots or enough affidavits from Trump voters to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the results were fudged, but civil cases can produce a preponderance of evidence of fraud. Statistical arguments don’t hold water before a judge considering whether to overturn an election, but they contribute to preponderance of evidence. Every Trump elector or Republican candidate who lost due to suspected fraud can sue the relevant Democratic Party apparatchiks in civil court. These lawsuits allow interrogation of the miscreants under oath. If we can’t put them in jail for vote fraud, we can get them on perjury. And we can wreak merry havoc on the Democratic Party organizations, and make mid-level officials pay the price for the nefarious schemes of their superiors. The rank-and-file fraudsters and the local party machines are the soft underbelly of the Democratic Party. That’s where it is vulnerable to a sustained and relentless attack. This will require patience and the participation of tens of thousands of volunteers, as well as a good deal of money (although it might eventually pay for itself through the collection of civil damages).  Civil suits have been litigated successfully against vote fraud for years. Thousands of such suits would ruin the Democrats. There was enough fraud to catch the Democrats’ collective necktie in the wringer. https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2021/01/11/heres-how-we-flatten-the-democratic-party-during-the-next-four-years-n1332570 In any case, this will be the last Democrat prez for a very long time.  Biden has no electable successor  among the Dems. He is their last, farcical hurray.

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The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high.

As it should be but it would not have made a difference if the bar was very low.

There wasn't weak evidence - there was no evidence. All they had was disproven conspiracy theories that they all knew were false.


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There was massive fraud.

There was virtually no fraud.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 4:43pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 3:44pm: The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high. Proof of some fraud, or a statistical proof that the outcome was highly improbable, do not meet that standard. It must be proven that sufficient votes were stolen or invented to change the outcome. No one can collect that kind of information in a few weeks. But it can be collected in months or years, and that’s what it will take. Either we are in this for the duration, or we’ve lost. But we have not lost yet. There was massive fraud. Whether there was sufficient fraud to determine the outcome is beside the point. Large parts of the Democratic Party are criminal organizations and have to be held accountable. Civil suits require a much lower standard of proof. Criminal cases must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, but civil suits require only “the preponderance of the evidence.” We may not be able to produce enough phony ballots or enough affidavits from Trump voters to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the results were fudged, but civil cases can produce a preponderance of evidence of fraud. Statistical arguments don’t hold water before a judge considering whether to overturn an election, but they contribute to preponderance of evidence. Every Trump elector or Republican candidate who lost due to suspected fraud can sue the relevant Democratic Party apparatchiks in civil court. These lawsuits allow interrogation of the miscreants under oath. If we can’t put them in jail for vote fraud, we can get them on perjury. And we can wreak merry havoc on the Democratic Party organizations, and make mid-level officials pay the price for the nefarious schemes of their superiors. The rank-and-file fraudsters and the local party machines are the soft underbelly of the Democratic Party. That’s where it is vulnerable to a sustained and relentless attack. This will require patience and the participation of tens of thousands of volunteers, as well as a good deal of money (although it might eventually pay for itself through the collection of civil damages).  Civil suits have been litigated successfully against vote fraud for years. Thousands of such suits would ruin the Democrats. There was enough fraud to catch the Democrats’ collective necktie in the wringer. https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2021/01/11/heres-how-we-flatten-the-democratic-party-during-the-next-four-years-n1332570 In any case, this will be the last Democrat prez for a very long time.  Biden has no electable successor  among the Dems. He is their last, farcical hurray. Quote: The Trump campaign’s vote fraud lawsuits crashed and burned because the standard of proof required by a court to overturn an election is extremely high. As it should be but it would not have made a difference if the bar was very low. There wasn't weak evidence - there was no evidence. All they had was disproven conspiracy theories that they all knew were false. [quote]There was massive fraud.

There was virtually no fraud.[/quote]

And the few cases they did find, were actually votes for T****.

But let's not forget the main issue here: Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani said in court, to the judge, that there was NO fraud case.