For all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk it turns out you didn't need to and now you can't reverse it. Too bad suckers, next time don't take your medical advice from the plebs on the MSM because you will get bad advice :D LOL

No doubt Carl Dickhead will still have his 2nd dose :D LOL

https://www.australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/australian-gps-can-legally-prescribe-ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol-professor-thomas-borody/


Quote:

Australian GPs Can Legally Prescribe Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol — Professor Thomas Borody The Centre for Digestive Diseases issued today a press release titled “Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol for COVID-19 Released to Australian GPs for Infected Elderly and Frontline Workers.” As we previously covered, this early treatment protocol combines ivermectin with doxycycline and zinc. “Triple therapy specialist Professor Thomas Borody, famous for curing peptic ulcers using a triple antibiotic therapy saving millions of lives, today released the COVID-19 treatment protocol to Australian GPs, who can legally prescribe it to their COVID-19 positive patients. They can also prescribe it as a preventative medication. Borody says this could be the fastest and safest way to end the pandemic in Australia within 6-8 weeks.” “The three medications are now on chemist shelves right now. GPs can email GP@CDD.com.au to obtain the dosing protocol and COVID-19 treatment information for their patients.” “GPs can legally prescribe the therapy today as an “off label” treatment according to Australian Guidelines – a standard practice in medicine.” “In fact more than 60% of prescriptions in Australia are “off-label”. It’s not a new concept. It’s happening every day to manage diseases and save lives.” “The Government could end the pandemic by openly encouraging GPs to prescribe these TGA approved medications. Those who test positive, are identified in contact tracing, as well as those in high-risk groups like the elderly and healthcare workers, can then access the therapy quickly.” Ivermectin was discovered in the 1970s and is on the World Health Organization (WHO) list of essential medicines. “There is mounting worldwide clinical literature pointing to a 100% cure rate using Ivermectin Triple Therapy,” said Professor Borody.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:59pm:

or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to

you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D

Small pharma can make it if they want.

Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended for different periods in various countries. Thus, other companies' ivermectin preparations are now commercially available.

https://www.scielosp.org/article/bwho/2004.v82n8/562-562/

Gordon wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D Small pharma can make it if they want. Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended for different periods in various countries. Thus, other companies' ivermectin preparations are now commercially available. https://www.scielosp.org/article/bwho/2004.v82n8/562-562/

and? It still came from big pharma ... which is what stupid seems to have a problem with.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D

He wouldn't even know what 'big pharma' means.

It's just something he read on Facebook that he likes to repeat.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:06pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D Small pharma can make it if they want. Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended for different periods in various countries. Thus, other companies' ivermectin preparations are now commercially available. https://www.scielosp.org/article/bwho/2004.v82n8/562-562/ and? It still came from big pharma ... which is what stupid seems to have a problem with.

Came from, once upon a time. It's now easy to make and if it were a Covid treatment, nobody will get super rich off it.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:06pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D Small pharma can make it if they want. Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended for different periods in various countries. Thus, other companies' ivermectin preparations are now commercially available. https://www.scielosp.org/article/bwho/2004.v82n8/562-562/ and? It still came from big pharma ... which is what stupid seems to have a problem with.

It's been around since 1970 dickhead. How long is that sh,t you injected inside you been around ?? Too bad sucker, you lose :D LOL

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D He wouldn't even know what 'big pharma' means. It's just something he read on Facebook that he likes to repeat.

It's no longer owned by any of them so what's your fricken point groggary or are you trying to make yourself feel better by shooting the messenger just because you didn't need to inject that sh.t inside you after all. Too bad sucker, next time (that's if there is a next time) don't listen to the ABC shills for medical advice :D LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:11pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D He wouldn't even know what 'big pharma' means. It's just something he read on Facebook that he likes to repeat. It's no longer owned by any of them so what's your fricken point groggary or are you trying to make yourself feel better by shooting the messenger just because you didn't need to inject that sh.t inside you after all. Too bad sucker. Next time don't listen to the ABC shills for medical advice

Next time I'll listen to a chronically unemployed internet troll with mental health problems, and Tik Tok.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:11pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D He wouldn't even know what 'big pharma' means. It's just something he read on Facebook that he likes to repeat. It's no longer owned by any of them so what's your fricken point groggary or are you trying to make yourself feel better by shooting the messenger just because you didn't need to inject that sh.t inside you after all. Too bad sucker. Next time don't listen to the ABC shills for medical advice Next time I'll listen to a chronically unemployed internet troll with mental health problems, and Tik Tok.

Too bad sucker - you lose ! :D LOL

They can legally prescribe but if they take their Hippocratic oath seriously they won't.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:59pm:

For all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk it turns out you didn't need to and now you can't reverse it. Too bad suckers, next time don't take your medical advice from the plebs on the MSM because you will get bad advice :D LOL No doubt Carl Dickhead will still have his 2nd dose :D LOL https://www.australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/australian-gps-can-legally-prescribe-ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol-professor-thomas-borody/ Quote: Australian GPs Can Legally Prescribe Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol — Professor Thomas Borody The Centre for Digestive Diseases issued today a press release titled “Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol for COVID-19 Released to Australian GPs for Infected Elderly and Frontline Workers.” As we previously covered, this early treatment protocol combines ivermectin with doxycycline and zinc. “Triple therapy specialist Professor Thomas Borody, famous for curing peptic ulcers using a triple antibiotic therapy saving millions of lives, today released the COVID-19 treatment protocol to Australian GPs, who can legally prescribe it to their COVID-19 positive patients. They can also prescribe it as a preventative medication. Borody says this could be the fastest and safest way to end the pandemic in Australia within 6-8 weeks.” “The three medications are now on chemist shelves right now. GPs can email GP@CDD.com.au to obtain the dosing protocol and COVID-19 treatment information for their patients.” “GPs can legally prescribe the therapy today as an “off label” treatment according to Australian Guidelines – a standard practice in medicine.” “In fact more than 60% of prescriptions in Australia are “off-label”. It’s not a new concept. It’s happening every day to manage diseases and save lives.” “The Government could end the pandemic by openly encouraging GPs to prescribe these TGA approved medications. Those who test positive, are identified in contact tracing, as well as those in high-risk groups like the elderly and healthcare workers, can then access the therapy quickly.” Ivermectin was discovered in the 1970s and is on the World Health Organization (WHO) list of essential medicines. “There is mounting worldwide clinical literature pointing to a 100% cure rate using Ivermectin Triple Therapy,” said Professor Borody.

Hi Nail,
I hope that doesn't give false hope to people dying of Covid?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/Sir_lastnail.jpg

Have to admire Sir Nail's persistence if nothing else.

I'm pretty sure he has a 100% success rate so far with having his ridiculous posts 'shot down in flames' yet he keeps coming back for more. He's like the freaking Energizer Bunny. :D

Anyway, I'll have to make this short because I don't want another headache just before turning in for the night.


Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:59pm:

No doubt Carl (**abuse removed again**) will still have his 2nd dose :D LOL

Yep, September 13th. 3 weeks from tomorrow (Monday). 8-)

And, I will happily roll up my sleeve for any booster shots which may be needed in the future.

Oh, by the way... my 91 year old aunt is having her second AstraZeneca Covid vaccine this Thursday. She had no reaction at all to her first dose in mid May (not even a sore arm) and she isn't the slightest bit worried about getting the second one so I'm pretty sure you won't have anything to worry about if you get yourself vaccinated.

Don't wait too long though because it looks like the antivaxxers are starting to drop like flies (here and here). :o

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Can any internet expert tell us why highly infectious delta strain cases are declining where it originated while cases are increasing everywhere else?

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John Dillermand wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:53pm:

They can legally prescribe but if they take their Hippocratic oath seriously they won't.

You mean hypocritical oath. So you know more than that professor ?? You're an idiot mucus. You are fixated with big pharma profits and nothing else matters :D LOL

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 12:24am:

Can any internet expert tell us why highly infectious delta strain cases are declining where it originated while cases are increasing everywhere else?

Easy spread away from original site.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 11:00am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:53pm: They can legally prescribe but if they take their Hippocratic oath seriously they won't. You mean hypocritical oath. So you know more than that professor ?? You're an idiot mucus. You are fixated with big pharma profits and nothing else matters :D LOL

No I mean hippocratic oath to do no harm and use evidence based medicine, you pilled halfwit.

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 11:58am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 11:00am: John Dillermand wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 8:53pm: They can legally prescribe but if they take their Hippocratic oath seriously they won't. You mean hypocritical oath. So you know more than that professor ?? You're an idiot mucus. You are fixated with big pharma profits and nothing else matters :D LOL No I mean hippocratic oath to do no harm and use evidence based medicine, you pilled halfwit.

what on an unproven drug which is been hurried to market because of emergency usage and is already doing harm when an established drug has been proven by an eminent professor and not the AMA mafia !!

No it's the hypocritical oath in your case.

AS opposed to ivermectin an unproven drug against COVID?

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:17pm:

It's been around since 1970 dickhead. How long is that sh,t you injected inside you been around ?? Too bad sucker, you lose Cheesy LOL

not against covid it hasn't.
:D :D

Final word from the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)
The only ruling that matters


Ivermectin is not approved for the treatment of COVID-19

Treatment of COVID-19 is not a permitted indication for any TGA-approved Ivermectin products, which means that the TGA has not assessed the safety and efficacy of these products for this condition. Doctors that prescribe Ivermectin off label must consider the potential risks and benefits, and obtain informed consent from patients about the condition and treatment options.


https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/risks-importing-ivermectin-treatment-covid-19

Quote:

Indian Bar Association sues WHO scientist over Ivermectin The Indian Bar Association (IBA) sued WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan on May 25, accusing her in a 71-point brief of causing the deaths of Indian citizens by misleading them about Ivermectin. Point 56 states, “That your misleading tweet on May 10, 2021, against the use of Ivermectin had the effect of the State of Tamil Nadu withdrawing Ivermectin from the protocol on May 11, 2021, just a day after the Tamil Nadu government had indicated the same for the treatment of COVID-19 patients.” https://science.thewire.in/health/tn-revises-protocols-leaves-out-Ivermectin-for-covid-patients/ Advocate Dipali Ojha, lead attorney for the Indian Bar Association, threatened criminal prosecution against Dr.  Swaminathan “for each death” caused by her acts of commission and omission. The brief accused Swaminathan of misconduct by using her position as a health authority to further the agenda of special interests to maintain an EUA for the lucrative vaccine industry. https://indianbarassociation.in/press-releases/ Specific charges included the running of a disinformation campaign against Ivermectin and issuing statements in social and mainstream media to wrongfully influence the public against the use of Ivermectin despite the existence of large amounts of clinical data showing its profound effectiveness in both prevention and treatment of COVID-19. In particular, the Indian Bar brief referenced the peer-reviewed publications and evidence compiled by the ten-member Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) group and the 65-member British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) panel headed by WHO consultant and meta-analysis expert Dr. Tess Lawrie. The brief cited US Attorney Ralph C. Lorigo’s hospital cases in New York where court orders were required for dying COVID patients to receive the Ivermectin. In multiple instances of such comatose patients, following the court-ordered Ivermectin, the patients recovered. In addition, the Indian Bar Association cited previous articles published in this forum, The Desert Review. Advocate Ojha accused the WHO and Dr. Swaminathan in Points 60 and 61 as having misled and misguided the Indian people throughout the pandemic from mask wear to exonerating China as to the virus's origins. “The world is gradually waking up to your absurd, arbitrary and fallacious approach in presenting concocted facts as ‘scientific approach.’ While the WHO flaunts itself like a ‘know it all,’ it is akin to the vain Emperor in new clothes while the entire world has realized by now, the Emperor has no clothes at all.” The brief accused the WHO of being complicit in a vast disinformation campaign. Point 61 states, “The FLCCC and the BIRD have shown exemplary courage in building a formidable force to tackle the challenge of disinformation, resistance, and rebuke from pharma lobbies and powerful health interests like WHO, NIH, CDC, and regulators like the US FDA.” Dr. Swaminathan was called out for her malfeasance in discrediting Ivermectin to preserve the EUA for the vaccine and pharmaceutical industry. Point 52 reads,  “It seems you have deliberately opted for deaths of people to achieve your ulterior goals, and this is sufficient grounds for criminal prosecution against you.” The Indian Bar Association posted an update on their website June 5, 2021, noting that Dr. Swaminathan had deleted her now-infamous tweet. They wrote, "However, deleting the tweet will not save Dr. Soumya Swaminathan and her associates from the criminal prosecution which is to be launched by the citizens with active support from the Indian Bar Association."

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 6:54pm:

Final word from the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) The only ruling that matters Ivermectin is not approved for the treatment of COVID-19 Treatment of COVID-19 is not a permitted indication for any TGA-approved Ivermectin products, which means that the TGA has not assessed the safety and efficacy of these products for this condition. Doctors that prescribe Ivermectin off label must consider the potential risks and benefits, and obtain informed consent from patients about the condition and treatment options. https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/risks-importing-ivermectin-treatment-covid-19

I'm sure it won't be a problem ;)

If it works to save lives then use it.

Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap.

WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......????

The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life.

And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!!

What part of "IT DOESN'T WORK" don't (or won't) people understand?

Ajax wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 12:31am:

If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!!

Because the first part of your assertion isn't true. It doesn't work.

