It appears that plots are being exposed. Trump will have to be hung for his treachery.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/01/13/graphic-details-emerge-of-violence-by-trump-rioters-msnbc/

https://twitter.com/i/status/1349312406804025345


Quote:

Violence By Trump Rioters (MSNBC) By VT Editors -January 13, 20211378 Rioters stole Capitol Officer’s gun and fired shots at him within the capitol One officer loses his eye.. Rioters used tasers on police Well coordinated, but obviously failed, plots to murder Pence and kidnap members of congress Members of congress advised to wear bulletproof vests

Its a violent mob.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/01/13/gettyimages-1230455457_custom-709f812aa8d9e809459d3b4e83fdd092320105da-s1600-c85.jpg

"Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:54pm:

"Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers

Exactly. No harm in lynching Mike Pence.

You'd do it. Who wouldn't?

As for that TRAITOR, Bill Barr, well.

You always did say he was a leftard sneak, Bias. You always did say that, dear.

Karnal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:59pm:

As for that TRAITOR, Bill Barr, well. You always did say he was a leftard sneak, Bias. You always did say that, dear.

Who's Bill Barr? Never heard of him

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 9:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:59pm: As for that TRAITOR, Bill Barr, well. You always did say he was a leftard sneak, Bias. You always did say that, dear. Who's Bill Barr? Never heard of him

Me too, Bias.

Who's Jeff Sessions?

TRAITORs.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:54pm:

"Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers

That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE."


That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters.

God - if they're not careful they'll end up as bad as the BLeMish on society ..... long way to go to equal the number of burnt business and dead people and destroyed historical things.....

Karnal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 9:53pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 9:34pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:59pm: As for that TRAITOR, Bill Barr, well. You always did say he was a leftard sneak, Bias. You always did say that, dear. Who's Bill Barr? Never heard of him Me too, Bias. Who's Jeff Sessions? TRAITORs.

Wouldn't have a Barr of them no matter how many Sessions I'd had... not for any number of Pence...   ;)

Damn - you said 'Bill Barr'....... not

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Bilbo_Baggins.jpg

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fa39d115c127ff56afbaea42c332dbfc502ec7cd1a57c1b3a79182949fc37bd4.jpg

Marla fantasising again....

Damn - you said 'Bill Barr'....... not

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Bilbo_Baggins.jpg

Raven wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 11:40pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters.

Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters.

Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM.

It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause.

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 1:58am:

Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause.

Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot.

This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it.

That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president.

Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear.

Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered.

These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy.

They wanted to hang Pence because they honestly thought he could overturn the EC votes and give Trump 4 more years because they didn't understand the legislation that was "decoded" by a Q Baker that went viral through the community.

Rather than accepting they made a mistake and were wrong, they turned on Pence thinking that he chose not to act and cost Trump 4 more years so he must die, not that he couldn't do what they wanted, their "Pence Card".

Even Trump fell for it, or lied to promote it in an attempt to shift the blame for his loss to Pence, saying at a rally in Georgia that Pence has the "power to reject fraudulently chosen electors" and he hopes Pence "comes through for us."

It's a good lesson to anyone who tries to take advantage of MAGATards and QTards, they'll turn on you in a second and they're the people sending pipe bombs, Storming the Capitol and killing people.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 12:51am:

Marla fantasising again.... Damn - you said 'Bill Barr'....... not https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Bilbo_Baggins.jpg

I bet that hangs over h/er BED... ;) ;) the picture I mean.

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 8:37am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:51am: Marla fantasising again.... Damn - you said 'Bill Barr'....... not https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Bilbo_Baggins.jpg I bet that hangs over her BED... ;) ;) the picture I mean.

Ivanka's bed?

Raven wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 3:02am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy.

Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time.

All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law.


You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge.

Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't.

Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No?

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No?

Oh to live in your world, where everything you believe is true.

poor sad front bottom, you are trolling again or just delusional?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94

The "Pence Card".

The Q believers were sure Mike would play it, it would usher in the storm and the mass arrests would begin.  They've been primed for years into believing crazy delusional things like this.

And it may surprise you, but Rich is one of the less radical QTards.

The terrorists set up the gallows and were chanting to Hang Mike Pence.  It's documented, there is video evidence, but some, like Rich, will still lie about it.

