NSW records 38 local COVID-19 cases,
highest number in 14 months


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-08/nsw-records-38-covid-cases/100276514


Posted 40m ago
40 minutes ago
, updated 9m ago

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NSW has recorded 38 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.

It's the highest number of new infections the state has recorded in a 24-hour reporting period in 14 months.

The source of 12 of the infections remains under investigation.

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian said 11 of the new cases had been infectious for a number of days while out in the community.

"Those numbers are too high. We need to get those numbers down," Ms Berejiklian said.

She implored Sydneysiders to stay at home.

"Please avoid contact with other households, please avoid visiting family and friends because you are not allowed to."

Chief health officer Kerry Chant said 40 cases were in hospital, including 17 people aged under 55 and 10 under 35 years.

Of those in hospital, 11 are in intensive care, including one aged in their 30s and three being ventilated.

Dr Chant said areas of most concern were in the Fairfield local government area and included Greenacre, Smithfield, West Hoxton Park, Bankstown and Roselands.

Interesting to find out how many were vaxed ? How come they never tell us.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 11:59am:

Interesting to find out how many were vaxed ? How come they never tell us.

Dunno -
it says

There have been 396 locally acquired cases of COVID-19 since June 16.

This better not disrupt my trip down south.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:04pm:

This better not disrupt my trip down south.

Forget your trip down south.
It's totally out of control in Sydney and
it will move to a place near you soon.

If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that?

Not enough people are vaxxed.
Only 7% are fully vaxxed.

About 20% are like me with only their first shot of AstraZeneca.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 11:59am:

Interesting to find out how many were vaxed ? How come they never tell us.

How is it relevant?

NOW is the 2nd wave - not as the media tried to put out halfway through the 1st

Spot

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:04pm:

This better not disrupt my trip down south.

I have a trip planned for August ... out to Birdsville & down the Birdsville track into Sth Aust then across into Victoria and to Lakes Entrance.

Things are looking dicey & I've had to pre-pay a fair bit of accommodation already.

I hope I can get my money back no hassles if Covid throws a spanner in the works.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that?

Vaccinated people can still catch it & spread it.

The same applies to the normal flu vaccinations..

you can still get & spread the flu even if you've had the shot.

It means that if you get it it will be a much milder dose & shouldn't require hospitalisation.

It's not a cure all.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:30pm: If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that? Not enough people are vaxxed. Only 7% are fully vaxxed. About 20% are like me with only their first shot of AstraZeneca.

Most nursing home residents have had both and majority of older people have had at least one. One shot prevents serious illness and hospitalisation, so time to open up and let it rip.

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:41pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:30pm: If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that? Not enough people are vaxxed. Only 7% are fully vaxxed. About 20% are like me with only their first shot of AstraZeneca. Most nursing home residents have had both and majority of older people have had at least one. One shot prevents serious illness and hospitalisation, so time to open up and let it rip.

Ya reckon?

Tell Gladys that.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:20pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 1:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:41pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:30pm: If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that? Not enough people are vaxxed. Only 7% are fully vaxxed. About 20% are like me with only their first shot of AstraZeneca. Most nursing home residents have had both and majority of older people have had at least one. One shot prevents serious illness and hospitalisation, so time to open up and let it rip. Ya reckon? Tell Gladys that.

Everyone I've spoken to is saying their elderly parents are done.
My mum is in a retirement village kind of place, everuone therr is 100% done. Her elderly aunt in a nursing home, all residents done.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:20pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 1:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:41pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:30pm: If the vaccine is so good, why aren't vaccinated bods allowed to go freely about their business. What's the ruling on that? Not enough people are vaxxed. Only 7% are fully vaxxed. About 20% are like me with only their first shot of AstraZeneca. Most nursing home residents have had both and majority of older people have had at least one. One shot prevents serious illness and hospitalisation, so time to open up and let it rip. Ya reckon? Tell Gladys that.

"But based on the data available, it appears that more than a third of the country's nursing home residents are not fully vaccinated."

The study authors also reported that one dose provided 100% protection against hospitalization

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3?r=US&IR=T

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

The study authors also reported that one dose provided 100% protection against hospitalization https://www.businessinsider.com.au/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3?r=US&IR=T

Good article Gordy - you're the man.



Millions of people worldwide have had one shot of two-dose COVID-19 vaccines.
Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines are likely 80% effective against symptomatic COVID-19 after one dose.
A single AstraZeneca shot is probably at least 70% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19.

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:17pm:

Vaccinated people can still catch it & spread it

So vaccinated people are still too scared to venture out then - is that it?

Let's say a vaccinated person not wearing a mask, believing he/she was safe, was stopped by a cop in the street. What would happen, what would the cop say or do?

Unfortunately, as I and a few others have said before - unless every single person in NSW is tested every single day then the cases are probably at least 10 times higher than the 'official' numbers, maybe even 100 times.

And, the majority of them wouldn't bother getting tested as they probably have few or no symptoms or they just think they have something like a cold or the flu. And, I'm also sure most of them wouldn't want to be put into quarantine if they tested positive as well.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 12:04pm: This better not disrupt my trip down south. Forget your trip down south. It's totally out of control in Sydney and it will move to a place near you soon.

There is already covid cases in Qld with people still moving about after the State of Origin. I would not be surprised that we have covid restrictions in place in southeast Qld for another 2 weeks. Hopefully, southern Qld won't be affected.

Bring out ya dead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcbR1J_4ICg

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

The study authors also reported that one dose provided 100% protection against hospitalization https://www.businessinsider.com.au/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3?r=US&IR=T

Quote:

Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines are likely 80% effective against symptomatic COVID-19 after one dose.

"are likely" which means they still don't know :D LOL

just more propaganda from the ABC big pharma shills !

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 1:37pm: The study authors also reported that one dose provided 100% protection against hospitalization https://www.businessinsider.com.au/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3?r=US&IR=T Quote: Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines are likely 80% effective against symptomatic COVID-19 after one dose. "are likely" which means they still don't know :D LOL just more propaganda from the ABC big pharma shills !

But Nail,
It made me feel a lot better when I read that after my one shot.

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 2:12pm:

Unfortunately, as I and a few others have said before - unless every single person in NSW is tested every single day then the cases are probably at least 10 times higher than the 'official' numbers, maybe even 100 times. And, the majority of them wouldn't bother getting tested as they probably have few or no symptoms or they just think they have something like a cold or the flu. And, I'm also sure most of them wouldn't want to be put into quarantine if they tested positive as well.

So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid?

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 1:37pm: The study authors also reported that one dose provided 100% protection against hospitalization https://www.businessinsider.com.au/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3?r=US&IR=T Quote: Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines are likely 80% effective against symptomatic COVID-19 after one dose. "are likely" which means they still don't know :D LOL just more propaganda from the ABC big pharma shills !

I read in UK, there has been zero covid deaths of people who've had one shot. 

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 2:44pm:

So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid?

Quite possibly.

Because, as has also been mentioned here a few times in the past - if no-one got tested for Covid from today onwards there would be zero cases.

Unless some people with Covid were sick enough to have to go to hospital then they would know they had it for sure.

We've seen it with all the people who won't social distance or wear masks, etc. These same people won't bother getting tested for Covid if they believe they only have a common cold or the flu. Especially, as I've said, when they know they would have to spend at least 14 days in quarantine if they tested positive for Covid.

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 2:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:44pm: So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid? Quite possibly. Because, as has also been mentioned here a few times in the past - if no-one got tested for Covid from today onwards there would be zero cases. Unless some people with Covid were sick enough to have to go to hospital then they would know they had it for sure. We've seen it with all the people who won't social distance or wear masks, etc. These same people won't bother getting tested for Covid if they believe they only have a common cold or the flu. Especially, as I've said, when they know they would have to spend at least 14 days in quarantine if they tested positive for Covid.

Most oldies have had at least one shot which prevents serious illness.
90% of people don't even know they have Covid.
Shouldn't we open up?

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 3:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:51pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:44pm: So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid? Quite possibly. Because, as has also been mentioned here a few times in the past - if no-one got tested for Covid from today onwards there would be zero cases. Unless some people with Covid were sick enough to have to go to hospital then they would know they had it for sure. We've seen it with all the people who won't social distance or wear masks, etc. These same people won't bother getting tested for Covid if they believe they only have a common cold or the flu. Especially, as I've said, when they know they would have to spend at least 14 days in quarantine if they tested positive for Covid. Most oldies have had at least one shot which prevents serious illness. 90% of people don't even know they have Covid. Shouldn't we open up?

Yeah - open it up and let it rip -
I feel safe now after my one shot of AZ.

NZ to chase down anyone who doesn't get their vax:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpPZH9AM35c

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 3:04pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 3:01pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:51pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:44pm: So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid? Quite possibly. Because, as has also been mentioned here a few times in the past - if no-one got tested for Covid from today onwards there would be zero cases. Unless some people with Covid were sick enough to have to go to hospital then they would know they had it for sure. We've seen it with all the people who won't social distance or wear masks, etc. These same people won't bother getting tested for Covid if they believe they only have a common cold or the flu. Especially, as I've said, when they know they would have to spend at least 14 days in quarantine if they tested positive for Covid. Most oldies have had at least one shot which prevents serious illness. 90% of people don't even know they have Covid. Shouldn't we open up? Yeah - open it up and let it rip - I feel safe now after my one shot of AZ.

I believe you're well covered 2 weeks after the first shot. You need to hide under the bed for another week!!

BTW, my 2nd Pizzer shot was cancelled because I had a tummy virus, so rescheduled for next week.

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 2:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:44pm: So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid? Quite possibly. Because, as has also been mentioned here a few times in the past - if no-one got tested for Covid from today onwards there would be zero cases. Unless some people with Covid were sick enough to have to go to hospital then they would know they had it for sure. We've seen it with all the people who won't social distance or wear masks, etc. These same people won't bother getting tested for Covid if they believe they only have a common cold or the flu. Especially, as I've said, when they know they would have to spend at least 14 days in quarantine if they tested positive for Covid.

You're dead right, Carl - the numbers we have are just of people tested, not all people.

The real figure is obviously much, much higher.

I've actually met people who have told me that they would never get tested because it's the test that gives you the virus.

Unfortunately, one of those people is in my own family.

They also believe that mammograms cause breast cancer.

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 3:04pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 3:01pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:51pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 2:44pm: So 90% of people don't even know they have Covid? Quite possibly. Because, as has also been mentioned here a few times in the past - if no-one got tested for Covid from today onwards there would be zero cases. Unless some people with Covid were sick enough to have to go to hospital then they would know they had it for sure. We've seen it with all the people who won't social distance or wear masks, etc. These same people won't bother getting tested for Covid if they believe they only have a common cold or the flu. Especially, as I've said, when they know they would have to spend at least 14 days in quarantine if they tested positive for Covid. Most oldies have had at least one shot which prevents serious illness. 90% of people don't even know they have Covid. Shouldn't we open up? Yeah - open it up and let it rip - I feel safe now after my one shot of AZ. I believe you're well covered 2 weeks after the first shot. You need to hide under the bed for another week!! BTW, my 2nd Pizzer shot was cancelled because I had a tummy virus, so rescheduled for next week.

Wow - we'll both be OK in about a week or so.

We'll have a suit of armor against the invisible enemy.

NSW... The new Victoria? :-/

Since the lockdown started, all the eastern beaches, parks, coast walks, harbour walks etc etc have been off the hook busy and guess what. Hardly any community transmission. All the new cases are in a totally different area, south west. Why?

Because Covid doesn't spread outside.

Lol    ;D

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7E11/production/_114737223_trump_covid_scotus_event_cases_640_2x-nc-005.png

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

NSW... The new Victoria? :-/

Just imagine how pissed off you'll be if you have
a 112 day lockdown like we endured?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

Unfortunately, one of those people is in my own family.

Hmm...


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

They also believe that mammograms cause breast cancer.

Mammograms are x-raying of breast tissue, yeah? We know radiation causes cancer so there is that. The question is does the equivalent of 6 months background radiation shot through your breast outweigh the risks? And the answer to that is a resounding yes, just as it is for vaccines.

;D

From last week.

