Australians want to buy electric cars, but car makers say government policy blocks supply - red tape needs to be eliminated. ::) ::)

"Meanwhile, 75 per cent of new car sales by 2030 need to be electric for Australia to achieve net zero emissions by 2035, according to the latest report by the Climate Council."

Meanwhile we haven't seen their methodology in how they work that out. Because my calculations, and others, indicates that Australia is already below net zero. I have written to them for the methodology however they seem reluctant to share.

Looking at this report -
https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/net-zero-emissions-plummet-decade


They don't mention Australia's emissions but default to global emissions. They don't even mention a figure for net zero for Australia.

"Getting to net zero means we can still produce some emissions, as long as they are offset by processes that reduce greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere. For example, these could be things like planting new forests, or or drawdown technologies like direct air capture. The more emissions are reduced, the more carbon dioxide we need to remove from the atmosphere (this is called sequestration) to reach net zero. "

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/what-does-net-zero-emissions-mean/

You notice they don't put in any figures for Australia's current forests and rangelands. :o

"Since 2018, the proportion of Australians who would consider buying an electric vehicle as their next car has stayed at about 50 per cent, according to annual surveys commissioned by the Electric Vehicle Council."

Would consider and discard because they don't believe they are yet good enough? Would consider but discard because of price?

I don't think electric vehicles will take off
unless they are below $20K with a 10 year warranty on the battery.

I think the present limiter is on the filling points.  The lack of range is another factor.  Australians often drive long distances, distances that few electrical vehicles can presently attain unfortunately.  We need more research on battery capacity.  The car's range has to increased to be a real goer downunder.   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 1:49pm:

I don't think electric vehicles will take off unless they are below $20K with a 10 year warranty on the battery.

can you tow anything with an electric car do you know bobs?....I read where you cant tow and I presume that means trailers as well....they may not be for a country like this not for maybe another 20 30 years....

the thing I think about is how light they would need to be  they dont look like great road grippers to me... and to save the battery life  I am thinking they will do everything in their power to make the chassis lighter   all plastic maybe... :) :)

cods wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:55pm:

.I read where you cant tow and I presume that means trailers as well.

you do realise reading comments from dummies like Bobby or Lee on ozpol is lunacy ... right?

you should try other sources for your information.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/tesla-model-x-2017-tow-test-106452/

Not on this link, but the new tesla ute is said to be able to tow 6 tonnes. Not many of the current range of cars cars can tow that Cods

John Smith wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

you do realise reading comments from dummies like Bobby or Lee on ozpol is lunacy ... right?

That makes you a super lunatic as neither of us posted anything about towing. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

cods wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:55pm: .I read where you cant tow and I presume that means trailers as well. you do realise reading comments from dummies like Bobby or Lee on ozpol is lunacy ... right? you should try other sources for your information. https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/tesla-model-x-2017-tow-test-106452/ Not on this link, but the new tesla ute is said to be able to tow 6 tonnes. Not many of the current range of cars cars can tow that Cods

Smith -
you know that you're banned from this MRB?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1612043899

Who did they survey when announcing that Australians wanted to buy electric vehicles? I suspect that the surveys were done in the inner city latte lapping suburbs rather than in the areas most Australians live in.

No one I know wants to buy an electric vehicle, including myself. The only thing which would induce me is a a cost advantage and a range equivalent to a fossil fuel powered vehicle. There are huge problems with electric powered vehicles as regarding  battery replacement and disposal,  range of the vehicle and charging times. Australia is a different market, we do not have the population density of other countries and need to travel much greater distances. The current electric vehicle technology is just not applicable in this country.

Belgarion wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 9:34pm:

Who did they survey when announcing that Australians wanted to buy electric vehicles? I suspect that the surveys were done in the inner city latte lapping suburbs rather than in the areas most Australians live in.

Errr, that is where most Australians live, Belgarion.  Australia is the most urbanised society in the world with approximately 95+% living in urban areas.  Where do you think most Australians live?  Out in the Simpson Desert?  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21^st, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Belgarion wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 9:34pm: Who did they survey when announcing that Australians wanted to buy electric vehicles? I suspect that the surveys were done in the inner city latte lapping suburbs rather than in the areas most Australians live in. Errr, that is where most Australians live, Belgarion.  Australia is the most urbanised society in the world with approximately 95+% living in urban areas.  Where do you think most Australians live?  Out in the Simpson Desert?  ::) ::)

Most Australians don't live there Brian, but in the outer suburbs that require long commutes for work, school and other essentials. These people would have a totally different opinion on EVs than the inner city trendoids.  ::)

Belgarion wrote on Apr 21^st, 2021 at 1:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2021 at 1:40pm: Belgarion wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 9:34pm: Who did they survey when announcing that Australians wanted to buy electric vehicles? I suspect that the surveys were done in the inner city latte lapping suburbs rather than in the areas most Australians live in. Errr, that is where most Australians live, Belgarion.  Australia is the most urbanised society in the world with approximately 95+% living in urban areas.  Where do you think most Australians live?  Out in the Simpson Desert?  ::) ::) Most Australians don't live there Brian, but in the outer suburbs that require long commutes for work, school and other essentials. These people would have a totally different opinion on EVs than the inner city trendoids.  ::)

They may.  However we don't know and your assumption that you do, is just that, an assumption.  It is like your characterising all inner-city livers as "Latte sippers" and "trendoids" - just assumptions on your part.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

Victoria has 'worst electric vehicle policy in the world', business and environmental groups say :o

I am convinced that electric vehicles will replace ICE vehicles, and the sooner the better, but the article in the OP is more of the ABC's editorial agenda. Its not about EVs, its about making the government look bad in any way they can. VW wants government handouts? Normally, the ABC Leftists would call them capitalist pigs and be the first to say the Liberals were giving multinationals Australia's hard earned money.