It's what they do.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 9:06am:

cods wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 8:37am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:51am: Marla fantasising again.... Damn - you said 'Bill Barr'....... not https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Bilbo_Baggins.jpg I bet that hangs over her BED... ;) ;) the picture I mean. Ivanka's bed?

More likely YOUR bed pissery, you being the biggest 'sock-cucker' on this forum......Marlon, Sad Rooter, and Blott of The Landscape being your apprentices..... ;D ;D ;D

scope wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:11am: Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No? Oh to live in your world, where everything you believe is true. poor sad front bottom, you are trolling again or just delusional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94

A lie!

Trump did not say, or the crowd "hang Mike Pence" cause we did not know at that stage. The vote was delayed because of the unrest.

Also, Trump did vilify Pence in any way!

What you provided was deliberate political propaganda.

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No?

You said it, mate. As they say in the classics, "If the shoe fits..."

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 11:58am:

scope wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:54am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:11am: Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No? Oh to live in your world, where everything you believe is true. poor sad front bottom, you are trolling again or just delusional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94 A lie! Trump did not say, or the crowd "hang Mike Pence" cause we did not know at that stage. The vote was delayed because of the unrest. Also, Trump did vilify Pence in any way! What you provided was deliberate political propaganda.

The vote was delayed because of the terroist attack, and everybody knew because it was impossible for Pence to do what Trump was saying he should.

Sure, there was a vast number of idiotic, misinformed and dimwitted Trump supporters in the crowds with you who may have actually thought the VP can overturn the election result if he doesn't like it, but everybody else knew he couldn't.

The hate on Pence started well before the attack.

Ah but to remember back when those taking part in the peaceful BLM marches and protests said the didn't see any violence and remember how you still called them thugs and criminals Rich.

You expect us to believe, because you didn't see something happen personally, that it couldn't have possibly happened?  Even when there is video and a trending hashtag at the time?

Or better yet, you expect us to believe your recounting of the events when you've proven to be the most dishonest piece of poo on this entire forum?

Loooooool, so much larf.

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 11:58am:

scope wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:54am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:11am: Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No? Oh to live in your world, where everything you believe is true. poor sad front bottom, you are trolling again or just delusional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94 A lie! Trump did not say, or the crowd "hang Mike Pence" cause we did not know at that stage. The vote was delayed because of the unrest. Also, Trump did vilify Pence in any way! What you provided was deliberate political propaganda.

Really you are a buggeren moron, I never claimed Trump said "hang Mike pence"
On the other hand
I have provided a link to one of hundreds of videos of some in the crowd of knobheads who did chant "Hang Mike Pence" which you claim never happened.

I know providing evidence is something you never do,  thats because everything you claim is an outright lie.

when are you going to stop lying you retarded mushroom?

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 11:58am:

scope wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:54am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 10:11am: Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No? Oh to live in your world, where everything you believe is true. poor sad front bottom, you are trolling again or just delusional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94 A lie! Trump did not say, or the crowd "hang Mike Pence" cause we did not know at that stage. The vote was delayed because of the unrest. Also, Trump did vilify Pence in any way! What you provided was deliberate political propaganda.

Stochastic terrorism.

The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question.

Look at Pences Twitter timeline and check when his statement was released, before the count, with him saying he couldn't do what Trump wanted.

It was directly after that the chants started.

Check the tapes, check Twitter feed.

Trump's supporters knew before the count started and was delayed.

It was yelled over megaphone during the siege.

Stop lying Rich.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question.

That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength.

How is that possible?

They don't have social media in America yet, right?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Look at Pences Twitter timeline and check when his statement was released, before the count, with him saying he couldn't do what Trump wanted. It was directly after that the chants started. Check the tapes, check Twitter feed. Trump's supporters knew before the count started and was delayed. It was yelled over megaphone during the siege. Stop lying Rich.

Why are you calling J.D Rich, Sad?

Rich left, remember?

Karnal wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right?

Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds.

They would have to prove that in the senate

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate

Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't?

It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign

Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one?

Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece.

The party's over, J.D. Join the world.

Karnal wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 7:42pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world.

You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival.

It's crucial to the survival of the country.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival.

65% of Americans have turned on Trump, Rich.

Republicans support his impeachment.

Along with a public service, Nancy is performing a popular one. No one supports it more than leading Republican, Mitch McConnell.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 7:56pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:53pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival. It's crucial to the survival of the country.

