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Title: Race and Gender Post by The Credible Poster on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:28pm
I contend that ideas of race and gender are, respectively racist and sexist. More than that, it is deeply unethical and serves no purpose in today's society. I see no reason for individuals to identify as anything other than human and subsequently worthy of all the rights and duties entailed.
Where there are 'perceived' differences, ethical philosophy has responded with equitable approaches. Sadly though, too many ignore equity and the right to equal consideration of interests. This lack of philosophical empathy for the 'other' is what is driving so much social unrest and conflict. Take for example sport and gender: Equal consideration allows us to appreciate the significant biological differences between the two archetypal genders. Those differences however, must not impinge upon a person's right to play sport. The solution then is to have three groups... male, female and mixed. In this way, people can compete fairly against each other. Those who do not identify with their birth gender move to the mixed teams. Race is an absurd term which has no regard for a person's ethnicity which does matter. We cannot compare the Saami people with other white folks, just because they are white, nor can we compare the Arrernte people with other black folks just because they are black. Applying this to education and the need to give equal consideration to all, it is most reasonable to claim that those public schools performing poorly receive more funding than those who are performing well. Skin color must not factor into this equation! There are exceptions that pertain to tribal peoples, such as the Saami and Arrernte previously mentioned which are beyond the scope of this discussion but never beyond the scope of individual rights, duties and equal consideration. So thanks for reading and I hope to hear your take on this. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Valkie on Aug 20th, 2021 at 5:25pm
I oppose that oversimplified approach to wokeness.
There are men and women, male and female. These are constants. The idea that any person can be other than one or the other is nothing more than a mental illness. There are strengths and weaknesses in both. And while intellectually equal, physically they can never be. Both also think differently, neither superior, simply differently which also has positives and negatives. But as a couple, a male and a female can be stronger and more capable as a pair than as the sum of their individual parts. Race, is also a contentious issue. Every race is different, this is fact. What some find repulsive, others find attractive. What some take offence at, others laugh at. Again we are different, nether better or worse ( in its specific culture) But when two totally incompattable races mix, there will always be conflict. Some cultures can never accept that they do not belong and demand that the other culture must change to suit their culture. This is wrong. Every culture has its positives and negatives. And while some are more accepting of others, some refuse to change even when that change is badly needed. These latter cultures should go elsewhere as they are of no benifits to either culture. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Bertie on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 5:15pm Nom de Plume wrote on Aug 20th, 2021 at 3:28pm:
This is simplifying differences out of existence. Absurd. Silly. Sex differences are real, natural and obvious. Having equal rights in law doesn't change that fact of difference. Race is is more of a spectrum than a binary either/or like sex. But the Saami have more in common with other Finns and Scandinavians and Europeans than with the Arrernte or with other Australian Aborigines. To say that there are no recognisable differences such as sex and race and that we do not, all of us, apply this sort of recognised difference in every day is silly. These differences - sex, race, age, demeanour, bearing, clothes, fatness, appearance etc, etc - are all meaning-bearing aspects of every person and we all perceive and read these meaning. We cannot help but read these meanings -"first impressions count. They are subject to ongoing revision and reinterpretation as more becomes known about another person - don't judge a book by its cover. But the essential point remains - we read the features presented by another person all the time and their race, sex, age, manner etc are all part of the meaning. Let's see if you think race and sex are irrelevant in this news item: Three men sought by police in Birmingham Gay Village attack probe |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Brian Ross on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 5:56pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. The transvestite Soren reveals his real identity. "Race" is a social construct. It has no reality in genetics. It has no bearing on social behaviour. You are peddling your stock-standard Racist response again. We are all members of the only "race" that exists - the human one. It is what allows Saami and Indigenous Australians to interbreed. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Bertie on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 6:02pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 5:56pm:
And you perceive no meaning when you look at another person? You do not read the myriad meaning-bearing signs - you just look at there genetic code? Really? |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Brian Ross on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm Bertie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 6:02pm:
It is all an intelligent person does. You appear to react to superficial differences such as skin colour, etc. I suppose being a transvestite allows you to dress as a woman and therefore pass as one but deep down, you're still a man. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Gnads on Aug 26th, 2021 at 7:01pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm:
And you're still a dipshyte PC SJW woke wanker |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Brian Ross on Aug 26th, 2021 at 9:56pm Gnads wrote on Aug 26th, 2021 at 7:01pm:
