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Message started by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:07pm

Title: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:07pm
Religious nutters carrying daggers to school is just insane.

A kid got stabbed in the back at school by one of these nutters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/religious-knives-to-be-allowed-in-nsw-schools-again/100374484

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:22pm
"The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."

Something like a crucifix or butter knife in school lunch?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:29pm
So if you're a Sikh  you can carry a knife.

In Victoria we can't even have a tiny pocket knife on our key ring.
Even a 1 inch blade with a 1 inch handle is illegal.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:29pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:22pm:
"The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."

Something like a crucifix or butter knife in school lunch?

That's not a knife, wait, yes it is, tell the kid who got stabbed in the back it was no worse than a butter knife only they probably don't bend or break when hitting a bone, does the metalwork teacher check on sharpness.

The rest of the kids will be bringing snooker balls in socks to school to even things up a bit.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:34pm
"Ms Mitchell said the decision to carry the kirpan, an important one for many Sikhs, would be discussed on an individual basis and any student who did not comply with the guidelines would face disciplinary action."

Is it possible that a school employee may actually ask to see the kirpan?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Karnal on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
So if you're a Sikh  you can carry a knife.


Yeah, but you have to wear a turban, can't cut your hair, and you're not allowed to drink.

I don't think too many will be converting to Sikhism to have the luxury of carrying around an 8.5 cm blunt knife.

We used to do more damage with a compass. Hold one against a PE teacher's neck for a couple of minutes and you'll never have to run the oval again.

Take it from me, boys, it doesn't work if you get conscripted and sent to Kapuka.

Been there, done that.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Karnal on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:13pm
Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.


Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:20pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
So if you're a Sikh  you can carry a knife.


Yes, but you have to wear a turban, can't cut your hair, and you're not allowed to drink.

I don't think too many will be converting to Sikhism to have the luxury of carrying around an 8.5 cm blunt knife.

You?

It's not compulsory to do any of those things in Sikhism so they can choose to carry a dagger or not in Australia, religious pandering at its best,, THAT'S NOT A KNIFE!, wait, what's that sticking out of that kids back.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Gordon on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:40pm
Do cabbies carry them? They'd frkup a bottle throwing retard.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:43pm
"It is also part of a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh in 1699, in which he gave an option to the Sikhs, if they accepted they must wear the five articles of faith (the five Ks) at all times, the kirpan being one of five Ks".

Parramatta Marist High School 1954. "You got a light, buddy?"
Paul "Sure, there you go".
"And your wallet".
Linda  "He's got a knife".
Paul "That's not a knife".
"Neither is that".
"No. It's a crucifix".
"$%(!$**$#^ " ( feet running fast)

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:05pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:43pm:
"It is also part of a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh in 1699, in which he gave an option to the Sikhs, if they accepted they must wear the five articles of faith (the five Ks) at all times, the kirpan being one of five Ks".

Parramatta Marist High School 1954. "You got a light, buddy?"
Paul "Sure, there you go".
"And your wallet".
Linda  "He's got a knife".
Paul "That's not a knife".
"Neither is that".
"No. It's a crucifix".
"$%(!$**$#^ " ( feet running fast)

Gurus with their commandments need to get with the times, what are they going to do, run around with hair clippers and measuring sticks to measure their shanks. The modern Sikh's have made their own rules on Sikhism and carrying a blade is their right in Australia.

That IS a knife!


Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:26pm
"We have worked closely with community representatives, including from the Australian Sikh Association and the NSW Gurdwara Group, as well as Multicultural NSW and other government agencies, to develop these new guidelines."  The new guidelines mean:
The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."
--
"No" determiner. means   not any.
"Sharp" means:   (of an object) having an edge or point that is able to cut or pierce something.
What the government position is can be found by joining the two : "no sharp". Probably the concept relates to not having an ability to cut. A sharp edge can certainly cut, a not sharp edge is much less able to cut. It's not cutting.  The kirpan is un-sharp. It has not any sharpness. An un-cutting edge. You could even say it's an un-cutter.

Now we can move onto the word "points". Or you could look up the meaning for "points".

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:43pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:26pm:
"We have worked closely with community representatives, including from the Australian Sikh Association and the NSW Gurdwara Group, as well as Multicultural NSW and other government agencies, to develop these new guidelines."  The new guidelines mean:
The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."
--
"No" determiner. means   not any.
"Sharp" means:   (of an object) having an edge or point that is able to cut or pierce something.
What the government position is can be found by joining the two : "no sharp". Probably the concept relates to not having an ability to cut. A sharp edge can certainly cut, a not sharp edge is much less able to cut. It's not cutting.  The kirpan is un-sharp. It has not any sharpness. An un-cutting edge. You could even say it's an un-cutter.