Let Ivanka take over the MAGA movement.

She can soften the tone and do a few product placements to cash in.

With any luck, she can sell it on late night TV like an infomercial.

Karnal wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 8:20pm:

Let Ivanka take over the MAGA movement. She can soften the tone and do a few product placements to cash in. With any luck, she can sell it on late night TV like an infomercial.

Maybe she can make a movie about it ... something like 'Ivanka does deplorables'

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 8:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 8:20pm: Let Ivanka take over the MAGA movement. She can soften the tone and do a few product placements to cash in. With any luck, she can sell it on late night TV like an infomercial. Maybe she can make a movie about it ... something like 'Ivanka does deplorables'

What about 'Easy Rider'?

Karnal wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 8:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:56pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:53pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival. It's crucial to the survival of the country. Let Ivanka take over the MAGA movement. She can soften the tone and do a few product placements to cash in. With any luck, she can sell it on late night TV like an infomercial.

I wonder how this timeline will play out in the senate, you lot don't have times just hype and blood lust.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 8:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:56pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:53pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival. It's crucial to the survival of the country. Let Ivanka take over the MAGA movement. She can soften the tone and do a few product placements to cash in. With any luck, she can sell it on late night TV like an infomercial. I wonder how this timeline will play out in the senate, you lot don't have times just hype and blood lust.

The Senate?

Oh, Rich, try to keep up. Dear Leader's stopped referring to constitutional regulations. He's calling your thing a "movement." You?

Yes, you, all the way over there in Israel.

Globalism, innit.

The democrats are terrified. For the last few years their useful fools in ANTIFA and BLM have looted, burned and killed with relative impunity, encouraged by tacit approval from the 'progressive'  elements in government, universities and the media.

Now however, the 'other side' has adopted their tactics but with the terrifying new twist of not attacking the common people and destroying their property, but going after the politicians themselves. This has led to panic in the 'progressive' ranks. They have been safely insulated from the consequences of  their actions until now, and the shock  has led to panicked cries of insurrection and revolution.... totally unable to see the hypocrisy of their position.  ::)

Belgarion wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 7:18am:

The democrats are terrified. For the last few years their useful fools in ANTIFA and BLM have looted, burned and killed with relative impunity, encouraged by tacit approval from the 'progressive'  elements in government, universities and the media. Now however, the 'other side' has adopted their tactics but with the terrifying new twist of not attacking the common people and destroying their property, but going after the politicians themselves. This has led to panic in the 'progressive' ranks. They have been safely insulated from the consequences of  their actions until now, and the shock  has led to panicked cries of insurrection and revolution.... totally unable to see the hypocrisy of their position.  ::)

So defending one violent mob over another is not hypocritical....Geez you are a dickhead mate???

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Belgarion wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 7:18am:

The democrats are terrified. For the last few years their useful fools in ANTIFA and BLM have looted, burned and killed with relative impunity, encouraged by tacit approval from the 'progressive'  elements in government, universities and the media. Now however, the 'other side' has adopted their tactics but with the terrifying new twist of not attacking the common people and destroying their property, but going after the politicians themselves. This has led to panic in the 'progressive' ranks. They have been safely insulated from the consequences of  their actions until now, and the shock  has led to panicked cries of insurrection and revolution.... totally unable to see the hypocrisy of their position.  ::)

Ee-gad, dear, is that correct?

If so, how do you explain this?


Quote:

A new database of nearly 900 politically motivated attacks and plots in the United States since 1994 includes just one attack staged by an anti-fascist that led to fatalities. In that case, the single person killed was the perpetrator. Over the same time period, American white supremacists and other rightwing extremists have carried out attacks that left at least 329 victims dead, according to the database.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa

We can rack that up to 334, with the riots the president just incited.

Further:


Quote:

Antifa activists have been the targets of domestic terror attacks by white supremacists, including in a terror plot early this year, in which law enforcement officials alleged that members of the neo-Nazi group the Base had planned to murder a married couple in Georgia they believed were anti-fascist organizers. “Antifa is not going around murdering people like rightwing extremists are. It’s a false equivalence,” said Beirich.

There goes your Antifa claim. Would you like to explore Black Lives Matter?