Why would you part with all that cash for Ivermectin on prescription
(if you can find a doctor willing to risk his licence)
- when you can buy an almost identical drug at PetBarn
and all good supermarkets ?


https://image.budgetpetproducts.com.au/products_pictures/1/69/68119.jpg

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 2:09pm:

AS opposed to ivermectin an unproven drug against COVID?

You and yours keep saying "an unproven drug against COVID".

But we have the WITNESS of Professor Thomas Borody [who is an eminent person in his field] and of many other persons,
attesting to the 100% efficacy against the COVID virus of the 'Ivermectin triple therapy'.

Dictionary;
eminent
1 respected; distinguished.
2 notable; outstanding


VERSUS, almost everyone the medical and pharma 'intelligentsia' refusing to EVEN TEST the veracity
of the myriad reports, of many different witnesses,
to the standing, and real efficacy [in the experience of those witnesses] of the 'Ivermectin triple therapy', against the COVID virus.

AND, we all are the WITNESS,     .....of when the COVID vaccines were FIRST RELEASED, with the same medical and pharma 'intelligentsia',
assuring anyone who would listen,
that these new COVID vaccines would provide the 'knock-out-blow' to the COVID virus,
and that their takeup would facilitate the end of all of the LOCKDOWNS, and of the repeated surges of
the COVID virus.

But that hasn't been the experience, in the takeup of these new COVID vaccines.

Indeed, we are witnessing that even those who are 'fully vaccinated' against the COVID virus, can still, both catch [with devastating symptoms!!] and spread the COVID virus !!!

And,
the social distancing,
the mandatory mask wearing,
and the community wide LOCKDOWNS,
and the COVID virus infection surges,
are all still with us.


Q.
AND WHY SO ?

A.
Because it is becoming evident to everyone,        ....that being 'fully vaccinated' against the COVID virus,
offers very little protection [if any], against the COVID virus !!!

Because the current crop of COVID vaccines are, in effect, dead parrots !!!

They are 'dead', Norwegian Blues.



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1629355485/0#0

Quote:

QUESTION; PLEASE EXPLAIN - why are these two circumstances ['headlines'], so incongruent, in being found together ? ----- > #1, WWW search.... 2021-Aug Israel, COVID vaccination rate surpasses 80% #2, WWW search.... 2021-Aug Israel, experiencing COVID virus infection surge

Ajax wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 12:31am:

If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!!

Enough said.

And yet, it isn't 'approved' for use.
.....because the medical and pharma 'intelligentsia' are terrified,
of     what THE TRUTH may reveal,     about themselves.

Yadda wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 9:59am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 2:09pm: AS opposed to ivermectin an unproven drug against COVID? You and yours keep saying "an unproven drug against COVID". But we have the WITNESS of Professor Thomas Borody [who is an eminent person in his field] and of many other persons, attesting to the 100% efficacy against the COVID virus of the 'Ivermectin triple therapy'. Dictionary; eminent 1 respected; distinguished. 2 notable; outstanding VERSUS, almost everyone the medical and pharma 'intelligentsia' refusing to EVEN TEST the veracity of the myriad reports, of many different witnesses, to the standing, and real efficacy [in the experience of those witnesses] of the 'Ivermectin triple therapy', against the COVID virus. AND, we all are the WITNESS,     .....of when the COVID vaccines were FIRST RELEASED, with the same medical and pharma 'intelligentsia', assuring anyone who would listen, that these new COVID vaccines would provide the 'knock-out-blow' to the COVID virus, and that their takeup would facilitate the end of all of the LOCKDOWNS, and of the repeated surges of the COVID virus. But that hasn't been the experience, in the takeup of these new COVID vaccines. Indeed, we are witnessing that even those who are 'fully vaccinated' against the COVID virus, can still, both catch [with devastating symptoms!!] and spread the COVID virus !!! And, the social distancing, the mandatory mask wearing, and the community wide LOCKDOWNS, and the COVID virus infection surges, are all still with us. Q. AND WHY SO ? A. Because it is becoming evident to everyone,        ....that being 'fully vaccinated' against the COVID virus, offers very little protection [if any], against the COVID virus !!! Because the current crop of COVID vaccines are, in effect, dead parrots !!! They are 'dead', Norwegian Blues. ------- > Yadda said.... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1629355485/0#0 Quote: QUESTION; PLEASE EXPLAIN - why are these two circumstances ['headlines'], so incongruent, in being found together ? ----- > #1, WWW search.... 2021-Aug Israel, COVID vaccination rate surpasses 80% #2, WWW search.... 2021-Aug Israel, experiencing COVID virus infection surge

ANd yo dont think Borody has anything to gain from promoting a therpapy he developed? Even his fellow researchers have backed away from him

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 9:37am:

Why would you part with all that cash for Ivermectin on prescription (if you can find a doctor willing to risk his licence) - when you can buy an almost identical drug at PetBarn and all good supermarkets ? https://image.budgetpetproducts.com.au/products_pictures/1/69/68119.jpg

Yeh been around for a long time and used for all sorts of ailments. How long has that sh.t you injected into yourself been around for ?? You must be stupid to inject that sh.t into yourself !

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 10:52am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 9:37am: Why would you part with all that cash for Ivermectin on prescription (if you can find a doctor willing to risk his licence) - when you can buy an almost identical drug at PetBarn and all good supermarkets ? https://image.budgetpetproducts.com.au/products_pictures/1/69/68119.jpg Yeh been around for a long time and used for all sorts of ailments. How long has that sh.t you injected into yourself been around for ?? You must be stupid to inject that sh.t into yourself !

Yes all sorts of ailments none of which are viral infections.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 10:52am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 9:37am: Why would you part with all that cash for Ivermectin on prescription (if you can find a doctor willing to risk his licence) - when you can buy an almost identical drug at PetBarn and all good supermarkets ? Yeh been around for a long time and used for all sorts of ailments. How long has that sh.t you injected into yourself been around for ?? You must be stupid to inject that sh.t into yourself !

Around 75 years, roughly
Almost every year a new 'flu' emerges
And months later a new vaccine starts emptying into syringes, worldwide

Believe it, or not - NO vaccine undergoes the 'years and years' of trials you require
This type of raspatory is called a rhinovirus
There are SIX flu vaccines on the market this ear - all with their own list of possible side effects
Your doctor will not tell you which one you've been given
Patients are prone to imagining symptoms they THINK they should be getting

I've had an *untested* flu shot this year, as with every upcoming flu season over the last decade


Coronavirus type infections were first discovered in the mid-sixties
The first corona vaccine was formulated  twenty years ago
As with the rhinovirus, the Coronavirus vaccine is constantly under development - and being 'tweaked' to meet the virus just around the corner

I've had BOTH *untested* AstraZeneca shots - as of two months ago
If - and when - I grow a second or third head, I promise you'll be the first to know

Ajax wrote on Aug 24^th, 2021 at 12:31am:

If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!!

Its been approved in Australian in India and some other parts of the world.

