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Message started by Yadda on Aug 19th, 2021 at 7:42pm

Title: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Yadda on Aug 19th, 2021 at 7:42pm

Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor refused to 'believe' that Taliban, were followers of ISLAM !!!

I AM NOT KIDDING !!!   read on.....



In his estimation, the Taliban, were too evil, to be followers of ISLAM !

ISLAM preaches “unity, justice and peace”,   ...don't ya know !



He revealed that....


Quote:

"....he wrestles with the fact that the Taliban was motivated, and was able to motivate Afghans, on the basis of Islamic teachings.
He doesn’t like this idea, as he thinks that it makes Islam, which, he says, preaches “unity, justice and peace” look bad,...."
[cited below]


People like Carter Malkasian, imo, are one of the primary reasons why   all   Western nations are today, 'circling the drain hole' of human history.

That, and our perverse, Glory Hole, poll fixated, political leaders.


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IMAGE.....


Senior advisor to Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff
shocked to discover that the Taliban is motivated by ISLAMIC law and ISLAMIC religious precepts



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Quote:

Senior advisor to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shocked to discover Taliban motivated by Islam

Aug 18, 2021
By Robert Spencer                        19 Comments

Carter Malkasian is “the author of The American War in Afghanistan: A History.

He served as a civilian advisor in Iraq and Afghanistan and was the senior advisor to General Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, from 2015 to 2019.”

In this long piece for Politico from early July, he wrestles with the fact that the Taliban was motivated, and was able to motivate Afghans, on the basis of Islamic teachings.


He doesn’t like this idea,       as he thinks that it makes Islam, which, he says, preaches “unity, justice and peace” look bad,


but he finds it difficult to escape the conclusion that the Taliban was and is popular among Afghans because of their loyalty to Islam.......



https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/08/senior-advisor-to-chairman-of-the-joint-chiefs-of-staff-shocked-to-discover-taliban-motivated-by-islam

Duh.

Really ?



This is called, WILFUL IGNORANCE.

That term is a technical nomenclature, for a state of 'intellectual being'.

It is a state of intellectual being which commonly resides within the halls of higher learning,
but which has never inspired in it, any need to be acknowledged nor examined,
by those within those institutions of higher learning in the West [aka 'a university'].

We all seek mental serenity,    ...and everyone acknowledges, that 'Ignorance is bliss.'

e.g.
If a moslem tells a learned, Western intellectual, that 'ISLAM means peace, and ISLAM seeks peace.',
then what good reason is there, for that intellectual to doubt, what that moslem has told him !!

/sarc off


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Quote:

“Peace and love are at the center of our religion, as evidenced by scripture and history,...”

- Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah
CITED... https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/uae-forum-promotes-dubious-islamic-peace



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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....




Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by chimera on Aug 19th, 2021 at 8:06pm
? ?
"The American War in Afghanistan: A History (2021) by Carter Malkasian, is a comprehensive history of the war, arguing that one of the primary reasons for the Taliban's success was their deep connection to the religious and social identity of Afghanistan,"

HISTORY
is best written in HUGE letters

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 20th, 2021 at 8:28am
History seems best written with a poorly formatted post telling people o google such and such

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Frank on Aug 20th, 2021 at 8:48am
This guy had no illusions - he served there.

https://youtu.be/TganRev7yZg

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by issuevoter on Aug 20th, 2021 at 2:14pm
The American and allied withdrawal has been planned for some time. Donald Trump announced he had made one of his famous deals with the Taliban. But it all starts with George W. Bush and his delusion of nation building. It may have sounded good to dunderheads as 911 gave him latitude with the voters, but anyone with half a brain could see the Afghans were not going to fight the Taliban. The tradition in that country is to switch sides to whom so over happened to be winning. Anyway, now they can get back to beating women, rooting little boys and facing Mecca.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:33pm
Anyone with half a brain could see that the Afghanis were not going to fight the Taliban. But anyone with a fully developed and functional brain could infer the plausibility of fighting the Taliban and keeping the idea of a restored nation or a new nation in progress.