Karnal wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 4:35pm:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-de...

ooh the garudian. Then it must be right. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 4:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 4:35pm: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-de... ooh the garudian. Then it must be right. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No, dear, the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, a non-partisan think-tank.

https://www.csis.org/people/seth-g-jones

Are you saying the Guardian is misquoting them?

Karnal wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

Are you saying the Guardian is misquoting them?

It wouldn't be the first time they "erroneously" reported something. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 4:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 4:35pm: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-de... ooh the garudian. Then it must be right. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The Guardian (quoting the Centre for Strategic and International Studies) could never be as "right" as asshats on Facebook and Twitter, right?



::)

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:25pm:

The Guardian (quoting the Centre for Strategic and International Studies) could never be as "right" as asshats on Facebook and Twitter, right?

Sorry don't belong. So wrong again petal.

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:25pm: The Guardian (quoting the Centre for Strategic and International Studies) could never be as "right" as asshats on Facebook and Twitter, right? Sorry don't belong. So wrong again petal.

To what?

And how is that relevant?

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:32pm:

To what?

Pharcebook and Twit-ter


Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:32pm:

And how is that relevant?

So how am I to know what their users do or say? Unless directed to sites, I wouldn't know. You know like Nancy and her hatred and how the Dem's were robbed hijacked. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:32pm: To what? Pharcebook and Twit-ter Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:32pm: And how is that relevant? So how am I to know what their users do or say? Unless directed to sites, I wouldn't know. You know like Nancy and her hatred and how the Dem's were robbed hijacked. ;D ;D ;D ;D

You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards.

Probably a good call, as much (the vast majority of it) is completely unsubstantiated rubbish, so at least you're not missing out on much.

At least the Guardian article talks about a study conducted by independent people, who know what they're doing...

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards.

And not from the left/Dems? So Nancy's rant is a one off? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:50pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:47pm: You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards. And not from the left/Dems? So Nancy's rant is a one off? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

*shrugs*

Maybe it's just me, but there is a fair difference in Nancy having a rant, and Trump supporters storming the Capitol Building, planning the "storming" of Capitol buildings (or whatever the equivalent is) in - what is it, 50 States?- and those "on the right" being responsible for the bulk of deaths in Terrorism-related attacks over the last quarter century...

Or is there an equivalence there that isn't immediately revealing itself to me?

As a by-the by, do you have a comment to make about the over-respresentation of Right Wing actors in Terrorism-related deaths over the last quarter century? Or would you be more comfortable just focusing on Nancy?

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival.

The Republicans are desperate for Trump to not run again. They may not survive his current term when the dust settles. How many of them were also responsible for last weeks sedition ? Now we have 10 of them voted for impeachment, funny how they can change their mind when they get a first hand dose of insurrection.

Mostly the Republicans have been able to survive on this through grift and personal profit, at least they know the truth even though they are happy to lie but now they have members of Q in their numbers - genuine nutbags who really do believe that the election was rigged.

Karnal wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 4:37pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 4:35pm: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-de... ooh the garudian. Then it must be right. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No, dear, the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, a non-partisan think-tank. https://www.csis.org/people/seth-g-jones Are you saying the Guardian is misquoting them?

If you read the words carefully you will see that Lee didn't really say anything.

Karnal wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right?

I think Face Book is going to open a US office in 2025 but are starting with the hard cover version only.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 8:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:56pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:53pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:42pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 7:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? Is that right? can you prove that timeline, was it really 10 seconds. They would have to prove that in the senate Oh, dear, do you really imagine that they won't? It took a Republican Senate to confirm Russia Russia Russia. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign Can you imagine what the Senate's going to find after this one? Fake news is numbered. Reality is back in vogue. You're going to have an uphill battle from here on in playing Putin's mouthpiece. The party's over, J.D. Join the world. You don't have the timeline in question so we will see in the senate. Another fizzer i suspect and when Biden and his gal fck up in the next 4yrs they sure as hell don't want Trump to run again, now that's cunning and this impeachment is crucial to their survival. It's crucial to the survival of the country. Let Ivanka take over the MAGA movement. She can soften the tone and do a few product placements to cash in. With any luck, she can sell it on late night TV like an infomercial. I wonder how this timeline will play out in the senate, you lot don't have times just hype and blood lust.

How many times did Donny refuse to accept a peaceful handover of power ? You recall his instruction to the white supremacists to stand back and stand by?