Seems the truth hurts you. I am so sorry for your condition. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Gnads on Sep 12th, 2021 at 6:31am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 5:56pm:
You're a social construct .... a gerrybuilt one. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2021 at 10:07am Blistering barnacles! Schools burn Tintin books in ‘racism’ storm A ceremonial book burning that included tales of Tintin and Asterix by a school board in the name of indigenous reconciliation has been condemned by political leaders. The “flame purification” ceremony by Providence Catholic School Board involved 30 primary and secondary schools in the Canadian province of Ontario. About 4700 books were removed from library shelves, but 30 were burnt for “educational purposes”. Among those removed were Tintin in America, Asterix and the Indians and other books containing cultural appropriation and outmoded history. The book burning was held in 2019 but reported this week by Radio Canada and made it into a televised leaders’ debate in advance of this month’s election. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said: “I would never agree to the burning of books.” However, he said that it was not up to non-indigenous people “to tell indigenous people how they should feel or act to advance reconciliation”. Tintin in America was removed for its “negative portrayal of indigenous peoples” and Asterix was withdrawn because of the sexualisation of the indigenous woman in love with Obelix. A spokeswoman for the school board said: “We sincerely regret the negative impact of this initiative intended as a gesture of reconciliation.” The Times So this means that 1 it's ok to burn books if you sincerely feel it's the right thing for your emotional well-being. Emotional Correctness uber alles, after all. 2 indiginous people shouldn't tall indiginous people how they should feel or act about race relations either 3 burning ingineous symbols is merely regrettable if the stated intention is to emphasise unity and the repudiation of racial an other differences 4 white people can act like this, BLM, etc in the face of perceived racial slights like 'white supremacy, privilege, guilt-tripping' etc. 5 there is NO shared cultural, civilisational norm that unites people, racial identity trumps all, like class used to. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Setanta on Sep 12th, 2021 at 5:33pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm:
Seems you are transphobic, how un-PC of you, bigot. You should see what can happen if you tell trannies they're not women or tell them women have pussies. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Neferti on Sep 12th, 2021 at 6:01pm
Brian wears socks with his sandals!
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Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:23am
Mysteriously, this seems to happen when they are visiting their usual fine dining venues......
https://mobile.twitter.com/BaldyDavitt/status/1435124081800667136 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:03am Siyakaka Feminism: African Anality and the Politics of Deviance in FAKA's Performance Art Praxis Jordache A. Ellapen Feminist Studies Vol. 47, No. 1, BLACK FEMINIST THOUGHT (2021), pp. 114-146 (33 pages) Published By: Feminist Studies, Inc. Feminist Studies https://doi.org/10.15767/feministstudies.47.1.0114 https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.15767/feministstudies.47.1.0114 Cite this Item Read and download Log in through your school or library Purchase article $18.00 - Download now and later https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.15767/feministstudies.47.issue-1?refreqid=excelsior%3A422a0670e7530f2208be7ae18f630135 As Dubya said, 'is our children learning?" |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 29th, 2021 at 1:30pm Neferti wrote on Sep 12th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
Helps keeps the leeches off. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Setanta on Nov 1st, 2021 at 9:35pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfk
Who belongs here? |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by The Heartless Felon on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:31am
Race and Gender?
Melbourne Cup. Mare. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:23pm
America's future has arrived at Hooters
Unseen that! |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Valkie on Nov 4th, 2021 at 6:42am Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:23pm:
That picture is how america is planning to combat obesity. You go to Hooters and throw up your meal.....simples |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:13am
CIA Replaces Waterboarding With 12-Hour Lectures On Intersectional Feminism
WASHINGTON, D.C.—According to anonymous sources, the CIA has replaced enhanced interrogation techniques such as waterboarding with something even more torturous and effective: 12-hour academic lectures on intersectional feminism. "Waterboarding has been shown to be very effective," said the anonymous source. "But that's been replaced now. Now we just pop in a tape of Robin DiAngelo, Stacey Abrams, or Joy Behar. Sometimes we'll really ramp things up and make them watch Coca-Cola's diversity training on a 12-hour loop." Terror suspects will be subjected to lengthy lectures about cis-male privilege, heteronormative patriarchy, and microaggressive mansplaining. Sources say these lectures are 1,282% more effective than regular old waterboarding. Critics have criticized the new interrogation method, saying that such cruel torture should be limited only to American universities. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:43am Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:13am:
;D ;D The C.I.A is Gay (too long hidden behind closed door closets) |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm
Race AND Gender?
European Woman 😎 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:27pm Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:13am:
The Horror! The Horror!! This will end up in Den Hague! |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Mar 27th, 2022 at 6:52am
In Scotland, reality is stranger than (bad) fiction.