38 million Afghanis. You could assume that they could have 1 million Afghani soldiers adequately trained and equipped to go against the Taliban. Twenty years is a long time to organise a national army. Perhaps that is what the Taliban were doing in Pakistan all this time.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by chimera on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:54pm
The US is echoed by Vice President Scomo who said on Monday
".. our thanks, are always to Australians who serve...great commitment to their country and the values that Australia represents, which is freedom."

Sadly, the Afghan campaign was not for the WH or Pork Barrel Canberra. Afghanistan looks a bit like "america" or "australia" but the istan part gives it away. They don't speak yank or oz.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Bobby. on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:25pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:33pm:
Anyone with half a brain could see that the Afghanis were not going to fight the Taliban. But anyone with a fully developed and functional brain could infer the plausibility of fighting the Taliban and keeping the idea of a restored nation or a new nation in progress.

38 million Afghanis. You could assume that they could have 1 million Afghani soldiers adequately trained and equipped to go against the Taliban. Twenty years is a long time to organise a national army. Perhaps that is what the Taliban were doing in Pakistan all this time.



Pakistan caused this.
They played the Yanks for suckers.
They supported the Taliban the whole time - 20 years -
and even had Osama hidden away in a military town.

The Yanks should have closed off the border to
Pakistan immediately in 2001.
Then at least that prick Osama wouldn't have got away.
Obama even gave his Muslim Pakistan friends $billions in aid.


Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:33pm:
Anyone with half a brain could see that the Afghanis were not going to fight the Taliban. But anyone with a fully developed and functional brain could infer the plausibility of fighting the Taliban and keeping the idea of a restored nation or a new nation in progress.

38 million Afghanis. You could assume that they could have 1 million Afghani soldiers adequately trained and equipped to go against the Taliban. Twenty years is a long time to organise a national army. Perhaps that is what the Taliban were doing in Pakistan all this time.



Pakistan caused this.
They played the Yanks for suckers.
They supported the Taliban the whole time - 20 years -
and even had Osama hidden away in a military town.

The Yanks should have closed off the border to
Pakistan immediately in 2001.
Then at least that prick Osama wouldn't have got away.
Obama even gave his Muslim Pakistan friends $billions in aid.


Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian....The wars in the ME are about oil not terrorism!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Bobby. on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:34pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:33pm:
Anyone with half a brain could see that the Afghanis were not going to fight the Taliban. But anyone with a fully developed and functional brain could infer the plausibility of fighting the Taliban and keeping the idea of a restored nation or a new nation in progress.

38 million Afghanis. You could assume that they could have 1 million Afghani soldiers adequately trained and equipped to go against the Taliban. Twenty years is a long time to organise a national army. Perhaps that is what the Taliban were doing in Pakistan all this time.



Pakistan caused this.
They played the Yanks for suckers.
They supported the Taliban the whole time - 20 years -
and even had Osama hidden away in a military town.

The Yanks should have closed off the border to
Pakistan immediately in 2001.
Then at least that prick Osama wouldn't have got away.
Obama even gave his Muslim Pakistan friends $billions in aid.


Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian....The wars in the ME are about oil not terrorism!!!

::) ::) ::)



But: Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan were funding and training terrorists.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by chimera on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:39pm
Afghanistan has $3 trillion oil reserves which is terrifying. A Chinese man with a plan has booked the first Air China flight into Talibanistan, for peace of brotherhood and lotsa money.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 20th, 2021 at 9:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:34pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:33pm:
Anyone with half a brain could see that the Afghanis were not going to fight the Taliban. But anyone with a fully developed and functional brain could infer the plausibility of fighting the Taliban and keeping the idea of a restored nation or a new nation in progress.

38 million Afghanis. You could assume that they could have 1 million Afghani soldiers adequately trained and equipped to go against the Taliban. Twenty years is a long time to organise a national army. Perhaps that is what the Taliban were doing in Pakistan all this time.



Pakistan caused this.
They played the Yanks for suckers.
They supported the Taliban the whole time - 20 years -
and even had Osama hidden away in a military town.

The Yanks should have closed off the border to
Pakistan immediately in 2001.
Then at least that prick Osama wouldn't have got away.
Obama even gave his Muslim Pakistan friends $billions in aid.


Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian....The wars in the ME are about oil not terrorism!!!

::) ::) ::)



But: Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan were funding and training terrorists.


