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Message started by athos on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm

Title: First British slaves were Irish
Post by athos on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm


The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxon elite to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.
A huge difference should be noticed between the British and Irish colonists who were forcibly brought to the largest British Gulag in the history of the world called Australia.
The British were detained as convicted criminals, while the Irish were prisoners of war or dissidents fighting to liberate their country from British occupation (Robert Hughes "The fatal Shore" https://www.amazon.com.au/Fatal-Shore-Robert-Hughes/dp/0394506685)
From this perspective, the term Australian "Anglo-Celtic population" is morally unacceptable.
There is evidence of a large number of crimes and retaliation against the Irish by the Anglo-Saxon invaders and in Australia where the Irish have long been considered second-class citizens.
The British did not use Africans only as slaves.
The first British slaves in America were actually Irish.


„27. In August 2019, Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris marked the 400th anniversary of the first recorded import of enslaved Africans to Virginia by calling for a showdown with the "history of slavery and institutional racism" in her country.

Two days later, frequent Fox News contributor and right-wing author Janie Johnson (who has about 210,000 followers on Twitter) tweeted a rhetorical response to Harris, saying "What about the Irish as America's FIRST slaves?" He suggests that the Irish were slaves. in British colonial America before the African people "

When we think of slavery in America, we think of black slaves brought over from Africa. They were not alone. For a time the Irish were also enslaved. Some historian try to sugar-coat the practice by referring to them as “indentured servants,” but this is a distortion of reality. These people were slaves in every sense of the word.

The Irish slaves were sent to America on English ships. They included men, women and very young children. Like black slaves they were harshly treated, especially when they disobeyed. They were commonly suspended by their hands by their owners who then set their hands and feet on fire. Some were burned to death, decapitated and had their heads set on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to others.

The practice began long before America gained its independence from England. It started during the reigns James II and Charles II and was encouraged by Oliver Cromwell. The first shipment of slaves, which  arrived in the Americas in 1619, was composed of 100 white children. James II sold some 30,000 Irish prisoners to be used as slaves in the New World. In 1625 he issued a proclamation which required that Irish political prisoners be sent to the West Indies. By the middle of the 17th century Irish slaves were being sold to Antigua and Montserrat. So many Irish slaves were sent to Montserrat that they made up 70% of the population.

Between 1641 and 1652 more than 500,000 Irish were killed outright by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Because of the slave trade the population of Ireland dropped from 1,500,000 to 600,000 in that one decade. Men were not allowed to take their wives and children with them resulting in a massive number of homeless women and children. England “solved” the problem by selling them off as well. In the 1650s more than 100,000 children between the ages of 10 and 14 were sold to slaveholders in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. Some 30,000 men and women were also sold. In 1656 Cromwell ordered that 2,000 children be sent to Jamaica as slaves for the English settlers.

After the Irish Rebellion of 1798, thousands of Irish were sold to America and Australia. Abuses were rampant. One British ship dumped 1,302 slaves into the ocean so that the crew would have more food to eat.

During this time slaves from Africa were just starting to be brought to the New World. As badly as they were treated, the Irish were actually treated worse. This was in part due to British anti-Catholicism but also because the black slaves cost more by a factor of ten. (Blacks were sold for 50 sterling while the Irish seldom went for more than 5 sterling. Mistreatment of the slaves, even if it resulted in death, was not considered criminal.

The practice continued until the British decided to put an end to it in 1839 but that did not put an end to the mistreatment of Irish children.

Many Irish orphans were rounded up and sent by train to agricultural areas to live with farmers. Few records were kept regarding the trains, but estimate run between 400,000 and 600,000 were relocated between 1854 and 1929.

Young girls were often forced into prostitution which, although illegal, was usually ignored. In some cities it is estimated that as many as 75% of the men suffered from some form of sexually transmitted disease. In 1832, a group of women formed the American Female Guardian Society to take care of the girl prostitutes. The group soon started taking in both boys and girls and later established 12 industrial schools where children were taught a trade and skills to support themselves.


Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:43pm
Not only but also....



