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Title: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 7:26am
Covid-19: Vaccine as good in 'real world' as in trial in Israel
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56069460 More data from Israel's vaccination programme is suggesting the Pfizer jab prevents 94% of symptomatic infections. This indicates the vaccine is performing just as well in a larger population as it did in the clinical trials. It is proving highly effective at preventing illness and severe disease among all age groups, according to public health doctor Prof Hagai Levine. "High vaccination coverage of the most susceptible groups" was key, he said. Israel's largest health fund Clalit looked at positive tests in 600,000 vaccinated people and the same number of unvaccinated people, matched by age and health status. It found 94% fewer infections among the vaccinated group. This was based on test results in people's medical records, usually taken if they had symptoms or were a close contact of someone who had tested positive. And the vaccine prevented almost all cases of serious illness. This pattern was the same in all age groups - including the over-70s, who may have been under-represented in clinical trials. The data has not yet been formally published. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:31am
I know 3 ppl who have had the vaccine. None of them are autistic as yet.
Spot |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:36am I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine. Something which is guiding this decision, is..... In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination. And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds. If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too. Also in consideration, is that this COVID vaccine, is a completely new medical therapy. And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:43am Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:36am:
And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig. Just merely uninformed then. And anyone who says I haven't had a flu or cold for 30 years is full of absolute poo. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by aquascoot on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:47am
It would appear that pfizer have constructed the superior vaccine
There for logic will dictate That the Australian population will be vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine ;D |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:52am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:43am:
I would have agreed with you, in the past. However, I've only ever had the flu twice in my life, and I haven't had a cold for at least 12 years. 30 years might be stretching it a bit, but there are certainly people out there less susceptible to the flu and colds than others. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:53am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:52am:
To the symptoms. Let me go with a cold for instance as a hypothetical. What are the symptoms of a cold? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:54am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:53am:
Sore throat, runny nose, cough, sneezing ... |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:56am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Runny nose is mucus production, coughing and sneezing are removal of particlkes. In other words, the symptoms are signs of your immune system fighting back. The symptoms aren't there as much when we age because our overall immune system diminishes as we age. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:56am
So what I mean is you're still getting particularly colds to a certain extent but you just aren't displaying the symptoms.
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Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:58am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:56am:
I have no evidence to support that theory. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by aquascoot on Feb 16th, 2021 at 9:14am
It's not all about you Gregory
You need to get this vaccination to keep those around you safe |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 9:15am Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:36am:
Jesus, this is real hard to say. I agree 100% with Yadda. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:00am Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:36am:
. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:43am:
Let me rephrase that; Every winter [and summer, and spring and autumn] i may very well be exposed to viruses associated with flu and winter colds, but my immune system seems well able to protect me. I have NEVER had a winter flu vaccination. And in the last 30 odd years, i have never suffered symptoms of the flu or winter colds. Why so ? Well you see bojack, when i read my bible, i commune with my God. And while i'm in communion with my God, when i read his WORD, my God teaches me how to choose. "If you make poor choices, you will get poor outcomes." "If you make good choices, you are more likely to get good outcomes." Those words are straight out of READING, the pages of the bible. ;) If we make good choices, and try to avoid poor choices, we can expect good outcomes. It isn't rocket science. It is essentially, pure scientific method, being played out in our lives. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. - Newton's Third Law of Motion . I enjoy my God's protection. Seem to. The viruses of the flu and winter colds, seem to just bounce off me, like bullets off an armoured steel wall. "Bullet proof", thats me. ;D Seem to be. And my God say's, to my heart; Don't pay any attention to that bojack fellow. He's full of it. [angel of the spirit of God, please forgive me for the paraphrasing ! :) and thank YOU for the joy in my heart ! and thank YOU for your protecting angel.] Proverbs 15:13 A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken. 14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness. Proverbs 17:22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones. . Proverbs 15:12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise. James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. . Psalms 34:7 The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. 8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:02am Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:00am:
Started off reasonable, then turned into religious nutjobbery. Stick to science dude. BTW whilst we're on that, know what mRNA actually is? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Gordon on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:06am
The flu vaccination is very safe and there are plenty of social reasons to get it.
I get it every year and I'll be getting Covid vaccine for exactly the same reason. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those people may still spread the virus to others. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:08am Gordon wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:06am:
I'm with him. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:09am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:02am:
How could i ! ??? I did a search, ....in my bible search tool. Nothing. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:12am Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:09am:
Try a knowledge search tool. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:17am Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:36am:
. greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 9:15am:
I'd love to see TRUMP make a political comeback !! Pushing it way too far ? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by rhino on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:25am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:31am:
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Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:41am rhino wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:25am:
I know two people who have had the COVID vaccine too. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:44am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:41am:
I've heard it too. It might be the AstraZeneca vaccine |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by rhino on Feb 16th, 2021 at 12:25pm
No one has had the vaccine, not sure why people are saying they have. No vaccine is currently available in Australia as per the federal government and the AstraZeneca vaccine only just received official approval yesterday.
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Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 12:30pm rhino wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 12:25pm:
I'll check, Jack the Insider (who writes columns for Australian) said he had the Pfizer vaccine on twitter so I went on that. Having said that could have been a joke. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:00pm
Yadda,
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His Yadda, so you're saying that we don't need any vaccine - we just need to read our Bibles? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Lols on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:04pm
Watched QandA last night discussing the vaccines. Seems one lot has a higher protective percentage than another. That AstraZeneca seems less protective?
