give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated .

you are making us a global laughing stock

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Delta in QLD

They can hold off until next week to announce delta variants in Qld. I want my holiday.

Monday marked the end of laws mandating the wearing of masks and the enforcement of social distancing in England, with the last remaining closed businesses, such as nightclubs, reopening.

Across the country young people, including many 18 and 19-year-olds who had never been out in nightclub, celebrated as the clock struck midnight in reopening parties.


england managed this whilst having 82,000 new cases yesterday ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.


what must they think of us  ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/7e/50/d27e50984fff85bb873a0d5262fef2ab.png

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock

Been vaccinated have you, dear?

Dirty Dan thinks he can stop the tide coming in:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/dannnnn_003.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 7:41pm:

Dirty Dan thinks he can stop the tide coming in: https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/dannnnn_003.jpg

Is that Tony Abbott on manly Beach ?

That is about where the first set of steps down to the beach are now ?

Dnarever wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 9:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:41pm: Dirty Dan thinks he can stop the tide coming in: https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/dannnnn_003.jpg Is that Tony Abbott on manly Beach ? That is about where the first set of steps down to the beach are now ?

No, dear. Aquascoot's Superior Man is holding off the virus in a big, red cape.

Mr Abbott, noble lifesaver, got about in a pair of revealling red briefs.

11,784 new cases in Thailand today. 90 deaths. A couple of months ago?

World's best practice. What's the bet Thailand has a revolution in the next two years?

I blame Delta. You?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock

It's trying to be controlled while we wait for vaccines.

Would you prefer people die?

How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan?

Were the 600,000+ who died in the US while waiting for vaccines when Trump refused mitigation efforts and even publicly fought wearing masks until the bitter end, was that an acceptable number of deaths?

What about for us?

How many people do you want to die so you can pretend to be strong and avoid having panic attack on your toilet because you have to stay at home with the family and can't share the company of the many you wish to be intimate with?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:10am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:12pm: give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock It's trying to be controlled while we wait for vaccines. Would you prefer people die? How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan?

The politicians are only delaying the inevitable
number of people who will die from Covid.
The virus that finally comes through may be even 10 times
more deadly than the first alpha version of Covid-19
which will mean 10 times the number of people who will die.
This is not going to end in one or 2 months -
not even in 1 or 2 years -
I now expect lockdowns and more insanity for at least 10 years.
Dopey, King Canute bastards like dirty Dan are driving it.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:17am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:12pm: give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock It's trying to be controlled while we wait for vaccines. Would you prefer people die? How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? The politicians are only delaying the inevitable number of people who will die from Covid.

Exactly.  If it can be delayed, vaccines will be able to offer some protection, saving lives.

It also means less transmission and therefore a lower change of the virus evolving within the community and in turn less variants that may undermine the success of the vaccines.

This means a better control on the virus and the closer to normal we can live our lives.

But you seem to not want that..?

You seem to finally have some purpose in "Bobby the scared Labor hating COVID doomsayer" persona you've adopted.


Quote:

The virus that finally comes through may be even 10 times more deadly than the first alpha version of Covid-19 which will mean 10 times the number of people who will die. This is not going to end in one or 2 months - not even in 1 or 2 years - I now expect lockdowns and more insanity for at least 10 years. Dopey, King Canute bastards like dirty Dan are driving it.

Besides your decision to blame Dan for everything, another part of the persona you've decided to adopt, you've actually posted the reasons why the current approach is the right one for our leaders to take, especially if you're worried about variants etc.

But you just want to whinge.

I get it, it's been tough on everyone, but you're talking the tolling to an extreme.

If life is too hard and we're all doomed, why bother?

Karnal wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:12pm: give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock Been vaccinated have you, dear?

Course he has... Likes to tell us he did it 'for the people'... The same people whose country he invited a dictator to invade.

Not hard to guess he's the local misfit whose local area want gone... Usually the way with collaborators of regimes hostile to their own people and country.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:10am:

How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan?

I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000.

