More active now than for some time.

Booby should apologise for filling a board with utter rubbish!

All his crap about “winters not getting milder” is the idiot not understanding that the number of cold events is falling, the number of hot events is increasing.

Who remembers the clown highlighting that in June the coldest weather for the year happened? Really, winter is cooler than summer and fall? Amazeballs! Totally uneducated garbage. Another choice example along the same line—weather this winter was the coldest since. . .wait for it. . .wait for it. . .the coldest since the previous winter! Brilliant! This balderdash is solemnly presented as if it showed anything other than winters are the coolest season. A real intellectual dwarf is Booby!

Actual evidence that the sun is in a Grand Solar Minimum? Never presented by the numbskull. Did you ever wonder why that was? It was because the sun was not in a GSM. Now this is clearer than ever.

Below is a photo of the sun last month, showing the highest number of sunspots in quite some time. It demolishes the tedious parade of cold weather reports that now passes for thoughtful ecological content in what once was the Environment board. The reports selected to bore us rigid are not collected systematically, are not standardised, are not plotted in some way, show nothing.

Weather data is fairly random but the trends, as I have tried to point out to Booby the Clown several times, are for fewer cold events, more hot events and that is due to AGW.

Here is a photo of the sun. Look at all the sunspots! If the sun were in a GSM there would be hardly any sunspots. The sun is becoming MORE active!

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The intellectual dwarf frequently asks me to apologise for the bloody weather! Incredible but true, just browse the intellectually arid wasteland that pretends to be an environmental board! Monk must apologise the clown lisps!

No. Weather is weather and the fact is that cold weather occurs LESS frequently now than mid last century. The numpty’s boring collection of some cold weather reports doesn’t show that because he doesn’t collect ALL weather reports. There is no real thought behind any of this.


Does anybody think that having a board full of pointless rubbish collected without any thought HELPS OzPol? It is a bloody big turnoff, second only to the racism, personal abuse etc that is rampant here. Time for a change.

Oh, let us put the present state of the sun in some context shall we? See—the sun REALLY is not in a GSM.

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To show the weather trends I post, yet again, the temperature distributions from the BoM/CSIRO State of the Climate report. Study the shapes of the distributions and how they change—the distributions are nicely annotated. Booby doesn’t understand this, clearly, he has been brainwashed to accept the spiel of a cheap grifter as gospel—Environment is basically Booby promoting the crap spouted by the grifter Dubyne.

Global temperature distributions are pretty much the same as the Australian ones, show the same trend of fewer cold events, more hot events.

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As to the globe cooling—no, it is not, of course!

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We can see temperatures rising another way:

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See how the above table of ALL records shows less cold events. Nobody ever said there wouldn’t be cold weather again, weather is too unpredictable for that! Arctic Amplification has weakened and disorganised the Jet Streams so polar air can move out of the Arctic/Antarctic bringing freezing weather to subarctic regions—but that is balanced by subarctic air moving into the Arctic, warming it. Weather at one place is just weather at one place and no more than that.

Note also the number of high minimums.

Monk doesn't need to apologise:

https://www.noaa.gov/news/its-official-july-2021-was-earths-hottest-month-on-record



It’s official:
July was Earth’s hottest month on record


August 13, 2021





July 2021 has earned the unenviable distinction as the world’s hottest month ever recorded, according to new global data released today by NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information.

“In this case, first place is the worst place to be,” said NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad, Ph.D. “July is typically the world’s warmest month of the year, but July 2021 outdid itself as the hottest July and month ever recorded. This new record adds to the disturbing and disruptive path that climate change has set for the globe.”

July 2021 by the numbers

    Around the globe: the combined land and ocean-surface temperature was 1.67 degrees F (0.93 of a degree C) above the 20th-century average of 60.4 degrees F (15.8 degrees C), making it the hottest July since records began 142 years ago. It was 0.02 of a degree F (0.01 of a degree C) higher than the previous record set in July 2016, which was then tied in 2019 and 2020.
    The Northern Hemisphere: the land-surface only temperature was the highest ever recorded for July, at an unprecedented 2.77 degrees F (1.54 degrees C) above average, surpassing the previous record set in 2012.
    Regional records: Asia had its hottest July on record, besting the previous record set in 2010; Europe had its second-hottest July on record—tying with July 2010 and trailing behind July 2018; and North America, South America, Africa and Oceania all had a top-10 warmest July.