The streets of Sydney were silent overnight but it was a different story hours earlier, with pictures revealing large crowds at Bondi Beach despite the city experiencing its first lockdown in six months.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/covid19-sydney-lockdown-anger-brews-over-bondi-beach-crowds/news-story/c9b012729efd2b9445174e910526ce20

From today.

The Premier said the Delta outbreak NSW has been battling for three weeks had moved from Sydney's eastern suburbs to the south-west.

"We are pretty confident the virus isn't spreading in [the east] now but we have seen some concerning statistics on what is happening in the Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown and Liverpool council areas," she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-08/nsw-braces-for-rise-in-covid19-cases-in-south-west-sydney/100275184

;D As my old mate Leftwinger would have said, Kpow.

The evidence is very clear that outdoor spaces are safer than indoors," Prof Chris Whitty, the UK's chief medical officer, has said.
What makes the outdoors safer?

Researchers say infections can happen outdoors, but the chances are massively reduced.

Fresh air disperses and dilutes the virus.

It also helps to evaporate the liquid droplets in which it is carried.

On top of that, ultraviolet light from the Sun should kill any virus that's out in the open.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55680305

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Because Covid doesn't spread outside.

Incorrect.

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

;D As my old mate Leftwinger would have said, Kpow. The evidence is very clear that outdoor spaces are safer than indoors," Prof Chris Whitty, the UK's chief medical officer, has said. What makes the outdoors safer? Researchers say infections can happen outdoors, but the chances are massively reduced. Fresh air disperses and dilutes the virus. It also helps to evaporate the liquid droplets in which it is carried. On top of that, ultraviolet light from the Sun should kill any virus that's out in the open. https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55680305

So we should all be lined up along the coast on lazyboys, sufficiently distanced, drinking Pina Coladas? Let's distance party this virus out of AU. DooF dOOf! ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:39pm:

Lol    ;D https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7E11/production/_114737223_trump_covid_scotus_event_cases_640_2x-nc-005.png

You know, this is the exact thing the Hmmm I posted below here that I was Hmming about. It seems your irrational fixations are genetic.


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

Unfortunately, one of those people is in my own family.

Hmm...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 7:35pm: Because Covid doesn't spread outside. Incorrect.

Covid: Can you catch the virus outside?

"Researchers say infections can happen outdoors ..."


Melbourne’s mask rule: is there evidence Covid spreads outdoors and how does it occur?

"Though seemingly not a factor in Victoria’s outbreak, outdoor transmission does happen, and it’s something authorities clearly want to avoid".

KaPow

Near-absent are examples of transmission at beaches and other open spaces where breezes disperse airborne particles, distancing is easier, and humidity and sunlight render the coronavirus less viable.

Beaches and parks “are some of the safest places you can gather,” said Linsey Marr, an expert on airborne virus transmission at Virginia Tech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/13/covid-outside-safety/

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Since the lockdown started, all the eastern beaches, parks, coast walks, harbour walks etc etc have been off the hook busy and guess what. Hardly any community transmission. All the new cases are in a totally different area, south west. Why? Because Covid doesn't spread outside.

Incorrect.

Covid: Can you catch the virus outside?

"Researchers say infections can happen outdoors ..."


Melbourne’s mask rule: is there evidence Covid spreads outdoors and how does it occur?

"Though seemingly not a factor in Victoria’s outbreak, outdoor transmission does happen, and it’s something authorities clearly want to avoid".

How many cases in NSW today?
38 yesterday.

*

No news just yet, Bobby.

However, The (Un)Australian believes the lockdown is likely to be extended for 4 weeks.

Oh, I call it The (Un)Australian because, while other news outlets have allowed readers to read normally paywalled articles about Covid "in the public interest" this mob still insist on wanting people to pay for everything.

Not surprising really since it is a right wing 'rag' owned by News Corp.  ::)

Carl D wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

No news just yet, Bobby. However, The (Un)Australian believes the lockdown is likely to be extended for 4 weeks. Oh, I call it The (Un)Australian because, while other news outlets have allowed readers to read normally paywalled articles about Covid "in the public interest" this mob still insist on wanting people to pay for everything. Not surprising really since it is a right wing 'rag' owned by News Corp.  ::)

44 new cases in NSW today.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/jul/09/australia-covid-live-update-home-quarantine-national-cabinet-western-sydney-nsw-outbreak-gladys-berejiklian-scott-morrison-vaccine-pfizer



Australia Covid live update: NSW records 44 new cases and Qld zero as police begin patrols in south-west Sydney; Pfizer says no increase to vaccine supply

Premier Gladys Berejiklian says 29 of the new cases were infectious in the community as new restrictions announced for Sydney; state and territory leaders will meet with PM to discuss the vaccine rollout. Follow latest updates

    NSW restrictions; NSW hotspots; Qld restrictions; Qld hotspots
    NSW records 38 Covid cases; Sydney lockdown extension explained
    What happens if you’re diagnosed with Covid in Australia?
   

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-09/nsw-covid-44-locally-transmitted-cases-july-9/100279882


New restrictions as NSW records 44 new locally acquired COVID-19 infections


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Posted 16m ago
16 minutes ago
, updated 1m ago



NSW recorded 44 locally acquired COVID-19 cases in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.

The source of nine of these remains under investigation.

Twenty-nine of the new cases were either fully or partially in the community while infectious.

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian stressed the importance of strict lockdown measures to avoid deaths.

"This is the opposite of where we need or want the numbers to trend," she said.

"Do not think that the NSW Government thinks we can live with this when our rate of vaccination is only at 9 per cent."

Ms Berejiklian said several new social distancing restrictions will be introduced to combat the state’s COVID-19 outbreak.

From 5:00pm today in Greater Sydney, the Blue Mountains, Central Coast, Wollongong and Shoalhaven:

    People will be able to exercise only in groups of two (or with their households)
    People may not exercise more than 10km from their homes

From Sunday, the number of mourners at funerals will be capped at 10.

Chief health officer Kerry Chant said this outbreak is now at it's "challenging" point.

"I know that this has been a long journey in the fight against COVID but we cannot stumble over this hurdle," she said.

"This is an incredibly challenging time and I want to stress I am incredibly concerned. I need all members of the community to
follow the public health advice."

The cops are targeting the western Sydney region where less than half of them speak english and are spreading the disease  like wildfire, a bit like the towers in Melbourne where the refugees did the same.

The joy of multiculturalism strikes again.

Johnnie wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:23am:

The cops are targeting the western Sydney region where less than half of them speak english and are spreading the disease  like wildfire, a bit like the towers in Melbourne where the refugees did the same. The joy of multiculturalism strikes again.

The unwashed and the unvaccinated.

NSW is buggered -
Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying -
urging people to get their vaxes.

food for thought


Israel has administered at least 10,882,624 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 60.1% of the country’s population.

and

COVID-19 infections are increasing in Israel, with 395 new infections reported on average each day.

so 60 % is ineffective.

by my calculations NSW now faces a choice.

go the swedish route and tell people to man up and take some god dammed responsibility for themselves

or

stay in lockdown til christmas


erradication of the delta variant would now seem impossible.

All those advocating to let it rip or refusing measures like wearing masks should be refused treatment.

End of story.

ASX sheds $34 billion with 1.5% fall as
Sydney restrictions tighten.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/asx-set-to-follow-us-stocks-lower-recovery-jitters-escalate-20210709-p5888q.html


Updated July 9, 2021 — 12.16pmfirst published at 8.30am
Summary

    The ASX 200 slipped 1.5% on Friday, wiping $34 billion from the index. Energy stocks were offering some resistance, but tech stocks and the banks were hammered
    NSW has recorded 44 new cases of COVID, with a worrying 29 people infectious while in the community. Premier Gladys Berejiklian has tightened restrictions in Sydney
    US futures were in the red, with the E-mini for the S&P500, Dow, and Nasdaq each 0.4% lower and pointing to deepening losses on Wall Street tonight
    Energy firms rose on improved oil prices, buoyed by signs of stronger demand. WTI futures rallied following an Energy Information Administration report that showed crude oil commercial inventories fell last week

Gordon wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Since the lockdown started, all the eastern beaches, parks, coast walks, harbour walks etc etc have been off the hook busy and guess what. Hardly any community transmission. All the new cases are in a totally different area, south west. Why?

They're tinted.

Karnal wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:37pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 7:35pm: Since the lockdown started, all the eastern beaches, parks, coast walks, harbour walks etc etc have been off the hook busy and guess what. Hardly any community transmission. All the new cases are in a totally different area, south west. Why? They're tinted.

Of course they are - need we even mention it?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 12:37pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 7:35pm: Since the lockdown started, all the eastern beaches, parks, coast walks, harbour walks etc etc have been off the hook busy and guess what. Hardly any community transmission. All the new cases are in a totally different area, south west. Why? They're tinted. Of course they are - need we even mention it?

It helps Gordon feel virtuous, so sure.

You?

https://i.imgur.com/IrXNweQ.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:32pm:

ASX sheds $34 billion with 1.5% fall as Sydney restrictions tighten. https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/asx-set-to-follow-us-stocks-lower-recovery-jitters-escalate-20210709-p5888q.html Updated July 9, 2021 — 12.16pmfirst published at 8.30am Summary     The ASX 200 slipped 1.5% on Friday, wiping $34 billion from the index. Energy stocks were offering some resistance, but tech stocks and the banks were hammered     NSW has recorded 44 new cases of COVID, with a worrying 29 people infectious while in the community. Premier Gladys Berejiklian has tightened restrictions in Sydney     US futures were in the red, with the E-mini for the S&P500, Dow, and Nasdaq each 0.4% lower and pointing to deepening losses on Wall Street tonight     Energy firms rose on improved oil prices, buoyed by signs of stronger demand. WTI futures rallied following an Energy Information Administration report that showed crude oil commercial inventories fell last week

Glad I resisted the temptation to transfer my superannuation pension from cash back into the stock market 'gamble'.

A few people (including my own cousin) recently told me I should put my super back into the stock market but I had a suspicion another 'crash' wasn't too far off with all the Covid outbreaks and lockdowns.

Moved it into cash in February last year (like many other people did) when I lost about $4000 in less than a week. I only get a small amount of interest now but its safer than potentially losing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars having it all 'gambled' on the stock market because my super needs to last me another 3 years until I can apply for the age pension when I'm 67.

Carl D wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 12:32pm: ASX sheds $34 billion with 1.5% fall as Sydney restrictions tighten. https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/asx-set-to-follow-us-stocks-lower-recovery-jitters-escalate-20210709-p5888q.html Updated July 9, 2021 — 12.16pmfirst published at 8.30am Summary     The ASX 200 slipped 1.5% on Friday, wiping $34 billion from the index. Energy stocks were offering some resistance, but tech stocks and the banks were hammered     NSW has recorded 44 new cases of COVID, with a worrying 29 people infectious while in the community. Premier Gladys Berejiklian has tightened restrictions in Sydney     US futures were in the red, with the E-mini for the S&P500, Dow, and Nasdaq each 0.4% lower and pointing to deepening losses on Wall Street tonight     Energy firms rose on improved oil prices, buoyed by signs of stronger demand. WTI futures rallied following an Energy Information Administration report that showed crude oil commercial inventories fell last week Glad I resisted the temptation to transfer my superannuation pension from cash back into the stock market 'gamble'. A few people (including my own cousin) recently told me I should put my super back into the stock market but I had a suspicion another 'crash' wasn't too far off with all the Covid outbreaks and lockdowns. Moved it into cash in February last year (like many other people did) when I lost about $4000 in less than a week. I only get a small amount of interest now but its safer than potentially losing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars having it all 'gambled' on the stock market because my super needs to last me another 3 years until I can apply for the age pension when I'm 67.

About 1 year ago you would have made mega bucks if
you would have bought shares
but it looks risky now.

Karnal wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 12:51pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 12:37pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2021 at 7:35pm: Since the lockdown started, all the eastern beaches, parks, coast walks, harbour walks etc etc have been off the hook busy and guess what. Hardly any community transmission. All the new cases are in a totally different area, south west. Why? They're tinted. Of course they are - need we even mention it? It helps Gordon feel virtuous, so sure. You?