And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o

Unbelievable. Even for scoot.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:12pm: give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock It's trying to be controlled while we wait for vaccines. Would you prefer people die? How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? The politicians are only delaying the inevitable number of people who will die from Covid. Exactly.  If it can be delayed, vaccines will be able to offer some protection, saving lives. It also means less transmission and therefore a lower change of the virus evolving within the community and in turn less variants that may undermine the success of the vaccines. This means a better control on the virus and the closer to normal we can live our lives. But you seem to not want that..? You seem to finally have some purpose in "Bobby the scared Labor hating COVID doomsayer" persona you've adopted. Quote: The virus that finally comes through may be even 10 times more deadly than the first alpha version of Covid-19 which will mean 10 times the number of people who will die. This is not going to end in one or 2 months - not even in 1 or 2 years - I now expect lockdowns and more insanity for at least 10 years. Dopey, King Canute bastards like dirty Dan are driving it. Besides your decision to blame Dan for everything, another part of the persona you've decided to adopt, you've actually posted the reasons why the current approach is the right one for our leaders to take, especially if you're worried about variants etc. But you just want to whinge. I get it, it's been tough on everyone, but you're talking the tolling to an extreme. If life is too hard and we're all doomed, why bother?

Mr Sad,
you've been brainwashed by Dan and Gladys.
You can't think for yourself.
Go to a beach and tell the tide to stop.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:26am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:26pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:12pm: give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock Been vaccinated have you, dear? Course he has... Likes to tell us he did it 'for the people'... The same people whose country he invited a dictator to invade. Not hard to guess he's the local misfit whose local area want gone... Usually the way with collaborators of regimes hostile to their own people and country.

His family is likely sick of his incessant complaints about women and obsession with strong young boys which is likely why he hates the idea of lockdowns since he has to be at home with them and the women telling him what to do.

It's why he thinks everyone hides on their toilet and gets anxious like he does and therefore lockdowns are bad.

None of us wants the lockdowns, but we do what we have to for the communities we live in.

Some people just like to have a sook like a teenage girl.

It's just funny that those sooks so often obsess over being alphas and how bad women are for "pussifying" young boys when all they're doing is crying online.

And that's ignoring all the times they cry about wokeness yet are on the front lines of their own culture wars.

The level of self hate within these people must make life miserable.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:23am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 7:12pm: give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock It's trying to be controlled while we wait for vaccines. Would you prefer people die? How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? The politicians are only delaying the inevitable number of people who will die from Covid. Exactly.  If it can be delayed, vaccines will be able to offer some protection, saving lives. It also means less transmission and therefore a lower change of the virus evolving within the community and in turn less variants that may undermine the success of the vaccines. This means a better control on the virus and the closer to normal we can live our lives. But you seem to not want that..? You seem to finally have some purpose in "Bobby the scared Labor hating COVID doomsayer" persona you've adopted. Quote: The virus that finally comes through may be even 10 times more deadly than the first alpha version of Covid-19 which will mean 10 times the number of people who will die. This is not going to end in one or 2 months - not even in 1 or 2 years - I now expect lockdowns and more insanity for at least 10 years. Dopey, King Canute bastards like dirty Dan are driving it. Besides your decision to blame Dan for everything, another part of the persona you've decided to adopt, you've actually posted the reasons why the current approach is the right one for our leaders to take, especially if you're worried about variants etc. But you just want to whinge. I get it, it's been tough on everyone, but you're talking the tolling to an extreme. If life is too hard and we're all doomed, why bother? Mr Sad, you've been brainwashed by Dan and Gladys. You can't think for yourself. Go to a beach and tell the tide to stop.

Sure thing boomer, you've got all the answers.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:36am:

None of us wants the lockdowns, but we do what we have to for the communities we live in.

Exactly. We'd call it respect for our community and neighbours.

I doubt he's respected anyone in his life, except phantom respect for 'heroes' he's never met... Just listened to on podcasts.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

give it up premiers.  admit it cant be erradicated . you are making us a global laughing stock

Here's another one for you, aqua (and Bobby):

https://twitter.com/JedKnight_/status/1417654146371448835

Just trying to lighten things up a little.  :)

Haters gonna hate ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 11:44am:

Haters gonna hate ;)

We hate our freedom of travel being restricted.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 11:44am:

Haters gonna hate ;)

I say, these filthy, unvaccinated ne'er-do-wells. Vermin, the lot. How very dare they?