Now we can move onto the word "points". Or you could look up the meaning for "points".

Do you know what the purpose of a kirpan (a shank) is, i will tell you, it's to kill and how come that kirpan pierced that kids back if it was not sharp or not even just a little bit sharp. That religious nutter kid was going for the kill, he also  stabbed the kid in the gut.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Valkie on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:47pm
I say let everyone except monkeys or muzzos carry knives.


Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:51pm
"New" means produced, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time; not existing before.
"Guidelines"  means a general rule, principle, or piece of advice.

There were old guidelines, followed by new guidelines. The old ones are not the new ones, which are new guidelines. Those guidelines are now "new". They are different from the old ones.  In exactly the same way, the old ones are different from the new ones. So we can combine our two words - new guidelines. Can you see what these words are saying?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:00pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 7:51pm:
"New" means produced, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time; not existing before.
"Guidelines"  means a general rule, principle, or piece of advice.

There were old guidelines, followed by new guidelines. The old ones are not the new ones, which are new guidelines. Those guidelines are now "new". They are different from the old ones.  In exactly the same way, the old ones are different from the new ones. So we can combine our two words - new guidelines. Can you see what these words are saying?

I am glad we have that one cleared up Chimera, religious freedom rules the day.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:04pm
Good boy. Religious freedom. Common sense. Compromise. Not sharp edges. School safe. Smile for photo.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:08pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:04pm:
Good boy. Religious freedom. Common sense. Compromise. Not sharp edges. School safe. Smile for photo.

Religious freedom even if that means stabbing kids in schoolyards with legal knifes to prove the point.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:16pm
What schools have kids carrying sharp knives?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Gordon on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:23pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
What schools have kids carrying sharp knives?


GBH.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/parramatta/granville-boys-high-school-considers-knife-amnesty-as-students-arm-themselves-with-knives/news-story/9b808ed5cee1de7b1b94e4566e557ba4

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:26pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
What schools have kids carrying sharp knives?

Probably all of them these days but only the Sikhs are legally allowed to carry.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Aussie on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:26pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
So if you're a Sikh  you can carry a knife.


Yeah, but you have to wear a turban, can't cut your hair, and you're not allowed to drink.

I don't think too many will be converting to Sikhism to have the luxury of carrying around an 8.5 cm blunt knife.

We used to do more damage with a compass. Hold one against a PE teacher's neck for a couple of minutes and you'll never have to run the oval again.

Take it from me, boys, it doesn't work if you get conscripted and sent to Kapuka.

Been there, done that.


Or a pencil.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Aussie on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:29pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:26pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
What schools have kids carrying sharp knives?

Probably all of them these days but only the Sikhs are legally allowed to carry.


I have to confess that I got very scared by some of those large pointy crucifixes some kids wore at my School.  They could have done me serious damage.  Waaah!



Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:36pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:23pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
What schools have kids carrying sharp knives?


GBH.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/parramatta/granville-boys-high-school-considers-knife-amnesty-as-students-arm-themselves-with-knives/news-story/9b808ed5cee1de7b1b94e4566e557ba4

June 15, 2015 -

Today is not June 15, 2015. Today is 13/08/2021.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:38pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:26pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
What schools have kids carrying sharp knives?

Probably all of them these days but only the Sikhs are legally allowed to carry.


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Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm
Beware the Sikh, he or she is probably armed legally and very dangerous being of the religious nutter types, there knives are usually very sharp as well as that kid in the schoolyard will attest.

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Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:46pm
Senile is often combined with other words, such as senile Alzheimer's and senile dementia.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:57pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:46pm:
Senile is often combined with other words, such as senile Alzheimer's and senile dementia.

Are you ok chimera?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:58pm
A coma is a deep state of unconsciousness. It can happen as a result of a traumatic accident, such as a blow to the head, or a medical condition, for example, some types of infection. Coma is different from sleep because the person is unable to wake up. It is not the same as brain death. The person is alive, but they cannot respond in the normal way to their environment.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 13th, 2021 at 9:00pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:58pm:
A coma is a deep state of unconsciousness. It can happen as a result of a traumatic accident, such as a blow to the head, or a medical condition, for example, some types of infection. Coma is different from sleep because the person is unable to wake up. It is not the same as brain death. The person is alive, but they cannot respond in the normal way to their environment.