The Barbary slave trade refers to slave markets on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, which included the Ottoman provinces of Algeria, Tunisia and Tripolitania and the independent sultanate of Morocco, between the 16th and middle of the 18th century. The Ottoman provinces in North Africa were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, but in reality they were mostly autonomous.

European slaves were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to the Netherlands, Ireland and the southwest of Britain, as far north as Iceland and into the eastern Mediterranean.

The Ottoman eastern Mediterranean was the scene of intense piracy.[1] As late as the 18th century, piracy continued to be a "consistent threat to maritime traffic in the Aegean".[2]








And the Muslims and Africans ad Asias are STILL trading slaves.  Tsk, tsk  ::) ::)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_century#/media/File:Maps_Global_Slavery_Index_2019.jpg


Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by athos on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?



Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:59pm
Celts are not just the Irish, Fu Manchu.  Asterix and Obelisk were also celts (gauls were a branch of the celts)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts#/media/File:Celtic_expansion_in_Europe.png

And the Anglo Saxons were from Denmark, pushed out by the Vikings who eventually followed them to Britain a few hundred years later and established Danelaw across Eastern England.  Another few hundred years later came the Normans who were also Danes who had conquered Normandy,  similarly to Danelaw in England.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:07pm
The Celts were a central European ethnic group...

DNA technology reveals that genetically many central Europeans, being: the Swiss, Austrians, Northern Italians (Tiroleans) are to this day of Celtic descent.

And then there's the Bretons of Brittany, France...

Celtic DNA is significantly detectable throughout France, Spain, Britain and Ireland.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:14pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:07pm:
The Celts were a central European ethnic group...

DNA technology reveals that genetically many central Europeans, being: the Swiss, Austrians, Northern Italians (Tiroleans) are to this day of Celtic descent.

And then there's the Bretons of Brittany, France...

Celtic DNA is significantly detectable throughout France, Spain, Britain and Ireland.


And the USA and Australia and New Zealand and South Africa...

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:14pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:07pm:
The Celts were a central European ethnic group...

DNA technology reveals that genetically many central Europeans, being: the Swiss, Austrians, Northern Italians (Tiroleans) are to this day of Celtic descent.

And then there's the Bretons of Brittany, France...

Celtic DNA is significantly detectable throughout France, Spain, Britain and Ireland.


And the USA and Australia and New Zealand and South Africa...

Yes...

It was the Romans that forced their westward movement away from its empire, ultimately to become identified as peoples of the British Isles.

The genetic 'homeland' of all Celts, however, is central Europe.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by athos on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocides on Irish people and around the world.
:)


Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
:)

Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by athos on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:30pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
:)

Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Again this time IQ<7
:)

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:33pm

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
:)

Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Again this time IQ<7
:)

Yes, I know you can't mention the Tiananmen Square massacre... You'd have a broken bottle smashed into your face if you did.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:33pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
:)

Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Again this time IQ<7
:)

Yes, I know you can't mention the Tiananmen Square massacre... You'd have a broken bottle smashed into your face if you did.

IF he's a lucky, jammy bastard, that is. 

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by chimera on Jun 12th, 2021 at 12:14pm
The first British were Britons, descended from blacks.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/cheddar-man-s-dna-shows-the-first-britons-were-black-20180207-p4yzm8.html

When de whitey come by boats, dey is slaves to ole' man sure 'nough.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:48pm
The first British slaves were anyone they could get.. slavery was common back then - however - it was Britain which first banned and then enforced action against the slave trade, making it against the law and attacking slavers.

As for the Irish - an ancestor of mine held St Patrick slave and then released him to the ever-lasting agony of the Emerald Isle and its inhabitants, given that the Roman Heresy forbad priest marriage and thus it became a refuge for many boy-luvvahs.  Anyone can make a mistake...

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:49pm

chimera wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 12:14pm:
The first British were Britons, descended from blacks.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/cheddar-man-s-dna-shows-the-first-britons-were-black-20180207-p4yzm8.html

When de whitey come by boats, dey is slaves to ole' man sure 'nough.



Apparently everyone was Black at the start - don't ask me... but Vikings took slaves, just about everyone did.

