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Message started by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am

Title: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else :(


Quote:
Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers

A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.

The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally.

The paper’s authors, Chau et al, demonstrated widespread vaccine failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam.

The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.

They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another.

This is consistent with the observations in the U.S. from Farinholt and colleagues, and congruent with comments by the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conceding COVID-19 vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.   

On Feb. 11, the World Health Organization indicated the AZD1222 vaccine efficacy of 63.09% against the development of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020.

Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.

Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.

Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients.

Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers.


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2a8cae2f-18f9-48b2-ab50-39686590e40e


Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

If by useless you mean about 70-75% effective

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 2:33pm

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

If by useless you mean about 70-75% effective


you really believe your own bullshit mucus :D LOL

come on where's groggary and dumbarse smith :D LOL

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 24th, 2021 at 3:00pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

If by useless you mean about 70-75% effective


you really believe your own bullshit mucus :D LOL

come on where's groggary and dumbarse smith :D LOL



By bullshit you mean published peer reviewed.


Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Gordon on Aug 24th, 2021 at 3:21pm
Nail, do you realise you're spreading fake news probably generated by state sponsored Russian/Chinese troll farms?

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 24th, 2021 at 6:31pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 3:21pm:
Nail, do you realise you're spreading fake news probably generated by state sponsored Russian/Chinese troll farms?


why because it doesn't agree with you :D LOL

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Belgarion on Aug 24th, 2021 at 7:12pm
The OP does not quite grasp the fact that according to his own source vaccinated people are carrying the virus with no problems. It's the unvaccinated who have issues.  ::)

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by tickleandrose on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:16pm
The article highlights a few important points.
1. Coronavirus is real, and its measurable.
2. The vaccine does work, to reduce the mortality amoung front line health workers. 
3. The health workers tirelessly and bravely fought against the virus to save people just like me and you.  They are like angels who know they are risking their own lives, working overtime, facing an environment with far more viral load than out in the public.
4. Such bravery, such sacrifice, and yet here you are... whining about getting vaccinated, trying to find any excuse not to do your bit to help relieve at least some of their burden and load. 
5. You talk about your own personal freedom being taking away.  How about the freedoms of those healthcare workers?  All you had to do is to social distance, wear mask, and get vaccinated, they had to do all of that, and not able to see their family, or have a break. 

Think about it. 

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 25th, 2021 at 8:25am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta


You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills :( I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines :D LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you :D LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.




Immunise we are aussies. Secondly the delta variant has the same spike protein that the original had. So immunisation shjould wrk

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02039-y

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 25th, 2021 at 9:10am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else :(


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2a8cae2f-18f9-48b2-ab50-39686590e40e



Sir Chemtrails has given up on quoting "fake science" web sites
- and now relies on religious nut-jobs to back his conspiracy theories

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr







Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else :(


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2a8cae2f-18f9-48b2-ab50-39686590e40e



Sir Chemtrails has given up on quoting "fake science" web sites
- and now relies on religious nut-jobs to back his conspiracy theories

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr




shooting the messenger again instead of addressing the points made in the article :D LOL

It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:20am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:
It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL




Ah the irony of someone pointing out education, but failing to use you're correctly.

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:24am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else :(


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2a8cae2f-18f9-48b2-ab50-39686590e40e



Sir Chemtrails has given up on quoting "fake science" web sites
- and now relies on religious nut-jobs to back his conspiracy theories

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr




shooting the messenger again instead of addressing the points made in the article :D LOL

It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL




Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:37am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:20am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:
It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL




Ah the irony of someone pointing out education, but failing to use you're correctly.


I make many mistakes in my rush to post and will probably make many more. Good to see you refute the points made in that article. Keep up the good work mucus ;)

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:24am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else :(


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2a8cae2f-18f9-48b2-ab50-39686590e40e



Sir Chemtrails has given up on quoting "fake science" web sites
- and now relies on religious nut-jobs to back his conspiracy theories

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr




shooting the messenger again instead of addressing the points made in the article :D LOL

It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL




Another one who has got nothing of value to add as usual :D LOL

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:50am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:37am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:20am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:
It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL




Ah the irony of someone pointing out education, but failing to use you're correctly.


I make many mistakes in my rush to post and will probably make many more.


Indeed, you do.

Being an ill-informed anti-vaxxer who relies on TikTok videos for scientific information is probably your biggest mistake.


Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by John Dillermand on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:56am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:37am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:20am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:
It takes an educated person to refute that article so I guess your out :D LOL




Ah the irony of someone pointing out education, but failing to use you're correctly.


I make many mistakes in my rush to post and will probably make many more. Good to see you refute the points made in that article. Keep up the good work mucus ;)


Spelling mistakes are one thing, but grammar another. It also speaks to your ability to fact check.

Title: Re: Vaxed Healthcare Workers Carry 251x Viral Load
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 25th, 2021 at 12:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 10:16am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else :(


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2a8cae2f-18f9-48b2-ab50-39686590e40e



Sir Chemtrails has given up on quoting "fake science" web sites
- and now relies on religious nut-jobs to back his conspiracy theories

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr




shooting the messenger again instead of addressing the points made in the article :D LOL



There WERE no "points made in the article"
It was a piece of fiction
- from beginning to end
- via an anti-vaxxing, faux-christian  web-site




You know, if you quoted from LEGITIMATE news pages
- you may one day be taken a little more SERIOUSLY









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