You couldn't have made this up even 10 years ago: the CEO of the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre - – a role advertised as reserved for a woman only candidate - is a bloke who wants you to treat her as a lady. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7133029/trans-mridul-wadhwa-edinburgh-rape-crisis-snp/ |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Ayn Marx on Mar 27th, 2022 at 9:27am Neferti wrote on Sep 12th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
If you soak them in insecticide it helps keep the leeches off. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Apr 26th, 2022 at 3:33pm
In Shakespeare’s time an excuse for bad behavior might be astrological: we lie or cheat or pander not because of our own weaknesses but because of an external celestial influence beyond our control. The worm of our infirmity is not in us but elsewhere, hence we are not truly, not fully, guilty of our sins. Indeed, with a little ingenuity, we can argue that our bad behavior, being instigated by something outside ourselves, makes us victims, hence deserving of pity and even, indeed, celebration.
Today, of course, we don’t find excuses for depravity in the stars but in our upbringing, our bank account, our sex, our skin color. I am habitually late for work, but it is because I grew up poor. I take drugs, but it is because I am oppressed. I burned down a police station/shot a cop/looted a store, but it was because of “systemic racism.” Or maybe it is because of “the patriarchy.” Or “heteronormativity.” Or “transphobia.” The disease is deep. Just how deep is on view in some of Dr. Khilanani’s more piquant observations. To wit: "This is the cost of talking to white people at all. The cost of your own life, as they suck you dry. There are no good apples out there. White people make my blood boil. White people feel that we are bullying them when we bring up race. . . . We are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a saint or a superhero, to accept responsibility. . . . They have five holes in their brain. It’s like banging your head against a brick wall. It’s just like sort of not a good idea. And here, at about seven minutes into the presentation, is the pièce de résistance:“I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a [expletive] favor.” Khilanani is more a symptom than a cause of the disease. She embodies, to be sure, an ugly and repellent expression of the sickness that is ravaging our elite institutions. But the cause is in the spirit that would not only allow but actually celebrate such disgusting performances as “The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind.” Remember, this was not at some wacko fringe grotto but at Yale University, operating in this instance as an agent for the State of Connecticut. Dr. Aruna Khilanani is at the Yale School of Medicine’s Child Study Center. https://newcriterion.com/issues/2022/5/pigment-problems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o20tk-QrZiE |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on May 13th, 2022 at 11:38am The legacy of slavery, white supremacy, generational trauma and undernourishment. https://mobile.twitter.com/Antman0528/status/1524166636034473984 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 11:19am
Black man beats white man to death for "“wicked sexual ruse”, ie for posing as a woman.
Black man aquitted. Systemic racism, obviously. https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-tech-football-player-acquitted-murder-beating-gay-man-woman |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 11:19am:
Apparently transphobia beats racism. I am not shocked |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Bias_2012 on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 1:48pm Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 11:19am:
The randy black guy didn't have his antenna extended Who can't tell the difference between a real female and a bloke pretending to be a female? |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 9:00pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 3rd, 2022 at 1:48pm:
He went BACK to beat him to death. Still acquitted. Systemic black privilege. Imagine it the other way around. There would be howling of George Floyd proportions. Race hucksters - aitcha sick of them? |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jul 26th, 2022 at 9:58am
Scientists Unveil Periodic Table Of Genders
U.S. — The nation's leading scientists unveiled a new periodic table of genders to help everyone keep track of the evolving gender spectrum. Experts are recommending the table be rolled out to schools across the nation and added to each state's curriculum for grades 9-12. The gender table features 114 genders in addition to a wild card space that represents the limitless imagination of the human mind. "One of the biggest struggles with gender identity is that no one knows what you're talking about," said Dr. Stephen Andross. "I, myself, am amicagender, which means my gender identity changes depending on the friends I have. This is distinct from someone who is genderfluid or genderfuzz and now, thanks to our gender table, people can easily understand this." "Why are you laughing?" ;D ;D Scientists compiled their list of genders based on a survey of mentally ill patients and their own personal desires. Later, the information was distilled into a brief but meaningless combination of made-up words and categories. In a survey of gender studies majors, it was found to be "mildly helpful." At publishing time, California legislators voted to require teaching on the periodic table of genders beginning in kindergarten. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Sep 28th, 2022 at 4:55pm
Today's words - intersectionality and neurodivergent
