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Title: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 3:03pm
[This was commenced in the General section and moved here by freediver on the evening of the 31st May, 2021. Mod.]
Brian Ross: Northofnorth is a sock. Here's why I'm not a sock, Brian... I have my opinion and I don't crave approval or agreement. But, now that you've brought it up... Who am I a sock of/for? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 4:17pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 3:03pm:
So, now you've made the accusation, Brian, as you might say, evidence please. Clearly you have none as I see you 'out' others (whether with evidence or not I can't tell). You mistake responsibility for power. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Bobby. on May 31st, 2021 at 4:26pm
He punished me too.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1600033097/150#153 Bobby, Quote:
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 4:31pm Bobby. wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 4:26pm:
I wouldn't worry about it, Bobby... It's a badge of honour. People like Brian Ross are the reason we need to defend democracy and the right to free speech. His determined use of misspellings reveals a lot about his dark side (as stupidly exposed as it is) that he doesn't realise. Brian indulges in argumentum ad hominem (note the spelling, Brian) in nearly all of his posts... Idiosyncratic hypocrisy. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 4:45pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 4:17pm:
Now another excuse required? Do you see any similarity between your behaviour and that of the apparatchiks of the Chinese regime? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Redmond Neck on May 31st, 2021 at 4:57pm
Mmmmmm
Bwian very rare for socks to have 14000 posts Tsk Tsk ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Sir Spot of Borg on May 31st, 2021 at 5:11pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 3:03pm:
Northofnorth is my sock Spot |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 5:35pm
SockofSock is my North.
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on May 31st, 2021 at 7:11pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 4:31pm:
He is a vain old unlettered fool. Witless, manic, confused, self-contradictory. It would be sad but for his cultivation of his vain stupidity. Look at his posts and you will see that vanity is his weakness which he actually cultivates. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on May 31st, 2021 at 7:18pm
It will be deleted by the sad old milk monitor so for the record (for all who are really not interested...)
Brian Ross wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 4:22pm:
You vain old totalitarian fccwit of a fool. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1600033097/155#155 I said it but it could have been any number of other sensible posters, all of whom are vilified by Brian the terribly confused old fool. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 7:38pm Frank wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 7:18pm:
I'm just waiting to read his evidence of 'sockness'... It's becoming a farcical pantomime. And who moderates the moderators? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 7:40pm
YOU do. If you don't 'like' the Mod.....don't post in their MRB.
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 7:42pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 7:40pm:
How is that moderation of the moderators? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 7:46pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 7:42pm:
Simple. If you don't like the product, the best response is not to use the product. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by rhino on May 31st, 2021 at 7:58pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 7:46pm:
The board you moderate is not your "product" Ozzie. Lol. Quote:
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 7:58pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 7:46pm:
Well, this is a topical issue, given what Zuckerberg and Dorsey (et al) are facing, giving the arbitrary way they moderate posts and users of their respective products. Or do you think moderators should be allowed to make false allegations and be unaccountable? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 8:04pm
Anyone who makes false allegations of a personal kind (and there are plenty here all over OzPol who do that every day) ultimately pay the price. It may not be the price you have in mind but they know their bullshit is known to be bullshit, even among their own 'gang.'
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 8:06pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:04pm:
So 'the gang' moderates the moderators? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 8:09pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:06pm:
You have misread my clumsy words. By gang....I mean their own little tribe and we have a very obvious little tribe here. One of their Members even admits they 'gang' up to bully. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 8:12pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:09pm:
No, I think you've expressed it well enough... What I think you're saying is that the moderators can make false allegations, then act on them and, if 'their gang' doesn't like it, then... what? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 8:28pm
Oh...their gang always likes them as that is the cost of being part of the pissy gang. Bullies are like that.
Anyway, I get your point. Bottom line is that no-one moderates the moderators, including the GMods....we have GMods here (eg Annie Anthrax) who have not been near the place for years. We have GMods here who refuse to act on the most obvious of rule breaches unless the alleged rule breaker is one they do not 'like' for whatever reason. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Dnarever on May 31st, 2021 at 8:28pm Redmond Neck wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 4:57pm:
The other week there was a topic about 4 people who were apparently socks - they had a combined 250,000 posts ? Included all members in the top 15 posters by volume including the highest and another in the top 5. Yes it was a truly ridiculous claim. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Dnarever on May 31st, 2021 at 8:30pm
Much too far north has been a member for well over a decade.