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Maybe it's just me, but there is a fair difference in Nancy having a rant, and Trump supporters storming the Capitol Building, planning the "storming" of Capitol buildings (or whatever the equivalent is) in - what is it, 50 States?- and those "on the right" being responsible for the bulk of deaths in Terrorism-related attacks over the last quarter century...

So then it is not actually Pharcebook and Twit-ter on your hit list but something else. Please spell it out petal.  So left wing rants are ok, right wing ones not? I am just trying to help you clear what passes for your mind. I am also trying very hard to figure out how right wingers stormed the Capitol on Pharcebook and Twit-ter. But you probably have more experience of them than me. ;)


Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

As a by-the by, do you have a comment to make about the over-respresentation of Right Wing actors in Terrorism-related deaths over the last quarter century? Or would you be more comfortable just focusing on Nancy?

I have no truck with either left wing or right wing violence. You?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 4:55pm: The timeline of Trumps so called incitement of insurrection and the so called insurrection is in question. That's right. It took them a good ten seconds to attack after Mr Trump instructed them to fight hard and show those weak Republicans strength. How is that possible? They don't have social media in America yet, right? I think Face Book is going to open a US office in 2025 but are starting with the hard cover version only.

HMM. 10 seconds to type a message and put out a group call? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:50pm: Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:47pm: You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards. And not from the left/Dems? So Nancy's rant is a one off? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D *shrugs* Maybe it's just me, but there is a fair difference in Nancy having a rant, and Trump supporters storming the Capitol Building, planning the "storming" of Capitol buildings (or whatever the equivalent is) in - what is it, 50 States?- and those "on the right" being responsible for the bulk of deaths in Terrorism-related attacks over the last quarter century... Or is there an equivalence there that isn't immediately revealing itself to me? As a by-the by, do you have a comment to make about the over-respresentation of Right Wing actors in Terrorism-related deaths over the last quarter century? Or would you be more comfortable just focusing on Nancy?

Quote:

but there is a fair difference in Nancy having a rant

Nancy had a rant ?

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:56pm: Maybe it's just me, but there is a fair difference in Nancy having a rant, and Trump supporters storming the Capitol Building, planning the "storming" of Capitol buildings (or whatever the equivalent is) in - what is it, 50 States?- and those "on the right" being responsible for the bulk of deaths in Terrorism-related attacks over the last quarter century... Quote: So then it is not actually Pharcebook and Twit-ter on your hit list but something else. Please spell it out petal.  So left wing rants are ok, right wing ones not? I am just trying to help you clear what passes for your mind. I am also trying very hard to figure out how right wingers stormed the Capitol on Pharcebook and Twit-ter. But you probably have more experience of them than me. ;) I'm not even sure WTF the above is actually supposed to mean. This from the bloke who's anally-retentive about people "paraphrasing" or "misquoting" him. And you pulled the above half-baked dribble from (presumably) some orifice? FMD... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Show me where I said or inferred any of the highlighted part. I made it quite clear what I was talking about earlier in the thread. Please...don't display your out-and-out ignorance to all and sundry...it's embarrassing. I'd like to think that me having to "spell it out" further would be insulting to your intelligence, but apparently not so. Re-read the earlier posts - slowly, if it helps. Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:56pm: As a by-the by, do you have a comment to make about the over-respresentation of Right Wing actors in Terrorism-related deaths over the last quarter century? Or would you be more comfortable just focusing on Nancy? [quote] I have no truck with either left wing or right wing violence. You?

That is all you've got?

A glib "I have no truck with either left wing or right wing violence. You?"

You've been presented with evidence that the bulk of deaths from Domestic Terrorism in the 'States over the last quarter century has been at the hands of Right Wing actors, and all you have is "I have no truck with either left wing or right wing violence. You?"?

Oh, and some typical "whataboutism" about Nancy, and the inference of a false equivalence (given that the thread title is "Violence by Trump Rioters".)

::)

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

You've been presented with evidence that the bulk of deaths from Domestic Terrorism in the 'States over the last quarter century has been at the hands of Right Wing actors, and all you have is "I have no truck with either left wing or right wing violence. You?"?

Yes petal. Me. What about you?


Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

Oh, and some typical "whataboutism" about Nancy, and the inference of a false equivalence (given that the thread title is "Violence by Trump Rioters".)

Poor petal. That sweet nancy she  did right by her boys. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But getting back to Pharcebook and Twit-ter - just what are your problems with them?