Very virtuous.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf95QHmJ8aM

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/like-we-re-children-show-of-force-in-sydney-s-south-west-will-put-community-offside-20210708-p5882l.html

Gordon wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:16pm:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/like-we-re-children-show-of-force-in-sydney-s-south-west-will-put-community-offside-20210708-p5882l.html

subscriber only content -
please copy and paste it all.

They are acting like children...

https://i.imgur.com/LDUyDWj.jpg

Like we’re children’: Show of force in Sydney’s south-west will put community offside

There’s a theoretical boundary that splits Sydney. It’s drawn diagonally between Sydney Airport, Parramatta and Sydney’s north-western suburbs. Geoff Roberts, the chief commissioner of the Greater Sydney Commission referred to it in 2016 when he told a group of property developers: “If you are north of that line you are largely a ‘have’. If you are south of that line, you are largely a ‘have-not’.”

Research has backed this up. Whether you call it the Red Rooster line, the latte line or the quinoa curtain, overall access to jobs and white-collar work is concentrated in the north and east of the city (above this line), with blue-collar jobs being focussed below the latte line in the south and west of the city.

But the differences in the two parts of the city run deeper than that. The south and west of the city, where some of my own relatives live, is also where family and community come first. This is a place where bloodlines run deep and where connectedness to culture and each other is of utmost importance. It is why many residents of these areas struggled to understand why they were being targeted by the city they call home.

“In Islam there is a whole bunch of stuff about not spreading disease,” Will Scates, resident of Bankstown says. “If you’re sick you don’t go to see people. There are hadiths about this.“

Of course, people wouldn’t intentionally act in a way that would harm them or the people that they love, he says. “But it’s made out that we don’t care or we are too stupid to understand that.”

Scates is one of the many Muslims who live in the area. In places like Lakemba and Wiley Park in the Canterbury-Bankstown LGA over 50 per cent of the population is Muslim. For many of them the mosque is where the community comes together and where information is distributed and gathered, but since the latest COVID outbreak, mosques and community centres are closed.

It’s these differences in population groups that the government needed to understand to properly communicate the latest health advice. Instead on Thursday the NSW government chose a more combative response by making a public show of ordering an extra 100 police officers to patrol the area. The operation is also using traffic and highway officers, dog units and police helicopters to ensure compliance and issue fines for breaches.

As Jihad Dib, the member for Lakemba in south-west Sydney, told the ABC: “There’s lots of different ways to get the message out; there’s community leaders, there’s sports leaders, your local MPs, your schools and businesses ... I don’t think people would have seen this coming.”

Assistant Commissioner Tony Cooke did mention police had deployed multicultural liaison officers “for weeks now across the community” and had educational material about the public health orders made available in 56 different languages. Though this seems to not have worked.

Scates mentions how he’s not seen these liaison officers or indeed material being distributed. He also has more pertinent concerns about how the use of police force is giving out a confusing message.

You look outside and you see a show of force. And one second we’re told that following the orders is good for ourselves and our families, then next thing they’re saying that without force we won’t do so. Like we’re children or animals. But I wouldn’t treat either kids or animals like this! If someone is giving illegal haircuts or dropping their kids at their aunt’s place it’s because they need to. The rent being due is more of a sure thing than catching COVID.”

His point brings up the fact that many in the area have precarious job arrangements. As the “latte line” shows, a number of the residents in the area are considered essential workers – working in hospitality, supermarkets, and the like. Can these residents even afford to stay at home like their eastern suburbs counterparts who are mostly employed in white-collar work can?

The mood in the LGAs affected is one of resignation, even though as Scates mentions, most people seemed to be complying with health orders. “Since the Delta variant came out people are hyper-conscious. Where I live I have probably seen two people without masks. But the feeling is even if you’re doing things for the public good the message still is that the public is against you.”

This feeling of being targeted comes through witnessing this same situation playing out many times before. In Melbourne almost exactly a year ago on July 4 the largely immigrant populace of Melbourne’s public housing towers were put in stringent lockdown where they were not allowed to exit their homes, in some cases not even to get fresh air, a situation that the Victorian Ombudsman found breached human rights.

The government of Victoria seems to have learned a number of lessons after it was criticised for not doing enough to engage with multicultural communities. Since then it has introduced multilingual workers who work with the community to dispel myths around vaccinations as well as collecting ethnicity data on coronavirus vaccinations.

cont....

cont....

In their own way, politicians in the area are trying to change the way health advice is communicated. A number of Labor MPs from the area put out a video spoken in a number of different languages to get the health advice through. As Fairfield mayor Frank Carbone went on breakfast TV today to say, “This isn’t a crime emergency, this is a medical emergency. There should be more pop-up clinics, more testing places. I think that people should be treated with respect and I think it doesn’t happen out here in western Sydney.”

The NSW government and the public at large has to realise that unfairly targeting one community with law enforcement is far from helpful. No one in the south-west or any other part of Sydney for that matter would wilfully put the lives of their families and loved ones at risk.

The “latte line” has shown us there is a difference in the make-up of communities on both sides of the divide and communication strategies should be created to work with different groups.

Demonising certain areas of this city by over-policing them will make it harder for all of us to work together to stop COVID in its tracks and go back to the life of normality we are all craving.

Saman Shad is a writer, journalist and playwright.

What a load of crap, we've had the mounted police at the beach every day, cops everywhere.

What should be inforced is people going to indoor venues.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:19pm:

subscriber only content - please copy and paste it all.

That's strange? I'm not a subscriber to The Sydney Morning Herald and the article shows up OK for me. In both Mozilla Firefox and Edge in Windows 10?

Carl D wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 1:19pm: subscriber only content - please copy and paste it all. That's strange? I'm not a subscriber to The Sydney Morning Herald and the article shows up OK for me. In both Mozilla Firefox and Edge in Windows 10?

I get 10 lines fading out.

Bobby, can you see this link?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-we-re-keeping-you-informed-during-this-crisis-20200324-p54db0.html


Quote:

We made the decision early to remove the paywall from our daily live coverage of the pandemic.     James Chessell

Not sure why you cannot read the article in Gordon's link because it would normally be paywalled but they're letting people read it for free during the pandemic, unlike others such as The (Un)Australian which I mentioned in an earlier post.

Bobby, try clearing cookies/cache.

Gordon wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

Bobby, try clearing cookies/cache.

Yep, that's probably it. Thanks, Gordon.

Both my browsers are set to automatically clear cookies and cache, etc. when I close them (bit of a nuisance to keep signing in here and a few other sites every time I turn the computer on but I'm used to it).

Carl D wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 1:35pm: Bobby, try clearing cookies/cache. Yep, that's probably it. Thanks, Gordon. Both my browsers are set to automatically clear cookies and cache, etc. when I close them (bit of a nuisance to keep signing in here and a few other sites every time I turn the computer on but I'm used to it).

Stuff them and their paywall.

Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney.
Why did we allow them to come here?
Who is responsible?

The invaders are now going to kill thousands of Australians

WE DIDN'T WANT THEM HERE

A lot of people in NSW are probably wondering why this sort of thing is still happening.

Natalie Portman and Sacha Baron Cohen spotted taking boat ride in Sydney while under lockdown

https://www.perthnow.com.au/entertainment/movies/natalie-portman-and-sacha-baron-cohen-spotted-taking-boat-ride-in-sydney-while-under-lockdown-ng-b881924677z


Quote:

While much of Sydney is hunkered down under stay-at-home orders, Hollywood A-Listers Natalie Portman and Sacha Baron Cohen were making the most of the sunshine. The power pair was spotted in Pittwater, north of Sydney, taking a boat ride with Portman’s husband, Benjamin Millepied. They were spied on a rented boat with Portman and Millepied’s children, plus Cohen’s children with his Perth-raised wife, Isla Fisher. According to Sydney’s stay-stay-at home rules, which apply to people residing in the Greater Sydney including the Blue Mountains, Central Coast, Wollongong and Shellharbour local government areas, people are only allowed to leave home if they have a ‘reasonable excuse’.

Quote:

Portman had been in Australia to put the finishing touches on Thor: Love and Thunder, a sequel to 2017’s highly successful Thor: Ragnarok.

Ah, of course... that would have to be classified as an "essential service".  ::)

No wonder so many 'normal' people won't follow lockdown rules, etc.

Oh, and...


Quote:

New South Wales Police said they were aware of the boat ride and were “conducting inquiries into the matter”.

Yeah, I'll bet they are. And, I'll also bet this is probably the last we'll hear of it. ::)

You guys would be bitching and moaning about a lack of Australian films being produced if international actors were not allowed to film here for their Hollywood movies. Australia is building its movie business and we should probably be thankful that international actors can film here during a pandemic. It would lead Australia into prosperous territory with filmmaking in the future.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:54pm:

Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney. Why did we allow them to come here? Who is responsible?

The independence of India, and then the removal of the white Australia policy lead to Indians coming here. The fact is that we have plenty of ethnically Indian Australians that like to visit family each year. It is not as if we can keep the Australian citizens out of Australia, even though the government were trying.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:38am:

NSW is buggered - Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying - urging people to get their vaxes.

No.

She talked of 1000s of people being hospitalised, and death.

She didn't put a figure on deaths - just said there would be death.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:38am: NSW is buggered - Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying - urging people to get their vaxes. No. She talked of 1000s of people being hospitalised, and death. She didn't put a figure on deaths - just said there would be death.

1000s died of the flu in 2018.
not a word.
no masks
no social distancing

people have absorbed this false narrative into their dna.

every death is now 'catastrophic"
every case must be discussed in a daily news conference

the collective subconscious of the unthinking masses has gone round the bend

get some perspective.

try to grow a spine.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 4:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:38am: NSW is buggered - Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying - urging people to get their vaxes. No. She talked of 1000s of people being hospitalised, and death. She didn't put a figure on deaths - just said there would be death. 1000s died of the flu in 2018. not a word. no masks no social distancing people have absorbed this false narrative into their dna. every death is now 'catastrophic" every case must be discussed in a daily news conference the collective subconscious of the unthinking masses has gone round the bend get some perspective. try to grow a spine.

Not sure what you're on about, as usual.

I'm just explaining to Booby that he misheard what she said.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:38pm:

1000s died of the flu in 2018. not a word. no masks no social distancing people have absorbed this false narrative into their dna. every death is now 'catastrophic" every case must be discussed in a daily news conference the collective subconscious of the unthinking masses has gone round the bend get some perspective. try to grow a spine.

The other thing is that 300,000 Australians caught influenza in Australia in 2017. 900+ died. 30,000 people have confirmed cases of coronavirus in Australia, the year 2020/2021. 910 people have died.

You are usually bedridden for a few days with influenza. But, coronavirus has been made a political tool to be used against China. That is why politicians have been embellishing the importance of mask wearing and social distancing, etc.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:38am: NSW is buggered - Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying - urging people to get their vaxes. No. She talked of 1000s of people being hospitalised, and death. She didn't put a figure on deaths - just said there would be death.

The numbers are growing exponentially as she said so it's anybody's guess thanks to the migrants in Sydney's west.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-news-live-nsw-covid-19-cases-and-exposure-sites-continue-to-grow-police-descend-on-south-west-sydney-20210709-p5887x.html

https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/014/136/537/original/d2465b1ede7a6c66.jpeg

What you need to know

Here’s a recap of the day so far if you’re just tuning in:

   NSW recorded 44 new local cases of COVID-19,
including 27 people who were infectious in the community,
as Premier Gladys Berejiklian foreshadowed stay-at-home orders could be extended for a second time beyond next Friday.


    Restrictions for greater Sydney residents have been tightened, including limiting outdoor exercise to two people within 10 kilometres of the home.
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has promised Pfizer vaccine shipments will be brought forward within weeks, although the company said the overall number of doses it will provide this year has not increased.
    NSW Police deny they are discriminating by deploying more officers to patrol south-western Sydney as the virus spreads there. Some people worry the show of force will put the community offside.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 4:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:38am: NSW is buggered - Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying - urging people to get their vaxes. No. She talked of 1000s of people being hospitalised, and death. She didn't put a figure on deaths - just said there would be death. 1000s died of the flu in 2018. not a word. no masks no social distancing people have absorbed this false narrative into their dna. every death is now 'catastrophic" every case must be discussed in a daily news conference the collective subconscious of the unthinking masses has gone round the bend get some perspective. try to grow a spine.