Yes but are you ok?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 13th, 2021 at 11:38pm
Of course you can wear a ceremonial dagger, Akbah Singh - but only if it's a rubber one.  don;t whinge - it's only ceremonial anyway, you woos!

85mm?  nearly 3.5 inches?  Plenty long enough to pierce a cardium....

Aaargh - stick that in your ear, Whartey!! Or stick that up your arse!  (ouch).... oh, you brute - only 85 mm!!

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 13th, 2021 at 11:41pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 9:00pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:58pm:
A coma is a deep state of unconsciousness. It can happen as a result of a traumatic accident, such as a blow to the head, or a medical condition, for example, some types of infection. Coma is different from sleep because the person is unable to wake up. It is not the same as brain death. The person is alive, but they cannot respond in the normal way to their environment.

Yes but are you ok?


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Some to Misery are Born
Every Morn and every Night
Some are Born to sweet delight
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Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by freediver on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:35am
I remember a classmate in primary school always had a pairing knife for peeling his apple etc. He was a bit of a nutter. But no-one ever got stabbed. He tried to crack my head open with a flat tennis ball once.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Kat on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:41am

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:35am:
I remember a classmate in primary school always had a pairing knife for peeling his apple etc. He was a bit of a nutter. But no-one ever got stabbed. He tried to crack my head open with a flat tennis ball once.


I always carried a pocket-knife at high-school as I did tech drawing and used
it, legitimately, to get a better point to my drawing pencils.

I'd then touch-up the points with a strip of emery glued to a piece of timber.

Anyone do TD at school and remember what they were called, by everyone
including the teacher?

I'll give you a clue - it began with 'N' and ended in 'R'. Six letters.

NO-ONE batted so much as an eyelid.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Neferti on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:47am

Gordon wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Do cabbies carry them? They'd frkup a bottle throwing retard.


;D ;D

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Neferti on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:49am

Johnnie wrote on Aug 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
Beware the Sikh, he or she is probably armed legally and very dangerous being of the religious nutter types, there knives are usually very sharp as well as that kid in the schoolyard will attest.


You wouldn't want one of those poked in your eye or elsewhere!

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Valkie on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:06am
Anything can be used as a weapon.

Anything if abused can be picked up and used.

The banning of knives at school is reasonable.

But banning the general public from having a pocket knife is draconian and simply stupid.


Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 10:26am
They should allow everyone to carry fire arms to shoot their way out of trouble.  Guns beat knives 20:1 in US. Most Australian homicide was by knife in 2020.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:07am

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:35am:
I remember a classmate in primary school always had a pairing knife for peeling his apple etc. He was a bit of a nutter. But no-one ever got stabbed. He tried to crack my head open with a flat tennis ball once.

Back in the day i was in the cadets and we used to walk around the school yard with 303's, any number of kids could have gotten hold of some cartridges and blown away a few bullies.

Times have changed and the innocence has long gone, giving religious nutters the right to carry weapons in schools nonetheless is religious pandering gone nuts. oi

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 12:10pm
During Indonesia's confrontation days, we had butter knives fitted as bayonets during combat training in school cadets.  The idea was adopted by the RAR, taken to the front line trenches in Malaysia and caused terror to Sukarno. He withdrew and signed the surrender at Butterworth, named for the Australian victory.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Kat on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:48pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:06am:
Anything can be used as a weapon.

Anything if abused can be picked up and used.

The banning of knives at school is reasonable.

But [highlight]banning the general public from having a pocket knife is draconian and simply stupid[/highlight].


So, it appears we DO agree on something.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:55pm
Oh no it's starting to be a peoples' right-to bear-weapons dispute.  A pocket knife, fags and two bob for the phone-box are everyone's right.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:08pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
Oh no it's starting to be a peoples' right-to bear-weapons dispute.  A pocket knife, fags and two bob for the phone-box are everyone's right.

Only Sikhs and cops are allowed bear-weapons in Australia.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm
No, koalas are protected. They taste terrible.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:26pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm:
No, koalas are protected. They taste terrible.

What has that got to do with it, are you ok freak.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:42pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:08pm:
Only Sikhs and cops are allowed bear-weapons in Australia.


Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:55pm
I don't have any problems with Sikh religious types they can be reasoned with.

The Sikh have fought and died with Australians at Gallipoli and WW1 and WW2.