Don't want to say eh? ;)

lee wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 6:41pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 6:38pm: You've been presented with evidence that the bulk of deaths from Domestic Terrorism in the 'States over the last quarter century has been at the hands of Right Wing actors, and all you have is "I have no truck with either left wing or right wing violence. You?"? Yes petal. Me. What about you? Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 6:38pm: Oh, and some typical "whataboutism" about Nancy, and the inference of a false equivalence (given that the thread title is "Violence by Trump Rioters".) Poor petal. That sweet nancy she  did right by her boys. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But getting back to Pharcebook and Twit-ter - just what are your problems with them? Don't want to say eh? ;)

Let's do this all night, shall we?

I spelled out what I meant in an earlier post WRT to various Social Media platforms.

Which part did you not understand

Also, please show me where I said or inferred that I "have problems with" the Social Media Platforms.

(Probably best not to infer meaning from other people's posts...you're not very good at it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)

Richdude wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Raven wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 3:02am: Richdude wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:58am: Raven wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:40pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:54pm: "Maintenance of freedom requires eternal vigilance and the spilling of blood from time to time" - Founding Fathers That was perhaps the three most chilling words chanted by the rioters "HANG MIKE PENCE." That is what four years of unswerving loyalty to Trump gets you. An angry lynch mob, not from the radical left,  but your own president's supporters. Good propaganda Comrade, but that was never said by any of the 1/2 million peaceful protesters. Violence, looting and burning is an extreme left wing occupation. BLM and antifa are examples. Hmm I wonder if the BLM named themselves after another BLM group of homicidal fanatics, the Black Liberation Movement? They blew up people all over and even blew up one wing of Congress. (Imagine if Trump had done something like that). Susan Rosenburg was to 58 years, that Bill Clinton pardoned some years later. Now this looney works for, wait for it .... BLM. It appears what was one considered a dreadful crime is not now, if you have a left wing cause. Good deflection Comrade, here is footage of Trump supporters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" during the Capitol Hill riot. This wasn't just some convention of clowns and weirdos giving themselves a free tour of the Capitol. It was a deliberate, violent assault on the heart of American democracy, with the aim of overthrowing it. That sounds like an overstatement. It isn't one. The mob wanted Congress to reject the certified results of the election and install Trump, the losing candidate, as an unelected president. Some of the rioters were carrying zip tie handcuffs, of the sort used by police during mass arrests. They wore tactical gear. Others erected a gallows outside the building. A vehicle found nearby contained almost a dozen molotov cocktails. Two pipe bombs were planted. A police officer was murdered. These are the "patriots" you support, you coward. You cling to proven falsehoods and support a known grifter who has incited violence in the past. You and your ilk are the greatest threat to American democracy. Except they never said that! How could we know that? The Congressional vote hadn't happened at that time. All this rubbish are lies by the media, condemning a 1/2 million outraged protesters by another attempted coup. Trump supporters at the rally were well behaved and respected the constitution and rule of law. You accept your phony news, as with your morning porridge. Trump has principles, something very few of you really understand. Thus, you cannot comprehend someone like him, but don't have the arrogance to assume we don't. Criminals understand criminals, and think everyone thinks like they do. No?

Oh.... OH! *clap clap clap* Bravo! Raven must say you've had him fooled for some time. Here he was was thinking you were the dumbest bloke on earth and it wasn't until that comment that Raven realised you've been playing a practical joke.

Only an imbecile would watch footage of rioters chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" and then say "Except they never said that."

Again, bravo! Raven doffs his hat to you.

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

Also, please show me where I said or inferred that I "have problems with" the Social Media Platforms.

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards.

So it's only Trump supporters that link to those sites you have a problem with. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:01pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 6:46pm: Also, please show me where I said or inferred that I "have problems with" the Social Media Platforms. Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:47pm: You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards. So it's only Trump supporters that link to those sites you have a problem with. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No.

Again, you've entirely missed the point I was making.

Give it up. You're making an even bigger fool of yourself. Something I'd not have thought possible.

Seems I was wrong...

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:42pm:

lee wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 3:01pm: Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 6:46pm: Also, please show me where I said or inferred that I "have problems with" the Social Media Platforms. Mix_Master wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 5:47pm: You must be ignoring a lot of the tripe - linked from those sites - by Right Wing/Trump supporters on these very boards. So it's only Trump supporters that link to those sites you have a problem with. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No. Again, you've entirely missed the point I was making. Give it up. You're making an even bigger fool of yourself. Something I'd not have thought possible. Seems I was wrong...