The Superior Man makes a sacrifice for his fellow species. He is injected with chimpanzee virus to become more than human - not so much a man as a god.

Oh, some prefer to throw their vaccine into the Indus River in the hope it will wash up in Nepal and vaccinate a noble Gurkha, who feeds his kids a bowl of dirt a day.

But not us, no? The noble Donald kept his jab under wraps. He didn't want to offend his anti-vax constituency, you see. No one has the right to not be offended, no?

No, the Superior Man says yes. Yes to covid, yes to the vaccine, yes to the noble Donald and Putin and Xi. Moderna, Sputnik and Sinovax, the strong may inherit the sky.

But the meek shall inherit the earth, no?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 12:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 11:44am: Haters gonna hate ;) We hate our freedom of travel being restricted.

Oh, some maybe. For others, closing the borders is a life-long dream.

MAGA, Brexit, national "sovereignty". We don't want them here. Back to where you came from. Ban them, kill them, fuck off, we're full.

And now they're complaining?

Come come. We decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they came.

Now they can't get out. Too bad so sad, no?

To an extent, I am glad that we are halting the immigration to Australia whilst we sort out this virus. But, I do not agree with restrictions for healthy Australian people to travel around the country.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 12:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 11:44am: Haters gonna hate ;) We hate our freedom of travel being restricted.

Correct.

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 12:32pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:12pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 11:44am: Haters gonna hate ;) We hate our freedom of travel being restricted. Oh, some maybe. For others, closing the borders is a life-long dream. MAGA, Brexit, national "sovereignty". We don't want them here. Back to where you came from. Ban them, kill them, fuck off, we're full. And now they're complaining? Come come. We decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they came. Now they can't get out. Too bad so sad, no?

Yeah, all the borders are closed - except the US- Mexican, the EU- African, the EU - Arab, UK - France borders. Those are all wide open AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT HAVE A PASSPORT AND VISA.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1417506452416208907

Oh damn. We don't get Delta in Qld until the 27th of October.

That's what happens when the 'premier' jumps ship...

Well - with rushed through vaccines and constant mutations in this monster, the chances are that this thing is not going to go away, so the only real plan is to plug on until either vaccinations start to make a difference, or the disease gets out of control totally.

Seven Plagues...Drought, Fire , Flood, Disease ... only three more to go .. maybe we need to paint lamb's blood on the tops and sides of our doors so the Angel of The Lord will pass us by...

I'm still considering the theory of infalling pathogens..... interesting.... google doesn't want to give out the information on comet transits.. I think that Wakramasinghe and Hoyle said 'two years' after the passing of a comet was about right for an influx of pathogens into the atmosphere, where the more disturbed atmospherics bring it down fast to ground level, and of course, colder Winter air drops....

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 12:51pm:

Oh damn. We don't get Delta in Qld until the 27th of October.

2nd October

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 1:07pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:51pm: Oh damn. We don't get Delta in Qld until the 27th of October. 2nd October

Uhuh. It said the 27th on the other poster.

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 12:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:32pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:12pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 11:44am: Haters gonna hate ;) We hate our freedom of travel being restricted. Oh, some maybe. For others, closing the borders is a life-long dream. MAGA, Brexit, national "sovereignty". We don't want them here. Back to where you came from. Ban them, kill them, fuck off, we're full. And now they're complaining? Come come. We decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they came. Now they can't get out. Too bad so sad, no? Yeah, all the borders are closed - except the US- Mexican, the EU- African, the EU - Arab, UK - France borders. Those are all wide open AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT HAVE A PASSPORT AND VISA. https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1417506452416208907

Biden's been knocking back Mexicans since Trump was in charge, dear boy.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/10/us-to-turn-back-vast-majority-migrants-mexico-border

Cunning, no?