You sure about that?

Masks
Distancing

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 4:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 4:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:38am: NSW is buggered - Gladys is on TV and is hysterical  talking of 1000s of people dying - urging people to get their vaxes. No. She talked of 1000s of people being hospitalised, and death. She didn't put a figure on deaths - just said there would be death. 1000s died of the flu in 2018. not a word. no masks no social distancing people have absorbed this false narrative into their dna. every death is now 'catastrophic" every case must be discussed in a daily news conference the collective subconscious of the unthinking masses has gone round the bend get some perspective. try to grow a spine. You sure about that? Masks Distancing

I think Aqua meant the 2017/18 flu season which bad one.

yes gordy  indeed.


america

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season.

and for oz....

While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases.

Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia


but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2

Gordon wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

I think Aqua meant the 2017/18 flu season which bad one.

Ah, OK, I don't remember that on...  :(
;D

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2

But how many would have died if we wouldn't have had those lockdowns.

ScoMo says at least 30,000.

I would say over 100,000.

Don't think NSW Gov can bring the virus under control next 2 weeks. They're just not doing enough. They need to push tough restrictions. Screen the whole community where there are cases.

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

Don't think NSW Gov can bring the virus under control next 2 weeks. They're just not doing enough. They need to push tough restrictions. Screen the whole community where there are cases.

Fo sho bro, we need the PLA to liberate us. ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2

I take a few months off and you're still spouting the same bullshit.

You're complaining that the measures we've all taken to keep the death rate low are unnecessary because the death rate is low...

You can type so you're not fully retarded, but you're not far off...

Nothing has changed in the time away... Unbelievable.

Aren't you bored of this poo?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 6:51pm: yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2 I take a few months off and you're still spouting the same bullshit. You're complaining that the measures we've all taken to keep the death rate low are unnecessary because the death rate is low... You can type so you're not fully retarded, but you're not far off... Nothing has changed in the time away... Unbelievable. Aren't you bored of this poo?

not bored at all.

i'm still trying to help people live a worthwhile life.

heres an experiment for you skippy.

go and sit on a chair in your bathroom by yourself.

just sit there.

you will find that anxiety starts to well up very quickly.

you will feel anxious and stressed the longer you are there.

anxiety , fear, stress....these are the default emotions and they are very painful.

how does society cope when thats the default.

it copes by having leaders and , yes, heads of households, doctors, heads of business who can present a courageous message that things will be ok.

if they fail in this duty.

if the pollies, or chief health officers, or dads and mums or journalists "catastrophise", they do a lot of damage to the mental health of people they are responsible for , especially kids.


i will not stand around and watch weaklings and cowards inflict their weakness and cowardice onto the emotional state of kids.

it is disgusting.

school refusal, seperation anxiety, self harm overdose, eating disorders are up 200 to 300 % in schoolkids and that is on YOU and people like YOU who wont present a calm sober message that this is a virus a bit worse then the flu and as a society we are more then capable of dealing with it and it is far far far from speices ending.

now, go away to where you have been for the last month or two (hiding under your bed) and let the kids see examples of confident brave courageous leadership , not bed wetting cowardice

what are you talking about "2"? its 910 so far

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 5:37am:

what are you talking about "2"? its 910 so far Spot

Ah, but 908 of those deaths were last year, Sir Spot.

All aqua now seems to be concerned about are the 2 deaths so far this year. And besides, most of the 908 from last year were the 'oldies' who needed to make the 'ultimate sacrifice' so the younger ones can 'flourish' (as aqua has been so fond of telling us over and over and over).

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia

And last year there were over 900 COVID deaths in Australia.

909, to be precise.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 5:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:42pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 6:51pm: yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2 I take a few months off and you're still spouting the same bullshit. You're complaining that the measures we've all taken to keep the death rate low are unnecessary because the death rate is low... You can type so you're not fully retarded, but you're not far off... Nothing has changed in the time away... Unbelievable. Aren't you bored of this poo? not bored at all. i'm still trying to help people live a worthwhile life. heres an experiment for you skippy. go and sit on a chair in your bathroom by yourself. just sit there. you will find that anxiety starts to well up very quickly. you will feel anxious and stressed the longer you are there. anxiety , fear, stress....these are the default emotions and they are very painful. how does society cope when thats the default. it copes by having leaders and , yes, heads of households, doctors, heads of business who can present a courageous message that things will be ok. if they fail in this duty. if the pollies, or chief health officers, or dads and mums or journalists "catastrophise", they do a lot of damage to the mental health of people they are responsible for , especially kids. i will not stand around and watch weaklings and cowards inflict their weakness and cowardice onto the emotional state of kids. it is disgusting. school refusal, seperation anxiety, self harm overdose, eating disorders are up 200 to 300 % in schoolkids and that is on YOU and people like YOU who wont present a calm sober message that this is a virus a bit worse then the flu and as a society we are more then capable of dealing with it and it is far far far from speices ending. now, go away to where you have been for the last month or two (hiding under your bed) and let the kids see examples of confident brave courageous leadership , not bed wetting cowardice

Good point. We need fearless leaders who are prepared to send their vaccines off to the noble Gurkhas.

The courageous individual asks for saline solution instead.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-update-greater-sydney-begins-new-lockdown-restrictions-case-numbers-surge/ea055b40-4290-467c-8937-f5b069518336


New South Wales has recorded 50 new cases of COVID-19 since yesterday, breaking yesterday's record for the highest number of daily cases since April last year.


Of these locally acquired cases, 37 are linked to a known case or cluster, 14 are household contacts and 23 are close contacts. The source of infection for 13 cases remains under investigation.
Premier Gladys Berejiklian has called on more people to come forward for testing after 42,000 people were tested for COVID-19 in the last 24 hours.
The number of people hospitalised with COVID-19 has grown again overnight with a teenager also now being treated in ICU.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 5:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:42pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 6:51pm: yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2 I take a few months off and you're still spouting the same bullshit. You're complaining that the measures we've all taken to keep the death rate low are unnecessary because the death rate is low... You can type so you're not fully retarded, but you're not far off... Nothing has changed in the time away... Unbelievable. Aren't you bored of this poo? not bored at all. i'm still trying to help people live a worthwhile life. heres an experiment for you skippy. go and sit on a chair in your bathroom by yourself. just sit there. you will find that anxiety starts to well up very quickly. you will feel anxious and stressed the longer you are there. anxiety , fear, stress....these are the default emotions and they are very painful.

I'm sorry that this is your experience in life, but it's not the default.  You're projecting your own insecurities and likely undiagnosed mental health issues onto the rest of us. 

I don't blame you.  I often judge others based on what I would do which is why I'm so often let down by people.  What's normal for me, things like taking an evidence-based approach to my opinions and looking for dissenting views and opinions to challenge my own, I shouldn't project that onto others.  It may be my normal, my default, but it's not for everyone.

Like you.

You seem time and time again to ignore the things that don't support your views.

The simple truth is, our death count is low because of the actions we've taken.  You complain that the actions we've taken are unnecessary because the death count is low.

The truth is, that's simply proof our actions are working.  But you don't like those actions so you want to paint it as something else.

When you're in lockdown, you're anxious, you're scared and life is unpleasant.  I sympathise, but that just points to the issues you have at home.  Rather than wanting the virus to spread before we can all be vaccinated, more people to face lifelong health issues or even die, just get help you selfish bastard.

Lockdowns, check-ins, social distancing etc, they're all a challenge on a personal level, let alone economic.  But man up, stop being a bitch and deal with your own problems, don't advocate for others face greater problems so you can run from yours.

Problems don't make you weak, we all have them.  Being a coward and running from them or lying about them, that mixed with the toxic ideas of masculinity you hold makes you one of the worst types of people out there, weak and pathetic.

I'm not trying to shame you for having problems, but your method of dealing with them, or in that case running from them, you should be ashamed.

But I dare say you also hold a stunning lack of empathy for your fellow man despite your lipservice to the idea.

If you actually cared about other people and their experience during lockdowns you'd be advocating for us all to do the right thing so we can get through this quicker.

But you're not you big baby.

ABC 24 latest news.

16 Covid patients are in intensive care.

1 is a teenager.

The best reality tv show I've seen in years .... "Covid Spreads It's Wings" .... great viewing! It's about blame shifting from the organizers to the peeps, and the organizers are pleading innocence on the grounds that they can display a higher degree of frustration than anyone else ... "Please do the right thing, PLEASE"

Doing the right thing would be reprimanding and voting out all the organizers who pretend they themselves weren't to blame and who should have stopped Covid spreading it's wings from international flight crews

Real estate is being snapped up west of the Blue Mountains, seems a lot of big city folk are following my lead and waking up to the self interested organizers

It's a great show, tops the entertainment list   

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 12:19pm:

The best reality tv show I've seen in years .... "Covid Spreads It's Wings" .... great viewing! It's about blame shifting from the organizers to the peeps, and the organizers are pleading innocence on the grounds that they can display a higher degree of frustration than anyone else ... "Please do the right thing, PLEASE" Doing the right thing would be reprimanding and voting out all the organizers who pretend they themselves weren't to blame and who should have stopped Covid spreading it's wings from international flight crews Real estate is being snapped up west of the Blue Mountains, seems a lot of big city folk are following my lead and waking up to the self interested organizers It's a great show, tops the entertainment list

Not enough people have the vax - we'll get new lockdowns in Melbourne
because it will come here too.
I'm fed up with lockdowns -
I've been through over 160 days of lockdowns
one was 112 days long.
I've had one shot of AZ - that will give me 70% effectiveness against dying from the killer delta Indian strain.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:59am:

I often judge others based on what I would do which is why I'm so often let down by people.

LOL, did we hear you right? You judge others based on what YOU would do?

No flies on you, is there?

Melbourne had 5 kilometer restriction. Sydney had none before. That's the why it takes longer and not under control at all.

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 1:23pm:

Melbourne had 5 kilometer restriction. Sydney had none before. That's the why it takes longer and not under control at all.

Still, not as deep in the sh!t as Guangdong, but.

Are we doomed to more lockdowns in Melbourne?



Bobby. wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:44am:

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-update-greater-sydney-begins-new-lockdown-restrictions-case-numbers-surge/ea055b40-4290-467c-8937-f5b069518336 New South Wales has recorded 50 new cases of COVID-19 since yesterday, breaking yesterday's record for the highest number of daily cases since April last year. Of these locally acquired cases, 37 are linked to a known case or cluster, 14 are household contacts and 23 are close contacts. The source of infection for 13 cases remains under investigation. Premier Gladys Berejiklian has called on more people to come forward for testing after 42,000 people were tested for COVID-19 in the last 24 hours. The number of people hospitalised with COVID-19 has grown again overnight with a teenager also now being treated in ICU.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 12:06pm:

ABC 24 latest news. 16 Covid patients are in intensive care. 1 is a teenager.

how many deaths bobs???? or have we stopped  counting them?

DOOMED! oh bobby, your life sounds so meladramatic so full of gloom and doom....always looking on the worst side.. :'(

cods wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

DOOMED! oh bobby, your life sounds so meladramatic so full of gloom and doom....always looking on the worst side.. :'(

I'll survive Cods - as I've had my vax.

cods wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

DOOMED! oh bobby, your life sounds so meladramatic so full of gloom and doom....always looking on the worst side.. :'(

Yes, dear, but not if he's complaining about a Labor government being elected.

DITCH THE WITCH.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:45pm:

cods wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 2:43pm: DOOMED! oh bobby, your life sounds so meladramatic so full of gloom and doom....always looking on the worst side.. :'( I'll survive Cods - as I've had my vax.

so you are one of the LUCKY onesstop looming so gloomy then..we are still the lucky country  this is just an inconvenience not a lifestyle..

cods wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 12:06pm: ABC 24 latest news. 16 Covid patients are in intensive care. 1 is a teenager. how many deaths bobs???? or have we stopped  counting them?

What do you recommend ? The Trump method and see if we can get to 600,000?