Remembering Australia's bearded, turbaned war heroes
https://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2014/04/24/3991620.htm

These pens are legal probably just as deadly if you think about it easily concealed as well.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tactical+pen&crid=31DAHZ9PTJM6E&sprefix=tactica%2Caps%2C386&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_7_7

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Valkie on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:57pm
As a boy scout, I carried a cheap pocket knife as part of our gear.

When I became a Rover and got a job, I bought a beautiful Victornox Tinker.

Over the years, I have always carried a small pocket knife.
At one stage, for protection, but those days are long gone because the draconian grubberment has mandated that even tiny Victornox Classics are deemed a weapon.
These are actually smaller than keys, but the Arsetralian grubberment are so terrified of people carrying anything is frightening to them.

When working, I still carry either my Victornox Farmer x or one of my Leatherman tools.
While working with the rescue organisation I work, I carry a Leatherman wingman.
It is invaluable in some situations and the razor sharp knife is easily accessed if a rope needs to be cut in an emergency.

At home I have many beautiful knives
No longer able to be carried, they now simply make up my collection.
My favourites are my Damascus knives and throwing knives, the latter I practice with regularly.

Every knife is sharpened with a Ruixin knife sharpener with which I can set the exact angle and sharpen the knives to perfection every time.

I have vintage and antique knives, one over 150 years old.
And several working knives.
Alas, my first knife was thrown away many years ago.
But every other knife I have ever owned I still have.
And I still collect, as part of a knife collectors club.


Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm
The Sikhs should lay down their arms in Australia, we are all in this together so no breaking the rules.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:21pm
A person is not guilty of the offence if he or she is able to establish they had a ‘reasonable excuse’ for possessing the knife.

A ‘reasonable excuse’ includes, but is not limited to, the knife being ‘reasonably necessary’ for:

The lawful pursuit of an occupation, education or training,
The preparation or consumption of food or drink,
Participation in lawful entertainment, recreation or sport,
Exhibition for retail, trade or collector purposes,
Wearing an official uniform,
Genuine religious purposes, or
Travel to or from any of the above.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:29pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
A person is not guilty of the offence if he or she is able to establish they had a ‘reasonable excuse’ for possessing the knife.

A ‘reasonable excuse’ includes, but is not limited to, the knife being ‘reasonably necessary’ for:

The lawful pursuit of an occupation, education or training,
The preparation or consumption of food or drink,
Participation in lawful entertainment, recreation or sport,
Exhibition for retail, trade or collector purposes,
Wearing an official uniform,
Genuine religious purposes, or
Travel to or from any of the above.


So a muslim can carry their favourite beheading knife which they can prove is for religious purposes if it has verses from the Quran on it like this one.



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Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:31pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
A person is not guilty of the offence if he or she is able to establish they had a ‘reasonable excuse’ for possessing the knife.

A ‘reasonable excuse’ includes, but is not limited to, the knife being ‘reasonably necessary’ for:

The lawful pursuit of an occupation, education or training,
The preparation or consumption of food or drink,
Participation in lawful entertainment, recreation or sport,
Exhibition for retail, trade or collector purposes,
Wearing an official uniform,
Genuine religious purposes, or
Travel to or from any of the above.

There is a bit of an advantage for a religious type or anyone being allowed to travel around with a shank.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:41pm
If you can search for that image you can find the law on knives:
The section makes clear that a reasonable excuse does not include having custody of the knife solely for the purpose of self-defence or the defence of another person.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:57pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:41pm:
If you can search for that image you can find the law on knives:
The section makes clear that a reasonable excuse does not include having custody of the knife solely for the purpose of self-defence or the defence of another person.

Exactly, so being a Shik allows carrying a blade.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by rhino on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:02pm
I think thats already been established.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:04pm

rhino wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
I think thats already been established.

One in all in, that's not a knife.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:06pm
A Sikh child can not carry a blade in school. The kirpan must be blunt with no point.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:12pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:06pm:
A Sikh child can not carry a blade in school. The kirpan must be blunt with no point.

That's good.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:19pm
Right. It's from
Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Reply #1 - Yesterday at 5:22pm

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:27pm

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:28pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
Right. It's from
Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Reply #1 - Yesterday at 5:22pm

What has that got to do with anything, front and center weirdo

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:29pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
The Sikhs should lay down their arms in Australia, we are all in this together so no breaking the rules.


One Law For All - All Laws For One!!

Take it or leave........ even our Blecks don't get special legal privileges like spearing one another in the tribal way...