Would they approve a drug that did not work well I guess they already have with the current crop of covid vaccines LOL.

So are you a doctor then.....???

All you know is what you read right!!!!!

My GP has told me that Ivermectin can help covid patients who are ill.

Ajax wrote on Aug 29^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:31am: If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!! Its been approved in Australian in India and some other parts of the world. Would they approve a drug that did not work well I guess they already have with the current crop of covid vaccines LOL. So are you a doctor then.....??? All you know is what you read right!!!!! My GP has told me that Ivermectin can help covid patients who are ill.

See if your GP can help this guy:

A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus

*An anti-vaxx police officer has died in Georgia after a short battle with COVID-19.

*Captain Joe Manning posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took the drug ivermectin.

*The CDC has said ivermectin does not help prevent or treat coronavirus and can cause severe illness.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 3:15pm:

Ajax wrote on Aug 29th, 2021 at 1:51am: Ajax wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:31am: If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!! Its been approved in Australian in India and some other parts of the world. Would they approve a drug that did not work well I guess they already have with the current crop of covid vaccines LOL. So are you a doctor then.....??? All you know is what you read right!!!!! My GP has told me that Ivermectin can help covid patients who are ill. See if your GP can help this guy: A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus *An anti-vaxx police officer has died in Georgia after a short battle with COVID-19. *Captain Joe Manning posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took the drug ivermectin. *The CDC has said ivermectin does not help prevent or treat coronavirus and can cause severe illness.

In one post, Manning shared an image that said, "I am not vaccinated by choice and that's my right."

Yes. And it's also your right to rest in peace now.

Thoughts & prayers.

Ajax wrote on Aug 29^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:31am: If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!! Its been approved in Australian in India and some other parts of the world. Would they approve a drug that did not work well I guess they already have with the current crop of covid vaccines LOL. So are you a doctor then.....??? All you know is what you read right!!!!! My GP has told me that Ivermectin can help covid patients who are ill.

Then your GP should be struck off AHPRA

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:15pm: Ajax wrote on Aug 29th, 2021 at 1:51am: Ajax wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:31am: If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!! Its been approved in Australian in India and some other parts of the world. Would they approve a drug that did not work well I guess they already have with the current crop of covid vaccines LOL. So are you a doctor then.....??? All you know is what you read right!!!!! My GP has told me that Ivermectin can help covid patients who are ill. See if your GP can help this guy: A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus *An anti-vaxx police officer has died in Georgia after a short battle with COVID-19. *Captain Joe Manning posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took the drug ivermectin. *The CDC has said ivermectin does not help prevent or treat coronavirus and can cause severe illness. In one post, Manning shared an image that said, "I am not vaccinated by choice and that's my right." Yes. And it's also your right to rest in peace now. Thoughts & prayers.

Tell that to the Israeli's groggary where the experiment has failed !

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:15pm: Ajax wrote on Aug 29th, 2021 at 1:51am: Ajax wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:31am: If it works to save lives then use it. Been around for a long time its safe and its cheap. WTF is there to argue about sheeple.......???? The current crop of vaccines if they can be called a vaccine make you sick and sometimes takes your life. And you still argue, buggerwits..........!!!! Its been approved in Australian in India and some other parts of the world. Would they approve a drug that did not work well I guess they already have with the current crop of covid vaccines LOL. So are you a doctor then.....??? All you know is what you read right!!!!! My GP has told me that Ivermectin can help covid patients who are ill. See if your GP can help this guy: A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus *An anti-vaxx police officer has died in Georgia after a short battle with COVID-19. *Captain Joe Manning posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took the drug ivermectin. *The CDC has said ivermectin does not help prevent or treat coronavirus and can cause severe illness. In one post, Manning shared an image that said, "I am not vaccinated by choice and that's my right." Yes. And it's also your right to rest in peace now. Thoughts & prayers.

At least he died doing what he loved.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 12:24am:

Can any internet expert tell us why highly infectious delta strain cases are declining where it originated while cases are increasing everywhere else?

India's success with a mixture of medications, particularly Ivermectin is pretty insane to be honest.
Especially if you look at state specific data and compare the states that went heavy into it vs those that heavily restricted its's use.

Dehli and Uttar Pradesh in particular compared to somewhere like Tamil Nadu.
On one hand you have a place with 67 million people spiking up to around 35k daily cases (52 per 100,000) which didn't finish peaking until the end of May and on the other hand you have a state with 3x the people and almost 2x the population density spiking up to about 33k daily cases (15 per 100,000) a month early that's pretty much wiped out the Delta variant ow.

It's remarkable....64 peer reviewed or randomized controlled trials and it's still not good enough?

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D

That is why they want the Horse worming version. whinny -- neigh

Vuk11 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 9:29pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 12:24am: Can any internet expert tell us why highly infectious delta strain cases are declining where it originated while cases are increasing everywhere else? India's success with a mixture of medications, particularly Ivermectin is pretty insane to be honest. Especially if you look at state specific data and compare the states that went heavy into it vs those that heavily restricted its's use. Dehli and Uttar Pradesh in particular compared to somewhere like Tamil Nadu. On one hand you have a place with 67 million people spiking up to around 35k daily cases (52 per 100,000) which didn't finish peaking until the end of May and on the other hand you have a state with 3x the people and almost 2x the population density spiking up to about 33k daily cases (15 per 100,000) a month early that's pretty much wiped out the Delta variant ow. It's remarkable....64 peer reviewed or randomized controlled trials and it's still not good enough?

Because there were more showing it doesnt work, and the 64 have flaws.

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 11:32pm:

Vuk11 wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 9:29pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 12:24am: Can any internet expert tell us why highly infectious delta strain cases are declining where it originated while cases are increasing everywhere else? India's success with a mixture of medications, particularly Ivermectin is pretty insane to be honest. Especially if you look at state specific data and compare the states that went heavy into it vs those that heavily restricted its's use. Dehli and Uttar Pradesh in particular compared to somewhere like Tamil Nadu. On one hand you have a place with 67 million people spiking up to around 35k daily cases (52 per 100,000) which didn't finish peaking until the end of May and on the other hand you have a state with 3x the people and almost 2x the population density spiking up to about 33k daily cases (15 per 100,000) a month early that's pretty much wiped out the Delta variant ow. It's remarkable....64 peer reviewed or randomized controlled trials and it's still not good enough? Because there were more showing it doesnt work, and the 64 have flaws.

More than 64 studies showing it doesn't work? I've found 3, where's the other 62+ lol?
It was used to end other viruses with 1/4 of the studies...

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greggerypeccary wrote
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See if your GP can help this guy:

A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus

*An anti-vaxx police officer has died in Georgia after a short battle with COVID-19.

*Captain Joe Manning posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took the drug ivermectin.

*The CDC has said ivermectin does not help prevent or treat coronavirus and can cause severe illness.