You, of course, must be mistaken. You wouldnt be joining Farange by telling porkies in your campaign against the tinted races, now would you?

Oh no, that would be most mendacious (slippery, evasive agit-prop, etc). As we all know, you refuse to say whether you:

A. Uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against the tinted races, or

B. You're a naughty old racist.

You disagree with the premise of the question, no?

How diabolically spineless of you, old boy. How shamelessly you.

You wanted the borders closed, you wanted trade stopped, you wanted a global state of paranoid, insular paralysis. You?

Yes, dear, you. Now offer us a banana before you go back to bed. 

Carl D wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:34am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000. And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o Unbelievable. Even for scoot.

Doctor aquascoot at your service.  ::)

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Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 3:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:50pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:32pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 12:12pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 11:44am: Haters gonna hate ;) We hate our freedom of travel being restricted. Oh, some maybe. For others, closing the borders is a life-long dream. MAGA, Brexit, national "sovereignty". We don't want them here. Back to where you came from. Ban them, kill them, fuck off, we're full. And now they're complaining? Come come. We decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they came. Now they can't get out. Too bad so sad, no? Yeah, all the borders are closed - except the US- Mexican, the EU- African, the EU - Arab, UK - France borders. Those are all wide open AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT HAVE A PASSPORT AND VISA. https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1417506452416208907 Biden's been knocking back Mexicans since Trump was in charge, dear boy. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/10/us-to-turn-back-vast-majority-migrants-mexico-border Cunning, no? You, of course, must be mistaken. You wouldnt be joining Farange by telling porkies in your campaign against the tinted races, now would you? Oh no, that would be most mendacious (slippery, evasive agit-prop, etc). As we all know, you refuse to say whether you: A. Uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against the tinted races, or B. You're a naughty old racist. You disagree with the premise of the question, no? How diabolically spineless of you, old boy. How shamelessly you. You wanted the borders closed, you wanted trade stopped, you wanted a global state of paranoid, insular paralysis. You? Yes, dear, you. Now offer us a banana before you go back to bed.

Crap.

Lowering the bar
Deportations of undocumented immigrants are at a record low
Joe Biden does not want to be America’s next “deporter-in-chief”
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/06/12/deportations-of-undocumented-immigrants-are-at-a-record-low

UK
the UK is adding another million people to its population about every three years. The vast majority of these visitors for life are non-European. Depending on your politics, that may or may not seem disquieting. But given that EU migration has been so underestimated that the numbers might as well have been made up, what is Britain’s real annual level of migration from the rest of the world? Even the stats we’re provided on the number of boat people fleeing the terrible tyranny of France for the glorious liberty of lockdown Britain are only the seafarers whom the Border Force has apprehended. No one counts the folks who land their dinghies, swipe a towel from a washing line and slip off into the countryside unnoticed. When the people-smugglers aren’t caught, no one counts the customers who are stuffed into lorries in Belgium, dissolve into family networks and pick up work under the table.

Carl D wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 4:06pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:34am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000. And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o Unbelievable. Even for scoot. Doctor aquascoot at your service.  ::)

Doctor? I'll have some hay and a carrot, thanks.

I'd like to improve the quality of my manure.

Quote:

UK the UK is adding another million people to its population about every three years.

You do have a source for this, ja?

Wouldn't it be a jolly chuckle if Mother stopped free labour exchange with Europe, only to be forced to make up the deficit with Tree Monkeys, Throbbing Jigaboos, Curry-Shitters, Paki Bastards and a seething morass of the usual tinted suspects?

Oh, ja. Lucky you flew here instead, eh?

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 7:59pm:

Quote: UK the UK is adding another million people to its population about every three years. You do have a source for this, ja? Wouldn't it be a jolly chuckle if Mother stopped free labour exchange with Europe, only to be forced to make up the deficit with Tree Monkeys, Throbbing Jigaboos, Curry-Shitters, Paki Bastards and a seething morass of the usual tinted suspects? Oh, ja. Lucky you flew here instead, eh?