The thing is - it's no acceptable in the modern age, Chicomophiles notwithstanding... the Stalinist concept that every individual is an absolute vassal to the State is not our way... sorry 'bout that.  To permit such a thing is nothing more than to promote absolute megalomania in those given the duty of handling governance of a nation.... nothing new.....

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by chimera on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:19pm

Romans had Britannia, Angles had Angle-land and in 1474 Scots wrote of "Gret Britanee" , "Great Britain" from 1707. The first English slaves were the Welsh, and the first Welsh slaves were Welsh. Slavs were always slaves.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.

In 1922, the American philosopher George Santayana enthused: ‘Never since the days of heroic Greece has the world had such a sweet, just, boyish master. It will be a black day for the human race when scientific blackguards, churls and fanatics manage to supplant him.’



Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:39pm

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.

In 1922, the American philosopher George Santayana enthused: ‘Never since the days of heroic Greece has the world had such a sweet, just, boyish master. It will be a black day for the human race when scientific blackguards, churls and fanatics manage to supplant him.’


Then Frank was born and everything turned to sh1t.

25% of Irish people are still enslaved in Northern Ireland.

Frank spent his life on his knees to John Bull and will continue this until his cadaver is carted away.

The real question is whether Frank is a traitor or a quisling or both.

Or ... is Frank a Judas goat?

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by issuevoter on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm
It was easy for London to justify subjugating Ireland and Scotland. They were Papists, and as such would always provide an avenue of invasion by the Catholic Kings of Europe. It is true the English were cruel in Ireland and Scotland, but no crueler than the Spanish and French to any Protestant.

However, this thread is not about cruelty, it is another festering of Athos at the fact that he has to live in an Anglo dominated culture, and it eats him up inside.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:39pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.

In 1922, the American philosopher George Santayana enthused: ‘Never since the days of heroic Greece has the world had such a sweet, just, boyish master. It will be a black day for the human race when scientific blackguards, churls and fanatics manage to supplant him.’


Then Frank was born and everything turned to sh1t.

25% of Irish people are still enslaved in Northern Ireland.


Sub-saharan Africa should be sold to the Swiss for one dollar for 99 years with an option for two extensions.

All of Arab north Africa, the Levant, Syria, Iraq, Arabia should be under Israeli protectorate until they grow up (for ever, by that measure).

India, Pakiland, Bang-a-dash, Burma -  British rule for another 200 years. SE Asia back to French and Dutch civilising forces, Phillippines to the US, PNG and Pacific micro states under Australian management.

Latin America back to Spanish and Portugese control. Mexico unded Texan rule.  China under joint Korean, Japanese, British rule.


The dusty, dark and resentful races are far from maturity.   It was  cruel and dangerous to cut them loose before they  were ready. The UN should step in and appoint the right guardians for them.






Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by The Heartless Felon on Dec 25th, 2021 at 5:53am

issuevoter wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm:
It was easy for London to justify subjugating Ireland and Scotland. They were Papists, and as such would always provide an avenue of invasion by the Catholic Kings of Europe. It is true the English were cruel in Ireland and Scotland, but no crueler than the Spanish and French to any Protestant.

However, this thread is not about cruelty, it is another festering of Athos at the fact that he has to live in an Anglo dominated culture, and it eats him up inside.


The Earl of Pembroke led his troops ashore in Leinster in 1159, thus beginning England's Thousand Year O'Reich. That was hundreds of years before the Catholic/Protestant split...

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 25th, 2021 at 7:41am

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.


Fook orff, old boy, we're full.

You Anglophiles are all the same. Take your raincoat and your big bag of lollies to the East Mills tea rooms.

Maybe you can coax Cods away for a grope.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by issuevoter on Dec 25th, 2021 at 8:55am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 5:53am:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm:
It was easy for London to justify subjugating Ireland and Scotland. They were Papists, and as such would always provide an avenue of invasion by the Catholic Kings of Europe. It is true the English were cruel in Ireland and Scotland, but no crueler than the Spanish and French to any Protestant.

However, this thread is not about cruelty, it is another festering of Athos at the fact that he has to live in an Anglo dominated culture, and it eats him up inside.


The Earl of Pembroke led his troops ashore in Leinster in 1159, thus beginning England's Thousand Year O'Reich. That was hundreds of years before the Catholic/Protestant split...