Oh it is not only possible but common. Nice fella though.

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:42pm:

Again, you've entirely missed the point I was making.

So far you have just replied "no that wasn't the point I was making". How about you enunciate the point you were poorly trying to make. ;)

This discussion is missing a central ingedient, the powerful infuence of the Murdock media over Trump and his followers.

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 4:07pm:

This discussion is missing a central ingedient, the powerful infuence of the Murdock media over Trump and his followers.

But not the MSM and their efforts against Trump? ::)

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 4:27pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 4:07pm: This discussion is missing a central ingedient, the powerful infuence of the Murdock media over Trump and his followers. But not the MSM and their efforts against Trump? ::)

No that's right. Fox news and Co

Youi know those who supported Trumps lies including the incitement, those documented as the influence of those who rioted and died in the rioting. Those supporting all the election fraud lies and on and on.

Those co responsible for sedition.

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 4:27pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 4:07pm: This discussion is missing a central ingedient, the powerful infuence of the Murdock media over Trump and his followers. But not the MSM and their efforts against Trump? ::)

only the blinkered believe its a one sided fight...

we watch the  National Guard thousands of them   preparing   for WHAT?.. god only knows!.. as the world watches American fight American.....

what an amazing example of the free world... >:( >:( >:( >:(

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 4:05pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 3:42pm: Again, you've entirely missed the point I was making. So far you have just replied "no that wasn't the point I was making". How about you enunciate the point you were poorly trying to make. ;)

Seems it's "not OK", when someone else does it, eh?  ;)

Question: Is the point I was trying to make poorly put?

Or is it more a case that you have poor comprehension skills?

Just quietly, my money's on the latter...but that's just between you and me, 'K?  ;)

Perhaps I should do two versions of my posts in the future. One for people with "normal" comprehension skills, and a special one just for you, where I explain it down to the very basics?

Would that help?

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

Seems it's "not OK", when someone else does it, eh?

Does what petal? Be specific. I know you can't be talking about me otherwise you would have said so. ;D ;D ;D


Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

Or is it more a case that you have poor comprehension skills? Just quietly, my money's on the latter...but that's just between you and me, 'K?

You still haven't said anything petal. Am I to assume you don't have the wherewithal?

I guess you don't want ot say eh? ;)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:28pm:

Youi know those who supported Trumps lies including the incitement, those documented as the influence of those who rioted and died in the rioting.

Ah the incitement that hasn't been tested in the Senate yet? And neither has any inference of involvement in the protests going from marching to rioting. But you want proof don't you? Or not?;)


Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:28pm:

Those co responsible for sedition.

I haven't seen that charge appear. Another of your inside sources? I have seen it on blogs.

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Ah the incitement that hasn't been tested in the Senate yet

the senate is not, nor will it ever be, the final arbiter of what is incitement.

*

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

the senate is not, nor will it ever be, the final arbiter of what is incitement.

The Senate will be the final arbiter in the current proceedings on whether it was incitement or not petal. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 6:37pm: the senate is not, nor will it ever be, the final arbiter of what is incitement. The Senate will be the final arbiter in the current proceedings on whether it was incitement or not petal. ;)

You're forgetting the courts dear. Charges have not yet been laid.

But I'm curious. Would you like to see Dear Leader have his day in court?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:58pm:

You're forgetting the courts dear. Charges have not yet been laid.

Charges in a court of law require hard evidence. Not "feels like" evidence.


Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:58pm:

Would you like to see Dear Leader have his day in court?

Yes. If such charges are laid. Now if the vote in the Senate is against the impeachment then I don't see it happening.

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:58pm: You're forgetting the courts dear. Charges have not yet been laid. Charges in a court of law require hard evidence. Not "feels like" evidence. Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:58pm: Would you like to see Dear Leader have his day in court? Yes. If such charges are laid. Now if the vote in the Senate is against the impeachment then I don't see it happening.

Oh? You don't see Mr Trump ending up in court?

Do you want to tell him, Greggery?

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:12pm:

Oh? You don't see Mr Trump ending up in court?

It seems he has an unlikely ally in his corner.