It is getting to be a tradition to accuse everyone of being a sock. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 8:32pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:28pm:
Interesting... So on this forum, the moderators are not bound by any rules of evidence of any kind and can act in a totally arbitrary way, including making false allegations to justify arbitrary actions. Does that remind you of anywhere? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 8:38pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:32pm:
Yes. I am one of them (only here in Relationships) but I have set out some Rules for those who post here. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 8:41pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:38pm:
Have you acted (or would you act) in a totally arbitrary way because, say, you felt like it? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 8:42pm
I hope not.
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 8:43pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:42pm:
So you may have? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 8:52pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:43pm:
I have banned people who have been guilty of doxxing or have been obvious stupid socks posting for effect and nothing more. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 9:00pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:52pm:
Yes... Back to socks... What method do you apply to determine whether they are socks? For example, how would you differentiate between spouses posting separately as opposed to one poster posing as two or more? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 9:03pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 9:00pm:
If you look at those I have banned here, you will see who the obvious socks are. Further, I have been around these Forums for 15 years plus and I know who these sock characters are. Curry Muncher for example is an old sock from another place. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 9:05pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Sure... I've been around a few forums for years too. But, from what I'm reading, there are no methods for determining who is a sock or not, which makes the allegation open to abuse. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 9:07pm
Yes it does. But, I have more than enough experience to know that I nail the right target.
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 31st, 2021 at 9:08pm NorthOfNorth wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 3:03pm:
The miscreant sock is full of holes. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 9:16pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 9:07pm:
Yes... And you'd probably know that's an old defence for cops as well (usually when the evidence doesn't fit the alleged perp). I understand if a poster doxes someone (or attempts to), that would be easily recognised. The rest is arbitrary and it would depend on the moderators' comprehension of responsibility as opposed to power, which is where I'm going with this as it is an issue we try to instill in those who are in a position of authority, being that they have responsibility over subordinates, not power. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2021 at 9:30pm
If it is any consolation, I have never concluded that you are a sock. I do not know why Mr Ross has come to that conclusion and it is not for me to defend or condemn his decision.
I think he is wrong, but what I think does not matter. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on May 31st, 2021 at 9:49pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 9:30pm:
No need for consolation. I'm light years from being offended. But it has given me a platform for inquiry into the primal psyche when it comes to exercising unaccountable 'power'. If it consoles anyone here, the world's most famous 'sock' was Jawaharlal Nehru who routinely wrote pseudonymous 'letters to the editor' criticising himself when he believed that newly independent Indians were not criticising him enough as the prime minister of India. Of course, his reasons were noble: to teach Indians about democracy and their right to free speech. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 1st, 2021 at 1:07am
Socko Ad Excretum!!!
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 1st, 2021 at 1:08am Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 8:52pm:
Where is your evidence leading to proof that they are socks? Assertion doesn't hack it, consigliere. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on Jun 1st, 2021 at 10:48am
Everyone is a 'sock' since no-one here is the actual person named in Ozpolitic. Everyone is posting under a pseudonym ie as a 'sock' of their true identity.
This is a veritable sock drawer (yes, with a lot of odd socks and half pairs). |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 1st, 2021 at 11:20am Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 10:48am:
Yes and I think the obsession with eliminating 'socks' is ridiculous. And, yes, everyone here is an approximation at best of a 'real' person whose true identity must be protected. Given that moderators, or anyone else, cannot identify (short of posters' 'outing' themselves) who is a 'sock' and who is not, why even bother attempting to enforce an unprovable allegation? If spouses or friends join a forum who post similar opinions to the 'target' poster... So what? And, seriously, when people hold sophisticated or long-held ideals or beliefs, they're highly unlikely to be 'turned' by the numbers against them, let alone that often an idea has the advocate as much or more than the advocate has the idea. Rules based on unprovable allegations do not enhance the quality of a forum; they merely provide narcissists and petty 'control freaks' a penny's experience of exercising arbitrary 'power'. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on Jun 1st, 2021 at 11:58am NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 11:20am:
Ozpolitic = sockeroos.... 8-) Elsewhere in the control freak news: https://www.cleverism.com/7-signs-of-a-control-freak/ Brian aces them all. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Agnes on Jun 1st, 2021 at 12:46pm Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 10:48am:
absolutely correct |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by John Smith on Jun 1st, 2021 at 4:59pm Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 10:48am:
you mean Sore End isn't your real name? ::) |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on Jun 1st, 2021 at 10:37pm John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 4:59pm:
Calabrian wit... the fruit of cousin marriage. Go and ... er....tend ( ahem...) to the goats, Gino, there's a good boy. Get your jiggles out.... |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by BigP on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 4:25pm Redmond Neck wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 4:57pm:
I wish I had a pair of socks that lasted that long |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by John Smith on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 4:28pm Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 10:37pm:
as opposed to the dutch who marry their mums ... ::) |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Cu Chulainn on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:55pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 9:07pm:
Umm, I beg to differ and I have told you on numerous occasions that you were wrong. Your "picks" might be slightly better than guessing I suppose but don't let that go to your head, you are not the sleuth you think you are. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:05pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:55pm:
I'll back my judgement any time. You are easily fooled. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:15pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:05pm:
Link? (See how stupid you are?) |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:28pm Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:15pm:
My judgement. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Cu Chulainn on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:29pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:05pm:
;D You'll back your judgement over my access to ip addresses and tools like traceroute? Talk about easily fooled, you fool yourself and you can't see it, that's what you call an ego, sorry to burst your bubble. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:38pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:29pm:
Yes. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:40pm
I can ask you a series of questions which will prove how inadequate your IT stuff is. You up for that? Direct questions...you give a direct, relevant responsive answer, no prevarications.
