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Message started by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm

Title: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0



https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/


Oh look, he's awell known quack.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:20pm
https://byrambridle.com/

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0



https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/


Oh look, he's a well known quack.


That's your best come back is it mucus ?? :D LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack :D LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0



https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/


Oh look, he's a well known quack.


That's your best come back is it mucus ?? :D LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack :D LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?



Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:07pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0



https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/


Oh look, he's a well known quack.


That's your best come back is it mucus ?? :D LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack :D LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?



Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ


Don't worry about that other website or the AMA mafia or the ABC shills, just tell us where is reasoning is flawed ??

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:08pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0



https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/


Oh look, he's a well known quack.


That's your best come back is it mucus ?? :D LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack :D LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?



Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ


Don't worry about that other website or the AMA mafia or the ABC shills, just tell us where is reasoning is flawed ??




I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:24pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:
I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it.


Forget about that site. Just tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?? Surely it is not that hard :D LOL

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Belgarion on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm
Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why do medical personnel wear them as a matter of course?  ::)

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:
I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it.


Forget about that site. Just tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?? Surely it is not that hard :D LOL



First the paper he quoted was about influenza not Covid. Yes the flu transmits via aerosol, but it also transmits via fomite transmission. I also note this paragprah on the paper he posted

"Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group."

In other words, the evidence is weak and cant be controlled for imperfect mask use.


And he missed this paragprah from the conclusion

"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility (Figure 2). However, as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched."


What I suspect is happening is not through the face masks not working but by people not wearing them properly or combining them with other forms of hygeine control.



Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm
Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4


"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.


Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:57pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm:
Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why to medical personnel wear them as a matter of course?  ::)


They stop and liquids and spit falling into the patient during operating procedures. They don't stop the small size vapour particles from floating away into the room.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4


"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.


Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA


the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:02pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4


"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.


Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA


the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL



Wow so my refutation involves peer reviewed studies, yours is just look at his galsses.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:05pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4


"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.


Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA


the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL



Wow so my refutation involves peer reviewed studies, yours is just look at his galsses.


so where does the water vapour come from to steam up his glasses mucus ?? his arse ?? :D LOL

this is what you really need to stop any contamination. Far cry from a paper mask :D LOL


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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by JaSin. on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:08pm
I always wear a mask when entering a Bank.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:15pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaul0U83d0



https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/


Oh look, he's a well known quack.


That's your best come back is it mucus ?? :D LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack :D LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?


When you tried the same experiment yourself, what happened?


Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Belgarion on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:57pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm:
Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why to medical personnel wear them as a matter of course?  ::)


They stop and liquids and spit falling into the patient during operating procedures. They don't stop the small size vapour particles from floating away into the room.


That is exactly what they do. Masks reduce the spread of the droplets that the virus hitches a ride on.  ::)

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:03pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:57pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm:
Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why to medical personnel wear them as a matter of course?  ::)


They stop and liquids and spit falling into the patient during operating procedures. They don't stop the small size vapour particles from floating away into the room.


That is exactly what they do. Masks reduce the spread of the droplets that the virus hitches a ride on.  ::)




Plus even by stopping the bigger particles and thus most of the viral particles they are going to decrease transmission and decrease viral load.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by rhino on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm
What sort of total retard would start a thread like this?

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:31pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:57pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:25pm:
Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why to medical personnel wear them as a matter of course?  ::)


They stop and liquids and spit falling into the patient during operating procedures. They don't stop the small size vapour particles from floating away into the room.


That is exactly what they do. Masks reduce the spread of the droplets that the virus hitches a ride on.  ::)


He did the demo with 5 layers of mask. Just imagine how ineffective one layer would be :D LOL

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:33pm

rhino wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm:
What sort of total retard would start a thread like this?


what's your problem now c.nt ??

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:54pm

rhino wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm:
What sort of total retard would start a thread like this?


You've answered your own question.


Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by John Smith on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:39pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:
Oh look, he's awell known quack.


\
thats why nails likes him

He doesn't like sane rational people and refuses to listen to them

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by John Smith on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:42pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:
the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL


water vapour is a GAS

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:48pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:42pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:
the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL


water vapour is a GAS


then get groggary to blow in your mouth smithy. I bet you will catch a lot more than covid :D LOL

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by John Smith on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:00pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:42pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:
the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses :D LOL


water vapour is a GAS


then get groggary to blow in your mouth smithy. I bet you will catch a lot more than covid :D LOL


is that what you do with bobby? Blow in his mouth? No thanks.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Gordon on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:32pm
I reckon masks, the average mask most people wear does 3/4 of bugger all.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 8:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 3:20pm:
What sort of total retard would start a thread like this?


You've answered your own question.


hi groggary I found a good mask for you to wear :D LOL





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Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)



Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)





I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)





I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission.


They're also confusing widely discredited conspiracy theorists on YouTube, conducting experiments at home, with proof.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)





I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission.


They're also confusing widely discredited conspiracy theorists on YouTube, conducting experiments at home, with proof.




Or Pete Evans.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Neferti on Jun 24th, 2021 at 2:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)





I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission.


They're also confusing widely discredited conspiracy theorists on YouTube, conducting experiments at home, with proof.


Yes.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 24th, 2021 at 3:35pm
Why wash your hands when they are only going to get dirty again? Why cut your fingernails when they are just going to regrow? It is all about harm minimisation. The two week period where I had to wear a mask to work and to go shopping was just something that was only a mild inconvenience. The greater inconvenience would have been having to stay at home recovering from a communicable disease, which experts tell me affect myself worse than other people my age.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 5:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)





I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission.