Extreme heat and global climate change

With last month’s data, it remains very likely that 2021 will rank among the world’s 10-warmest years on record, according to NCEI’s Global Annual Temperature Rankings Outlook.

Extreme heat detailed in NOAA’s monthly NCEI reports is also a reflection of the long-term changes outlined in a major report released this week by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change offsite link. 

“Scientists from across the globe delivered the most up-to-date assessment of the ways in which the climate is changing,” Spinrad said in a statement. “It is a sobering IPCC report that finds that human influence is, unequivocally, causing climate change, and it confirms the impacts are widespread and rapidly intensifying.”

Piss off with the weather reports, idiot!

I hope a decent Mod will be appointed to what will again be the environment board. Do the decent thing and ask FD to appoint someone else there!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 6:00pm:

Piss off with the weather reports, idiot! I hope a decent Mod will be appointed to what will again be the environment board. Do the decent thing and ask FD to appoint someone else there!

Monk,
You only just got back from a long ban and already
you are abusing members here.
It seems that a dunce like you never learns.

But you are an idiot.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 6:21pm:

But you are an idiot.

Wow - how long will you last this time?

Your idiotic crap about a GSM and ice age—wrong, complete waste of space, stifling real environmental debate. Quit as Mod of what is the Dubyne MRB so FD can appoint someone with a clue about ecology!

What is it you crap on about? “440 pages of evidense of an ice age, must be the biggest pile of evidence in the world!” Nah, isolated, random, useless weather reports. YOU do not know what evidence is, no idea of experimental design, data gathering and processing, standardisation.

You are just a numpty who believes a cheap grifter and uses OzPol to spread the grifter’s bullshit.

There is a thing known as the sun-spot cycle.

It peaks approximately every 11 years. Ham and CB radio
operators have long known this, as it has definite effects
upon radio transmission and reception.

We are almost at the peak now.

So no - any talk of a 'Grand Solar Minimum' is, not
to put too fine a point on it, a load of rubbish.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Your idiotic crap about a GSM and ice age—wrong, complete waste of space, stifling real environmental debate. Quit as Mod of what is the Dubyne MRB so FD can appoint someone with a clue about ecology! What is it you crap on about? “440 pages of evidense of an ice age, must be the biggest pile of evidence in the world!” Nah, isolated, random, useless weather reports. YOU do not know what evidence is, no idea of experimental design, data gathering and processing, standardisation. You are just a numpty who believes a cheap grifter and uses OzPol to spread the grifter’s bullshit.

Nonsense.
I posted in the
Evidence for global warming thread
Reply #631 - Today at 5:30pm

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552800608/631#631

There are times when there are almost no sunspots for extended periods—the called Grand Solar Minimums where the sun emits a bit less UV. As to the 11 year cycle the peak is not till 2024 or 2025.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 6:28pm: Your idiotic crap about a GSM and ice age—wrong, complete waste of space, stifling real environmental debate. Quit as Mod of what is the Dubyne MRB so FD can appoint someone with a clue about ecology! What is it you crap on about? “440 pages of evidense of an ice age, must be the biggest pile of evidence in the world!” Nah, isolated, random, useless weather reports. YOU do not know what evidence is, no idea of experimental design, data gathering and processing, standardisation. You are just a numpty who believes a cheap grifter and uses OzPol to spread the grifter’s bullshit. Nonsense. I posted in the Evidence for global warming thread Reply #631 - Today at 5:30pm https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552800608/631#631

Is that EVIDENSE of global warming or did we just have a hot June? You don’t know. You know very little about anything!

Obviously, Booby really DOESN’T know what the hot July indicates or whether it is a freak warm event.

Booby is totally but totally useless. No education, substandard intelligence, for the sake of OzPol he should be replaced as Mod of Environment ASAP.

So, Booby, what are you going to do now? Your GSM = Ice Age schtick is shot down, dead.

Are you going to delete all 400+ pages of what you fondly, in your subnormal IQ way, dreamed was eviDENSE of an ice age? If you were honest you would. I don’t think you are honest tho.

Are you going to post more crap—it is the coldest day. . . . .since last winter—sort of junk? It won’t wash anymore, will it?