Lionel Shriver.
https://images.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltf04078f3cf7a9c30/blt26ed250936a3fa06/5e3b027428bcbb6ab5fa348e/Lionel_S.png
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-uks-immigration-figures-are-a-fantasy#

Diss her, she's an American writer living in Britain.  A white woman AND an American  - how awful is that???

She bollocks the US immigration numbers as well.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/immigration-is-joe-bidens-achilles-heel


Don't read it, you wont know WHAT to say other than the usual Vicky Pollard response you have.

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 7:44pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 4:06pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:34am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000. And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o Unbelievable. Even for scoot. Doctor aquascoot at your service.  ::) Doctor? I'll have some hay and a carrot, thanks. I'd like to improve the quality of my manure.

will the lies never end.

i didnt say 'acceptable"

i said "thats what will happen"

we wont get above 70 % vaccinated.

if you dont get vaccinated you WILL get delta.

it has a 1 %  case fatality rate.

and 1 % of 7 million is 70,000.

now, you can stay in lcokdown forever and prevent that or you can accept the reality of aquascoots very sensible projections and accept reality LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES ::) ::) ::) ::)

Bertie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 7:59pm: Quote: UK the UK is adding another million people to its population about every three years. You do have a source for this, ja? Wouldn't it be a jolly chuckle if Mother stopped free labour exchange with Europe, only to be forced to make up the deficit with Tree Monkeys, Throbbing Jigaboos, Curry-Shitters, Paki Bastards and a seething morass of the usual tinted suspects? Oh, ja. Lucky you flew here instead, eh? Lionel Shriver. https://images.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltf04078f3cf7a9c30/blt26ed250936a3fa06/5e3b027428bcbb6ab5fa348e/Lionel_S.png https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-uks-immigration-figures-are-a-fantasy# Diss her, she's an American writer living in Britain.  A white woman AND an American  - how awful is that???

Despicable. What's worse is you think we subscribe to the Spectator and can read your article.

Awful.

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 11:21pm:

Despicable. What's worse is you think we subscribe to the Spectator and can read your article. Awful.

Here you go, Karnal. I've used a little 'trick' involving NoScript in Firefox to make the article visible without a subscription:

Lionel Shriver
The UK’s immigration figures are a fantasy
From magazine issue: 3 July 2021

Journalists filing to deadline are apt to dig only so deep when googling for statistics, which in themselves are sometimes derided as worse than damned lies. Thus we’re often suckers for ‘known facts’. Besides, if the UK’s Office for National Statistics doesn’t produce reliable data, where’s a poor scribbler to turn? Nevertheless, the current uptake of Britain’s offer of settlement status to resident EU citizens exposes even this upright organisation’s immigration statistics as, well, worse than damned lies.

Far more generous than the begrudging bureaucratic bramble of reciprocal packages on offer to Brits resident on the Continent post-Brexit, the UK’s settlement scheme for resident EU citizens had, by the end of May, received more than 5.6 million applications. The programme then had one month to go, so last-minute stragglers will likely push that number closer to six million, or fully 9 per cent of Britain’s population. What’s disconcerting? As of March last year, the ONS estimated the population of EU citizens living in the UK at 3.7 million.

It gets worse. That 3.7 million figure does not take account of the many EU residents who have fled the UK’s inhospitable shores during the pandemic. That 5.6 million figure does not include however many EU citizens living in Britain who — out of laziness, disinclination, uncertainty about their plans or ignorance of the process — are not applying for settlement.

Breakdowns of citizenships by country demonstrate the same pattern: twice as many Romanians and Bulgarians (1.2 million) have already had their settlement applications approved as the ONS thought resided in the country altogether. All in all, it’s likely that at least twice as many EU citizens have been living in Britain as the bean-counters imagined.

For reasons of shared history, religion (or lack of it) and levels of English fluency, the capacity of EU immigrants to gracefully assimilate into British culture is probably second only to that of immigrants from the Anglosphere (e.g. me, as it happens). Thus especially concerning is the doubt — if not outright disbelief — that the stunning inaccuracy of EU immigration estimates invites in relation to non-EU immigration. After all, covered by free movement laws until the end of the Brexit transition year and still enjoying a grace period, EU citizens in Britain have had no reason to hide in the bushes. Their presence is perfectly legal. By contrast, ‘irregular’ immigrants from elsewhere who’ve not dotted all the i’s for the Home Office are highly motivated to keep their heads down.

