You nasty developing nations stop your carbon emissions immediately or Scotty will stamp his foot.

Australia's carbon emissions of 10x per capita of those of the developing world are holy, blessed, and cause no harm to the planet.

Even Australian cattle farts are saintly.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-ipcc-report-climate-change-global-warming-developing-world-carbon-emissions/2691ce3f-1a9b-4a0e-a496-1e31c0e5b877


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Scott Morrison criticises 'developing world' for carbon emissions By Mark Saunokonoko Nick Pearson 9:29pm Aug 10, 2021 Mr Morrison claimed Australia is "the most transparent country in the world" when it comes to reporting on emissions reductions. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. In three scenarios, the world will also likely exceed 2C over pre-industrial times — the other, less stringent Paris goal — with far worse heat waves, droughts and flood-inducing downpours "unless deep reductions in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions occur in the coming decades," the report said. ...

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:21pm:

You nasty developing nations stop your carbon emissions immediately or Scotty will stamp his foot. Australia's carbon emissions are holy, blessed, and cause no harm to the planet. https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-ipcc-report-climate-change-global-warming-developing-world-carbon-emissions/2691ce3f-1a9b-4a0e-a496-1e31c0e5b877 Quote: Scott Morrison criticises 'developing world' for carbon emissions By Mark Saunokonoko Nick Pearson 9:29pm Aug 10, 2021 Mr Morrison claimed Australia is "the most transparent country in the world" when it comes to reporting on emissions reductions. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. In three scenarios, the world will also likely exceed 2C over pre-industrial times — the other, less stringent Paris goal — with far worse heat waves, droughts and flood-inducing downpours "unless deep reductions in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions occur in the coming decades," the report's said. ...

He's right - first world emission cuts are swamped by third world emission increases.

And China - get this - is counted as a third world developing country for emission.  :'( :'(

Bertie wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:25pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 9:21pm: You nasty developing nations stop your carbon emissions immediately or Scotty will stamp his foot. Australia's carbon emissions are holy, blessed, and cause no harm to the planet. https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-ipcc-report-climate-change-global-warming-developing-world-carbon-emissions/2691ce3f-1a9b-4a0e-a496-1e31c0e5b877 Quote: Scott Morrison criticises 'developing world' for carbon emissions By Mark Saunokonoko Nick Pearson 9:29pm Aug 10, 2021 Mr Morrison claimed Australia is "the most transparent country in the world" when it comes to reporting on emissions reductions. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. In three scenarios, the world will also likely exceed 2C over pre-industrial times — the other, less stringent Paris goal — with far worse heat waves, droughts and flood-inducing downpours "unless deep reductions in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions occur in the coming decades," the report's said. ... He's right - first world emission cuts are swamped by third world emission increases. And China - get this - is counted as a third world developing country for emission.  :'( :'(

Australia has no substantial emission cuts other than the effects of Covid and a trickle of renewables.

The UK has nearly one-third the carbon emissions per capita that Australia has, NZ is 0.5x Australia's rate.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-ipcc-report-climate-change-global-warming-developing-world-carbon-emissions/2691ce3f-1a9b-4a0e-a496-1e31c0e5b877

Interesting maths. The developing world has 66% emissions and 70% population. We can't ignore that wisdom from Scott Emissions.

China, 30%
Oz, 1%

Oz is cutting back on the 1%. China is building more coal fired power every year than Oz's entire emission.

Because it's a 'developing' country.  :'(

And there are morons in Australia and the West who buy this swindle.

chimera wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:43pm:

Interesting maths. The developing world has 66% emissions and 70% population. We can't ignore that wisdom from Scott Emissions.