Or are you now just going to post reports of warm weather? That will be the same meaningless blancmange of pointless crap as the idiotic ice age, won’t it?

So what are you going to do? You won’t just resign as Mod of the Dubyne MRB, as I said you do not have the honesty.

What if you and I swap places? You would be able to take the meaningless ice age rubbish, the so–called eviDENSE of Global Cooling and the eviDENSE of Global Warming!

Take all that crap, make Critters and Gardens an (artificially inflated) BIG Board. You can then post sweet sweet kitten and puppy videos. You are good at that.

Think about it.

I see the cretin posted another cute cute cute kitten’n’puppy youtube.

Swap boards, cretin? Take the ice age crap and the “eviDENSE” of global cooling/global warming with you?

The ice age crap has been comprehensively debunked. Won’t fly. You do not have the mental agility and resources to switch your long-suffering board into a more productive direction.

So post videos of puppies and kittens AND ice age crap to your hearts’ content. With all the ice age etc nonsense Cats and Critters will be a huge board.

Looking at the cats n critters postings it seems it is failing.

The one with the most recent views is about apple trees - hardly a cat or a critter. ::)

lee, head for the psych ED NOW!

So, Booby, your years–long compilation of crap that does [not] prove we are entering an ice age has been shown to be just dross.

What can you now do? Not more crap about the ice age, the globe warming, the globe cooling.

I offer a swap of modships and you can take all your ice age crap to Critters and Gardens, making that a big board, maybe bigger than Environment minus ice age etc stuff. I will support you getting FD to move the two boards up and down based on post count.

Poor petal. Can't even defend his failings in cats n critters. ;D ;D ;D ;D

I do believe that we are on the latter stage of the grand solar minimum. It was to be over by next year.

Not a grand solar minimum and through it all the globe kept warming.

The Milankovitch Cycle started turning down 4000 years ago, should have led to cooling north of 65°N but instead the Arctic is the fastest warming place on the globe.

Over the life of this planet.
There have been several heating and cooling cycles
THIS IS KNOWN, BUT IGNORED.

These cycles are NOT MAN MADE and as tgere were no industrialised civilizations at the time, man cannot be blamed.

The cause of these heating and cooling cycles have been theorized, and guessed at, but an absolute reason has never been determined.

Now, as the earth orbits the sun, we go through summer and winter cycles.

What's to say, as we orbit the galactic central point, that this also has some effect on our planets heating and cooling cycles?

Agreed, we should stop polluting our planet.
It's stupid to shite in your own bed.
But the climate warriors are doing themselves no favours blaming everything on man.

We cannot simply stop using the resources we have.
We do not have the technology to go emission free at this time.
And pushing Australia into poverty and fiscal suicide is simply idiotic.
Especially when you consider that Australia contributes less than 2% of the world's pollution and the big polluters have no intention of changing their ways.

We are heading toward a very difficult life for no real reason.

We have known since 1856 that CO2, CH4 and water vapor are opaque to IR.

We can now observe the IR spectrum from the top of the atmosphere—see attachment. We can measure the intensity of insolation on the surface.

We also know that the Milankovitch Cycle has been trending down for 4-5000 years. The globe, especially north of 65°N, should be cooling but we find the Arctic is the fastest warming place on the globe.

CO2 is the driver of AGW.

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Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 12:00pm:

CO2 is the driver of AGW.

Then why hasn't the Antarctic warmed in the last 70 years? ::)

If it hasn’t warmed (it clearly has, rain is now falling there) why are the East and West Antarctic ice sheets shrinking?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 5:15pm:

If it hasn’t warmed (it clearly has, rain is now falling there) why are the East and West Antarctic ice sheets shrinking?

So you disagree with the peer-reviewed paper from Nature? Who knew you were a denier? ;D ;D ;D ;D

To recap -
""The Antarctic continent has not warmed in the last seven decades, despite a monotonic increase in the atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-020-00143-w

Rain is now falling?  Have you a direct line? ;D ;D ;D ;D

One paper is one paper. The ice sheets are melting.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 9:48pm:

Poor petal. Can't even defend his failings in cats n critters. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Monk is trying to steal posts away from my Environment MRB -
just ignore his nonsense.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 5:26pm:

One paper is one paper.

Which is infinitely more than the number of papers you cite to support your contention. ;)

But perhaps you don't understand the difference between SST and land temperature?

