In six months....
we've gone from, the vax ending the pandemic,
to you can still get COVID even if vaxxed,
to you can pass on COVID to others even if vaxxed,
to you can still die of COVID even if vaxxed,
to the un-vaxxxed are killing the vaxxed.



WWW search....
Jesse Jackson and wife, Jacqueline, hospitalized with Covid-19

n.b.
Both Jesse Jackson and his wife were 'fully vaccinated' with Pfizer [for 7 months].


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Where is the protection, of a     REAL     vaccine ?



From the Oxford Dictionary.....

vaccinate

immunise

immune

------ >


Dictionary;
vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine     to produce immunity     against a disease.


Dictionary;
immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation.


Dictionary;
immune = =
1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
2 not susceptible.

A fate that awaits the foolishly vaccinated on this forum.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/08/22/rev-jesse-jackson-hospitalized-with-covid-19-was-vaccinated-in-january/?sh=3264d0fe3fc5


Ah, but predictably, some on social media, including anonymous accounts, used the occasion to claim that Jackson’s being hospitalized for Covid-19 shows that the Covid-19 vaccines don’t work.



Any claims that Jackson’s case “proves” that Covid-19 don’t work would be wrong, wrong as a sandpaper thong and equally irritating. Would you ever point to a leaking roof and say, “see that shows that you should never have a roof” or a rip in your pants and claim, “this PROVES that pants DO NOT WORK?”

Remember, no real medical experts have ever said that the Covid-19 vaccines would be 100% effective. The vaccines are not like full body concrete condoms. While they can significantly reduce your risk of getting severe Covid-19, getting fully vaccinated should not be a license to play Twister with strangers or to start panting on each other. As long as the virus continues to spread widely, it will be important to maintain other Covid-19 precautions, such as social distancing and face mask wearing, even if you are already fully vaccinated. While the pandemic remains a public health emergency, Covid-19 precautions are about layering on different protections, rather than just choosing one and forsaking others.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 2:31pm:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/08/22/rev-jesse-jackson-hospitalized-with-covid-19-was-vaccinated-in-january/?sh=3264d0fe3fc5 Ah, but predictably, some on social media, including anonymous accounts, used the occasion to claim that Jackson’s being hospitalized for Covid-19 shows that the Covid-19 vaccines don’t work. Any claims that Jackson’s case “proves” that Covid-19 don’t work would be wrong, wrong as a sandpaper thong and equally irritating. Would you ever point to a leaking roof and say, “see that shows that you should never have a roof” or a rip in your pants and claim, “this PROVES that pants DO NOT WORK?” Remember, no real medical experts have ever said that the Covid-19 vaccines would be 100% effective. The vaccines are not like full body concrete condoms. While they can significantly reduce your risk of getting severe Covid-19, getting fully vaccinated should not be a license to play Twister with strangers or to start panting on each other. As long as the virus continues to spread widely, it will be important to maintain other Covid-19 precautions, such as social distancing and face mask wearing, even if you are already fully vaccinated. While the pandemic remains a public health emergency, Covid-19 precautions are about layering on different protections, rather than just choosing one and forsaking others.

.....Any claims that Jackson’s case “proves” that Covid-19 don’t work would be wrong,.......
Would you ever point to a leaking roof and say, “see that shows that you should never have a roof”
or a rip in your pants and claim, “this PROVES that pants DO NOT WORK?”


bobby,

That logic would be valid, if you had 100,000 roofs on houses, and 1, or even 3 of them, leaked.

But it isn't one leak, in one roof.....


WWW search....
Israel's COVID outbreak is mostly fully vaccinated people


WWW search....
Most Covid patients at Israeli hospital fully vaccinated


And bobby, that is in     Israel,     where the vaccination rate, in all eligible individuals has surpassed 80%.



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1629355485/0#0

Quote:

QUESTION; PLEASE EXPLAIN - why are these two circumstances ['headlines'], so incongruent, in being found together ? ----- > #1, WWW search.... 2021-Aug Israel, COVID vaccination rate surpasses 80% #2, WWW search.... 2021-Aug Israel, experiencing COVID virus infection surge

Yadda wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 1:46pm:

In six months.... we've gone from, the vax ending the pandemic, to you can still get COVID even if vaxxed, to you can pass on COVID to others even if vaxxed, to you can still die of COVID even if vaxxed, to the un-vaxxxed are killing the vaxxed. WWW search.... Jesse Jackson and wife, Jacqueline, hospitalized with Covid-19 n.b. Both Jesse Jackson and his wife were 'fully vaccinated' with Pfizer [for 7 months]. . Where is the protection, of a     REAL     vaccine ? From the Oxford Dictionary..... vaccinate immunise immune ------ > Dictionary; vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine     to produce immunity     against a disease. Dictionary; immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation. Dictionary; immune = = 1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells. 2 not susceptible.

Are you old enough to remember TB shots? Or polio shots?

If so, do you know a few whose bodies did not respond to the vaccine?

No vaccine is 100% effective and our metabolisms are not the same.

And yet we live in a country whose people don't fear a TB or polio outbreak.

WWW search....
CDC Report, Vaccinated Spread COVID-19 as Easily as Unvaccinated, High Viral Loads in Vaccinated


CDC = = Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [in the USA]


AGAIN......
The U.S. CDC finds that
      1/ Vaccinated Spread COVID-19 as Easily as Unvaccinated
      2/ High Viral Loads in Vaccinated




ARGUMENT;
What practical PURPOSE, is there in getting vaccinated,
if after you do so,
YOU WILL STILL CARRY THE ACTIVE COVID VIRUS, IN YOUR BODY,
AND, IT IS PROVEN, THAT YOU WILL STILL SPREAD COVID TO OTHERS [the vaccinated, and unvaccinated]  ?? !!!!

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 4:32pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 23rd, 2021 at 1:46pm: In six months.... we've gone from, the vax ending the pandemic, to you can still get COVID even if vaxxed, to you can pass on COVID to others even if vaxxed, to you can still die of COVID even if vaxxed, to the un-vaxxxed are killing the vaxxed. WWW search.... Jesse Jackson and wife, Jacqueline, hospitalized with Covid-19 n.b. Both Jesse Jackson and his wife were 'fully vaccinated' with Pfizer [for 7 months]. . Where is the protection, of a     REAL     vaccine ? From the Oxford Dictionary..... vaccinate immunise immune ------ > Dictionary; vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine     to produce immunity     against a disease. Dictionary; immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation. Dictionary; immune = = 1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells. 2 not susceptible. Are you old enough to remember TB shots? Or polio shots? If so, do you know a few whose bodies did not respond to the vaccine? No vaccine is 100% effective and our metabolisms are not the same. And yet we live in a country whose people don't fear a TB or polio outbreak.

north,

Yes, but TODAY,      .....people who DO get vaccinated against the COVID virus,
DO NEED TO FEAR, STILL GETTING COVID, AND 'COMING DOWN' WITH THE COVID SYMPTOMS.

That is the difference.

The COVID vaccine appears to be     very hit-and-miss     as to     if-and-when,    and in whom, it will work.

The current crop of COVID vaccines, seen to have no consistent efficacy,
if we look at the results in those people who have been vaccinated !!!

And that is the problem.

Yadda wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 4:17pm:

That logic would be valid, if you had 100,000 roofs on houses, and 1, or even 3 of them, leaked. [/highlight]

try getting a roof repair guy on the gold coast ... they can't keep up repairing all the leaking roofs