For the year ending March 2020, here are the official stats. In addition to only 58,000 more EU citizens who arrived than departed, 316,000 non-EU immigrants rocked up in Blighty, and that’s after subtracting those who left. Rather unusually, too, the UK prefers to quote its immigration figures as ‘net’. Thus the exodus of 61,000 British citizens (84,000 returned, 144,000 emigrated), including many retirees who have dumped the damp for sunnier climes, are subtracted from annual arrivals. The effect is to disguise the country’s degree of ethnic transformation. Effectively, those 61,000 departed Brits have been swapped for foreigners, but you won’t see that in last year’s ‘net inward migration’ of 313,000 that journalists and politicians customarily cite.

(continued)

Even taking these figures at face value, the UK is adding another million people to its population about every three years. The vast majority of these visitors for life are non-European. Depending on your politics, that may or may not seem disquieting. But given that EU migration has been so underestimated that the numbers might as well have been made up, what is Britain’s real annual level of migration from the rest of the world? Even the stats we’re provided on the number of boat people fleeing the terrible tyranny of France for the glorious liberty of lockdown Britain are only the seafarers whom the Border Force has apprehended. No one counts the folks who land their dinghies, swipe a towel from a washing line and slip off into the countryside unnoticed. When the people-smugglers aren’t caught, no one counts the customers who are stuffed into lorries in Belgium, dissolve into family networks and pick up work under the table. Only the intrepid Migration Watch seems to be keeping track of the 90,000 people who annually overstay their UK visas, on top of the 250,000 ‘non-visa nationals’, from countries whose citizens aren’t required to have a visa, who fail to leave the country within the mandatory six months.

My purpose here is not to stir up xenophobic hysteria. After all, I’m a UK immigrant myself. Still, I have had it with the fake precision of numbers like that ‘313,000’ annual migration total. If the EU settlement scheme’s big reveal is any guide, the real number is at least twice that, meaning the population is actually rising by a million every 19 months. These fantasy figures matter for policies on transport, housing, water, energy, sewage and the NHS. In truth, no one knows how many people are living in the United Kingdom. Too many guests of the nation have a keen self-interest in not being counted.

This is purely anecdotal, but in my formerly white, working-class neighbourhood of south London, the proportion of Africans on the streets is high. In the 11 years we’ve lived there, that proportion has palpably risen. One inevitably puzzles over the aegis under which all these people from a different continent took up residence. One inevitably puzzles over whether the government has any idea how many newcomers we don’t recognise have been filtering through the revolving door of the council house next door. Staggeringly, even official figures estimate that closing on 40 per cent of the inhabitants of the nation’s capital were born in another country.

Mind, on the ‘lies, damned lies and immigration statistics’ front, the United States takes the biscuit. The improbably low stats routinely quoted in America are either naive or wilfully deceitful. But my homeland’s utter cluelessness about how many people have poured into the country illegally is so dumbfounding that we’ll reserve my astonishment for a Part II.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21^st, 2021 at 8:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 7:44pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 4:06pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:34am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000. And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o Unbelievable. Even for scoot. Doctor aquascoot at your service.  ::) Doctor? I'll have some hay and a carrot, thanks. I'd like to improve the quality of my manure. will the lies never end. i didnt say 'acceptable" i said "thats what will happen" we wont get above 70 % vaccinated. if you dont get vaccinated you WILL get delta. it has a 1 %  case fatality rate. and 1 % of 7 million is 70,000. now, you can stay in lcokdown forever and prevent that or you can accept the reality of aquascoots very sensible projections and accept reality LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES ::) ::) ::) ::)

Would you like to post evidence of your very sensible 1% figure? We're all ears.

Over to you.

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The effect is to disguise the country’s degree of ethnic transformation. Effectively, those 61,000 departed Brits have been swapped for foreigners, but you won’t see that in last year’s ‘net inward migration’ of 313,000 that journalists and politicians customarily cite.