You don’t HAVE an environmental MRB. You have a Kitten’n’Puppies MRB.

Given you have banned me from your Kitten’n’Puppies MRB where would you suggest I post some of this stuff?

What are you going to do now your & Dubyne’s ice age crap is shown up to be utter bullshit?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 5:28pm:

You don’t HAVE an environmental MRB. You have a Kitten’n’Puppies MRB.

Ohh was that supposed to hurt or merely to deflect? ;D ;D ;D ;D

It is the truth, lee.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

It is the truth, lee.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  "You can't handle the truth." That's why you banned me. ;)

Nope, you were tedious in trying to rehash all the old arguments again. Critters and Gardens is not the board for that. You are driven, desperate to deflect, obfuscate and shut down discussion of AGW if you can’t deflect and obfuscate. This might be against Aussie’s rule, but you have a mental disease, lee. Fear, held for so long, cannot but affect the mind, especially as AGW just goes on warming the globe at a steady (so far) 0.2°C per decade.

You are driven, probably by fear because you know AGW is real, but that just makes you tedious, boring as batshit. Not in my MRB.

See psych help, lee.

poor petal. Even when challenged about the Antarctic can't provide a peer-reviewed paper. Such a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No interest in re-re-rehashing a stale argument just because you have a mental disease.

So, Bobby, what about swapping boards?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:14pm:

So, Bobby, what about swapping boards?

As you're usually not here -
you were away for 3 months I offer to
look after C&C for you whenever you're away -
I can handle 2 MRBs.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2021 at 6:14pm: So, Bobby, what about swapping boards? As you're usually not here - you were away for 3 months I offer to look after C&C for you whenever you're away - I can handle 2 MRBs.

No you can't.  Mod of an MRB gets only one MRB.

I see sense in what Monk proposes...why not, Bobby?


I reckon Cats etc is a natural fit for you.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2021 at 6:14pm: So, Bobby, what about swapping boards? As you're usually not here - you were away for 3 months I offer to look after C&C for you whenever you're away - I can handle 2 MRBs.

You can’t handle the MRB you have now. Not a single post on encvironment.

What I suggest is good: you move to Critters and Gardens, take the ice age etc etc posts with you, ask FD to move it up based on post count.

You can then post videos of puppies and kittens to your heart’s content. What is wrong with that?

Bobby, you don’t want to start with a small board and build it up.

That is why I say take the ice age etc stuff with you, voila! Big Board.

You obviously really like cute kitten and puppy videos, so move to Critters and Gardens and post away!

Aussie wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2021 at 6:50pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2021 at 6:14pm: So, Bobby, what about swapping boards? As you're usually not here - you were away for 3 months I offer to look after C&C for you whenever you're away - I can handle 2 MRBs. No you can't.  Mod of an MRB gets only one MRB. I see sense in what Monk proposes...why not, Bobby? I reckon Cats etc is a natural fit for you.

Aussie,
rubbish.

I don't like you allowing your MRB to be used as a pseudo Environment MRB to
try and undermine my MRB.

Monk is using you.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 9:18pm:

Bobby, you don’t want to start with a small board and build it up. That is why I say take the ice age etc stuff with you, voila! Big Board. You obviously really like cute kitten and puppy videos, so move to Critters and Gardens and post away!

Monk,
You'd never even heard of environment feedback loops till I told you.
You're a fool.

What makes you say that?

I did study Zoology to third year Uni level, think I heard of those long before you mentioned it.

Physics to year 2.

You haven’t posted anything ecological. Now the ice age stuff is finished.

What I suggest would let you post away about something you really like.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:50am:

Not a grand solar minimum and through it all the globe kept warming. The Milankovitch Cycle started turning down 4000 years ago, should have led to cooling north of 65°N but instead the Arctic is the fastest warming place on the globe.

Yeah, and when that is warming, the Antarctic is cooling. And so forth with the cycle that if one area is affected, the other side of the world picks up the slack.

Not really. Both the East and West Antarctic Ice Sheets are shrinking.

The only cooling and warming is in the seasonal cycle, winter in N Hemisphere and summer in the S Hemisphere.

Yep. And you might want to note that other parts of the Antarctic is expanding with the icemelt freezing onto the edges of the icesheet expanding for the next winter. And so on goes the cycle.

