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Title: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!
Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0 |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/ Oh look, he's awell known quack. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:20pm |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:
That's your best come back is it mucus ?? :D LOL Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack :D LOL Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:45pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:
Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:07pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:45pm:
Don't worry about that other website or the AMA mafia or the ABC shills, just tell us where is reasoning is flawed ?? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:08pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:07pm:
I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:24pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:
Forget about that site. Just tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?? Surely it is not that hard :D LOL |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Belgarion on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm
Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why do medical personnel wear them as a matter of course? ::)
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:37pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:24pm:
First the paper he quoted was about influenza not Covid. Yes the flu transmits via aerosol, but it also transmits via fomite transmission. I also note this paragprah on the paper he posted "Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group." In other words, the evidence is weak and cant be controlled for imperfect mask use. And he missed this paragprah from the conclusion "We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility (Figure 2). However, as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched." What I suspect is happening is not through the face masks not working but by people not wearing them properly or combining them with other forms of hygeine control. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm
Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4 "Although surgical masks offer little protection from inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times Viewpoint www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921 in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets (>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm) from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly, surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of 23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant. There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings. Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of Intramural Research, National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, USA |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:57pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm:
They stop and liquids and spit falling into the patient during operating procedures. They don't stop the small size vapour particles from floating away into the room. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:02pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:
Wow so my refutation involves peer reviewed studies, yours is just look at his galsses. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:05pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:02pm:
so where does the water vapour come from to steam up his glasses mucus ?? his arse ?? :D LOL this is what you really need to stop any contamination. Far cry from a paper mask :D LOL ![]() |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by JaSin. on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:08pm
I always wear a mask when entering a Bank.
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:15pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:
When you tried the same experiment yourself, what happened? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Belgarion on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:57pm:
That is exactly what they do. Masks reduce the spread of the droplets that the virus hitches a ride on. ::) |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:03pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm:
Plus even by stopping the bigger particles and thus most of the viral particles they are going to decrease transmission and decrease viral load. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by rhino on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm
What sort of total retard would start a thread like this?
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:31pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm:
He did the demo with 5 layers of mask. Just imagine how ineffective one layer would be :D LOL |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:33pm rhino wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm:
what's your problem now c.nt ?? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:54pm rhino wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm:
You've answered your own question. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by John Smith on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:39pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:
\ thats why nails likes him He doesn't like sane rational people and refuses to listen to them |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by John Smith on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:42pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:
water vapour is a GAS |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:48pm John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:42pm:
then get groggary to blow in your mouth smithy. I bet you will catch a lot more than covid :D LOL |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by John Smith on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:00pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:48pm:
is that what you do with bobby? Blow in his mouth? No thanks. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Gordon on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:32pm
I reckon masks, the average mask most people wear does 3/4 of bugger all.
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 8:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:54pm:
hi groggary I found a good mask for you to wear :D LOL ![]() |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.
A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;) |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm:
They're also confusing widely discredited conspiracy theorists on YouTube, conducting experiments at home, with proof. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:52pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:
Or Pete Evans. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Neferti on Jun 24th, 2021 at 2:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:
Yes. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 24th, 2021 at 3:35pm
Why wash your hands when they are only going to get dirty again? Why cut your fingernails when they are just going to regrow? It is all about harm minimisation. The two week period where I had to wear a mask to work and to go shopping was just something that was only a mild inconvenience. The greater inconvenience would have been having to stay at home recovering from a communicable disease, which experts tell me affect myself worse than other people my age.
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 5:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:
Well it kind of looks dodgy when you can blow through 5 layers of these paper masks and still fog up your glasses. I guess you are telling us that by the time it hits the glass and the water vapour condenses all of the virus has been filtered out ?? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm
i see he's still persisting with his stupidity. ::)
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Dnarever on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:05pm Quote:
I seen proof that idiots can make videos ? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:09pm John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
and you're another medical expert like that Leigh Sales and the rest of the ABC shills :( which cornflakes packet did you get your qualifications from smithy ? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:10pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:05pm:
and further proof how you lot bend over and let big pharma shove one right up ya :D LOL |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:01pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:09pm:
one doesn't need qualifications to recognise a moron |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:18pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 5:46pm:
You've done that, have you? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 9:56pm John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:01pm:
you've had plenty of practice looking in the mirror smithy ;) |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Lols on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:28pm |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:30pm Sophia wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
Its just asign he hasn't put it on properly. THe steam comes out the sides of the mask not through the mask |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Lols on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:53pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:30pm:
Yes….it sure does come out from somewhere. If we are standing besides or behind someone then that exhaled air is in our direction. And putting it on properly? This looks to me the way everyone wears masks that I see in many public places. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:55pm Sophia wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:53pm:
Quite, theres been a lot of incorrect usage. Thats why it was never recommended that masks were the only form of protection we should be relying on. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2021 at 4:25pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 9:56pm:
you realise that the image in my mirror is not like the image in yours, right? ::) |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Mr Lager on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:11pm
I distinctly remember our experts saying in the beginning of this Chinese disease that "masks don't do anything", hehehe
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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:57pm Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I remember an alleged child rapist saying “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero". Do you remember that? Are you a fan of that alleged child rapist? |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Dnarever on Jun 25th, 2021 at 8:42pm Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
Think you will find that you got that wrong. |
Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Post by Carl D on Jun 26th, 2021 at 9:13am
Covid Delta variant is ‘in the air you breathe’: what you need to know about Sydney outbreak strain
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Wonder why its taken so long for all these "experts" to figure this out? I'm not medical expert but I had already worked it out for myself over a year ago - Covid spreads exactly the same way as the flu and other airborne viruses do. |
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