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Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Cu Chulainn on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:46pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:40pm:
Ah, you want another Aussie inquisition? Nah, not playing your games. If you have something, post it or don't. Here's the thing though, you just admitted to being able to "guess" more accurately than tracerouting the ip address. That's like taking the word of superstition over observable fact. Are you your own religion, Aussie? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:46pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:40pm:
Socrates and his 'twenty questions'? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:48pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:46pm:
I'll back my judgement over your claimed IT cleverness, and you just backed off from the challenge. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Cu Chulainn on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:50pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:48pm:
Piss off you dick. If you have something you can safely post, post it. Don't bugger around. Whatever you decide will not change the fact you think your gut feelings override fact. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:53pm
My judgement is far better than your
I repeat..... I can ask you a series of questions which will prove how inadequate your IT stuff is. You up for that? Direct questions...you give a direct, relevant responsive answer, no prevarications. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Mjölnir on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:56pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:53pm:
See? Your gut feelings override all though, fact, reality. Aussie, a religion unto himself. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:00pm
I repeat....
I can ask you a series of questions which will prove how inadequate your IT stuff is. You up for that? Direct questions...you give a direct, relevant responsive answer, no prevarications. Take it up or run away with your IT smart arse tail between your legs. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Bobby. on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:01pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:50pm:
Careful Set, Aussie is so tough he even bans Global Moderators. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:05pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:00pm:
Do you know you can't abuse people into paying you respect? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Mjölnir on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:13pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:00pm:
I know, you're your own echo chamber. If you have something to say, say it. I'm not playing your games. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Aussie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:13pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:05pm:
My challenge has zero to do with respect. Setanta has no respect for me whatsoever, and I have zero respect for his claimed IT smarts on identifying socks. Setanta: I can ask you a series of questions which will prove how inadequate your IT stuff is. You up for that? Direct questions...you give a direct, relevant responsive answer, no prevarications. Now...I am logging out. Have other things to do. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Mjölnir on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:15pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:13pm:
You getting your viagra on? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:24pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:13pm:
Who is this 'Setanta' you speak of? |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Mjölnir on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:26pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:24pm:
ego est If you hit quote on one of my posts you will see my original account name. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:31pm Setanta wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:26pm:
Yes, well that point I'm making is that the current name you choose is your identity on this forum and that should be respected. Anything less is belligerent contempt. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:51pm Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:13pm:
Link? Anyway, he's not alone. (use this post as a link if anyone asks you....) |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Mjölnir on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:59pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:31pm:
Meh, I was Setanta or "Set" for short for many years until a short while ago, I don't hide who I am. Cu Chulainn is my sock, except everyone knows it's me. I use it when I don't want to hear the moanings of the aggrieved I get via PM as a GMod. I tried to make it as obvious as possible, Setanta/Cu Chulainn, Irish mythology. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:03pm Setanta wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
Aww, sock, schmock... I have no problem with posters identifying in different ways... Isn't that just human nature.? We all contain multitudes. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Setanta on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:09pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:03pm:
So un-PC to deny people their preferred nouns. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:16pm Setanta wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:09pm:
Ahh, no... I think that's PC. I'm respecting the rights of forum members to identify themselves as they please. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by Setanta on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:22pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:16pm:
I can see that. I was kinda adding to what you said. Aussie is pretty PC. It's sarcasm aimed at Aussie. |
Title: Re: Sockness unto Crap! Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:31pm Setanta wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:22pm:
Ah, OK, that makes sense. Cheers |
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