They're also confusing widely discredited conspiracy theorists on YouTube, conducting experiments at home, with proof.


Well it kind of looks dodgy when you can blow through 5 layers of these paper masks and still fog up your glasses. I guess you are telling us that by the time it hits the glass and the water vapour condenses all of the virus has been filtered out ??

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm
i see he's still persisting with his stupidity. ::)


Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Dnarever on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:05pm

Quote:
Proof that masks don't do anything


I seen proof that idiots can make videos ?

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:09pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
i see he's still persisting with his stupidity. ::)


and you're another medical expert like that Leigh Sales and the rest of the ABC shills :(

which cornflakes packet did you get your qualifications from smithy ?

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

Quote:
Proof that masks don't do anything


I seen proof that idiots can make videos ?


and further proof how you lot bend over and let big pharma shove one right up ya :D LOL

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
i see he's still persisting with his stupidity. ::)


and you're another medical expert like that Leigh Sales and the rest of the ABC shills :(

which cornflakes packet did you get your qualifications from smithy ?


one doesn't need qualifications to recognise a moron

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:18pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:02am:
We might as well use the reasoning that since not all cyclist with bike helmets live during a crash, we should say people should not wear helmets.

A person wearing a mask is helping protect others if they have caught a communicable disease. And when other people also wear masks, there is a more limited two-way transmission. Not all aerosols will go through the masks. But those that do get pass the mask are not going to travel as far as they would from an unmasked person.


Or no need for this. Just wear a cheap paper mask will do the trick ;)





I think the essential issue seems to be people are confusing wearing masks to stop transmission of everything with use of masks to reduce transmission.


They're also confusing widely discredited conspiracy theorists on YouTube, conducting experiments at home, with proof.


Well it kind of looks dodgy when you can blow through 5 layers of these paper masks and still fog up your glasses.


You've done that, have you?


Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 24th, 2021 at 9:56pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
i see he's still persisting with his stupidity. ::)


and you're another medical expert like that Leigh Sales and the rest of the ABC shills :(

which cornflakes packet did you get your qualifications from smithy ?


one doesn't need qualifications to recognise a moron


you've had plenty of practice looking in the mirror smithy ;)

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Lols on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:28pm
Came across this mask test example…..

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJ4QFWF8/


Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:30pm

Sophia wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
Came across this mask test example…..

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJ4QFWF8/




Its just asign he hasn't put it on properly. THe steam comes out the sides of the mask not through the mask

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Lols on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:53pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

Sophia wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
Came across this mask test example…..

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJ4QFWF8/




Its just asign he hasn't put it on properly. THe steam comes out the sides of the mask not through the mask


Yes….it sure does come out from somewhere. If we are standing besides or behind someone then that exhaled air is in our direction.

And putting it on properly? This looks to me the way everyone wears masks that I see in many public places.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:55pm

Sophia wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

Sophia wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
Came across this mask test example…..

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJ4QFWF8/




Its just asign he hasn't put it on properly. THe steam comes out the sides of the mask not through the mask


Yes….it sure does come out from somewhere. If we are standing besides or behind someone then that exhaled air is in our direction.

And putting it on properly? This looks to me the way everyone wears masks that I see in many public places.




Quite, theres been a lot of incorrect usage. Thats why it was never recommended that masks were the only form of protection we should be relying on.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2021 at 4:25pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 9:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
i see he's still persisting with his stupidity. ::)


and you're another medical expert like that Leigh Sales and the rest of the ABC shills :(

which cornflakes packet did you get your qualifications from smithy ?


one doesn't need qualifications to recognise a moron


you've had plenty of practice looking in the mirror smithy ;)


you realise that the image in my mirror is not like the image in yours, right? ::)

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Mr Lager on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:11pm
I distinctly remember our experts saying in the beginning of this Chinese disease that "masks don't do anything", hehehe

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:57pm

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I distinctly remember our experts saying in the beginning of this Chinese disease that "masks don't do anything", hehehe


I remember an alleged child rapist saying “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero".

Do you remember that?

Are you a fan of that alleged child rapist?


Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Dnarever on Jun 25th, 2021 at 8:42pm

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I distinctly remember our experts saying in the beginning of this Chinese disease that "masks don't do anything", hehehe


Think you will find that you got that wrong.

Title: Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Post by Carl D on Jun 26th, 2021 at 9:13am
Covid Delta variant is ‘in the air you breathe’: what you need to know about Sydney outbreak strain

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/24/its-in-the-air-you-breathe-what-you-need-to-know-about-sydneys-delta-covid-variant


Quote:
Delta strain is significantly more infectious but it spreads the same way as the original virus – including by ‘fleeting’ encounters and respiratory aerosols



Quote:
“The spread is more likely if you’re close to the person [but] there’s still a potential for virus particles to be in the air, and breathed in by someone passing by,” she said. This is true of both the original Covid-19 virus and the Delta variant.



Quote:
After months of growing scientific evidence, the World Health Organization formally acknowledged the airborne spread of Covid in April. It can occur when viral particles remain “suspended in the air or travel farther than one metre”.

Laboratory studies have found particles of the virus can linger in the air in aerosolised form for up to 16 hours.



Quote:
“People are still kind of stuck in that mindset of hand sanitiser and washing your hands, when actually the message we need to be getting out there is it’s the air you breathe,”


Wonder why its taken so long for all these "experts" to figure this out? I'm not medical expert but I had already worked it out for myself over a year ago - Covid spreads exactly the same way as the flu and other airborne viruses do.


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