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Title: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:50pm Rudy Giuliani suspended from practising law in New York over 2020 US election statements "An appeals court has suspended Rudy Giuliani from practising law in New York because he made false statements while trying to get courts to overturn Donald Trump's loss in the US presidential race." |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2021 at 7:54pm "An attorney disciplinary committee said in its motion to suspend Mr Giuliani's licence that there was "uncontroverted evidence" that Mr Giuliani had made false statements to the courts, the public and politicians as he pushed theories the election was stolen through fraud." |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by chimera on Jun 26th, 2021 at 4:23pm
The witch hunt was rigged by fake attorneys and kangaroos of the
Appellate Division, First Department New York State Court, 27 Madison Avenue New York, NY 10010. Giuliani's MAGA [Make America Guiliani's Again] will lead the assault on the enemy bunker in the back-streets of Manhattan to seize the judge's bench and reverse the unfair attack on America. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by macman on Jun 26th, 2021 at 4:28pm
Prick should be going to jail along with his fat boss donny..
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 26th, 2021 at 4:31pm
I wonder if Maria Bakalova was feeling in danger for the potential of Giuliani to rape her?
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2021 at 8:28pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViBoBkirkvs
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:15am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
She was. She's said so in a few interviews I've heard. Cohen was very concerned too. He thought Giuliani was going to attempt to rape her, and that's why he came running into the room. Let's face it, would you trust this "man" in a room with a young girl? |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by Valkie on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:20am
And america is doing just great without TRUMP isnt it?
More illegal immigrants in the first few weeks of Biden's fake victory than the entire time Trump wasin. Work that was booming under Trump is dying under Biden. The world is closer to war than at any time under Trump But we cannt have presedents that actually improve things can we. So they elect (through deceit, trickery and manipulation) a president that only functions through drugs and minders. Such a wonderful country. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:25am In a detailed 33-page opinion, a panel of five judges on Thursday concluded that Rudolph W. Giuliani would no longer be able to practice law in the city where he was once mayor — or in the state of New York at all. His suspension was warranted, the panel determined, because Giuliani had “communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers, and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020.” In other words, Giuliani clearly lied and because of those lies, he should not be able to practice law, pending the outcome of a formal disciplinary hearing. Rudy Giuliani's law license suspension likely won't teach him much |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:15am:
Seemed like too much of an act to be taken seriously. Borat 2 would not have made it to video had this been a legal issue. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2021 at 1:00pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:52am:
Rudy wasn't acting. He had no idea he was being pranked. He was ready to go the grope on that young girl. Dirty old ex-lawyer. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:00pm
Uhuh. They were able to take clear shots of Giuliani looking through a book without him flinching. And the camera guy in the bedroom did not have Giuliani concerned about his own reputation tucking his shirt in. And Giuliani did not put an injunction against Cohen for the sake of preventing footage of Giuliani being shown on film.
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:05pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:00pm:
You obviously haven't seen the film. The bedroom scene, where he was probably going to try and rape the girl, was filmed on hidden cameras. Moreover, Cohen did nothing illegal so there was no need for Rudy to put an injunction against him. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:05pm:
In the film, released on Friday, the former New York mayor and current personal attorney to Donald Trump is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat’s daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist. Following an obsequious interview for a fake conservative news programme, the pair retreat at her suggestion for a drink to the bedroom of a hotel suite, which is rigged with concealed cameras. After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: “She’s 15. She’s too old for you.” Representatives for Giuliani have not replied to the Guardian’s requests for comment. Word of the incident first emerged on 7 July, when Giuliani called New York police to report the intrusion of an unusually dressed man. “This guy comes running in, wearing a crazy, what I would say was a pink transgender outfit,” Giuliani told the New York Post. “It was a pink bikini, with lace, underneath a translucent mesh top, it looked absurd. He had the beard, bare legs, and wasn’t what I would call distractingly attractive. “This person comes in yelling and screaming, and I thought this must be a scam or a shakedown, so I reported it to the police. He then ran away,” Giuliani said. The police found no crime had been committed. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:05pm:
Well, I saw the movie online as soon as it was available. Then I have watched the scene of the Giuliani interview from the youtube clip. There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act. Cohen bursts in to say to Giuliani "She is 15, she is too old for you" or something of that nature, whilst dressed in women's underwear. If any lawyer was being accused of something like that, he would definitely have a case as to putting an injunction on preventing that segment of the film being released. And Giuliani would have reason to sue for defamation for being called a child predator (implicitly) and the sexual harassment in general. It was an act. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by rhino on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
His desire for popularity. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by rhino on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by philperth2010 on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:55pm
Rudy Giuliani put himself in this situation and has diminished his reputation through lies and manipulation....Those who defend him show their lack of integrity and denial of facts???