Solar minimums do not necessarily means cooler temperatures. Just less rain in places. More in others.

That AIS is shrinking. Some of the land ice ends up as sea ice for a while.

"High geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica inferred from aeromagnetic data"

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-021-00242-3
"Ice losses from Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica are currently responsible for roughly four percent of the global sea-level rise. This figure could increase, since virtually no another ice stream in the Antarctic is changing as dramatically as the massive Thwaites Glacier. Until recently, experts attributed these changes to climate change and the fact that the glacier rests on the seafloor in many places, and as such comes into contact with warm water masses. But there is also a third, and until nowone of the most difficult to constrain, influencing factors. In a new study, German and British researchers have shown that there is a conspicuously large amount of heat from Earth’s interior beneath the ice, which has likely affected the sliding behaviour of the ice masses for millions of years. This substantial geothermal heat flow, in turn, are due to the fact that the glacier lies in a tectonic trench, where the Earth’s crust is significantly thinner than it is e.g. in neighbouring East Antarctica. The new study was published today in the Nature online journal Communications Earth & Environment."

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/925529

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 11:55pm:

That AIS is shrinking. Some of the land ice ends up as sea ice for a while.

That "AIS"? Could you expand that abbreviation for those that do not have a reference point?

Antarctic Ice Sheet.

WAIS—West Antarctic Ice Sheet.

Lee leaped in with desperation:


Quote:

which has likely affected the sliding behaviour of the ice masses for millions of years.

Millions of years, not the last 50? So sad for Desperate lee.

Seek psych help lee.

Booby, if you want me to post environmental matters in the Dubyne MRB there is one step you need to take.

Do NOT blame me for your behavior, clown!

But I think I prefer to wait on doing that until there is a new Mod for what will again be Environment.

Since you have no science, are posting more cute kitten’n’puppy YouTubes etc why not seriously consider the suggestion I made ot you.

Critters and Gardens would not be a small board with the ice age etc etc stuff transferred to it. Otherwise what are you going to do? Post more reports of cold weather to pretend an ice age is coming? That schtick is over.

You probably do not have much info about the environment, ecology, evolution etc etc so trying to run the Dubyne MRB as an Environment board is not going to happen.

There is also the matter of the sewer. You can’t run two big boards/forums at the same time. Inevitably, one of them will suffer.

So why not consider my suggestion? An easier life, no pressure here, concentrate on running the sewer, try and make it a bit PA like.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 5:17pm:

Lee leaped in with desperation: Quote: which has likely affected the sliding behaviour of the ice masses for millions of years. Millions of years, not the last 50? So sad for Desperate lee. Seek psych help lee.

So sad that you deny Nature. I thought it was the warmunists bible. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Talk about Desperate!

I QUOTED part of the article you cited, you frantic fool!


Quote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-021-00242-3 "Ice losses from Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica are currently responsible for roughly four percent of the global sea-level rise. This figure could increase, since virtually no another ice stream in the Antarctic is changing as dramatically as the massive Thwaites Glacier. Until recently, experts attributed these changes to climate change and the fact that the glacier rests on the seafloor in many places, and as such comes into contact with warm water masses. But there is also a third, and until nowone of the most difficult to constrain, influencing factors. In a new study, German and British researchers have shown that there is a conspicuously large amount of heat from Earth’s interior beneath the ice, which has likely affected the sliding behaviour of the ice masses for millions of years. This substantial geothermal heat flow, in turn, are due to the fact that the glacier lies in a tectonic trench, where the Earth’s crust is significantly thinner than it is e.g. in neighbouring East Antarctica. The new study was published today in the Nature online journal Communications Earth & Environment."

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:25pm:

Talk about Desperate!

My error -


ALFRED WEGENER INSTITUTE, HELMHOLTZ CENTRE FOR POLAR AND MARINE RESEARCH

https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a/2021/thwaites-glacier-signi.jpg
Helicopter with magnetometerIMAGE: GEOPHYSICAL MEASUREMENTS WITH A MAGNETOMETER BEING TOWED WITH RV POLARSTERN’S BOARD HELICOPTER. view more CREDIT: ALFRED-WEGENER-INSTITUT / THOMAS RONGE

Also in Phys.org ;)

An observational study not your lovely models.

And lee desperately posts another article he hasn’t really read. Like, he didn’t even read the bloody abstract he himself cited and quoted.