You really hate our success in saving lives ?

Even NoGo has done ok.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 5:37am:

what are you talking about "2"? its 910 so far Spot

this year numb nuts
::) ::) ::) ::)

Dnarever wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:54pm:

cods wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 12:06pm: ABC 24 latest news. 16 Covid patients are in intensive care. 1 is a teenager. how many deaths bobs???? or have we stopped  counting them? What do you recommend ? The Trump method and see if we can get to 600,000? You really hate our success in saving lives ?

oh dear,, what did I say  ::) ::) 

I WAS BEING SARCASTIC  to bobbys  constant gloom and doom about everything...or would you rather read doom and gloom all the time?????...you want to talk about trump go to the Amerikan board to get your fill I am sure greg will oblige you! dont bring it into a thread about NSW.. :-/

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 5:35am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:42pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 6:51pm: yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2 I take a few months off and you're still spouting the same bullshit. You're complaining that the measures we've all taken to keep the death rate low are unnecessary because the death rate is low... You can type so you're not fully retarded, but you're not far off... Nothing has changed in the time away... Unbelievable. Aren't you bored of this poo? not bored at all. i'm still trying to help people live a worthwhile life. heres an experiment for you skippy. go and sit on a chair in your bathroom by yourself. just sit there. you will find that anxiety starts to well up very quickly. you will feel anxious and stressed the longer you are there. anxiety , fear, stress....these are the default emotions and they are very painful. I'm sorry that this is your experience in life, but it's not the default.  You're projecting your own insecurities and likely undiagnosed mental health issues onto the rest of us.  I don't blame you.  I often judge others based on what I would do which is why I'm so often let down by people.  What's normal for me, things like taking an evidence-based approach to my opinions and looking for dissenting views and opinions to challenge my own, I shouldn't project that onto others.  It may be my normal, my default, but it's not for everyone. Like you. You seem time and time again to ignore the things that don't support your views. The simple truth is, our death count is low because of the actions we've taken.  You complain that the actions we've taken are unnecessary because the death count is low. The truth is, that's simply proof our actions are working.  But you don't like those actions so you want to paint it as something else. When you're in lockdown, you're anxious, you're scared and life is unpleasant.  I sympathise, but that just points to the issues you have at home.  Rather than wanting the virus to spread before we can all be vaccinated, more people to face lifelong health issues or even die, just get help you selfish bastard. Lockdowns, check-ins, social distancing etc, they're all a challenge on a personal level, let alone economic.  But man up, stop being a bitch and deal with your own problems, don't advocate for others face greater problems so you can run from yours. Problems don't make you weak, we all have them.  Being a coward and running from them or lying about them, that mixed with the toxic ideas of masculinity you hold makes you one of the worst types of people out there, weak and pathetic. I'm not trying to shame you for having problems, but your method of dealing with them, or in that case running from them, you should be ashamed. But I dare say you also hold a stunning lack of empathy for your fellow man despite your lipservice to the idea. If you actually cared about other people and their experience during lockdowns you'd be advocating for us all to do the right thing so we can get through this quicker. But you're not you big baby.

oh please.

its not me that has problems.

any society which puts the needs of old people in front of the needs of kids is doomed.

i can see you lot on the titanic.

loading the old codgers into the lifeboats because they are just as valuable as children.

disgraceful stuff .

what is good for my kids and grandkids takes precedence over what is good for me.
FFS
whats wrong with you

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 5:37am: what are you talking about "2"? its 910 so far Spot this year numb nuts ::) ::) ::) ::)

How many deaths in the US, dear?

I'm curious.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 11:59am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 5:35am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:42pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 6:51pm: yes gordy  indeed. america CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. and for oz.... While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases. Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia but the catastrophic death rate this year from covid stands at  2 I take a few months off and you're still spouting the same bullshit. You're complaining that the measures we've all taken to keep the death rate low are unnecessary because the death rate is low... You can type so you're not fully retarded, but you're not far off... Nothing has changed in the time away... Unbelievable. Aren't you bored of this poo? not bored at all. i'm still trying to help people live a worthwhile life. heres an experiment for you skippy. go and sit on a chair in your bathroom by yourself. just sit there. you will find that anxiety starts to well up very quickly. you will feel anxious and stressed the longer you are there. anxiety , fear, stress....these are the default emotions and they are very painful. I'm sorry that this is your experience in life, but it's not the default.  You're projecting your own insecurities and likely undiagnosed mental health issues onto the rest of us.  I don't blame you.  I often judge others based on what I would do which is why I'm so often let down by people.  What's normal for me, things like taking an evidence-based approach to my opinions and looking for dissenting views and opinions to challenge my own, I shouldn't project that onto others.  It may be my normal, my default, but it's not for everyone. Like you. You seem time and time again to ignore the things that don't support your views. The simple truth is, our death count is low because of the actions we've taken.  You complain that the actions we've taken are unnecessary because the death count is low. The truth is, that's simply proof our actions are working.  But you don't like those actions so you want to paint it as something else. When you're in lockdown, you're anxious, you're scared and life is unpleasant.  I sympathise, but that just points to the issues you have at home.  Rather than wanting the virus to spread before we can all be vaccinated, more people to face lifelong health issues or even die, just get help you selfish bastard. Lockdowns, check-ins, social distancing etc, they're all a challenge on a personal level, let alone economic.  But man up, stop being a bitch and deal with your own problems, don't advocate for others face greater problems so you can run from yours. Problems don't make you weak, we all have them.  Being a coward and running from them or lying about them, that mixed with the toxic ideas of masculinity you hold makes you one of the worst types of people out there, weak and pathetic. I'm not trying to shame you for having problems, but your method of dealing with them, or in that case running from them, you should be ashamed. But I dare say you also hold a stunning lack of empathy for your fellow man despite your lipservice to the idea. If you actually cared about other people and their experience during lockdowns you'd be advocating for us all to do the right thing so we can get through this quicker. But you're not you big baby. oh please. its not me that has problems. any society which puts the needs of old people in front of the needs of kids is doomed. i can see you lot on the titanic. loading the old codgers into the lifeboats because they are just as valuable as children. disgraceful stuff . what is good for my kids and grandkids takes precedence over what is good for me. FFS whats wrong with you

Oh?

https://www.9news.com.au/national/sixteen-coronavirus-patients-in-intensive-care-unit-including-teenager/ef90fa3e-73f4-4aab-b1bb-2ca15661dff6

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 5:37am: what are you talking about "2"? its 910 so far Spot this year numb nuts ::) ::) ::) ::)

Why did you compare it to flu statistics from last year?

I'm curious.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

oh please. its not me that has problems.

Again, I don't mean to belittle your mental health issues and I was not trying to trigger you.


Quote:

any society which puts the needs of old people in front of the needs of kids is doomed. i can see you lot on the titanic. loading the old codgers into the lifeboats because they are just as valuable as children. disgraceful stuff .

You're all over the shop mate, get it together.  I know I may have hit a little to close to home but you don't have to have a meltdown.

On one hand, you're saying that COVID is nothing for the young to worry about (despite the medical evidence and age groups of those in ICU in NSW at the moment), with the Titanic, a disaster that if you weren't in a life boat, you were guaranteed to die.

So which is it, is COVID nothing to worry about, or a death sentence?

Or are you just being manipulative and disingenuous with your comparison?


Quote:

what is good for my kids and grandkids takes precedence over what is good for me. FFS whats wrong with you

As it should be.  But that's not what you're advocating for.  You want the virus to run while so you don't have to be scared and anxious at home...

Once we're all vaccinated this is the goal, it won't be as transmissible in the community and those vaccinated have a much lower chance of getting any illness or needing hospitalization.

But until then, the virus running wild through the community gives it a chance to mutate and evolve, as we're seeing.  The delta variant is far more contagious and it's not just "old people" who are at risk of having a severe reaction to it.

We can't keep locking down forever, nobody wants that anyway, but we need to have a plan to reopen and return to life as normal, or to a point of "living with the virus".

Sadly we've been let down by our federal leadership as they are the ones responsible for our border security and quarantine system but most importantly the Vaccine rollout which is paramount to that end.

Instead of cherry-picking numbers, projecting your mental health issues and weaknesses onto everyone else, hold those responsible to account.

The Federal Government needs to do better, supported by the states and local health systems once they can secure enough vaccines and we can all put this behind us and you can go back to obsessing over young boys playing big men and how bad women are.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 1:54pm:

Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney. Why did we allow them to come here? Who is responsible?

It was a Fed Ex flight crew from the US who brought it here then gave it to the driver who transported them into quarantine.

This ethnic driver refused to be vaccinated and didn't wear a mask.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 1:54pm: Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney. Why did we allow them to come here? Who is responsible? It was a Fed Ex flight crew from the US who brought it here then gave it to the driver who transported them into quarantine. This ethnic driver refused to be vaccinated and didn't wear a mask.

Fed Ex flight crew?

I thought it was an Indian traveler and Australian citizen?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 7:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 7:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 1:54pm: Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney. Why did we allow them to come here? Who is responsible? It was a Fed Ex flight crew from the US who brought it here then gave it to the driver who transported them into quarantine. This ethnic driver refused to be vaccinated and didn't wear a mask. Fed Ex flight crew? I thought it was an Indian traveler and Australian citizen?

Yes it came from the US.

NSW health did genomic sequence about a month ago which showed driver had same delta variant as flight crew he transported.

That driver then spread it around Bondi Vaucluse etc which started this outbreak.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 8:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 7:59pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 7:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 1:54pm: Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney. Why did we allow them to come here? Who is responsible? It was a Fed Ex flight crew from the US who brought it here then gave it to the driver who transported them into quarantine. This ethnic driver refused to be vaccinated and didn't wear a mask. Fed Ex flight crew? I thought it was an Indian traveler and Australian citizen? Yes it came from the US. NSW health did genomic sequence about a month ago which showed driver had same delta variant as flight crew he transported. That driver then spread it around Bondi Vaucluse etc which started this outbreak.

Wow - how long before we get a delta outbreak in Melbourne?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 8:30pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 8:08pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 7:59pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 7:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 1:54pm: Filthy Indians brought the Indian Delta variant to Sydney. Why did we allow them to come here? Who is responsible? It was a Fed Ex flight crew from the US who brought it here then gave it to the driver who transported them into quarantine. This ethnic driver refused to be vaccinated and didn't wear a mask. Fed Ex flight crew? I thought it was an Indian traveler and Australian citizen? Yes it came from the US. NSW health did genomic sequence about a month ago which showed driver had same delta variant as flight crew he transported. That driver then spread it around Bondi Vaucluse etc which started this outbreak. Wow - how long before we get a delta outbreak in Melbourne?

This outbreak in NSW was caused by a quarantine failure from one person.

Who knows where the next outbreak will be.

The Israelis who have the highest vaccination rate in the world are finding the Fizzer vaccine isn't as effective with Delta variant. They had no cases for a couple of months this Delta variant is causing another outbreak there.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

It must be hard for the racists who want to target the background of those who are involved in the latest outbreak because they're usually the sort of mouth breathers who are anti-vaxx.

In those cases you can bet they'll be pro-vaxx to stick it to an "ethnic" but when it comes to their turn to roll up their sleeve something something freedom and when they're asked to wear a mask something something they don't work or even check in anywhere, tinfoil time...

I used to think that sort of low IQ nonsense was limited to the confines of places like this but sadly, even during the vacation from these parts, it was still encountered in the real world.

There are sadly more idiots than I think our society can tolerate in a sustained period of adversity such as that we face now.

We've had it too good for too long.

Shame, I always wanted the generations that come after us to be better, to learn from our mistakes.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 8:51pm:

It must be hard for the racists who want to target the background of those who are involved in the latest outbreak because they're usually the sort of mouth breathers who are anti-vaxx.

Yes the driver does have an ethnic background he refused to be vaccinated wasn't wearing a mask and there are serious questions whether the company he worked for complied with the daily covid testing rules for those working with people in quarantine.

He even went on the news and tried to deny he was patient zero despite the fact NSW health linked him to the Fed Ex crew he transported with genomic sequencing. He even tried to claim he caught it in a cafe in Vaucluse he went to every day.