Ah. Thanks, Carl D.

Poor old Blighty with all that ethnic transformation, eh?

I wonder if they'd like to swap a dirtly old cheese-snorter for a cunning Paki Bastard.

Oh, we're closed. Sorry, Mother. We'll preserve the old boy for you. 

You can have him when we're done, okay?

Time to lock the gates before the Inevitable™ Downfall....

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 12:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:13pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 7:44pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 4:06pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:34am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000. And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o Unbelievable. Even for scoot. Doctor aquascoot at your service.  ::) Doctor? I'll have some hay and a carrot, thanks. I'd like to improve the quality of my manure. will the lies never end. i didnt say 'acceptable" i said "thats what will happen" we wont get above 70 % vaccinated. if you dont get vaccinated you WILL get delta. it has a 1 %  case fatality rate. and 1 % of 7 million is 70,000. now, you can stay in lcokdown forever and prevent that or you can accept the reality of aquascoots very sensible projections and accept reality LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES ::) ::) ::) ::) Would you like to post evidence of your very sensible 1% figure? We're all ears. Over to you.

Coronavirus Cases:
192,577,302
view by country
Deaths:
4,138,248


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

thats about 2 % actually and the numbers in places like indonesia and brazil would be under reported, so maybe 3 %.

now i'll give australia a much better health system so we should be able to do 3 x better.

that brings it back to 1 %.

it might be better then that but IT IS GOING TO BE 10's of 1000's.

we WONT get much better then 70 %. vax

america has maxed out at 50 %.vax
they have vaccines (pfizer) available everywhere and people wont take them.

100 people under 30 in hospital in missouri alone.


THIS IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF WAITING FOR THE MORE DEADLY DELTA

and it is the CONSEQUENCE OF NOT WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE.

600,000 dead and rising rapidly in the USA and britian will probably do as bad.

6,000 dead in sweden and going up by 1 or 2 a day.

the government there treated the population as adults and got co operation.

morons like john smith think a 3 to 6 month lockdown of syndey is feasible.

its not.

and worse then that millions of people will now sabotage your efforts.

you think a young truck driver with the sniffles will queue for 3 hours to get tested.

2 guys WHO ALREADY KNEW THEY HAD IT went about doing their deliveries all over the state  ::) ::) ::)

we should have gone the courageous personal responsibility route which we use for every other health issue.

are you denying that the death rate from covid in 2022 will be way way way higher then in 2021 ????

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 5:26am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 12:27am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:13pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 7:44pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 4:06pm: Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:34am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21st, 2021 at 8:10am: How many deaths are acceptable in your alpha plan? I asked aqua that question yesterday and his answer was approximately 70,000. And, that's just from those who are not vaccinated.  :o Unbelievable. Even for scoot. Doctor aquascoot at your service.  ::) Doctor? I'll have some hay and a carrot, thanks. I'd like to improve the quality of my manure. will the lies never end. i didnt say 'acceptable" i said "thats what will happen" we wont get above 70 % vaccinated. if you dont get vaccinated you WILL get delta. it has a 1 %  case fatality rate. and 1 % of 7 million is 70,000. now, you can stay in lcokdown forever and prevent that or you can accept the reality of aquascoots very sensible projections and accept reality LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES ::) ::) ::) ::) Would you like to post evidence of your very sensible 1% figure? We're all ears. Over to you. Coronavirus Cases: 192,577,302 view by country Deaths: 4,138,248 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ thats about 2 % actually and the numbers in places like indonesia and brazil would be under reported, so maybe 3 %. now i'll give australia a much better health system so we should be able to do 3 x better. that brings it back to 1 %. it might be better then that but IT IS GOING TO BE 10's of 1000's. we WONT get much better then 70 %. vax america has maxed out at 50 %.vax they have vaccines (pfizer) available everywhere and people wont take them. 100 people under 30 in hospital in missouri alone. THIS IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF WAITING FOR THE MORE DEADLY DELTA and it is the CONSEQUENCE OF NOT WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE. 600,000 dead and rising rapidly in the USA and britian will probably do as bad. 6,000 dead in sweden and going up by 1 or 2 a day. the government there treated the population as adults and got co operation. morons like john smith think a 3 to 6 month lockdown of syndey is feasible. its not. and worse then that millions of people will now sabotage your efforts. you think a young truck driver with the sniffles will queue for 3 hours to get tested. 2 guys WHO ALREADY KNEW THEY HAD IT went about doing their deliveries all over the state  ::) ::) ::) we should have gone the courageous personal responsibility route which we use for every other health issue. are you denying that the death rate from covid in 2022 will be way way way higher then in 2021 ????