Seek help, lee. I say this out of concern for your mental health which has never been good since I noticed your posts. Then again, how could it be? That AGW just keeps on warming the globe, doesn’t it?

You remind me a bit of King Cnut except you are forbidding AGW to stop warming the globe. Bit mad, that. Seek help desperate lee.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:04pm:

You remind me a bit of King Cnut except you are forbidding AGW to stop warming the globe. Bit mad, that.

Poor petal. Doesn't understand Cnut at all. He was demonstrating to his courtiers that he couldn't control everything at all.

"In the story, Canute demonstrates to his flattering courtiers that he has no control over the elements (the incoming tide), explaining that secular power is vain compared to the supreme power of God. The episode is frequently alluded to in contexts where the futility of "trying to stop the tide" of an inexorable event is pointed out, but usually misrepresenting Canute as believing he had supernatural powers, when Huntingdon's story in fact relates the opposite. "

Source wiki

But at least I admit my mistakes.You? Nah. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well, you cannot hold back the “tide” of AGW yet here you are trying to do so. You wonder why I think you need psychicatric help???

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:29pm:

Well, you cannot hold back the “tide” of AGW yet here you are trying to do so.

You still trying to debunk the null hypothesis? ;D ;D ;D ;D

And Bobby just posted another cute ckitten’n’puppy YouTube.

I remind you of my suggestion, Bobby, and if you could be honest you would have to admit my suggestion is a good one.

I think at some time FD might just act unilaterally to boost the quality and SEO ranking of OzPol. So think on my suggestion and don’t take too long.

Most of your attention and activity has to be the sewer. I doubt you can make it PA again, but maybe by opening the place a bit you might get more members there.

Poor petal. Did you look at my post about IPCC's flawed attribution on CO2? It's on the environment thread. ;)

Seek help lee. AGW is just going to keep warming the globe.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 8:08pm:

Seek help lee. AGW is just going to keep warming the globe.

So sayeth the models. Bow down before the models. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee likes to denigrate models. They are rather skinny bitches errrr the only way some things can be described, of course.

But the warming is measured by satellite and terrestrial observations. Data, not models.

Notice that desperate lee, psychotic lee, thinks he can deny the warming with a few sneers about models.

Anyone with more than 2-3 decades of life has experience of AGW:

1. As a kid in 1950s Holland I remember (my second oldest memory) one summer day asking my mother if I could take my overcoat off. Now Holland has recorded over 40°C!

2. In Australia 100°F (38°C) used to be thought as hot. Adelaide experienced 46°C a couple summers ago.

Most of us here can produce similar experiences. Globe is warming. Insanity to try to deny it. Clearly, lee is not sane.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

But the warming is measured by satellite and terrestrial observations. Data, not models.

Where do they say any warming will continue? ;D ;D ;D


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

Anyone with more than 2-3 decades of life has experience of AGW:

Wow you can differentiate 1C? ;D ;D ;D ;D


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

1. As a kid in 1950s Holland I remember (my second oldest memory) one summer day asking my mother if I could take my overcoat off. Now Holland has recorded over 40°C!

"Amsterdam, NL      All Time Record High      94 °C      August 04, 1990"

https://www.plantmaps.com/interactive-netherlands-record-high-and-low-temperature-map.php

Wow that is impressive. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

2. In Australia 100°F (38°C) used to be thought as hot. Adelaide experienced 46°C a couple summers ago.

Yeah you never heard of UHI. ;)

But
"ADELAIDE, Tuesday, - To-day's
maximum temperature of 116.9 at 3.15
p.m. was Adelaide's highest since re-
cords were first kept 81 years ago. To-
day was the fifth consecutive century,
and last night was the second hottest
night known."

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68533670


That's 47.7C. In 1939 too. Gee AGW actually goes back in time. ;)


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

Most of us here can produce similar experiences. Globe is warming.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Poor petal can't differentiate between weather and climate. ;)

Poor old desperate lee can remember similar experiences with a warming world but since desperate lee is not really sane he will repress those experiences.

Poor sad old desperate, no longer really sane lee, should really seek help.

He thinks “Amsterdam 1990 94°F” refutes the warming since the 1950s when children wore overcoats outside in summer! But over 40°C was experienced in Holland a couple summers ago. Note to the nutcase: there is more to Holland than Amsterdam.