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:30pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:27pm:

If only we all played by the same rules.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:35pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
Right. It's from
Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Reply #1 - Yesterday at 5:22pm

What has that got to do with anything, front and center weirdo



It means you read about blunt kirpans 26 hours ago .

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:05pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:29pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
The Sikhs should lay down their arms in Australia, we are all in this together so no breaking the rules.


One Law For All - All Laws For One!!

Take it or leave........ even our Blecks don't get special legal privileges like spearing one another in the tribal way...

It's lucky Muslims don't have exemption to shank-bearing privileges.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:15pm
It's not luck, it's law, which you've read many times.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:30pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
It's not luck, it's law, which you've read many times.

How can it be law when it only applies to one section of the community, i think the Shiks should be disarmed in the name of civility.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:36pm
New South Wales Consolidated Acts
SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1988 - SECT 11C
Custody of knife in public place or school
11C Custody of knife in public place or school.

It applies to New South Wales. That is a state in the country of Australia. You live in Australia. English is used in NSW. English is used in this forum. The number 11 comes after the number 10.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:41pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
New South Wales Consolidated Acts
SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1988 - SECT 11C
Custody of knife in public place or school
11C Custody of knife in public place or school.

It applies to New South Wales. That is a state in the country of Australia. You live in Australia. English is used in NSW. English is used in this forum. The number 11 comes after the number 10.

Yes that adds up, good work on google there.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:45pm
Remember. Blunt. No point.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:50pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:45pm:
Remember. Blunt. No point.

I remember everything, i am like an elephant, you have no cause and no direction and i feel sorry for your type.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:59pm
Does that include the Australian legal system?

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:25pm

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:59pm:
Does that include the Australian legal system?

A sub clause must be there somewhere enabling religious crazies from a particular cult to be in possession of a dagger.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by rhino on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:44pm
dam alco.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 14th, 2021 at 10:13pm

rhino wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:44pm:
dam alco.

Another one bites the dust, typical poofs.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:22pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:29pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
The Sikhs should lay down their arms in Australia, we are all in this together so no breaking the rules.


One Law For All - All Laws For One!!

Take it or leave........ even our Blecks don't get special legal privileges like spearing one another in the tribal way...

It's lucky Muslims don't have exemption to shank-bearing privileges.


Phew - daily beheadings in Macquarie Street.... the mind boggles... got a construction site? Lend us your crane so we can throw some poofs off and hang them on it... WHAT?  Your woman wants to get a degree?  Shoot her in the head...

I heard yesterday the US was sending troops back into Afghanistan........ tow it out into the Indian Ocean and bomb it until it sinks with all on board... only way to be sure...

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:25pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:30pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
It's not luck, it's law, which you've read many times.

How can it be law when it only applies to one section of the community, i think the Shiks should be disarmed in the name of civility.



It is a fundamental requirement of Law (as opposed to law and law as exercised in courts, let alone regulation by government department) that Law must apply to all EQUALLY.  Unless it meets that basic/fundamental requirement - it cannot, by definition - be Law........

There are many basic tenets of Law that are abrogated daily in this poor convict colony birthed nation.

One Law For All - All Law for One!!!

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by Mr Bundy on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:51am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:22pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 8:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 7:29pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
The Sikhs should lay down their arms in Australia, we are all in this together so no breaking the rules.


One Law For All - All Laws For One!!

Take it or leave........ even our Blecks don't get special legal privileges like spearing one another in the tribal way...

It's lucky Muslims don't have exemption to shank-bearing privileges.


Phew - daily beheadings in Macquarie Street.... the mind boggles... got a construction site? Lend us your crane so we can throw some poofs off and hang them on it... WHAT?  Your woman wants to get a degree?  Shoot her in the head...

I heard yesterday the US was sending troops back into Afghanistan........ tow it out into the Indian Ocean and bomb it until it sinks with all on board... only way to be sure...

Afghanistan is gone, after 20yrs it took only 3 weeks to fall, millions of more Muslims on the march west, we don't want them here and we don't want kids carrying religious knives here either unless we can all carry knifes.

Title: Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Post by chimera on Aug 15th, 2021 at 7:31am

Johnnie wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:25pm:
A sub clause must be there somewhere enabling religious crazies from a particular cult to be in possession of a dagger.


You read the law on that.  Many groups of people can carry knives in public.  A tradie can, he could be crazy and kill with it. Sikhs are not known to be crazy or attack with knives.  A blunt kirpan is not a dagger.  Muslims don't claim a right to carry religious knives.

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