[/quote]

See if your GP can help these people:
"The coronavirus has killed six fully vaccinated people in the Seychelles, which is suffering heightened Covid-19 infections despite inoculating a greater proportion of its people than almost any other nation."
https://fortune.com/2021/07/02/fully-vaccinated-deaths-covid-seychelles-sinopharm-covishield-astrazeneca/

Not into right versus left regarding Ivermectin but blatantly silly posts are what they are.

the problem for ivermectin now is that it is impossible for it to be studied in the west.

imagine the repercussions for all the wests leaders, for scomo, boris, donald, joe, jacinda , fauci , our chief health officers if they DID study it and it DID do something.

imagine the repercussions for pfizer, moderna and AZ.

they would not only look foolish, they would look like mass murderers who denied people proper cheap therapy.

as only governments and big pharma COULD study it and they would be terrified by that prospect, such a study will never ever ever happen.

its dynamite and they know it.

its buried.

remember zuby

5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.

6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.

7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

goosecat wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 12:51am:

See if your GP can help these people: "The coronavirus has killed six fully vaccinated people in the Seychelles, which is suffering heightened Covid-19 infections despite inoculating a greater proportion of its people than almost any other nation." https://fortune.com/2021/07/02/fully-vaccinated-deaths-covid-seychelles-sinopharm-covishield-astrazeneca/ Not into right versus left regarding Ivermectin but blatantly silly posts are what they are.

I notice there you forgot to mention which vaccine they were using in the Seychelles. We already know Sinopharm has an extremely low effectiveness and I suspect there were batch issues with the Indian version of AZ. Additionally they were all over 60 and had multiple underlying conditions.

Australian imports of ivermectin increase tenfold, prompting warning from TGA

“Ivermectin is a prescription medicine that is not approved in Australia (or in other OECD countries) to prevent or treat Covid-19 disease, and should not be imported for this indication,” the regulator said.

“The TGA strongly discourages self-medication and self-dosing with ivermectin for Covid-19 as it may be dangerous to your health. There is insufficient evidence to validate the use of Ivermectin in patients with Covid-19.”

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:59pm: or all of the losers who couldn't wait to take the unproven untested big pharma junk you didn't need to you realise Ivermectin is owned by big pharma don't you? :D :D :D

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;

A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.


https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/

Expert scientists welcome the news of UK Government-funded research into Ivermectin for Covid-19 but questions its merit.
A just-published, peer-reviewed study clearly shows that Ivermectin prevents and treats Covid-19 and has the potential to save and improve countless lives in the UK and worldwide right now.
https://bird-group.org/meta-analysis-paper/

Mr. Andrew Bryant
Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
Mr. Bryant (MSc) is a Biostatistician with experience in clinical trials and systematic review methodology based at Newcastle University, UK. He has published a vast number of systematic reviews and final study reports. His expertise in systematic reviews broadens the expertise in the Biostatistics Research Group in Population Health Sciences Institute at Newcastle University. He is also statistical editor for the Cochrane Gynaecological and Neurological Cancer Review Group. Alongside his latest Covid related research, he is completing his PhD doctorate on primary surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. He has an array of impressive academic metrics, including his peer-reviewed work being cited well in excess of 4000 times. He has complete equipoise and has never declared any conflicts of interest in any of his academic research.
.


Dr Tess Lawrie
Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd
Tess is the Director of E-BMC Ltd, and EbMCsquared, a community interest research company. She is committed to improving the quality of healthcare through rigorous research. Her range of research expertise, based on research experience in both developing and developed countries, uniquely positions her to evaluate and design research for a variety of healthcare settings. Tess is a frequent member of technical teams responsible for developing international guidelines. Her peer-reviewed publications have received in excess of 3000 citations and her ResearchGate score is among the top 5% of ResearchGate members


Other Authors
Tony C. Tham MD FRCP
Ulster Hospital, Dundonald, Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK
Edmund J. Fordham PhD
Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK
Sarah R. Hill PhD
Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
Therese Dowswell PhD
Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK
Scott Mitchell MBChB MRCS
Emergency Department, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK

interesting goose.

regarding india,

they eat a lot of tumeric which does seem to have some effect on helping zinc get into cells.
and green tea also seems to help transport zinc and magnesium into cells.
its fascinating there hasnt been any health advice AT ALL in the last 18 months on personal responsibility to improve your nutrition.

i think thats because its very easy for smug intellectuals (who are probably fat and have a crap diet) to feel like they are health experts by just "wearing a mask and getting jabbed"

now you SHOULD do those things but you should do a lot more.

looking at all these co morbities it is blatantly obvious that unhealthy people die and healthy people rarely do.

so why not change your diet, exercise and beef up your supply of green tea and green vegetables.

i guess virtue signalling about a vax is just a lot easier then fundamentally getting down , elbows deep in the mud and changing at your core

aquascoot wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 1:56pm:

interesting goose. regarding india, they eat a lot of tumeric which does seem to have some effect on helping zinc get into cells. and green tea also seems to help transport zinc and magnesium into cells. its fascinating there hasnt been any health advice AT ALL in the last 18 months on personal responsibility to improve your nutrition. i think thats because its very easy for smug intellectuals (who are probably fat and have a crap diet) to feel like they are health experts by just "wearing a mask and getting jabbed" now you SHOULD do those things but you should do a lot more. looking at all these co morbities it is blatantly obvious that unhealthy people die and healthy people rarely do. so why not change your diet, exercise and beef up your supply of green tea and green vegetables. i guess virtue signalling about a vax is just a lot easier then fundamentally getting down , elbows deep in the mud and changing at your core

I think it's a little more complex than "lazy people". It is undoubtedly more work getting into large, healthier dietary changes which involves much more food preparation and effort for the individual. The truth is there seems to be an ever growing number of individuals for whom even that does not seem to mitigate accelerating immune response issues throughout society. Even Cancer is really a manifestation of malfunctions in immunity, as malignant cells manage to escape recognition and elimination by the immune system.
There is plenty of data out there saying for the first time in possibly human history, our average life-spans have started going back-wards. There's lots of theories on what is driving that but basically there is too much broad spectrum disease development for it to be attributed to a single issue. I'd say there is likely to be simply too much chemical addition through all the food, water and environmental chains, in too short a time span, for our bodies to have adapted. That's not some big, green, left conspiracy opinion. It's a pretty sensible and central bow to draw in reality.
Not sure what the answer is though. Removing a large number of all the chemical interactions, including right back to growing and producing base meat and vegetables etc would have major repercussions for production levels.
There is of course the argument saying it is simply nature finding it's natural balance. Perhaps humans in there current form shouldn't be living longer.

goosecat wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 1:46pm:

Expert scientists welcome the news of UK Government-funded research into Ivermectin for Covid-19 but questions its merit. A just-published, peer-reviewed study clearly shows that Ivermectin prevents and treats Covid-19 and has the potential to save and improve countless lives in the UK and worldwide right now. https://bird-group.org/meta-analysis-paper/ Mr. Andrew Bryant Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Mr. Bryant (MSc) is a Biostatistician with experience in clinical trials and systematic review methodology based at Newcastle University, UK. He has published a vast number of systematic reviews and final study reports. His expertise in systematic reviews broadens the expertise in the Biostatistics Research Group in Population Health Sciences Institute at Newcastle University. He is also statistical editor for the Cochrane Gynaecological and Neurological Cancer Review Group. Alongside his latest Covid related research, he is completing his PhD doctorate on primary surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. He has an array of impressive academic metrics, including his peer-reviewed work being cited well in excess of 4000 times. He has complete equipoise and has never declared any conflicts of interest in any of his academic research. . Dr Tess Lawrie Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd Tess is the Director of E-BMC Ltd, and EbMCsquared, a community interest research company. She is committed to improving the quality of healthcare through rigorous research. Her range of research expertise, based on research experience in both developing and developed countries, uniquely positions her to evaluate and design research for a variety of healthcare settings. Tess is a frequent member of technical teams responsible for developing international guidelines. Her peer-reviewed publications have received in excess of 3000 citations and her ResearchGate score is among the top 5% of ResearchGate members Other Authors Tony C. Tham MD FRCP Ulster Hospital, Dundonald, Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK Edmund J. Fordham PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Sarah R. Hill PhD Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Therese Dowswell PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Scott Mitchell MBChB MRCS Emergency Department, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK

Always trust a metaanalysis that had to be printed on a web site.

And scractch a ivermectin site, its always anti-vaxx

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 2:31pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 1:46pm: Expert scientists welcome the news of UK Government-funded research into Ivermectin for Covid-19 but questions its merit. A just-published, peer-reviewed study clearly shows that Ivermectin prevents and treats Covid-19 and has the potential to save and improve countless lives in the UK and worldwide right now. https://bird-group.org/meta-analysis-paper/ Mr. Andrew Bryant Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Mr. Bryant (MSc) is a Biostatistician with experience in clinical trials and systematic review methodology based at Newcastle University, UK. He has published a vast number of systematic reviews and final study reports. His expertise in systematic reviews broadens the expertise in the Biostatistics Research Group in Population Health Sciences Institute at Newcastle University. He is also statistical editor for the Cochrane Gynaecological and Neurological Cancer Review Group. Alongside his latest Covid related research, he is completing his PhD doctorate on primary surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. He has an array of impressive academic metrics, including his peer-reviewed work being cited well in excess of 4000 times. He has complete equipoise and has never declared any conflicts of interest in any of his academic research. . Dr Tess Lawrie Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd Tess is the Director of E-BMC Ltd, and EbMCsquared, a community interest research company. She is committed to improving the quality of healthcare through rigorous research. Her range of research expertise, based on research experience in both developing and developed countries, uniquely positions her to evaluate and design research for a variety of healthcare settings. Tess is a frequent member of technical teams responsible for developing international guidelines. Her peer-reviewed publications have received in excess of 3000 citations and her ResearchGate score is among the top 5% of ResearchGate members Other Authors Tony C. Tham MD FRCP Ulster Hospital, Dundonald, Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK Edmund J. Fordham PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Sarah R. Hill PhD Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Therese Dowswell PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Scott Mitchell MBChB MRCS Emergency Department, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK Always trust a metaanalysis that had to be printed on a web site.

Ah the response of an ideologue. Just disregard the qualifications and experts involved, including the universities such as Oxford and Newcastle. Lol, pathetic.
As an indication of just how ideological and non-factual based you evidently are;
Here is the actual peer reviewed and published study.
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
I guess you've now just confirmed the legitimacy of the first media group prepared to print it. Your true colours are really showing and it's pretty basic level right wing ideology.

goosecat wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 2:33pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 2:31pm: goosecat wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 1:46pm: Expert scientists welcome the news of UK Government-funded research into Ivermectin for Covid-19 but questions its merit. A just-published, peer-reviewed study clearly shows that Ivermectin prevents and treats Covid-19 and has the potential to save and improve countless lives in the UK and worldwide right now. https://bird-group.org/meta-analysis-paper/ Mr. Andrew Bryant Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Mr. Bryant (MSc) is a Biostatistician with experience in clinical trials and systematic review methodology based at Newcastle University, UK. He has published a vast number of systematic reviews and final study reports. His expertise in systematic reviews broadens the expertise in the Biostatistics Research Group in Population Health Sciences Institute at Newcastle University. He is also statistical editor for the Cochrane Gynaecological and Neurological Cancer Review Group. Alongside his latest Covid related research, he is completing his PhD doctorate on primary surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. He has an array of impressive academic metrics, including his peer-reviewed work being cited well in excess of 4000 times. He has complete equipoise and has never declared any conflicts of interest in any of his academic research. . Dr Tess Lawrie Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd Tess is the Director of E-BMC Ltd, and EbMCsquared, a community interest research company. She is committed to improving the quality of healthcare through rigorous research. Her range of research expertise, based on research experience in both developing and developed countries, uniquely positions her to evaluate and design research for a variety of healthcare settings. Tess is a frequent member of technical teams responsible for developing international guidelines. Her peer-reviewed publications have received in excess of 3000 citations and her ResearchGate score is among the top 5% of ResearchGate members Other Authors Tony C. Tham MD FRCP Ulster Hospital, Dundonald, Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK Edmund J. Fordham PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Sarah R. Hill PhD Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Therese Dowswell PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Scott Mitchell MBChB MRCS Emergency Department, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK Always trust a metaanalysis that had to be printed on a web site. Ah the response of an ideologue. Just disregard the qualifications and experts involved, including the universities such as Oxford and Newcastle. Lol, pathetic. As an indication of just how ideological and non-factual based you evidently are; Here is the actual peer reviewed and published study. https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx I guess you've now just confirmed the legitimacy of the first media group prepared to print it. Your true colours are really showing and it's pretty basic level right wing ideology.

Hang on a minute you're accusing me of being right wing because I'm arguing against ivermectin use?

Do you have any idea about the ideology of politicians pushing ivermectin as a treatment? Its not the greens let me tell you

Read the discussion of that paper goosecat, still seems weak.


Moderate certainty, too few events to reach statistical significance.