Using the “Amsterdam 1990 94°F” data point we can see Dutch summers have gotten hotter and hotter since the 1950s. Very kind of lee to provide that data point.

Temperatures going up and up over decades is not weather, psychotic lee.

Insanity is not nice to see. Seek help lee! SOON!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 9:43pm:

He thinks “Amsterdam 1990 94°F” refutes the warming since the 1950s when children wore overcoats outside in summer!

Poor petal. now not only is he in denial he hast lost the ability to comprehend. the temperature quoted was 94 °C 
;)

More -

"The observed climate variations in the 20th century can be explained by a combination of natural and human causes. There are three distinct natural causes of climate variations: volcanic eruptions, variations in solar activity and El Niño (5):

    Strong volcanic eruptions, such as those of Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines in 1991, expel enormous quantities of dust high into the air. This dust remains in the atmosphere for several years and reflects sunlight back into space. As a result, the Earth’s surface becomes cooler.
    The second natural factor, solar activity, is not constant and, consequently, the quantity of energy which reaches the Earth from the Sun varies slightly over time. This will in turn affect the temperature on Earth.
    The third natural factor is El Niño. The temperature of the seawater in an area to the west of Peru is abnormally high once every 3–7 years, which causes changes in the ocean circulation patterns. This change eventually leads to abnormal global weather patterns and affects the average global temperature.

[url]From 1950 until the mid-1990s these three natural factors had a net cooling effect on the climate.[/url] Nevertheless, the average global temperature has increased considerably since the 1980s, mainly due to the emission of greenhouse gases (5).

https://www.climatechangepost.com/netherlands/climate-change/

Oooh naturally cooling in the Netherlands. How bizarre that you didn't mention that. ;)

Cooling factors yet the globe warmed. So AGW is responsible for over 100% of observed warming. 1°C since 1980 despite the sun going a tad quiet in the 1980s. Volcanoes and El Nino and La Nina have strictly temporary effects on climate.

If what you posted is supposed to refute the warming in Netherland it is wide off the mark. That you even attempt to refute that warming is a pointer to your mental ill health. Seek help lee.

Meantime, Bobby has posted four cute kitten’n’puppy videos and NOTHING on the subject of his MRB. Bobby has not in fact posted anything on the subject of his board EVER.

He would be happier as Mod of Critters and Gardens, I am sure. What about it. Bobby?

To summarise:

1. Below is a photo of the sun last month, showing the highest number of sunspots in quite some time. It demolishes the tedious parade of cold weather reports that now passes for thoughtful ecological content in what once was the Environment board. The reports selected to bore us rigid are not collected systematically, are not standardised, are not plotted in some way, show nothing.

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2. The globe is not cooling, it is warming at the rate of 0.2°C per decade. I post the RSS graph showing this:

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3. The warming is seen in fewer cold events and more heat events. Below are the BoM/CSIRO charts showing this and the global distributions show the same hot shift. Any number of cold weather reports as fill what SHOULD be the Environment Board just show that cold weather still happens. If a complete set of weather reports had been collected they would show the same thing as the BoM/CSIRO charts.

Everything Bobby has posted in the Dubyne MRB is meaningless.

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3. cont’d

The winters getting milder can also be seen from NOAA publications, see below:

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There is no way that an ice age is in our future.

The whole cult (for cult it is) believing in an ice age due to a GSM arose because the Maunder Minimum happened in what was (incorrectly) called the Little Ice Age. The cult, including Bobby, translated that to mean the Maunder CAUSED the LIA. This is wrong.

The Maunder is taken to have occurred 1650–1725. The Little Ice Age is generally taken to have occurred 1350–1850.

Another fact has been twisted by the cult: it is thought That violent volcanic eruptions may have helped trigger the LIA. The cult has twisted that to mean that a GSM, which is the sun emitting a bit less UV, CAUSES earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

The violent 1531 Lisbon earthquake did take place in the LIA but since this lasted 500 years no relation between eathquakes and the LIA is demonstrated. As we know earthquakes happen where one tectonic plate is sliding under an adjacent plate. Nought to do with a GSM or LIA.

Bobby has bored us rigid with his ice age crap. I know of one poor soul who spends his days in Twitter posting weather reports and earthquake and volcanic activity “because of the GSM.” This behavior leads to madness IMHO.

