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Title: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:31am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-study-moderna-vaccine-far-better-than-pfizer-at-preventing-delta-infection/

US study: Moderna vaccine far better than Pfizer at preventing Delta infection
Mayo Clinic research finds both inoculations have dropped in efficacy, but Pfizer’s decline has been much steeper; both remain highly effective against severe illness
By TOI staff Today, 9:57 pm

The study uploaded to medRxiv ahead of peer review this week found that while both vaccines were highly effective in preventing infection in January, before the introduction of Delta — hovering at around 90 percent — by July the effectiveness of both shots had dropped.

However, one was still far more effective than the other — while Moderna was down to 76 percent, Pfizer was down to 42%. The study was conducted among over 50,000 patients.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am

Classic case of just reading the headline. Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:41am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

So I guess thats a no on actually reading anything. Plus all it means if the 42% is true just get a booster with Moderna

Stupid twat.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:43am

It looks like the Pfizer vax is not good enough.
I had the AZ vax and I’m not sure about it’s efficacy against the Delta variant.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:44am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

So I guess thats a no on actually reading anything. Plus all it means if the 42% is true just get a booster with Moderna

Stupid twat.

No need for abuse - you prick.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by aquascoot on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:44am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

So I guess thats a no on actually reading anything. Plus all it means if the 42% is true just get a booster with Moderna

Stupid twat.

How about advising people to lose some weight
Considering the obese are 10 times as likely to be admitted to an ICU unit

Oh sorry common sense doesn't come into it when all you are interested in doing
Is maximizing the profits of pfiza and moderna ;D

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:46am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

So I guess thats a no on actually reading anything. Plus all it means if the 42% is true just get a booster with Moderna

Stupid twat.

We've been doing that for years. Remember the ads with Norm?

Jesus did the COVID outbreak just lower IQs everywhere. FMD.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:53am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

So I guess thats a no on actually reading anything. Plus all it means if the 42% is true just get a booster with Moderna

Stupid twat.

Gladys is saying that once NSW gets to 70% vaccination level she'll open it up -
as though the vax is some magic solution.
It's not.
She's wasting everyone's time.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:05am

Death has 100% efficacy.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by issuevoter on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:09am

Thank you! China!

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:13am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

Death has 100% efficacy.

Pfizer has only 42% efficacy.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:33am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:13am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

Death has 100% efficacy.

Pfizer has only 42% efficacy.

Are you advocating death's 100% efficacy as Bobby's 100% solution?

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 12:39pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:13am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

Death has 100% efficacy.

Pfizer has only 42% efficacy.

Are you advocating death's 100% efficacy as Bobby's 100% solution?

We wanted 95% efficacy at least.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

So I guess thats a no on actually reading anything. Plus all it means if the 42% is true just get a booster with Moderna

Stupid twat.

No need for abuse - you prick.

mucus will be advocating daily boosters to keep the share price from collapsing :D LOL

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

The real efficacy is something like 1% so little wonder it is not doing anything except with the pollies spin.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by NorthOfNorth on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Living with that much fear... What is the point of your having lived at all?

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:12pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

The real efficacy is something like 1% so little wonder it is not doing anything except with the pollies spin.

Only Jesus can save us now.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:13pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Living with that much fear... What is the point of your having lived at all?

The TV and the online media are publishing fear porn every minute of the day.
I've bought into it.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by NorthOfNorth on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:12pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Classic case of just reading the headline.
Try the study, the authors were cautious to explain the study is very limited.

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

The real efficacy is something like 1% so little wonder it is not doing anything except with the pollies spin.

Only Jesus can save us now.

Maybe Hanuman.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by NorthOfNorth on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:13pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Living with that much fear... What is the point of your having lived at all?

The TV and the online media are publishing fear porn every minute of the day.
I've bought into it.

Have you tried gardening?

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:18pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:13pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Living with that much fear... What is the point of your having lived at all?

The TV and the online media are publishing fear porn every minute of the day.
I've bought into it.

Have you tried gardening?

Not for a long time.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by NorthOfNorth on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:18pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:13pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Living with that much fear... What is the point of your having lived at all?

The TV and the online media are publishing fear porn every minute of the day.
I've bought into it.

Have you tried gardening?

Not for a long time.

There you go...

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 6:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:31am:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-study-moderna-vaccine-far-better-than-pfizer-at-preventing-delta-infection/

US study: Moderna vaccine far better than Pfizer at preventing Delta infection
Mayo Clinic research finds both inoculations have dropped in efficacy, but Pfizer’s decline has been much steeper; both remain highly effective against severe illness
By TOI staff Today, 9:57 pm

The study uploaded to medRxiv ahead of peer review this week found that while both vaccines were highly effective in preventing infection in January, before the introduction of Delta — hovering at around 90 percent — by July the effectiveness of both shots had dropped.

However, one was still far more effective than the other — while Moderna was down to 76 percent, Pfizer was down to 42%. The study was conducted among over 50,000 patients.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Bobby. on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 10:59pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-shot-later-infected-with-covid-19/

Fourteen Israelis have been diagnosed with COVID-19 despite
having been inoculated with a third COVID-19 vaccine dose.

Two of those infected after receiving the booster shot have been hospitalized.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Ajax on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 11:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:31am:

Current crop of so called vaccines are not vaccines just treatments.

When was the last time vaccines worked like this, a few more months and zero protection.

Title: Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.
Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:03am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 3:13pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

No 42% is hopeless.
The vaccine will not save us.

Living with that much fear... What is the point of your having lived at all?

The TV and the online media are publishing fear porn every minute of the day.
I've bought into it.

Have you tried gardening?

gardening is one of the better things a person can do for themselves and the planet