This driver was an ethnic anti vaxxer who caused NSW to be locked down again.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 8:51pm:

It must be hard for the racists who want to target the background of those who are involved in the latest outbreak because they're usually the sort of mouth breathers who are anti-vaxx. In those cases you can bet they'll be pro-vaxx to stick it to an "ethnic" but when it comes to their turn to roll up their sleeve something something freedom and when they're asked to wear a mask something something they don't work or even check in anywhere, tinfoil time... I used to think that sort of low IQ nonsense was limited to the confines of places like this but sadly, even during the vacation from these parts, it was still encountered in the real world. There are sadly more idiots than I think our society can tolerate in a sustained period of adversity such as that we face now. We've had it too good for too long. Shame, I always wanted the generations that come after us to be better, to learn from our mistakes.

Nonsense. The Chows started it, and the Curries finished the job. The cops are now cracking down in South Western Sydney.

And we all know who lives there, no?

Muslims.

It's come full circle, Sad. They're still trying to infect us. Oh, and the leftards are trying to cover it all up. You won't read this in the mainstream media.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:10pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 8:51pm: It must be hard for the racists who want to target the background of those who are involved in the latest outbreak because they're usually the sort of mouth breathers who are anti-vaxx. Yes the driver does have an ethnic background he refused to be vaccinated wasn't wearing a mask and there are serious questions whether the company he worked for complied with the daily covid testing rules for those working with people in quarantine. He even went on the news and tried to deny he was patient zero despite the fact NSW health linked him to the Fed Ex crew he transported with genomic sequencing. He even tried to claim he caught it in a cafe in Vaucluse he went to every day. This driver was an ethnic anti vaxxer who caused NSW to be locked down again.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE, NO?

cods wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 2:54pm: cods wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 2:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 12:06pm: ABC 24 latest news. 16 Covid patients are in intensive care. 1 is a teenager. how many deaths bobs???? or have we stopped  counting them? What do you recommend ? The Trump method and see if we can get to 600,000? You really hate our success in saving lives ? oh dear,, what did I say  ::) ::)  I WAS BEING SARCASTIC  to bobbys  constant gloom and doom about everything...or would you rather read doom and gloom all the time?????...you want to talk about trump go to the Amerikan board to get your fill I am sure greg will oblige you! dont bring it into a thread about NSW.. :-/

Sorry Cods I didn't pick up your sarcasm at all. However the worst case type scenario is relevant to the topic as it is literally what could happen here in NSW.

How is it racist to see that people coming in from certain countries/regions are the problem here... also often including their refusal to lock down etc??

Quick - look under that bed... there might be some there!!

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 10:59pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 8:51pm: It must be hard for the racists who want to target the background of those who are involved in the latest outbreak because they're usually the sort of mouth breathers who are anti-vaxx. In those cases you can bet they'll be pro-vaxx to stick it to an "ethnic" but when it comes to their turn to roll up their sleeve something something freedom and when they're asked to wear a mask something something they don't work or even check in anywhere, tinfoil time... I used to think that sort of low IQ nonsense was limited to the confines of places like this but sadly, even during the vacation from these parts, it was still encountered in the real world. There are sadly more idiots than I think our society can tolerate in a sustained period of adversity such as that we face now. We've had it too good for too long. Shame, I always wanted the generations that come after us to be better, to learn from our mistakes. Nonsense. The Chows started it, and the Curries finished the job. The cops are now cracking down in South Western Sydney. And we all know who lives there, no? Muslims. It's come full circle, Sad. They're still trying to infect us. Oh, and the leftards are trying to cover it all up. You won't read this in the mainstream media. WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

You left out the Vietnamers - they're a seedy lot, too... they do have the courtesy to fight the Mussos.... give 'em all enough rope and soon it will be problem solved out that way...

They'll be worried that their daily activities of drug running and turf warring will be hampered by all those police trying to make sure they stay home for 14 days after coming in from disease=ridden Asianistan.

Every country they come in from is over-run by Covid and deaths...

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 4:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 3:03pm: oh please. its not me that has problems. Again, I don't mean to belittle your mental health issues and I was not trying to trigger you. Quote: any society which puts the needs of old people in front of the needs of kids is doomed. i can see you lot on the titanic. loading the old codgers into the lifeboats because they are just as valuable as children. disgraceful stuff . You're all over the shop mate, get it together.  I know I may have hit a little to close to home but you don't have to have a meltdown. On one hand, you're saying that COVID is nothing for the young to worry about (despite the medical evidence and age groups of those in ICU in NSW at the moment), with the Titanic, a disaster that if you weren't in a life boat, you were guaranteed to die. So which is it, is COVID nothing to worry about, or a death sentence? Or are you just being manipulative and disingenuous with your comparison? [quote]what is good for my kids and grandkids takes precedence over what is good for me. FFS whats wrong with you

As it should be.  But that's not what you're advocating for.  You want the virus to run while so you don't have to be scared and anxious at home...

Once we're all vaccinated this is the goal, it won't be as transmissible in the community and those vaccinated have a much lower chance of getting any illness or needing hospitalization.

But until then, the virus running wild through the community gives it a chance to mutate and evolve, as we're seeing.  The delta variant is far more contagious and it's not just "old people" who are at risk of having a severe reaction to it.

We can't keep locking down forever, nobody wants that anyway, but we need to have a plan to reopen and return to life as normal, or to a point of "living with the virus".

Sadly we've been let down by our federal leadership as they are the ones responsible for our border security and quarantine system but most importantly the Vaccine rollout which is paramount to that end.

Instead of cherry-picking numbers, projecting your mental health issues and weaknesses onto everyone else, hold those responsible to account.

The Federal Government needs to do better, supported by the states and local health systems once they can secure enough vaccines and we can all put this behind us and you can go back to obsessing over young boys playing big men and how bad women are.
[/quote]

absolute rubbish,

the restrictions have zero effect on me. my businesses are essential services and to do with food production. i can go where i please.  if i want to go and buy hay in the hunter valley i can get a permit in 3 minutes on line and be on my way.

what affects me is seeing my grandkids and kids missing out on the adventures of childhood, missing out on playing school footy and spending school holidays at the beach.

unlike the current crop of incredibly selfish older australians who have made this all about them, i have had a greqt life and could not care a toss if i got covid compared to the pain of seeing grandkids miss out on human flourishing.

your attitude disgusts me

‘We have clearly heard that COVID–19 hasn’t just impacted the day-to-day lives of children and young people, but is having a wider and deeper impact on our next generation,’ Commissioner Mohamed said.

Broader safety concerns included increasing conflict, tension and violence within families. Young people reported that their usual strategies for seeking safety, such as leaving the house, seeking relief at school, or staying with friends and extended family, have been cut off.

Workers in organisations supporting children and young people are concerned there are ‘fewer eyes on kids’, with some perceiving the risks faced by vulnerable children and young people during lockdown as outweighing COVID.

‘This is a vital perspective that we cannot afford to miss. Although many services have adapted their approach to working with children and young people, there is no question that at a time of heightened risk in families, vulnerable children and young people are less visible and have less access to support. We must balance the need to tackle the virus while also addressing the risk of violence, abuse and neglect at home,’ Commissioner Buchanan said.

Another strong theme from the consultations related to mental health. While some are managing well, most children and young people consulted described a negative impact on their mental health and wellbeing. Loneliness, isolation, disruption of routines and coping mechanisms are being coupled with the stress of remote learning, precarious employment, and unstable housing. Children and young people are also distressed by news and social media, with many having fears for their future.

Many children and young people were frank about the lockdown exacerbating existing mental health issues. Others spoke of experiencing mental ill health for the first time, and a disturbing number spoke about concerns of suicide and self-harm.

‘In the midst of this clear distress, most children and young people told us they prefer face-to-face support services, with phone and online services creating barriers for some needing help with their mental health for the first time,’ Commissioner Buchanan said.

Remote learning also posed challenges for children and young people, with its impact often dependent on the degree of support children and young people already received.

‘Students with good supports at home often described a positive experience of remote learning. Some children and young people praised their teachers’ commitment and appreciated the support and communication. But we heard from many who feel support is limited and for students already doing it tough, remote education simply doesn’t work.

‘We heard this from children in large families, in families that could not afford or did not know how to use technology, families where parents were working or could not read or had other issues preventing them from helping their children. We also heard particular concerns about the impact on students with disability or special learning needs.

‘For vulnerable children already at risk of disengagement, the impact on their education could be devastating and permanent. We will need a major effort and investment to address education gaps widened by the pandemic,’ Commissioner Buchanan said.

‘It is vital these concerns directly shape the responses on the ground. This consultation has shown us just how inter-connected are the factors that support the wellbeing and safety of children and young people, yet in many ways the pandemic is a time of profound disconnection,’ Commissioner Mohamed concluded.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 5:45am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 4:43pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 3:03pm: oh please. its not me that has problems. Again, I don't mean to belittle your mental health issues and I was not trying to trigger you. Quote: any society which puts the needs of old people in front of the needs of kids is doomed. i can see you lot on the titanic. loading the old codgers into the lifeboats because they are just as valuable as children. disgraceful stuff . You're all over the shop mate, get it together.  I know I may have hit a little to close to home but you don't have to have a meltdown. On one hand, you're saying that COVID is nothing for the young to worry about (despite the medical evidence and age groups of those in ICU in NSW at the moment), with the Titanic, a disaster that if you weren't in a life boat, you were guaranteed to die. So which is it, is COVID nothing to worry about, or a death sentence? Or are you just being manipulative and disingenuous with your comparison? [quote]what is good for my kids and grandkids takes precedence over what is good for me. FFS whats wrong with you As it should be.  But that's not what you're advocating for.  You want the virus to run while so you don't have to be scared and anxious at home... Once we're all vaccinated this is the goal, it won't be as transmissible in the community and those vaccinated have a much lower chance of getting any illness or needing hospitalization. But until then, the virus running wild through the community gives it a chance to mutate and evolve, as we're seeing.  The delta variant is far more contagious and it's not just "old people" who are at risk of having a severe reaction to it. We can't keep locking down forever, nobody wants that anyway, but we need to have a plan to reopen and return to life as normal, or to a point of "living with the virus". Sadly we've been let down by our federal leadership as they are the ones responsible for our border security and quarantine system but most importantly the Vaccine rollout which is paramount to that end. Instead of cherry-picking numbers, projecting your mental health issues and weaknesses onto everyone else, hold those responsible to account. The Federal Government needs to do better, supported by the states and local health systems once they can secure enough vaccines and we can all put this behind us and you can go back to obsessing over young boys playing big men and how bad women are.

absolute rubbish,

the restrictions have zero effect on me. my businesses are essential services and to do with food production. i can go where i please.  if i want to go and buy hay in the hunter valley i can get a permit in 3 minutes on line and be on my way.

what affects me is seeing my grandkids and kids missing out on the adventures of childhood, missing out on playing school footy and spending school holidays at the beach.

unlike the current crop of incredibly selfish older australians who have made this all about them, i have had a greqt life and could not care a toss if i got covid compared to the pain of seeing grandkids miss out on human flourishing.

your attitude disgusts me
[/quote]

Your projection would say otherwise, but that's cool bro, keep running from your problems and pilling yourself even further.

I was only trying to help after picking up on your obvious cries for help, but no matter, it's better for my own mental heath to simply not give a poo about your crotchety old ass anyway.

Who cares that there is light at the end of the tunnels, let's just burn the place to the ground and negate the sacrifices we've all made in the last 1.5+ years so you can feel better, errr, I mean, you can feign compassion for your grandkids by advocating for the death of others.

Boomers be boom'n.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 1:44am:

How is it racist to see that people coming in from certain countries/regions are the problem here... also often including their refusal to lock down etc?? Quick - look under that bed... there might be some there!!

Er, no one's coming in from certain countries.

Whoops. Wacist.

Of the 79 locally asquared cases, 77 locally asquared cases, the vast majority continue to be from south-western Sydney.