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by rhino on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:21pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:24am rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:21pm:
I have now watched that interview and subsequent bedroom scene for the third time. Twice today. Once a few months back. Giuliani is only told that the character is 15 years old only when Borat comes back in his women's underwear costume. "She is 15. She is too old for you", cries Borat. Giuliani does not react in a way that indicates that he was not in on the scene. If you look at that 4 minute scene, it is heavily edited. Maria Bakalova crosses her legs and then recrosses them multiple times in quick cut scenes. I have not seen legs crossing from left over right and then right over left since Jordana Brewster had quick cut scenes in the Lethal Weapon tv series. Obviously, the interview took longer than 3 minutes. But, how can Giuliani explain his need to announce a drink with a 15-year-old in the bedroom when the cameramen were still filming. And I had to wonder how Giuliani managed to not notice the hidden camera on the desk, despite the camera being "hidden". Or the apparent act of Giuliani sitting up straight as if to react to Borat coming back. Subsequent interviews relating to the Borat Subsequent film seem to indicate that this was just a rouse to encourage people to watch the movie. Sasha is too smart to do something illegal and then have it appear in a full-length movie. We would not see this scene in this film if the legality of the scene was questionable. Nothing more than a promotional scene. Bakalova is 24 years old at the time of filming. And Giuliani would not be stupid enough to have an interviewer around him without a background check of her, anyway. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:31am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:24am:
Lol ;D |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:33am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
Because they did nothing illegal. FFS ::) Giuliani got caught with his pants down - literally. If Cohen hadn't come barging into the room there's no telling what Rudy might have done. She was very lucky not to have been sexually assaulted. ___________________ Oh, and just a side note: Rudy married his own cousin. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by rhino on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:24am:
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 2:58pm rhino wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47am:
Because he knew he was on camera and he was acting like he was aware that it seemed like a set up. Giuliani did not overreact when Borat went back into the room wearing women's underwear. Borat's over the top beard would have been obvious to even those that were not paying attention. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:33am:
They accused him of being with a 15-year-old. And Sasha came in wearing women's underwear for his part of the prank, which is a form of sexual harassment. Rape accusations. Sexual harassment. There is enough against Cohen that Giuliani could cite as a reason for not having the scene released on film. And there would have needed to be a release for this sort of scene to go to film, prior interview scene not withstanding. I get the feeling that Sasha has pranked the audience on this one. Not since Monty Python's intermission scene in the "Holy Grail" movie has the movie producers pranked the audience so well. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:04pm:
The only one pranked was the ex-lawyer who married his cousin. Cohen did nothing illegal. From the article I posted previously: “This person comes in yelling and screaming, and I thought this must be a scam or a shakedown, so I reported it to the police. He then ran away,” Giuliani said. The police found no crime had been committed. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by rhino on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:53pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 2:58pm:
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:11pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 2:58pm:
Didn't overreact? “This person comes in yelling and screaming, and I thought this must be a scam or a shakedown, so I reported it to the police. He then ran away,” Giuliani said. The police found no crime had been committed. You don't think that: a) reporting it to the police was an overreaction, and b) reporting it to the police proves that he wasn't in on it? |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 5:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm:
That must be a funny policing system in the United States. Some guy comes into the room wearing women's underwear and proposing anal sex to Giuliani. Sasha joked that the girl was only 15 years old, implying that Giuliani was about to engage in underage sex. There might have been a breach of security. Police called. But no crime had been committed? As for the marriage to Regina Peruggi, Giuliani's second cousin, that is actually legal. The genetic differentials between the two would be considerable enough that the marriage would not be illegal. That would be like my grandchild marrying my sister's grandchild. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 5:48pm rhino wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:53pm:
Do you want a "logical" reason? You have already got the logical reason. We might well believe that Giuliani wanted to have sex with Bakalova. But, only Giuliani could tell us if that is true. Giuliani took a long time to tuck his shirt in. And Bakalova made it seem obvious that she was flirting with Giuliani in preparation for her pranking Giuliani. Without the whole story, we cannot tell what happened that day. The only thing we might surmise was that Giuliani was hoping that Bakalova made the next move. But, he sat up off the bed as soon as he heard someone coming. Giuliani flirting with Bakalova on camera. Giuliani appreciating a stupid gift of some book. Giuliani agreeing on camera to going in to the next room to have a drink with a young lady. What makes you think that he was not doing that for the sake of improving his popularity by getting with a young lady? He was seemingly trying to reassure himself that he was not "passed it" in old age. But, the interview seemed so staged that I could not bring myself to believe that he was not in on the act. Especially seeing that the scene made it to air last year. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 5:51pm
HOWEVER...