I repeat my offer to Bobby:

We swap boards and you can move all the ice age and warming and cooling threads with you. Critters and Gardens will then be a big board. Then you can post cute kitten’n’puppy videos all day every day. No pressure, you can spend more time running the “real” PA.

How about it?

When you move to the Critters and Gardens board you will have many more members visiting and posting then you do in the Dubyne MRB with its tedious stuff about an unlikely ice age and demented posts from fesperate lee. The kitten' 'puppy  videos are the only ones you get a response to.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 5:42am:

Cooling factors yet the globe warmed. So AGW is responsible for over 100% of observed warming.

So up until 1990's the Netherlands struggled mightily against CO2 for 40 years but ultimately lost? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Please identify how CO2 can cause MORE THAN 100% of AGW. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 5:42am:

If what you posted is supposed to refute the warming in Netherland it is wide off the mark.

You can't even lie straight.

BTW - Did you know the Netherlands homogenises temperatures to make them real? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"Homogenization of daily temperature data of the
five principal stations in the Netherlands (version 1.0)"

https://cdn.knmi.nl/system/downloads/files/000/000/033/original/TR_homogeniseren_dag.pdf                                     

But apparently they are keeping the originals -

"Recovery and disclosure of historical meteorological observations (Hisklim)"

https://www.knmi.nl/kennis-en-datacentrum/achtergrond/recovery-and-disclosure-of-historical-meteorological-observations-hisklim

Which leads to this page -

"Pagina niet gevonden (404)"

https://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie.

OOPS

Such a dilberry

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 7:30am:

3. The warming is seen in fewer cold events and more heat events. Below are the BoM/CSIRO charts showing this and the global distributions show the same hot shift

BoM ACORN SAT? really? Why does the pretty picture stop at 2015?  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 7:33am:

The winters getting milder can also be seen from NOAA publications, see below:

Is that the NOAA that can give temperature anomalies to 1/100th of a degree C all the way back to 1880? ;D ;D ;D ;D

You really do try hard though. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 7:50am:

There is no way that an ice age is in our future.

Madame Zara is that you? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/276280/fortune-teller.png

Desperate lee pleaded:


Quote:

Please identify how CO2 can cause MORE THAN 100% of AGW

Shows you have no math, no science just a desperate fear of AGW, a fear that has affected your mind.

Let us use an analogy: a speedboat is moving at a 100 knots against a 20 knot current. The motor has to overcome the current then power the boat to 100knots. The motor therefor is doing more than powering the boat at 100 knots. Simple concept unless your brain is unhinged with fear..

We know the Milankovitch Cycle is turning down—a simple matter of observation of the orbit and inclination of the planet. This means the area north of 65°N should be cooling, it is warming. AGW warms to match the cooling then warms the Arctic Circle, just like the speedboat in my analogy needs to overcome the 20knot current then power the boat to 100knots.

This is the last response I will make to your panic. Seek help lee SOON!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 12:12pm:

When you move to the Critters and Gardens board you will have many more members visiting and posting then you do in the Dubyne MRB with its tedious stuff about an unlikely ice age and demented posts from desperate lee. The kitten'n'puppy  videos are the only ones you get a response to.

Bobby?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 1:56pm:

Shows you have no math, no science just a desperate fear of AGW, a fear that has affected your mind. Let us use an analogy: a speedboat is moving at a 100 knots against a 20 knot current.

Poor petal. Simple analogies are exactly that simple for a simpleton.

Identify  - What is climate version of the 20 knot current pushing against the whole? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Don't forget balance is a human construct therefore imbalance is also. ;)

BTW - Did you notice the fatal flaw of RSS? It doesn't cover the poles. 70S to 82.5N ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What about this, Bobby?

We ask FD to rename Environment to Cats and Critters and to rename my board to Environment. You get to keep the big board you need to prop up your ego, I can start posting about environmental matters.

You have more time to be the Exhalted[sic] Leader of what was once PA. Make it more PA–like Bobby, build the membership.

You keep the big board but post the cute kitten’n’puppy videos you like. No need to bore the pants off of everyone here with cold weather reports especially now it is clear there is no GSM, no ice age. More people will post in your board and it will be nice.

A real get-out-of-jail-card for you.

What you reckon, Bobby?