True enough, but subjugation of Ireland was not merely a continuation of Pembroke's initial invasion, it was a land grab and an important source oak for English warships, but it was all justified by religion.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:21am

issuevoter wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm:
It was easy for London to justify subjugating Ireland and Scotland. They were Papists, and as such would always provide an avenue of invasion by the Catholic Kings of Europe. It is true the English were cruel in Ireland and Scotland, but no crueler than the Spanish and French to any Protestant.

However, this thread is not about cruelty, it is another festering of Athos at the fact that he has to live in an Anglo dominated culture, and it eats him up inside.


He's a rice-eater. We're wheat men, a white bread nation. We dominate and subjugate, it's just how we are.

Your rice-heads are collectivist, hive-mind types. Nice chaps, most harmless. They can't say no. Ask a rice-eater for his liver. He'll say, well...

Further down you'll find your lentil crowd, the dahl set. There's no mistake the Egyptians kept their slaves fed on lentils. The Kshatriyas did the same in India, then the Mogals. Lentils turn a man into a mahatma. Lentils are the food for fakirs.

Then there's your corn boys. The Mayans started that one, then the Aztecs. Your Americans are flying the flag today. Corn starch, corn syrup, Coca Cola. America's a nation of corn-fed fatties.

Scandinavians? Rollmops. They're a breed of picklers. Long Winters, you see. They're covered in ice half the year, so they save. They're tightwads. It's all about culture, the bacteria they ferment their food in. They're as harmless as the rice-eaters, but they don't breed. There's only a few thousand left, they'll be extinct before you know it.

The Romans knew the score. If you want an empire, feed them bread, as every schoolboy knows.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:33pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.


Fook orff, old boy, we're full.

You Anglophiles are all the same. Take your raincoat and your big bag of lollies to the East Mills tea rooms.

Maybe you can coax Cods away for a grope.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSy8_THBm-sxzkF_Lu_lnQ7JFB3i3AUX8Vaqg&usqp=CAU

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:34pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.


Fook orff, old boy, we're full.

You Anglophiles are all the same. Take your raincoat and your big bag of lollies to the East Mills tea rooms.

Maybe you can coax Cods away for a grope.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSy8_THBm-sxzkF_Lu_lnQ7JFB3i3AUX8Vaqg&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGxmgmMdPixWbvr6k-VD1f3EH_1G3jRxFYcw&usqp=CAU


Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 25th, 2021 at 3:25pm

Frank wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.


Fook orff, old boy, we're full.

You Anglophiles are all the same. Take your raincoat and your big bag of lollies to the East Mills tea rooms.

Maybe you can coax Cods away for a grope.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSy8_THBm-sxzkF_Lu_lnQ7JFB3i3AUX8Vaqg&usqp=CAU


Just so. Look at us, old boy, proud pioneers, advancing, exploring, planting our flag for Mother.

Those voluptuous, Rubinesque Darkies don't look too happy bleeding away, with their brains shot out. You see?

Boongs. Hunters and gatherers. No match for a wheat-man. You picklers could learn a thing or two from us, no?

Vast lands - continents - razed, cultivated and sold to the highest bidder. You cheese-eaters poke away at your little plots for generations, grasping on til grim death.

We Britishers stride in, test the wind and make an offer, take it or leave it. It's our world, old boy. They don't call us the Anglosphere for nothing.

Wake me up if you lot ever make an empire. I won't hold my breath.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 25th, 2021 at 3:43pm

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:39pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.

In 1922, the American philosopher George Santayana enthused: ‘Never since the days of heroic Greece has the world had such a sweet, just, boyish master. It will be a black day for the human race when scientific blackguards, churls and fanatics manage to supplant him.’


Then Frank was born and everything turned to sh1t.

25% of Irish people are still enslaved in Northern Ireland.


Sub-saharan Africa should be sold to the Swiss for one dollar for 99 years with an option for two extensions.

All of Arab north Africa, the Levant, Syria, Iraq, Arabia should be under Israeli protectorate until they grow up (for ever, by that measure).