If it does turn out that I am wrong about my perception of what happened, I will concede that I was wrong. Then I will make it plain and clear stating that Rudolph Giuliani would be the most gullible lawyer I have ever known in the media. He certainly deserves what he gets if Giuliani could not make out that he was set up. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 5:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:11pm:
I am yet to see evidence that he reported to the police the incident of that day. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:14pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
FFS. How many links showing his actual quote do you want? |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:59pm
greg, I have already read your repeated quoting of what was claimed to be said. I do not know if that quote is the truth. And if there was truth to what was said, there is no evidence that charges were pursued. Ergo, no crime was committed.... on either side of the argument.
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Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2021 at 6:07am "Andrew Giuliani, son of former New York mayor-cum-Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, received no votes in a poll of state Republican leaders about the party’s next choice for governor of New York state." ;D Giuliani son gets no votes from Republican leaders in bid for New York governor Last week, Rudy Giuliani saw his New York law license suspended, over his furthering of Donald Trump’s lies about voter fraud. In his new book, the journalist Michael Wolff depicts the former mayor in the White House in the last days of the Trump presidency, “drinking heavily and in a constant state of excitation, often almost incoherent in his agitation and mania”. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by AiA on Jun 30th, 2021 at 7:32am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 6:07am:
And to think that it wasn't so long ago that "America's Mayor" was thought to have a shot at the presidency :) |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2021 at 7:53am AiA wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 7:32am:
You know, even back during 9/11 when everyone thought Rudy was the bee's knees, I didn't like the guy. He always gave off a creepy vibe. Turns out my gut instincts were right. I always believed he was "casting himself as a hero for political gain". Now the guy is just a complete & utter nutjob. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by AiA on Jun 30th, 2021 at 8:33am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 7:53am:
Years back I read a piece in Vanity Fair that detailed Rudi's crazy relationships with his ex-wives and children who purportedly hated him. I wonder if his son made up with his dad for (attempted) political gain? |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 7th, 2021 at 7:21am Being under federal investigation is not only incredibly stressful, it is also incredibly expensive. Thanks to the work he did for Donald Trump, the Feds are taking a close look at Rudy Giuliani. And since the former New York City mayor was stiffed by the former president, he is having some significant money issues. With no money coming in from Trump, Giuliani resorted to raising his legal fees through online crowdfunding. The venture is not going well for him, though. The page is currently at .001% of its $5 million dollar goal. Reuters Jan Wolfe tweeted, “Rudy Giuliani’s legal defense fund only has 92 online donations so far, totaling less than $8,000. They set a goal of $5 million by late August. And at this rate they won’t hit $100,000 by then.” Rudy Giuliani Set Up a Fundraising Page for His Legal Defense. It Is At .001% Of Its Goal |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by Brian Ross on Jul 8th, 2021 at 6:32pm |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 8th, 2021 at 7:14pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
Love it :) "Two weeks after being suspended from practising law in New York, Rudy Giuliani has also been barred from practising in Washington DC." |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by Brian Ross on Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:38pm |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 15th, 2021 at 1:43am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:38pm:
I doubt Mr Trump needed any encouragement to claim victory. He was claiming voter fraud for 6 months prior to the election. |
Title: Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2021 at 4:48am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:38pm:
"Giuliani’s grand plan was to just say Trump won, state after state, based on nothing. Stepien, Miller and Meadows thought his argument was both incoherent and irresponsible," Well, yeah. That's Rudy's trademark: incoherent and irresponsible. Little Rudy is in need of psychiatric help. Why doesn't someone in his family get it for him? Does he have any family? (He's not married to his cousin anymore, is he?) |
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