"James Comey: Donald Trump should not be prosecuted after leaving office"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/james-comey-donald-trump-prosecuted-saving-justice-new-book

From the garudian so it must be true. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Oh? You don't see Mr Trump ending up in court? It seems he has an unlikely ally in his corner. "James Comey: Donald Trump should not be prosecuted after leaving office" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/james-comey-donald-trump-prosecuted-saving-justice-new-book From the garudian so it must be true. ;)

You seem to be the only one who subscribes to the "so it must be true" argument.

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Oh? You don't see Mr Trump ending up in court? It seems he has an unlikely ally in his corner. "James Comey: Donald Trump should not be prosecuted after leaving office" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/james-comey-donald-trump-prosecuted-saving-justice-new-book From the garudian so it must be true. ;)

Comey's the guy who announced an investigation into Hillary's emails in the final two weeks of the 2016 campaign, dear.

He's merely displaying his loyalties.

You?

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 6:03pm:

Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:53pm: Seems it's "not OK", when someone else does it, eh? Quote: Does what petal? Be specific. I know you can't be talking about me otherwise you would have said so. ;D ;D ;D I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, and make the assumption that you do, in fact, know about what - and specifically whom - I'm talking about. ;) Mix_Master wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:53pm: Or is it more a case that you have poor comprehension skills? Just quietly, my money's on the latter...but that's just between you and me, 'K?  You still haven't said anything petal. Am I to assume you don't have the wherewithal? I guess you don't want ot say eh? ;)

I've made my point, and clearly.

I think you're projecting your lack of comprehension skills and laziness on to me, because either:

1) You've gone back and re-read the previous posts on the topic and still can't quite grasp the point I was making (and are embarrassed to admit it (bad), or,

2) You simply can't be arsed going back and re-reading what I posted earlier, so you can understand the point I was making (worse).

Question:

Since when is your comprehension problem, my problem?  ;)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:28pm:

You seem to be the only one who subscribes to the "so it must be true" argument.

So you are saying the garudian lies? That will upset your fellow leftists. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:22pm:

Comey's the guy who announced an investigation into Hillary's emails in the final two weeks of the 2016 campaign, dear. He's merely displaying his loyalties.

Comey was the guy fired by Trump. I guess he is ok with that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:22pm:

lee wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:15pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Oh? You don't see Mr Trump ending up in court? It seems he has an unlikely ally in his corner. "James Comey: Donald Trump should not be prosecuted after leaving office" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/james-comey-donald-trump-prosecuted-saving-justice-new-book From the garudian so it must be true. ;) Comey's the guy who announced an investigation into Hillary's emails in the final two weeks of the 2016 campaign, dear. He's merely displaying his loyalties. You?

Don't want to say, eh?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 11:00pm:

Don't want to say, eh?

Me what petal?

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Oh? You don't see Mr Trump ending up in court? It seems he has an unlikely ally in his corner. "James Comey: Donald Trump should not be prosecuted after leaving office" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/james-comey-donald-trump-prosecuted-saving-justice-new-book From the garudian so it must be true. ;)

He makes some good points.

If he's federally prosecuted, America will have to put up with him on their TV screens for months or even years to come.

Comey says:

"On balance, I'd rather he be convicted by the Senate, barred from office and pursued by local prosecutors in New York for the fraudster that he was, before he came [into] office," Comey said.

"It'd be better if we turned off the Klieg lights and pursue him locally, rather than giving him center stage while Joe Biden tries to lead us."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:08pm:

If he's federally prosecuted, America will have to put up with him on their TV screens for months or even years to come.

Yep. So "bread and circuses" or getting on with governing in clear air?

it doesnt look to me that anyone gives a stuff about the effect all this will have on AMERIKA as a whole...

no good talking about uniting this troubled country whilst at the same time thinking of a million ways to drill Trump into the ground.....

he WILL become a martyr

just through the absolute persecution mentality of people like Pelosi......the media alone will never leave him alone.

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 2:15pm:

it doesnt look to me that anyone gives a stuff about the effect all this will have on AMERIKA as a whole... no good talking about uniting this troubled country whilst at the same time thinking of a million ways to drill Trump into the ground..... he WILL become a martyr just through the absolute persecution mentality of people like Pelosi......the media alone will never leave him alone.

Cods is exposing itself as a member of the flock.

Where was Cods support when Trump needed it?