Ah. So it's 3%, is it?

Cunning. 70% of UK residents have had at least one vaccination, but in the over 50s, the figure is 90%.

Covid is a fatality risk to these people. If we can fully vaccinate the over-50s, at-risk health groups, people with disabilities and Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islanders, we're almost there.

The 3% fatality figure is misleading applied to total populations because covid rarely kills the young. The risk is closer to 50% to people over 70, and lowers incrementally.

Covid, as you put it, kills the elderly, the sick, the disabled. You know, those you call chodes.

There is still a risk that it kills others too. This is the 0.8 figure obtained from the UK, where most people are vaccinated.

There, the Delta strain has killed younger, unvaccinated people, along with elderly people the vaccinations didnt help. There is, after all, a 10% chance they won't work, but this is largely in the elderly, frail group you call chodes.

For them, the risk is 10% after vaccination. For the vaccinated Superior Man, the risk is far lower.

You might have seen the death rate of Delta in unvaccinated populations in India and Indonesia. Both of those countries have higher vaccination rates than Australia.

Lives of pure garbage, no?

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

You might have seen the death rate of Delta in unvaccinated populations in India and Indonesia. Both of those countries have higher vaccination rates than Australia.

Only if you apply non-racist, non-white magic maths.  According to deplirable so-called 'scientific' Eurocentric, colonialist, stolen-from-Muslins, white supremacist, racist Trumphitlertarrantbrevik maths, on the other hand:

Australia 11 %
India 6.3 %
Indonesia 6.1 %

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html

:'( :'(   Sooooo racist.

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 1:08pm: You might have seen the death rate of Delta in unvaccinated populations in India and Indonesia. Both of those countries have higher vaccination rates than Australia. Only if you apply non-racist, non-white magic maths.  According to deplirable so-called 'scientific' Eurocentric, colonialist, stolen-from-Muslins, white supremacist, racist Trumphitlertarrantbrevik maths, on the other hand: Australia 11 % India 6.3 % Indonesia 6.1 % https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html :'( :'(   Sooooo racist.

Just so. Lower rates.

More doses administered.

You are correct. Are you racist?

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 3:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 1:59pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 1:08pm: You might have seen the death rate of Delta in unvaccinated populations in India and Indonesia. Both of those countries have higher vaccination rates than Australia. Only if you apply non-racist, non-white magic maths.  According to deplorable so-called 'scientific' Eurocentric, colonialist, stolen-from-Muslins, white supremacist, racist Trumphitlertarrantbrevik maths, on the other hand: Australia 11 % India 6.3 % Indonesia 6.1 % https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html :'( :'(   Sooooo racist. Just so. Lower rates. More doses administered. You are correct. Are you racist?

So you are lying for  - what?

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 8:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 3:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 1:59pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 22nd, 2021 at 1:08pm: You might have seen the death rate of Delta in unvaccinated populations in India and Indonesia. Both of those countries have higher vaccination rates than Australia. Only if you apply non-racist, non-white magic maths.  According to deplorable so-called 'scientific' Eurocentric, colonialist, stolen-from-Muslins, white supremacist, racist Trumphitlertarrantbrevik maths, on the other hand: Australia 11 % India 6.3 % Indonesia 6.1 % https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html :'( :'(   Sooooo racist. Just so. Lower rates. More doses administered. You are correct. Are you racist? So you are lying for  - what?

I'm telling the truth. I was wrong. You are correct.

Just so.

Now, up for a question yourself?