India, Pakiland, Bang-a-dash, Burma -  British rule for another 200 years. SE Asia back to French and Dutch civilising forces, Phillippines to the US, PNG and Pacific micro states under Australian management.

Latin America back to Spanish and Portugese control. Mexico unded Texan rule.  China under joint Korean, Japanese, British rule.


The dusty, dark and resentful races are far from maturity.   It was  cruel and dangerous to cut them loose before they  were ready. The UN should step in and appoint the right guardians for them.


Swiss? Israelis? The Spanish?

Come come. Leave the Swiss tinkering with their clocks. Let the Desert Wanderers have it out with the Muselman. The Spanish?

Time for siesta, isn't it? I'm not sure what world you're in, old boy, but there's only one empire in town, and that's ours.

Feel free to have a jolly wank over our propaganda, dear, but you do know it's not intended as pornography, yes?

You're meant to look on in awe, not finger yourself.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by mothra on Dec 26th, 2021 at 5:33am

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:55pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:39pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
For more than 200 years,  Britain’s empire was a source of passionate national pride, and also the admiration and envy of foreigners.

In 1922, the American philosopher George Santayana enthused: ‘Never since the days of heroic Greece has the world had such a sweet, just, boyish master. It will be a black day for the human race when scientific blackguards, churls and fanatics manage to supplant him.’


Then Frank was born and everything turned to sh1t.

25% of Irish people are still enslaved in Northern Ireland.


Sub-saharan Africa should be sold to the Swiss for one dollar for 99 years with an option for two extensions.

All of Arab north Africa, the Levant, Syria, Iraq, Arabia should be under Israeli protectorate until they grow up (for ever, by that measure).

India, Pakiland, Bang-a-dash, Burma -  British rule for another 200 years. SE Asia back to French and Dutch civilising forces, Phillippines to the US, PNG and Pacific micro states under Australian management.

Latin America back to Spanish and Portugese control. Mexico unded Texan rule.  China under joint Korean, Japanese, British rule.


The dusty, dark and resentful races are far from maturity.   It was  cruel and dangerous to cut them loose before they  were ready. The UN should step in and appoint the right guardians for them.


I said in a recent post challenging Valkie on his absolutely abhorent views that he was the second worst person on OzPol. Second only to Frank.

And my! Do we have it here in spades.

I honestly don't think i've ever read a more inflammatory, hateful, condescending, elitist, supremacist, brain-washed and utterly tone deaf comment than this on any platform. Ever. Although i haven't read Mein Kampf.

It's beyond my understanding that  a person in 2021, with all we know, can think these things let alone have the utter lack of shame and embarrassment to admit to thinking them. I know this is an anonymous forum bit still.

And nobody besides Mustapha has challenged him on it! Astonishing!

Frank, you're an old man. You're dying. Just so you know, your thoughts are dying with you. You've raged, raged, raged against the dyingof the light but alas, you're snuffed. Nobody buys your crap anymore. We've moved well on.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by mothra on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:54am

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


The UK discovered Ireland as a source of slaves and as a target for terrorism by the UK military and its quislings.

Frank is genetically evolved with thick calluses on his knees and a bowed posture as a foot servant, quisling, and voluntary slave to people with weapons and power.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 26th, 2021 at 10:39am

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.



Which sums up neatly what is wrong with a lot of university education.  There are some ideas so absurd that only a intellectual could believe them, as Orwell noted decades ago. And things have gone steadily worse since then - even you could land a degree.

(You seem very smug about your Bachelor of post-colonial knitwear studies.)

Btw, the claim was made by a clasics graduate of Baliol (est. 1263),  Oxford.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 26th, 2021 at 10:42am
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Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Fuzzball on Dec 26th, 2021 at 11:49am

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 10:39am:
(You seem very smug about your Bachelor of post-colonial knitwear sudies.)



Love it!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:31pm

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


How would you know? You don't have a University degree.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 26th, 2021 at 2:24pm

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 10:39am:
(You seem very smug about your Bachelor of post-colonial knitwear studies.)



Love it!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


You laugh, hater???


Welcome to the BA (Hons) Hand Embroidery degree course taught at the Royal School of Needlework.