"I need to give frank advice that the case numbers in south-western Sydney are extraordinarily high. We know transmission is going through households, from household to household."


https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/live-breaking-news-graph-shows-severity-of-sydney-outbreak-compared-to-vic/live-coverage/0dce16c51d7ad750ef48ec1717269b45

Gladys is hysterical:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-11/nsw-records-77-new-covid19-case/100284316


NSW records 77 new COVID-19 cases,

one death with 33 in community while infectious

Posted 23m ago
23 minutes ago
, updated 3m ago


https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/014/198/241/original/2e76c3d8b339b085.jpeg



NSW recorded 77 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday and one fatality.

Thirty-three of the cases have been out in the community while infectious.

NSW Health confirmed a woman in her 90s from south west Sydney died yesterday at Liverpool Hospital.

It is the first COVID death in NSW since December 2020.

She was a close contact of a locally acquired case and was tested for COVID-19 on Friday, returning a positive result early yesterday morning.

"Regrettably, that person did acquire it within the household, within the home setting. I can't stress enough that every time we risk breaking the rules or even just going about our business and not getting tested when we need to, the people whose lives and health that we're risking the most are those closest to us," Premier Gladys Berejiklian said.

Chief health officer Kerry Chant said she believed the woman was not vaccinated.

The Premier said she expected a marked increase in the numbers in the next 24 hours.

"I'm anticipating the numbers in New South Wales will be greater than 100 tomorrow.
Now, that's what I'm anticipating.

"And I'll be shocked if it's less than 100 this time tomorrow, of additional new cases."

She again implored the community to follow the rules. She also highlighted a new risk from essential workers, such as tradies, who visited multiple sites.

Of the new locally acquired cases, 55 were linked to a known case or cluster — 39 household contacts and 16 close contacts — and the source of infection for 22 cases remained under investigation.

Dr Chant reiterated the Premier's warning about staying home.

"Please stay at home and that means staying within the one household. Do not leave that household setting and do not interact with other family members."

Currently, 52 COVID-19 cases are in hospital, with 15 people in intensive care, five of whom require ventilation.

More than 48,000 tests were taken during the reporting period.

More to come.

I hope they're wrong about the projections, but going by other regions with this variant I'm not hopeful.

So long as her grandkids broke the lockdown rules and went out to party, bringing the virus home and killing her, it will all be worth it hey Scoot?

Better than getting anxious on the toilet like you.  She was 90 anyway.  Can't let her life get in the way of not having to stay at home.

The math checks out.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 11:46am:

I hope they're wrong about the projections, but going by other regions with this variant I'm not hopeful. So long as her grandkids broke the lockdown rules and went out to party, bringing the virus home and killing her, it will all be worth it hey Scoot? Better than getting anxious on the toilet like you.  She was 90 anyway.  Can't let her life get in the way of not having to stay at home. The math checks out.

Dirty Dan is telling Victorians in NSW to come home now - they will bring it here.

"I'm anticipating the numbers in New South Wales
will be greater than 100 tomorrow

Why wasn't the 90 year old vaccinated?

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/harsher-lockdown-the-only-real-option-left-to-save-sydney-from-covid19/news-story/2b2c5fcdd80460c907fa023c52d618a2

https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/014/198/241/original/2e76c3d8b339b085.jpeg


NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian is being urged to call in the military to enforce a total lockdown
in greater Sydney as a last-ditch effort to control the virus numbers amid fears infection rates are set to spike in coming days.

Epidemiologist Tony Blakely told news.com.au that the state faces three grim choices after daily case numbers spiked to 77 in a single day and the only “real option” was a draconian lockdown enforced with troops on the streets.

Those three options are: the ‘let it rip’ approach and allowing the Delta variant to circulate in the community, continue with a partial lockdown with many retail stores still open and a third option which is send in the troops and more police.

Divisions have emerged in recent days in the Berejiklian Government amid reports there was opposition in NSW cabinet to extending the lockdown, including from Treasurer Dominic Perrottet who is working on a major rescue and support package for businesses and workers left reeling from the shutdown.

But the NSW Premier has warned that allowing the virus to circulate is simply not an option until vaccination rates in Australia are much higher and a majority of the adult population is vaccinated.

“They can shrug their shoulders and say, ‘we can‘t control it.’
That would be horrific.
Thousands of deaths, health services overwhelmed,’’ Dr Blakely said.

So, 77 people yesterday tested positive for a virus, out of 40,000+ tests. And if they cannot track where those people went in the last week, that would be unusual.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 12:42pm:

So, 77 people yesterday tested positive for a virus, out of 40,000+ tests. And if they cannot track where those people went in the last week, that would be unusual.

It will be here in Melbourne soon.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

Dirty Dan is telling Victorians in NSW to come home now - they will bring it here. "I'm anticipating the numbers in New South Wales will be greater than 100 tomorrow

And, if that doesn't happen you may be getting it 'indirectly', Bobby.

Launceston to Melbourne flight announced as an exposure site

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-victoria-updates-launceston-to-melbourne-flight-listed-as-an-exposure-site/1401e682-a287-41dc-8146-98e725f68d15


Quote:

Victoria's Department of Health has contacted passengers on a recent Launceston to Melbourne flight that included a passenger who has since tested positive for COVID-19 in London. The passenger landed at Melbourne Airport on July 2, transferred to the International Terminal, and then flew to London via Singapore. Due to the brief time the case spent at Melbourne Airport and the lack of current evidence that the case contracted the illness in Tasmania, the Melbourne domestic and international terminals are not considered exposure sites.

Still beats me why so many people are travelling all over Australia and around the world while we're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic?

Someone was also asking on Twitter the other day what was going on with all these flights arriving in Melbourne (apparently mostly from China and the US) which the writer claims were not on the 'official' list of flights and the passengers getting off them were not going to hotel quarantine but were being driven off to places unknown.

No wonder we keep getting more and more Covid outbreaks.

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 1:20pm:

Still beats me why so many people are travelling all over Australia and around the world while we're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic?

People are still lining up for Daniel's Doughnuts during a pandemic.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jak9wBBcF68D/

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 11:53am:

Why wasn't the 90 year old vaccinated?

Tinted

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 1:46pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 1:20pm: Still beats me why so many people are travelling all over Australia and around the world while we're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic? People are still lining up for Daniel's Doughnuts during a pandemic. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jak9wBBcF68D/

So unfair. How can these people wear masks while he's out of work? They should hang their heads in shame, no?

Monkeys.

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 11:53am:

Why wasn't the 90 year old vaccinated?

Was it reported if she had been vaccinated or not?
Don’t want to assume… but how many of those that got the bug… have been vaccinated? I’m certain there are some of those that were, surely?
After all, the vax isn’t supposed to stop one from getting it, nor stop the transmission of it…. but supposed to lessen the severity of it?
Hence why some are not hospitalised and some are?

When will we know for sure?
These state leaders … they talk of us mere peons needing to be truthful  ::)
Takes 2 to tango.

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 1:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 11:51am: Dirty Dan is telling Victorians in NSW to come home now - they will bring it here. "I'm anticipating the numbers in New South Wales will be greater than 100 tomorrow And, if that doesn't happen you may be getting it 'indirectly', Bobby. Launceston to Melbourne flight announced as an exposure site https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-victoria-updates-launceston-to-melbourne-flight-listed-as-an-exposure-site/1401e682-a287-41dc-8146-98e725f68d15 Quote: Victoria's Department of Health has contacted passengers on a recent Launceston to Melbourne flight that included a passenger who has since tested positive for COVID-19 in London. The passenger landed at Melbourne Airport on July 2, transferred to the International Terminal, and then flew to London via Singapore. Due to the brief time the case spent at Melbourne Airport and the lack of current evidence that the case contracted the illness in Tasmania, the Melbourne domestic and international terminals are not considered exposure sites. Still beats me why so many people are travelling all over Australia and around the world while we're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic? Someone was also asking on Twitter the other day what was going on with all these flights arriving in Melbourne (apparently mostly from China and the US) which the writer claims were not on the 'official' list of flights and the passengers getting off them were not going to hotel quarantine but were being driven off to places unknown. No wonder we keep getting more and more Covid outbreaks.

Da heck?!! What’s with these flights? I thought we were locked in from all around our shores?
Does this mean…. I can just go to London or USA for that matter?
Did this international traveller from Tasmania… have any vax before embarking on a journey?
Therefore, why can’t the rest of Covid vaccinated Oz citizens travel at will ?
Enquiring minds want to know.

Karnal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 2:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 1:46pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 1:20pm: Still beats me why so many people are travelling all over Australia and around the world while we're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic? People are still lining up for Daniel's Doughnuts during a pandemic. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jak9wBBcF68D/ So unfair. How can these people wear masks while he's out of work? They should hang their heads in shame, no? Monkeys.

Morons.

Sophia wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 2:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 11:53am: Why wasn't the 90 year old vaccinated? Was it reported if she had been vaccinated or not? Don’t want to assume… but how many of those that got the bug… have been vaccinated? I’m certain there are some of those that were, surely? After all, the vax isn’t supposed to stop one from getting it, nor stop the transmission of it…. but supposed to lessen the severity of it? Hence why some are not hospitalised and some are? When will we know for sure? These state leaders … they talk of us mere peons needing to be truthful  ::) Takes 2 to tango.

Chief health officer Kerry Chant said she believed the woman had not been vaccinated

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-11/nsw-records-77-new-covid19-case/100284316

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 12:42pm:

So, 77 people yesterday tested positive for a virus, out of 40,000+ tests. And if they cannot track where those people went in the last week, that would be unusual.

NSW Police is just lazy. They can check the mobile GPS history and very easy to help the patient to recall where has he/she been.

Sophia wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 2:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 11:53am: Why wasn't the 90 year old vaccinated? Was it reported if she had been vaccinated or not? Don’t want to assume… but how many of those that got the bug… have been vaccinated? I’m certain there are some of those that were, surely? After all, the vax isn’t supposed to stop one from getting it, nor stop the transmission of it…. but supposed to lessen the severity of it? Hence why some are not hospitalised and some are? When will we know for sure?

What you've said is correct - the vax is meant to prevent hospitalisation and death, it doesn't guarantee that you won't catch the virus and/or spread it.

Whether or not the woman who died was vaccinated, we don't actually know.

They used weasel words: "Chief health officer Kerry Chant said she believed the woman had not been vaccinated."

Lots of people believe in aliens, and that Trump won the 2020 election, and that stepping on cracks in the footpath will break your mamma's back - it doesn't make those things true though.

And, if she was vaccinated I doubt very much that they would ever let us know.

Saying "I believe" is a cop out, and should immediately ring alarm bells in your head.

Great soap opera!

NSW was free of Covid and businesses were recovering

Politicians let more Covid in via international flight crews

Politicians get upset because people are not doing the right thing

Politicians fine people and impose lock-downs

Politicians become divided - some want businesses to continue, some don't

Vic Premier wants Victorians in NSW to come home and spread Covid down there


You couldn't write a better script

Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant said she understood that the woman had not been vaccinated against COVID-19

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-90-year-old-woman-dies-of-covid19-first-death-from-bondi-outbreak/9a7e4c5a-55c2-4c5b-a090-59926e7098f5

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant said she understood that the woman had not been vaccinated against COVID-19 https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-90-year-old-woman-dies-of-covid19-first-death-from-bondi-outbreak/9a7e4c5a-55c2-4c5b-a090-59926e7098f5

Yep - another weasel word.

"believed", "understood" - weasel words used to cover herself in the event that it turns out the woman was vaccinated.

Has she come out and said "I can categorically state as a fact that the woman was not vaccinated"?

I'm curious.

What's next - "To the best of my knowledge"?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:16pm:

Great soap opera! NSW was free of Covid and businesses were recovering Politicians let more Covid in via international flight crews Politicians get upset because people are not doing the right thing Politicians fine people and impose lock-downs Politicians become divided - some want businesses to continue, some don't Vic Premier wants Victorians in NSW to come home and spread Covid down there You couldn't write a better script

Dirty Dan is waiting here in Melbourne for the
killer Delta Indian variant so he can lock
us down for another 112 days.

Unvaccinated.