Not true. Cite and publish your source.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:21pm:

You nasty developing nations stop your carbon emissions immediately or Scotty will stamp his foot. Australia's carbon emissions of 10x per capita of those of the developing world are holy, blessed, and cause no harm to the planet. Even Australian cattle farts are saintly. https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-ipcc-report-climate-change-global-warming-developing-world-carbon-emissions/2691ce3f-1a9b-4a0e-a496-1e31c0e5b877 Quote: Scott Morrison criticises 'developing world' for carbon emissions By Mark Saunokonoko Nick Pearson 9:29pm Aug 10, 2021 Mr Morrison claimed Australia is "the most transparent country in the world" when it comes to reporting on emissions reductions. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. "And I will be calling on the rest of the world to match our transparency," he said. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report showed the world will cross the 1.5C warming mark in the 2030s. In three scenarios, the world will also likely exceed 2C over pre-industrial times — the other, less stringent Paris goal — with far worse heat waves, droughts and flood-inducing downpours "unless deep reductions in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions occur in the coming decades," the report said. ...

And  nothing there about criticising developing nations. but perhaps you left something out? ::)

Bertie wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:50pm:

China, 30% Oz, 1% Oz is cutting back on the 1%. China is building more coal fired power every year than Oz's entire emission. Because it's a 'developing' country.  :'( And there are morons in Australia and the West who buy this swindle.

This does not suit the alarmists,  virtue signallers and China apologists, therefore it is not mentioned in their rants.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:51pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 9:43pm: Interesting maths. The developing world has 66% emissions and 70% population. We can't ignore that wisdom from Scott Emissions. Not true. Cite and publish your source.

Wow. Such a non-believer. But he is wrong. He is too conservative on population.

According to the IMF the population of developing countries is about 85% of world population.

https://www.worlddata.info/developing-countries.php

And the emissions? He is slightly wrong as of 2015 their emissions of 63%.

https://www.cgdev.org/media/developing-countries-are-responsible-63-percent-current-carbon-emissions

chimera wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:43pm:

Interesting maths. The developing world has 66% emissions and 70% population. We can't ignore that wisdom from Scott Emissions.

Yeah. And in 10 years time, third world/developing nations might get to be 80% of the carbon emissions and 90% of the world's population. And their solution to cutting carbon emissions would be to dump their excess population onto the first world minority who will have to scramble over the years to find places for these new 'migrants' because-because-because the average person in the developing world in 2031 may only be producing 7/10ths the amount of pollution as the average first-world person.

How about adopting an idea that the first world has made their own mess and have started to make great strides in cleaning them up? And that the third world could learn from the mistakes that the first world has done and develop their economies with sustainable energy sources? The first world had not a precedent in place to learn how to deal with pollution, when they developed industries. The third world does.

Gee - it's a miracle!  Someone blames the emerging world for pollution when the emerging world is creating the vast majority of pollution.... and that's only the people they export...................... then there is a dark side..... industry based on fossil fuels.....

This one's for you Smithy...

"What do they call a planeload of Italians arriving at the airport?"

"Air pollution"..... (sorry Lols.. I know you're better) .....

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11^th, 2021 at 9:51pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 9:43pm: Interesting maths. The developing world has 66% emissions and 70% population. We can't ignore that wisdom from Scott Emissions. Not true. Cite and publish your source.

Hey LTC , I was supporting your views. This is from your quoted site:
"We cannot ignore the fact that the developing world accounts for two thirds of global emissions and those emissions are rising," he said. 66%

This is 10 years old but still is relevant.
"The vast majority (70 per cent) live in developing countries."

https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/pdf/popfacts/popfacts_2010-6.pdf

 Of the world population in 2016 (7.5 billion), 6.1 billion people, 80%, lived in developing economies.
https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/tdstat42_FS11_en.pd

So they are less polluting than OECD by populations.

This may be of assistance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage
In mathematics, a percentage (from Latin per centum "by a hundred") is a number or ratio expressed as a fraction of 100. It is often denoted using the percent sign, "%"

The bottom ten countries on the list of emissions per capita have less than one-tenth the emissions of Australia.

NZ is half the emissions of Australia per capita.

UK and other European countries have ~one-third the emissions of Australia.

Developed countries have been polluting for over 100 years.