Using contemporary approaches to traditional hand embroidery techniques, the Royal School of Needlework degree course is your springboard to a creative career in fashion, interiors or textile art.
https://royal-needlework.org.uk/degree/

Contemporary approaches, don't you know, none of that old white males' wives' colonialist stuff. Oh no!







At Cornell they'll teach you, for a fee, how to climb trees:

PE 1657 - Tree Climbing

Fall, spring. 1 credit. S-U grades only.

Course fee charged. All equipment is included in course fee. No experience necessary.

Whether you are a rain forest canopy researcher, an arborist, or just a kid at heart, everyone loves to climb trees. Recall the excitement and your sense of adventure when you first crawled into the branches to look inside a bird’s nest. Then you swung from limb to limb without a thought of ropes and harnesses. But what about that big tree down the street you always wanted to climb, but couldn’t reach the first branch? Cornell Outdoor Education’s Tree Climbing course will teach you how to get up into the canopy of any tree, to move around, even to climb from one tree to another without touching the ground. This course will teach you how to use ropes and technical climbing gear to reach the top of any tree, to move around, and even to climb from tree to tree without returning to the ground. All equipment is included in the course fee.

https://courses.cornell.edu/preview_course_nopop.php?catoid=12&coid=95399

They'll make a monkey of you, one way or another, if you let them.  Look a Mothy, what they did to they/them/zi.
Tsk, tsk   ::) ::)




Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 26th, 2021 at 2:53pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:31pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


How would you know? You don't have a University degree.


Mother Trucker Lisa Jones aspires to completing her elementary education once she gets over the fetish of jumping into the boots of BMWs in the hope of winning a tryst with the driver.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Gnads on Dec 26th, 2021 at 3:06pm

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
:)

So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocides on Irish people and around the world.
:)


Strike 3 for idiocy…… you’re out Chicken Duck Cat.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 27th, 2021 at 1:58am

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


Clearly a university education does not make you the final arbiter....  there are countless other views.....

Sorry 'bout that.........

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by mothra on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:16am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:31pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


How would you know? You don't have a University degree.


Indeed. I have 3. And i didn't even need one to know that it's spelled "source', not 'sauce', like you.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by John Smith on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:23am
only a moron like frank would be surprised that a needlework school offers embroidery as a course ::) ::)

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by mothra on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:59am

John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:23am:
only a moron like frank would be surprised that a needlework school offers embroidery as a course ::) ::)



Frank's just butt-hurt that academia has moved on from when it was represented exclusively by old white men. Now all sorts of people can apply, they've stretched Frank's world view to breaking point.


Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Frank on Dec 27th, 2021 at 9:06am

mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:23am:
only a moron like frank would be surprised that a needlework school offers embroidery as a course ::) ::)



Frank's just butt-hurt that academia has moved on from when it was represented exclusively by old white men. Now all sorts of people can apply, they've stretched Frank's world view to breaking point.



;D ;D :D :D

Moved on to gender studies and knitting circles. A Bachelor degree in contemporary needlework. Can do Honours.

All shall be intellectuals, like Gino and Mother!  Progress!!


Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by athos on Mar 31st, 2022 at 5:39pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:31pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


How would you know? You don't have a University degree.


People could also be ignorant with a university degree.

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 31st, 2022 at 6:09pm

athos wrote on Mar 31st, 2022 at 5:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:31pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


How would you know? You don't have a University degree.


People could also be ignorant with a university degree.



Most are - they're called idiots savants ....strait jacketed in their learning and squeezed through like mince in a sausage machine...

Title: Re: First British slaves were Irish
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 31st, 2022 at 6:11pm

mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:31pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 9:10am:
The problem with Africa is not that Europeans, especially the British were once in charge but that they no longer are.

This is just too obvious.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-boris-archive-africa-is-a-mess-but-we-can-t-blame-colonialism


Nobody with a university education would make that claim.


How would you know? You don't have a University degree.


Indeed. I have 3. And i didn't even need one to know that it's spelled "source', not 'sauce', like you.



It doesn't show.............................. your arguments are so typecast, hidebound and stultifying that nobody really listens..... trotting out pat phrases and assumptions is a hallmark of many 'educated' people.... got all the answers but none of the solutions in many cases.

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