But when you look at how much the vaccines reduce your risk of developing severe illness that requires hospitalisation, the coverage is high for both. Pfizer and Astrazeneca vaccines are 96% and 92% effective (respectively) in preventing Delta variant hospitalisations.

https://theconversation.com/yes-you-can-still-get-covid-after-being-vaccinated-but-youre-unlikely-to-get-as-sick-163870

Sophia wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 2:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 11:53am: Why wasn't the 90 year old vaccinated? Was it reported if she had been vaccinated or not?

As a fact?  No.

Just weasel words so far: "I believe ...", "It's understood ..."

Has anyone come out and said "I can categorically state as a fact that the woman was not vaccinated"?

Nope.

Have to ask yourself why.

The majority of Australians are now regretting they didn't heed what Pauline Hanson was warning ... and remorseful that she was jailed

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

The majority of Australians are now regretting they didn't heed what Pauline Hanson was warning ... and remorseful that she was jailed

Really?

You have a link to support that ridiculous claim?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 2:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 2:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 1:46pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 1:20pm: Still beats me why so many people are travelling all over Australia and around the world while we're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic? People are still lining up for Daniel's Doughnuts during a pandemic. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jak9wBBcF68D/ So unfair. How can these people wear masks while he's out of work? They should hang their heads in shame, no? Monkeys. Morons.

Tinted.

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 12:42pm: So, 77 people yesterday tested positive for a virus, out of 40,000+ tests. And if they cannot track where those people went in the last week, that would be unusual. NSW Police is just lazy. They can check the mobile GPS history and very easy to help the patient to recall where has he/she been.

I have the covid app installed (that gives me the impression) to allow authorities to track my movements and with whom I come into contact. That is assuming that they (other contacts) also have a phone with the covid app. I also do the check-ins with the QR codes.

If the police want to check on my movements around town, they will have to rely on me taking my phone everywhere, which is not the case all the time. I go for a walk most nights without my phone. It would take the police finding security camera footage (and me to confirm myself in the footage) so that they can track my movements.

Other than that, I doubt an infected person would be too social in this day and age to be going to many places inside the week. I could say that my movements would include shopping centres, cinema, and work as places I frequent. The police/covid investigators can track my eftpos purchases for further information about where I have been. But, they would have to have me volunteer that I have been to the bottle shops, seeing that I only purchase alcohol with cash -- I don't want a record on my bank statements.

Very small chance she was vaccinated.

But when you look at how much the vaccines reduce your risk of developing severe illness that requires hospitalisation, the coverage is high for both. Pfizer and Astrazeneca vaccines are 96% and 92% effective (respectively) in preventing Delta variant hospitalisations.

https://theconversation.com/yes-you-can-still-get-covid-after-being-vaccinated-but-youre-unlikely-to-get-as-sick-163870

Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated?
Why didn't they keep her isolated?

So it's now a full blow panic over the death of an unvaccinated 90 year ?

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:52pm:

Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated?

We don't know if she was vaccinated or not.

Looks like we have an antivaxer.

The vaccination reduces the risk of serious illness and hospitalisation by 94-96%.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 3:52pm: Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated? We don't know if she was vaccinated or not.

Moreover, we don't know if she had any family who kept in contact with her either.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

The majority of Australians are now regretting they didn't heed what Pauline Hanson was warning ... and remorseful that she was jailed

Projecting again.

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:52pm:

Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated? Why didn't they keep her isolated? So it's now a full blow panic over the death of an unvaccinated 90 year ?

Maybe her family are forum members here?  That could explain it.

2 people died falling off ladders this week.

why arent they mentioned by the politicians and chief health officers?

let me correct the record for gladys.

our heart felt sympathies going out to the victim of this tragic ladder accident.

our police force and indeed the military will be patrolling streets to ensure ladders are used correctly.

we have emptied out our hospitals and suspended elective surgery in case a ladder injury patient should require help.

all people using ladders will require the ladder proficieny app and anyone who is afraid to use a ladder will qualify for a ladder saver payment

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 3:52pm:

Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated? Why didn't they keep her isolated? So it's now a full blow panic over the death of an unvaccinated 90 year ?

To allay that "panic" all they have to do is come out and tell the public that she definitely was not vaccinated.

"We immediately did an in-depth investigation of the woman's medical history and we have established as an absolute fact that the woman was offered the vaccination but decided to refuse it. Australians can therefore rest assured that nobody in this country who has received the vaccination has died as a result of COVID-19".

With the amount of vaccination hesitancy in the country at the moment, this would be the sensible thing to do.

Instead, they come out with "I believe ...", and "It's understood ...".

Maybe they're just buying time until they do have the facts.

It's not a good look though.

So, what do the vaccines actually do? Builds up your immunity that when you catch the virus, you do not get tested because your symptoms are not as strong as what you would have had if you were not vaccinated. Then you do not get tested anyway because you have been vaccinated and it would seem redundant to get tested. So, the virus gets into your system and you pass the virus on to people that are not vaccinated. That complacency spikes up case numbers.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 3:52pm: Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated? Why didn't they keep her isolated? So it's now a full blow panic over the death of an unvaccinated 90 year ? Maybe her family are forum members here?  That could explain it.

You perhaps? I've had one vaccination so if my parents were unvaccinated (which they're not)  I'd be less likely to spread it.

You just chucked a stone through a panel of your glasshouse.

Go get vaccinated before you start pointing fingers.

She was unvaccinated and had contracted the virus from a household close contact.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-11/elderly-residents-urged-to-bring-forward-second-astrazeneca-shot/100284500

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:38pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 4:09pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 3:52pm: Why didn't the family encourage her to be vaccinated? Why didn't they keep her isolated? So it's now a full blow panic over the death of an unvaccinated 90 year ? Maybe her family are forum members here?  That could explain it. You perhaps? I've had one vaccination so if my parents were unvaccinated (which they're not)  I'd be less likely to spread it. You just chucked a stone through a panel of your glasshouse. Go get vaccinated before you start pointing fingers.

I find it hysterical that people like Three-Finger-Haji here are urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that they said was "fake news" just over 12 months ago.

Gordon and his uneducated conservative friends were agreeing with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up.

What caused this sudden change of heart?

I'm curious.


*(I'm booked in for my first jab next week)

LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet.

The drink driver lost the argument and now he's thinking about child rape. That must be something that gives him solace.

The unvaccinated drink driver will be thinking about child rape all night.

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet.

I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one.

Next Wednesday, however, I get my first jab.

However, I find it hysterical that people like you are now urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that you claimed was "fake news" just over 12 months ago.

You agreed with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up.

What caused your sudden change of heart?

I'm curious.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:12pm:

2 people died falling off ladders this week. why arent they mentioned by the politicians and chief health officers? let me correct the record for gladys. our heart felt sympathies going out to the victim of this tragic ladder accident. our police force and indeed the military will be patrolling streets to ensure ladders are used correctly. we have emptied out our hospitals and suspended elective surgery in case a ladder injury patient should require help. all people using ladders will require the ladder proficieny app and anyone who is afraid to use a ladder will qualify for a ladder saver payment

Sorry for anyone who falls off a ladder.

Can you book me in for the Ladder Fall Vax please ??  OH you can't - then what your blubbering about ?

Forum lefties who are unvaccinated.

The drink driver
The kid pinner
The depressed marsupial

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 7:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 4:12pm: 2 people died falling off ladders this week. why arent they mentioned by the politicians and chief health officers? let me correct the record for gladys. our heart felt sympathies going out to the victim of this tragic ladder accident. our police force and indeed the military will be patrolling streets to ensure ladders are used correctly. we have emptied out our hospitals and suspended elective surgery in case a ladder injury patient should require help. all people using ladders will require the ladder proficieny app and anyone who is afraid to use a ladder will qualify for a ladder saver payment Sorry for anyone who falls off a ladder. Can you book me in for the Ladder Fall Vax please ??  OH you can't - then what your blubbering about ?

I worked with this poor guy a couple of times.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/aussie-tv-icon-john-clabburn-dies-after-hedge-trimming-incident/news-story/328b6c0ac6a2aebad8d151bf5151dac5

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one. Next Wednesday, however, I get my first jab. However, I find it hysterical that people like you are now urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that you claimed was "fake news" just over 12 months ago. You agreed with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up. What caused your sudden change of heart? I'm curious.

Gordon said it was a hoax.

Sided with the alleged child rapist.

Why the sudden change of mind?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:12pm:

2 people died falling off ladders this week. why arent they mentioned by the politicians and chief health officers? let me correct the record for gladys. our heart felt sympathies going out to the victim of this tragic ladder accident. our police force and indeed the military will be patrolling streets to ensure ladders are used correctly. we have emptied out our hospitals and suspended elective surgery in case a ladder injury patient should require help. all people using ladders will require the ladder proficieny app and anyone who is afraid to use a ladder will qualify for a ladder saver payment

91 people died of covid in Thailand yesterday. 2, 1/2 months ago, they were covid-free. 9326 new cases yesterday.

Nobody died falling off ladders. You just made that up. Will you be sending your second vaccine to the noble Thais?

What a comedy!


"Vaccinated people can still spread the virus"

"It will be 3 months before the vaccine is available in Rural NSW"

"When you get vaccinated, you can still only do your grocery shopping "


It's a laugh a minute

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:03pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one. Next Wednesday, however, I get my first jab. However, I find it hysterical that people like you are now urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that you claimed was "fake news" just over 12 months ago. You agreed with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up. What caused your sudden change of heart? I'm curious. Gordon said it was a hoax. Sided with the alleged child rapist. Why the sudden change of mind?

Gordon's no Trump-supporter, Greggery, oh no.

Aquascoot might have mentioned Trump once, but he thinks he got away with it.

You?

I just proved the drink driver wrong showing the dead 90 year old was unvaccinated.

Now the drink driver is saying I thought Roona was a hoax.
I actually made the very first post about Corona on this board :)

Jan 23rd, 2020 at 5:42pm
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579765352

I do my supermarket grocery shopping by "Click & Collect". At the allotted time, just toss it in the boot and drive off

Karnal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:03pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one. Next Wednesday, however, I get my first jab. However, I find it hysterical that people like you are now urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that you claimed was "fake news" just over 12 months ago. You agreed with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up. What caused your sudden change of heart? I'm curious. Gordon said it was a hoax. Sided with the alleged child rapist. Why the sudden change of mind? Gordon's no Trump-supporter, Greggery, oh no. Aquascoot might have mentioned Trump once, but he thinks he got away with it. You?

Gordon and aquascoot are so far up the alleged child rapist's arse, that they can taste Rudy's cum on his tongue.

Miam miam.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 8:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:53pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:03pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one. Next Wednesday, however, I get my first jab. However, I find it hysterical that people like you are now urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that you claimed was "fake news" just over 12 months ago. You agreed with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up. What caused your sudden change of heart? I'm curious. Gordon said it was a hoax. Sided with the alleged child rapist. Why the sudden change of mind? Gordon's no Trump-supporter, Greggery, oh no. Aquascoot might have mentioned Trump once, but he thinks he got away with it. You? Gordon and aquascoot are so far up the alleged child rapist's arse, that they can taste Rudy's cum on his tongue. Miam miam.

Greggy has turned this place into a sewer.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one.

Lol, bullsh1t.

rhino wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:03pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one. Lol, bullsh1t.

High blood alcohol level, particularly when driving.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 8:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:53pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 7:03pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2021 at 6:55pm: LoL the drink driver isn't even vaccinated yet. I have a dangerous (unusual) blood disorder, so I've been consulting with medical specialists to make sure I get the right one. Next Wednesday, however, I get my first jab. However, I find it hysterical that people like you are now urging people to get vaccinated for a virus that you claimed was "fake news" just over 12 months ago. You agreed with the American alleged child rapist who said that it was just a few cases and that it would disappear when the weather warmed up. What caused your sudden change of heart? I'm curious. Gordon said it was a hoax. Sided with the alleged child rapist. Why the sudden change of mind? Gordon's no Trump-supporter, Greggery, oh no. Aquascoot might have mentioned Trump once, but he thinks he got away with it. You? Gordon and aquascoot are so far up the alleged child rapist's arse, that they can taste Rudy's cum on his tongue. Miam miam. Greggy has turned this place into a sewer.

Moi?

Speak to Gordon & aquascoot, Booby - they're the ones who who said the virus was a hoax.

Remember?