Have to admit though I'm too busy laughing at the accusation I'm right wing.

goosecat wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 2:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 1:56pm: interesting goose. regarding india, they eat a lot of tumeric which does seem to have some effect on helping zinc get into cells. and green tea also seems to help transport zinc and magnesium into cells. its fascinating there hasnt been any health advice AT ALL in the last 18 months on personal responsibility to improve your nutrition. i think thats because its very easy for smug intellectuals (who are probably fat and have a crap diet) to feel like they are health experts by just "wearing a mask and getting jabbed" now you SHOULD do those things but you should do a lot more. looking at all these co morbities it is blatantly obvious that unhealthy people die and healthy people rarely do. so why not change your diet, exercise and beef up your supply of green tea and green vegetables. i guess virtue signalling about a vax is just a lot easier then fundamentally getting down , elbows deep in the mud and changing at your core I think it's a little more complex than "lazy people". It is undoubtedly more work getting into large, healthier dietary changes which involves much more food preparation and effort for the individual. The truth is there seems to be an ever growing number of individuals for whom even that does not seem to mitigate accelerating immune response issues throughout society. Even Cancer is really a manifestation of malfunctions in immunity, as malignant cells manage to escape recognition and elimination by the immune system. There is plenty of data out there saying for the first time in possibly human history, our average life-spans have started going back-wards. There's lots of theories on what is driving that but basically there is too much broad spectrum disease development for it to be attributed to a single issue. I'd say there is likely to be simply too much chemical addition through all the food, water and environmental chains, in too short a time span, for our bodies to have adapted. That's not some big, green, left conspiracy opinion. It's a pretty sensible and central bow to draw in reality. Not sure what the answer is though. Removing a large number of all the chemical interactions, including right back to growing and producing base meat and vegetables etc would have major repercussions for production levels. There is of course the argument saying it is simply nature finding it's natural balance. Perhaps humans in there current form shouldn't be living longer.

yes, good point goose.

its why a vax is a good idea but you are going to need to do more then that.

so many "co-morbitites' can be reversed.

and people with lots of these health issues can "exist" as long as their systems arent stressed.

covid is a stress on your lungs, obviously.

if someone told me to carry a log to the top of a hill, i'm confident i could do it.

i doubt most people succumbing to covid could climb a flight of stairs.

but they have ample opportunity to work on their fitness.

why would you rely just on a vaccine when these facts are staring you in the face.

we really would be better off if Dan and Gladys led their states in a 1 hour cross fit class every day at 11 am instead of talking for the 100th time about "jabs in arms"

and those sherpas , who have the best lungs on the planet, live on that anti oxidant filled tea.

not as yummy as coca cola but way better

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 2:56pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 2:33pm: John Dillermand wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 2:31pm: goosecat wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 1:46pm: Expert scientists welcome the news of UK Government-funded research into Ivermectin for Covid-19 but questions its merit. A just-published, peer-reviewed study clearly shows that Ivermectin prevents and treats Covid-19 and has the potential to save and improve countless lives in the UK and worldwide right now. https://bird-group.org/meta-analysis-paper/ Mr. Andrew Bryant Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Mr. Bryant (MSc) is a Biostatistician with experience in clinical trials and systematic review methodology based at Newcastle University, UK. He has published a vast number of systematic reviews and final study reports. His expertise in systematic reviews broadens the expertise in the Biostatistics Research Group in Population Health Sciences Institute at Newcastle University. He is also statistical editor for the Cochrane Gynaecological and Neurological Cancer Review Group. Alongside his latest Covid related research, he is completing his PhD doctorate on primary surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. He has an array of impressive academic metrics, including his peer-reviewed work being cited well in excess of 4000 times. He has complete equipoise and has never declared any conflicts of interest in any of his academic research. . Dr Tess Lawrie Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd Tess is the Director of E-BMC Ltd, and EbMCsquared, a community interest research company. She is committed to improving the quality of healthcare through rigorous research. Her range of research expertise, based on research experience in both developing and developed countries, uniquely positions her to evaluate and design research for a variety of healthcare settings. Tess is a frequent member of technical teams responsible for developing international guidelines. Her peer-reviewed publications have received in excess of 3000 citations and her ResearchGate score is among the top 5% of ResearchGate members Other Authors Tony C. Tham MD FRCP Ulster Hospital, Dundonald, Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK Edmund J. Fordham PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Sarah R. Hill PhD Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Therese Dowswell PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Scott Mitchell MBChB MRCS Emergency Department, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK Always trust a metaanalysis that had to be printed on a web site. Ah the response of an ideologue. Just disregard the qualifications and experts involved, including the universities such as Oxford and Newcastle. Lol, pathetic. As an indication of just how ideological and non-factual based you evidently are; Here is the actual peer reviewed and published study. https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx I guess you've now just confirmed the legitimacy of the first media group prepared to print it. Your true colours are really showing and it's pretty basic level right wing ideology. Hang on a minute you're accusing me of being right wing because I'm arguing against ivermectin use? Do you have any idea about the ideology of politicians pushing ivermectin as a treatment? Its not the greens let me tell you

Fair enough, I shouldn't have used that term and it's not what I meant really. It does seem to be the more right leaning folk who instantly jump to an at times juvenile and under researched "fake news" proclamation, which you did.

Yak butter tea's a bit different to the stuff you see in the ads for Dilmah, dear.

It would be good to see Gladys leading the state in some callisthenics. We could add a few missile launchers and include a military parade too. Put Scomo in the convertible in his Mao suit, waving at the crowds.

goosecat wrote on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 3:11pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 2:56pm: goosecat wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 2:33pm: John Dillermand wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 2:31pm: goosecat wrote on Sep 1st, 2021 at 1:46pm: Expert scientists welcome the news of UK Government-funded research into Ivermectin for Covid-19 but questions its merit. A just-published, peer-reviewed study clearly shows that Ivermectin prevents and treats Covid-19 and has the potential to save and improve countless lives in the UK and worldwide right now. https://bird-group.org/meta-analysis-paper/ Mr. Andrew Bryant Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Mr. Bryant (MSc) is a Biostatistician with experience in clinical trials and systematic review methodology based at Newcastle University, UK. He has published a vast number of systematic reviews and final study reports. His expertise in systematic reviews broadens the expertise in the Biostatistics Research Group in Population Health Sciences Institute at Newcastle University. He is also statistical editor for the Cochrane Gynaecological and Neurological Cancer Review Group. Alongside his latest Covid related research, he is completing his PhD doctorate on primary surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. He has an array of impressive academic metrics, including his peer-reviewed work being cited well in excess of 4000 times. He has complete equipoise and has never declared any conflicts of interest in any of his academic research. . Dr Tess Lawrie Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd Tess is the Director of E-BMC Ltd, and EbMCsquared, a community interest research company. She is committed to improving the quality of healthcare through rigorous research. Her range of research expertise, based on research experience in both developing and developed countries, uniquely positions her to evaluate and design research for a variety of healthcare settings. Tess is a frequent member of technical teams responsible for developing international guidelines. Her peer-reviewed publications have received in excess of 3000 citations and her ResearchGate score is among the top 5% of ResearchGate members Other Authors Tony C. Tham MD FRCP Ulster Hospital, Dundonald, Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK Edmund J. Fordham PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Sarah R. Hill PhD Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Therese Dowswell PhD Evidence-Medicine consultancy Ltd, Bath, UK Scott Mitchell MBChB MRCS Emergency Department, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK Always trust a metaanalysis that had to be printed on a web site. Ah the response of an ideologue. Just disregard the qualifications and experts involved, including the universities such as Oxford and Newcastle. Lol, pathetic. As an indication of just how ideological and non-factual based you evidently are; Here is the actual peer reviewed and published study. https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx I guess you've now just confirmed the legitimacy of the first media group prepared to print it. Your true colours are really showing and it's pretty basic level right wing ideology. Hang on a minute you're accusing me of being right wing because I'm arguing against ivermectin use? Do you have any idea about the ideology of politicians pushing ivermectin as a treatment? Its not the greens let me tell you Fair enough, I shouldn't have used that term and it's not what I meant really. It does seem to be the more right leaning folk who instantly jump to an at times juvenile and under researched "fake news" proclamation, which you did.