Bottom ten below

182      Ethiopia      0.12      2014
183      Niger              0.11      2014
184      Mali              0.08      2014
185      Malawi      0.08      2014
186      Rwanda      0.08      2014
187      Central African Republic      0.07      2014
188      Dem. Rep. Congo              0.06      2014
189      Chad              0.05      2014
190      Somalia      0.05      2014
191      Burundi      0.04      2014
192      Sudan      0.00      2018

Top eleven polluters below:

1      Qatar              43.86      2014
2      Trinidad and Tobago      33.97      2014
3      Kuwait              25.85      2014
4      Bahrain              23.46      2014
5      United Arab Emirates      22.94      2014
6      Brunei              22.23      2014
7      Saudi Arabia      19.44      2014
8      Luxembourg      17.36      2014
9      United States      16.50      2014
10      New Caledonia      16.01      2014
11      Australia              15.39      2014

By population, Australia is 3 times average. China is twice average emissions.  Australia and China bad.

Oh dear, we are back to the flawed notion that gross CO2 emissions don't count it is the per capita emissions that do. ::)

The developed word has benefited from pumping fossil fuels into the atmosphere for centuries and is now complaining they are being asked to do more....Why should anyone do anything if those who have the ways and means and benefited the most leave it to others....Responsibility and accountability are hollow words when they are not supported by action....We all suffer the consequences of AGW and must all do more to reduce emissions where ever possible instead of passing the buck like the Coalition always does when faces with a challenge!!!

::) ::) ::)

lee wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 10:28am:

Oh dear, we are back to the flawed notion that gross CO2 emissions don't count it is the per capita emissions that do. ::)

A country has 1 person. Next to him is another. And another. Before long you have a whole country.  Some are developed. Others are not. Developed.

chimera wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

lee wrote on Aug 12th, 2021 at 10:28am: Oh dear, we are back to the flawed notion that gross CO2 emissions don't count it is the per capita emissions that do. ::) A country has 1 person. Next to him is another. And another. Before long you have a whole country.  Some are developed. Others are not. Developed.

We are not in it together.

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chimera wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:43am:

By population, Australia is 3 times average. China is twice average emissions.  Australia and China bad.

Australia could pollute the same amount for the next 29 years and it will not do any considerable damage worldwide. But, China would need to reduce its industrial pollution output by about 50 times to be a decent non-polluting nation.

Then its population would be like Australia. Your maths is as good as Scomo's.

chimera wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Then its population would be like Australia. Your maths is as good as Scomo's.

If China put in place technology that reduced its industrial pollution by 50 times, that would be a fantastic attempt at reducing global carbon emissions. But, the reality is that an amazing attempt at pollution reduction would be if China reduced the pollution output by 10 times.

Australia could theoretically be carbon neutral and have clean energy and marginal pollution compared to what we have today. The only place that would benefit from this would be Australia. It would still be reason enough to implement these strategies. The rest of the world would still be polluting like usual.

Scomo could put Brittany Higgins as PM and he could join Labor. Xi could go fruit-picking in Riverina and play bass guitar in the evening.

chimera wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

Scomo could put Brittany Higgins as PM and he could join Labor. Xi could go fruit-picking in Riverina and play bass guitar in the evening.

Yeah, well it is not like I could live to see the day China could reduce its current pollution output by 50 times. But I could live to see the day when China reduces its pollution to 1/10th of what it is. I could say the same about Australia, too.

ScoMo can whip the undeveloped world for the European record temperature of 48.8C in Italy.

Those undeveloped world people should know better than to expose our wog mates to excessive heat and should seek forgiveness from Australia in particular for the AGW crimes of the undeveloped world.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58130893


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Italy may have registered Europe's hottest temperature on record Published3 hours ago The Italian island of Sicily may have registered the hottest temperature ever recorded in Europe - 48.8C (119.8F). Regional authorities reported the reading, which needs to be verified by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), near Syracuse on Wednesday. According to the WMO, the current official record in Europe is 48C, registered in Athens, Greece, in 1977. The latest heatwave in Italy is being caused by an anticyclone - nicknamed Lucifer - moving up from Africa. Anticyclones are areas of high atmospheric pressure where the air is sinking. Lucifer is forecast to head north across mainland Italy, further raising temperatures in cities including the capital, Rome.