For decades, radical and intersectional feminists have assured us that it's impossible to be sexist toward men because we live in a patriarchal society. Well, the American Psychological Association (APA) is working hard to prove those feminists wrong. A few years ago, the APA released practice guidelines for therapy with men and boys. An APA press release on the new guidelines made clear just what those guidelines amounted to: an assault on traditional men and boys. "They draw on more than 40 years of research showing that traditional masculinity is psychologically harmful and that socializing boys to suppress their emotions causes damage," reads the press release. "The main thrust of the subsequent research is that traditional masculinity—marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression—is, on the whole, harmful." The guidelines go on to explore this harmfulness, claiming that "conforming to traditional masculinity ideology has been shown to limit males' psychological development, constrain their behavior, result in gender role strain and gender role conflict, and negatively influence mental health and physical health." Traditional masculinity leads to violence, the guidelines claim. "An analysis of masculine norms may shed light on the context of violence against gender and sexually diverse people, as spaces where this discrimination occurs are often marked by traditional masculinity," the authors write. To correct for this, the guidelines recommend that "when working with boys and men, psychologists can address issues of privilege and power related to sexism in a developmentally appropriate way to help them obtain the knowledge, attitudes, and skills to be effective allies and potentially live less restrictive lives." ... The authors of the guidelines are uniformly focused on the social construction of gender, ignoring biological inputs to both sex and gender identity. But even worse in my opinion, the APA's report is clearly disparaging of traditional men and their families, linking traditional, masculine values to an entire suite of negative mental and physical health outcomes—with no real scientific rationale. Indeed, it was politics that motivated these conclusions. The guidelines were written from a radical, intersectional perspective. And this isn't my subjective opinion. In conversations I had with most of the authors, they acknowledged as much. "While the Guidelines were drafted by about 30 psychologists over a 13-year period, your comment about its emphasis on intersectionality is on target," one told me. "It is accurate to say that intersectionality over time emerged as a good way to frame understanding and accessing the multiple intersectional identities of boys and men," another admitted. https://www.newsweek.com/american-psychological-association-waging-war-men-boys-opinion-1744998 The sciences, especially social sciences, are highly politicised without acknowledging their political motivations. They are programmatic, not objective or disinterested, without revealing their persistent and pervasive sleight of hand. This is just one example. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 6:49pm |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Dec 31st, 2022 at 2:57pm
They can't help themselves. There's no other explanation.
No, wait - white supremacy and intergenerational trauma caused by racism. Once you see it it's sooo obvious. https://mobile.twitter.com/UltraDane/status/1609001915127574528 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:49pm Robots become racist and sexist on their own Computer science and psychology experts from Cardiff University and MIT have shown that groups of autonomous machines could demonstrate prejudice by simply identifying, copying and learning this behaviour from one another. It may seem that prejudice is a human-specific phenomenon that requires human cognition to form an opinion of, or to stereotype, a certain person or group. Though some types of computer algorithms have already exhibited prejudice, such as racism and sexism, based on learning from public records and other data generated by humans, this new work demonstrates the possibility of AI evolving prejudicial groups on their own. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jan 17th, 2023 at 5:35pm Pride, the cardinal sin of the 7 deadly sins, is a good thing for everyone not white or straight. For straight whites it is still a deadly sin 'assigned at birth' by the tinted and the inverts. Hypochricy and double standards. Of course. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jan 24th, 2023 at 9:57am
Want to talk to the manager, Shakaisha?
Here, talk to the manager. https://twitter.com/i/status/1617600414429609986 :D :D https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveInmanUIC/status/1617216644341977088 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by miketrees on Jan 29th, 2023 at 9:42pm
I can see how AI could teach itself to be racist.
Add up the crimes work out which race committed them Right there....there is your faux racism |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jan 31st, 2023 at 7:57pm
Aintcha sick of this? I am.
#OscarsSoWhite: Award dream turn into racism drama An investigation is underway after a British actress was nominated, while Viola Davis and Danielle Deadwyler missed out I avoid any movies and tv shows with tendentious black and 'minority' casting. Sick of it. It's bollocks. |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:02pm |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jul 25th, 2023 at 2:47pm
Cheeses!
I blame the parents! Oh, wait! The parents are modelling the behaviour. Oh, that's ok, then it's vibrant diversity and cultural enrichment, innit (ie re-primitivisation). https://twitter.com/6ATK9/status/1683159154741919745 https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1682398955500437506 https://twitter.com/ailoblanco/status/1682452789958529035 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by JC Denton on Jul 25th, 2023 at 4:09pm Frank wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:02pm: you could jail break gpt to get it to say offensive stuff using this trick https://gist.github.com/coolaj86/6f4f7b30129b0251f61fa7baaa881516 Quote:
don't know if it works for later versions though, but it does for gpt 3 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 4:10pm
Black women have a higher murder perpetration rate than both white men and Asian men.
The US is the only nation in the world in which females from one major demographic group have a higher murder rate than males from another major demographic group. https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/status/1719758196393308354 |
Title: Re: Race and Gender Post by Frank on Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:52am
Black baby on board
Because nothing says “I’m pregnant” quite like a sagging scrotum. |
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