I didn't call it fake news, I just didn't think it was as strong a evidence as you seem to think it is.

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Australian GPs Can Legally Prescribe Ivermectin Tr

As can most Vets.

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Australian GPs Can Legally Prescribe Ivermectin Tr

Should come in handy if a horse with worms comes in ?

So many idiots out there.

Westmead Hospital patient overdoses on online ‘cure’ for Covid-19

A Sydney Covid patient landed themselves in hospital after overdosing on a supposed cure for the virus they discovered online.

A Western Sydney Health toxicologist has issued a community warning for people not to “rely on online sham cures for Covid-19” after the patient got a stark dose of reality.

The positive case presented to Westmead Hospital’s emergency department with vomiting and diarrhoea recently from an overdose of the drug ivermectin and other supposed Covid cures they ordered online.

Westmead Hospital toxicologist Associate Professor Naren Gunja said the patient didn’t develop severe toxicity and was now recovering at home.

But he said it also didn’t help their recovery from the virus.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 7:29am:

So many idiots out there.

Yep, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of these idiots are the same ones who hoard toilet paper and other "essentials" every time there's a lockdown.

(We're both up early today... awful weather last night and again this morning, thought we'd seen the last of it).

Carl D wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 7:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2021 at 7:29am: So many idiots out there. Yep, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of these idiots are the same ones who hoard toilet paper and other "essentials" every time there's a lockdown. (We're both up early today... awful weather last night and again this morning, thought we'd seen the last of it).

I got up at 3am - woken by the wind and the rain.

The dumbwits calling everyone else "sheeple" are taking an actual livestock medication instead of the vaccine and when it doesn't work, or they think they're pooping rope worms but it's actually their intestinal lining they rush to the Hospital demanding everything be done to save them from COVID...

At least have the conviction in your beliefs to reject medicine all the way to the grave.

The latest trend spreading through Facebook groups and Telegram, people diluting and taking the active ingredients in RoundUp as a preventative measure against COVID.

This is going to end well...

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 7:29am:

So many idiots out there. Westmead Hospital patient overdoses on online ‘cure’ for Covid-19 A Sydney Covid patient landed themselves in hospital after overdosing on a supposed cure for the virus they discovered online. A Western Sydney Health toxicologist has issued a community warning for people not to “rely on online sham cures for Covid-19” after the patient got a stark dose of reality. The positive case presented to Westmead Hospital’s emergency department with vomiting and diarrhoea recently from an overdose of the drug ivermectin and other supposed Covid cures they ordered online. Westmead Hospital toxicologist Associate Professor Naren Gunja said the patient didn’t develop severe toxicity and was now recovering at home. But he said it also didn’t help their recovery from the virus.

Jo Rogan tested positive and is on ivermectin and Regeneron.  When he's ok since the Regeneron might actually help, it's only going to convince more of his audience to reject the vaccine and take ivermectin instead, since unlike Rogan or Trump (funded by the tax payer), they won't be able to afford it.

But the funny this is, it's only available under the Emergency Use measure via the FDA/Government, one of the reasons why Rogan refused the vaccine, which now has full approval.

Stupid people be stupid.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 1:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2021 at 7:29am: So many idiots out there. Westmead Hospital patient overdoses on online ‘cure’ for Covid-19 A Sydney Covid patient landed themselves in hospital after overdosing on a supposed cure for the virus they discovered online. A Western Sydney Health toxicologist has issued a community warning for people not to “rely on online sham cures for Covid-19” after the patient got a stark dose of reality. The positive case presented to Westmead Hospital’s emergency department with vomiting and diarrhoea recently from an overdose of the drug ivermectin and other supposed Covid cures they ordered online. Westmead Hospital toxicologist Associate Professor Naren Gunja said the patient didn’t develop severe toxicity and was now recovering at home. But he said it also didn’t help their recovery from the virus. Jo Rogan tested positive and is on ivermectin and Regeneron.  When he's ok since the Regeneron might actually help, it's only going to convince more of his audience to reject the vaccine and take ivermectin instead, since unlike Rogan or Trump (funded by the tax payer), they won't be able to afford it. But the funny this is, it's only available under the Emergency Use measure via the FDA/Government, one of the reasons why Rogan refused the vaccine, which now has full approval. Stupid people be stupid.

Grifters grift

Did you hear about the man who was hospitalised after taking ivermectin?


His condition was described as stable

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 1:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2021 at 7:29am: So many idiots out there. Westmead Hospital patient overdoses on online ‘cure’ for Covid-19 A Sydney Covid patient landed themselves in hospital after overdosing on a supposed cure for the virus they discovered online. A Western Sydney Health toxicologist has issued a community warning for people not to “rely on online sham cures for Covid-19” after the patient got a stark dose of reality. The positive case presented to Westmead Hospital’s emergency department with vomiting and diarrhoea recently from an overdose of the drug ivermectin and other supposed Covid cures they ordered online. Westmead Hospital toxicologist Associate Professor Naren Gunja said the patient didn’t develop severe toxicity and was now recovering at home. But he said it also didn’t help their recovery from the virus. Jo Rogan tested positive and is on ivermectin and Regeneron.  When he's ok since the Regeneron might actually help, it's only going to convince more of his audience to reject the vaccine and take ivermectin instead, since unlike Rogan or Trump (funded by the tax payer), they won't be able to afford it. But the funny this is, it's only available under the Emergency Use measure via the FDA/Government, one of the reasons why Rogan refused the vaccine, which now has full approval. Stupid people be stupid.

fake news

rogan had the vax

what rogan ACTUALLY said  AFTER saying he had the vax..


"People say, do you think it's safe to get vaccinated? I've said, yeah, I think for the most part it's safe to get vaccinated. I do. I do," Rogan said in an April 28 episode of the podcast.



"If you're a healthy person, and you're exercising all the time, and you're young, and you're eating well," Rogan continued, "like, I don't think you need to worry about this."

white flag accepted...how many have you handed over now