It's possible if they get a war going. Win one, lose one. Or maybe lose two.

chimera wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Then its population would be like Australia. Your maths is as good as Scomo's.

Can you tell me how the math goes? Is it MWh@per person or it it more complicated than that? How does the country's sequestration offset it's @head emmissions? It's wind and solar generation? How is this number arrived at?

"Mr Morrison said Australia had a "strong track record of performance" in reducing emissions.
"We cannot ignore the fact that the developing world accounts for two thirds of global emissions and those emissions are rising," he said."

Is it MWh@per person or it it more complicated than that?
Do you count the methane from the limestone in bushfires in Siberia?Why does the Amazon absorb oxygen at night? Will Scomo go for hard lock-down on coal, this is coal don't be scared?
Scomo?

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Scott Morrison criticises 'developing world' for carbon emissions

"Where The Bloody Hell" did Morrison think the mega-tonnes of Australian brown coal exports were ending up and used for ?

As a FOOD source ?

"There is no way you can write the sentence, “The treasurer of Australia, Scott Morrison, came to question time with a lump of coal on Thursday,” and have that sentence seem anything other than the ravings of a psychedelic trip, so let’s just say it and be done with it.

Scott Morrison brought coal into the House of Representatives. A nice big hunk of black coal, kindly supplied by the Minerals Council of Australia.

“This is coal,” the treasurer said triumphantly, brandishing the trophy as if he’d just stumbled across an exotic species previously thought to be extinct.

“Don’t be afraid,” he said, soothingly, “don’t be scared.”

No one was afraid, or scared. People were just confused. "

Globally, many more people die from cold than from heat. A new study in the highly respected journal Lancet shows that about half a million people die from heat, but 4.5 million people die from cold. As temperatures have increased over the past two decades, that has caused an extra 116,000 heat deaths each year. This, of course, fits the narrative and is what we have heard over and again. But it turns out that because global warming has also reduced cold waves, we now see 283,000 fewer cold deaths. You don’t hear this, but so far climate change saves 166,000 lives each year.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext

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Floods are the major cause of disaster deaths at 65,000 average /year during past 20 years. Global warming probably influenced this.

There are 500,000 on the edge of starvation, also influenced by warming droughts. These will increase over time.

chimera wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

Floods are the major cause of disaster deaths at 65,000 average /year during past 20 years. Global warming probably influenced this.

https://i2.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/climate-related-deaths.png

Interesting.  The deaths may be reducing by dam-building (as on Yangtze, China) and modern famine relief.
As a climate record there is this:

https://media.springernature.com/original/springer-static/image/prt%3A978-1-4020-4399-4%2F23/MediaObjects/978-1-4020-4399-4_23_Part_Fig1-29_HTML.gif

https://www.google.com/search?q=natural+disasters+1980+world+graph&rlz=1C1JZAP_enAU919AU919&sxsrf=ALeKk03hZG0WFn7psBQZ1Jx97QO4XqstBg:1629009419932&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=So8c-V4Dm8eSsM%252CBUq83pijPNQc4M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRf8aeErG3lH-JMXciqujne40Nakw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC6L3-tLLyAhWYcn0KHf_1D1MQ9QF6BAgLEAE#imgrc=-DyOwxhzuNXXWM

From 1900-2019.
https://www.google.com/search?q=natural+disasters+1980+world+graph&rlz=1C1JZAP_enAU919AU919&sxsrf=ALeKk03hZG0WFn7psBQZ1Jx97QO4XqstBg:1629009419932&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=So8c-V4Dm8eSsM%252CBUq83pijPNQc4M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRf8aeErG3lH-JMXciqujne40Nakw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC6L3-tLLyAhWYcn0KHf_1D1MQ9QF6BAgLEAE#imgrc=diX1ARW0W1jMyM

Amazing - the heaviest polluters are responsible for the heaviest pollution problems?  Who'd 've thunk it..