I do not remember who it was that proposed that Osama bin Laden decided to use a tactic of provoking the Americans with "reap what you sow" heckles from his cave in Kandahar. However, it seemed to be a plausible strategy. The Americans could be bogged down in Afghanistan for decades, whilst the Saudis, Iranians, and Pakistanis could position themselves with their natural resources to sell to the world at an inflated price. The Americans concerning themselves with resources to fight a war to ensure that they can still get resources from neighbouring regions. GW Bush ensuring that his oil companies can take over Iraqi oil fields and companies, to help fund his retirement. And the general surrounding of disputed terrorities and ambiguous governments by allied forces so that we can have regime changes at short notice.

Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan would have their own kind of training camps. But, why would they not? Lotta white people comin' back to take out dey holy landz.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Frank on Aug 21st, 2021 at 10:25am

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:33pm:
Anyone with half a brain could see that the Afghanis were not going to fight the Taliban. But anyone with a fully developed and functional brain could infer the plausibility of fighting the Taliban and keeping the idea of a restored nation or a new nation in progress.

38 million Afghanis. You could assume that they could have 1 million Afghani soldiers adequately trained and equipped to go against the Taliban. Twenty years is a long time to organise a national army. Perhaps that is what the Taliban were doing in Pakistan all this time.



Pakistan caused this.
They played the Yanks for suckers.
They supported the Taliban the whole time - 20 years -
and even had Osama hidden away in a military town.

The Yanks should have closed off the border to
Pakistan immediately in 2001.
Then at least that prick Osama wouldn't have got away.
Obama even gave his Muslim Pakistan friends $billions in aid.


Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian....The wars in the ME are about oil not terrorism!!!

::) ::) ::)



So why not just buy the oil on the open market? Why have a war over something when you can just buy it?
And, needless to say other ghan to you, there is no oil in Talibistan.



Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by chimera on Aug 21st, 2021 at 10:30am
Afghanistan has 1.8 billion barrels of oil between Balkh and Jawzjan Province .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan

By 2050, the US expects to import more than 80 percent of its petroleum from this region and much of that oil would be extracted from beneath the deserts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The September 11 attack provided the Cheney-Bush team with the opportunity to use the US military to pave the way for Big Oil’s long-sought Afghan oil route.
https://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/magazine/entry/afghanistan_its_about_oil/

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Frank on Aug 21st, 2021 at 12:27pm
American priorities in Afghanistan - July 2021

https://mobile.twitter.com/USEmbassyKabul/status/1400060130243362816

Ludicrously woke to the lat, as it gets done up the Khyber by a bunch of gruesome Jihadi goatherds in sandals.


Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Frank on Aug 21st, 2021 at 6:58pm
https://youtu.be/at1pDfdD2ds




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OmWkozn_iQ


Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Frank on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 2:14pm
As Robert Gates, former defence secretary in the Obama administration, said in his 2014 book, Biden has ‘been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades’.
Biden was the ONLY  the only senior person in the Obama administration to argue against the pursuit and execution of Osama bin Laden - which WAS the original mission in 2001.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 11:38pm

chimera wrote on Aug 21st, 2021 at 10:30am:
Afghanistan has 1.8 billion barrels of oil between Balkh and Jawzjan Province .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan

By 2050, the US expects to import more than 80 percent of its petroleum from this region and much of that oil would be extracted from beneath the deserts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The September 11 attack provided the Cheney-Bush team with the opportunity to use the US military to pave the way for Big Oil’s long-sought Afghan oil route.
https://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/magazine/entry/afghanistan_its_about_oil/


By 2050, the United States might have to rely on Australian exports of oil to be able to keep up with demand. But I can see Afghani remnants of the Taliban needing to rely on massive exports of oil at a relatively low price to keep alive.

We will likely not be needing oil to go towards fueling our vehicles by 2050.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by chimera on Aug 24th, 2021 at 8:16am
China may need it for plastics. They have some interest in south China sea.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 24th, 2021 at 4:17pm
China might not have many people left, if they are still obsessed with plastics by the year 2050.

Title: Re: Afghanistan - U.S. military advisor didn't believe
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2021 at 4:10pm
"Always abandon your most strategic airbase right before an evacuation.”

- Sun Tzu, The Art Of War  (Biden translation)



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