So I’m happy to wait at least a year before deciding. In the meantime, I take care... as Yadda said... about making good decisions. Sanitising, masks, distancing in public, eating fresh foods (better home cooked from scratch) drink plenty water without that fluoride, and take supplements. Oh and get plenty rest/sleep and moderate exercise/movement. No smoking, and definitely minimal alcohol and cut the sugar intake. How hard can that be :) I know many are on prescriptions, but try not to allow yourself to get coerced into a bucketful of all sorts prescriptions.... question it and research it first. It horrified me when I was in hospital once, with hubby as he had a cast put on for fractured ankle.... I witnessed this younger woman than myself, having some weird panic anxiety attack... she was calmed with some medication... then I saw one of the ambo officers putting into a computer all her medications... OMG.... I could not believe how much there was...a basket load! In a honesty... some doctors love to over prescribe and some people are not discerning enough... they themselves become prescription junkies! Maybe a touch of hypochondria there in the mix too? Don’t get me wrong... some prescriptions are a godsend and lifesaver, but....nothing exceeds like excess. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:17pm |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:35pm India says Pfizer Covid vaccine not recommended for emergency use 'at this stage' https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-says-pfizer-covid-vaccine-not-recommended-for-emergency-use-at-this-stage-11612516438198.html 1 min read . Updated: 05 Feb 2021, 03:17 PM IST Written By Aparna Banerjea India's drug regulator committee on Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine says it noted side effects reported abroad and causality of events are being investigated The committee also says Pfizer did not propose any plan to generate safety and immunogenicity data in Indian population India's Central Drugs Standard Control Organization (CDSCO)'s expert committee on Friday said that it does not recommend granting permission for emergency use authorization of Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine in the country "at this stage." The CDSCO's Subject Expert Committee (SEC) noted that "incidents of palsy, anaphylaxis and other SAE’s have been reported during post-marketing and the causality of the events with the vaccine is being investigated." |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:48pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:35pm:
Basically the INdians put up some hurdles, Pfizer didn't want to go through them |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Gordon on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:51pm
Maybe they think it's made with bovine cells and they don't want it on religious grounds?
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Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:53pm rhino wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 12:25pm:
I didn't say anything about Australia. Neither did Spot. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:53pm:
Yeah that wasnt hard to figure out for anyone with half a brain, I too have a relative that has had the jab......... in England! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by rhino on Feb 16th, 2021 at 2:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:53pm:
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Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by rhino on Feb 16th, 2021 at 2:25pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:59pm:
haw haw ! good one Binky. Sure fooled me you super genius. Knock knock jokes next? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 2:55pm Gordon wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
It says The CDSCO's Subject Expert Committee (SEC) noted that "incidents of palsy, anaphylaxis and other SAE’s have been reported during post-marketing and the causality of the events with the vaccine is being investigated." |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 3:24pm
Latest news ABC 24.
25% of people in the UK have received the vaccine. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 16th, 2021 at 4:54pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:31am:
Good research thanks. I know a woman in England who is in her 80's. She has had both jabs. She is fine |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 5:42pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:00pm:
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Thomas bobby, God is able to accomplish miracles you know ! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1613424390/12#12 |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:06pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 11:02am:
This Dr SHERRI TENPENNY knows what this 'new' mRNA vaccine is, and she explains how the mRNA vaccine is so different, to the traditional RNA vaccine types. It is scary stuff. Quote:
The YT LINK was posted by bobby, here..... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1612783506/14#14 |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:13pm Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:06pm:
Yes - part of my Scary anti-vax video thread. But now we have this thread which tries to give the other side of the argument - the final solution of the Covid-19 question. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Yadda on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:44pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:13pm:
bobby, Two Q's for you. 1/ Did YOU watch the Dr SHERRI TENPENNY YT which you posted ? 2/ Do you intend to get one of these mRNA COVID vaccination shots ? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:56pm Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
Sorry Yadda,. I've been too busy saving Greggy's soul: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1612567786/180#183 Of course I saw the video. I haven't made up my mind yet about the vaccines. The mRNA ones are certainly scary if they go wrong. The reaction could be delayed until you get another strain of Corona virus. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bias_2012 on Feb 16th, 2021 at 7:22pm
You don't get a choice which vaccine. Get in early for Pfizer at public hospitals, or wait a while for the Oxford one
They're not likely to have both at the same time. Basically, you'll get what you're given |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2021 at 7:42pm Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 7:22pm:
Probably. Who knows? |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:25pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 7:42pm:
I would imagine you could choose. I am tending toward the Astra zenica one. It is English and stores at 4 degrees. The 4 degrees makes a big difference. Any normal fridge is ok for it. It is more likely to be in good condition when it is injected than one that needs -80 degrees. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:30pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:25pm:
Except a Smeg FAB38RCRAU model. |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by wombatwoody on Feb 16th, 2021 at 10:36pm
Pfizer bails out of India after country demands safety testing for COVID vaccine
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pfizer-bails-out-of-india-after-country-demands-safety-testing-for-covid-vaccine All 78 residents at a nursing home in central Spain have tested positive for Covid-19 after being given their first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and at least seven people have died, staff confirmed on Monday. https://www.rt.com/news/514303-deaths-pfizer-vaccine-covid-spain/ |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:28am wombatwoody wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 10:36pm:
It was demanded safety esting in an Indian setting, not safety testing overall And as for the second one. There was a COVID outbreak in the nursing home at the time of the vaccination program and as is well known you aren't protected until you get the 2nd vaccination |
Title: Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:30am Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 16th, 2021 at 8:25pm:
THey've thought of that ahead of time, |
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