No wonder so many in the world think We of The West are weak, decadent and stupid... when we've got self-professed experts coming out with utter crap like that as if it's The New Gospel ...

FFS..............

On the other hand, Blacks and women are not responsible for their own doing... it's all the Old White Man's fault.... any Accredited Victim Group is not responsible, under the feminist-sponsored 'Critical Race Theory', derived from Feminist Mania, for any wrongdoing (The Oppressor Has No Rights - ergo, The Oppressed And Only The Oppressed Has All Rights, Right Or Wrong, To Destroy The Oppressor - no wonder those farken Neo-Nazis are stirring - Inevitable™, innit?)) ... what an utter load of codswallop.

No wonder some little pin-dicks think they can lord it over us these days... gonna cost one hell of a lot of blood, sweat and tears to restore sanity.

Afghanistan falls - Taiwan next since the West is so weak..... blood, sweat and tears... the only thing that can possibly save the West from itself is another major conflict in which there are no holds barred and in which the issues are clear - it's either us or Invasion/Enslavement to some incredibly pissy 7th Century mindthink ideology.

Until they hit Pearl Harbour, the common folk in America had hardly heard of Japan....

All those years since the 1960's, when the  young ones started to disapprove of things and demand change for the better - swept down the storm water drains into the endless sea of death and destruction created by petty tyrants the West thought they could convert with Silver Bullets.

The bottom line remains that every Australian is being asked to reduce our economic prosperity by transferring wealth to China and elsewhere.

China has in recent days reiterated that it will in no way amend its current settings under the Paris Agreement targets, which leave China free to carry on increasing its carbon emissions for the rest of the decade, at which point it pledges not to reduce them but to maintain them at that heightened 2030 level. Paying lip-service to the IPCC report and by turning up in Glasgow for COP26 in November, as the Prime Minister intends to do, is to acquiesce to this insanity.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:47am:

Amazing - the heaviest polluters are responsible for the heaviest pollution problems?  Who'd 've thunk it.. No wonder so many in the world think We of The West are weak, decadent and stupid... when we've got self-professed experts coming out with utter crap like that as if it's The New Gospel ... FFS.............. On the other hand, Blacks and women are not responsible for their own doing... it's all the Old White Man's fault.... any Accredited Victim Group is not responsible, under the feminist-sponsored 'Critical Race Theory', derived from Feminist Mania, for any wrongdoing (The Oppressor Has No Rights - ergo, The Oppressed And Only The Oppressed Has All Rights, Right Or Wrong, To Destroy The Oppressor - no wonder those farken Neo-Nazis are stirring - Inevitable™, innit?)) ... what an utter load of codswallop. No wonder some little pin-dicks think they can lord it over us these days... gonna cost one hell of a lot of blood, sweat and tears to restore sanity. Afghanistan falls - Taiwan next since the West is so weak..... blood, sweat and tears... the only thing that can possibly save the West from itself is another major conflict in which there are no holds barred and in which the issues are clear - it's either us or Invasion/Enslavement to some incredibly pissy 7th Century mindthink ideology. Until they hit Pearl Harbour, the common folk in America had hardly heard of Japan.... All those years since the 1960's, when the  young ones started to disapprove of things and demand change for the better - swept down the storm water drains into the endless sea of death and destruction created by petty tyrants the West thought they could convert with Silver Bullets.

Oh - being Chinese - a supposedly 'Oppressed"™ social group, renders unto you special privileges to not be responsible.  Your pollution isn't your fault - it's the fault of the nations who sold you on the idea of making billions out of it..... there, there, little man.... Mummy will take care of you by chastising the West...

Cue mothra - one of those who has zero idea that they are the New City Hall - the State - to which I refer when I say I am happy to be an Enemy of the State, as long as I support real people and the nation.