Which birds to you consider ʇᴉɥS?

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Indian Myna

https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/62066/indian-myna.pdf

Too late to take action now but I prefer this MRB be suitable for reading by all ages. If that is too hard then take your post elsewhere.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 9:52pm:

Indian Myna https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/62066/indian-myna.pdf

We can add Starlings and Pigeons to the list.

Monkey man being from the climate change religion might be against trapping then gassing them with CO2 maybe he prefers shooting them with air rifles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2RV3mB89ss

Modern air rifles are pretty good perhaps if we're allowed to shoot cane toads with them as well in urban areas we could reduce their numers.

It gets expensive shooting toads with .204 ruger as least there isn't much to pick up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpx8EYstUug

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2021 at 3:20pm:

Too late to take action now but I prefer this MRB be suitable for reading by all ages. If that is too hard then take your post elsewhere.

Clutching your pearls again Monk.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2021 at 9:53pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:52pm: Indian Myna https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/62066/indian-myna.pdf We can add Starlings and Pigeons to the list. Monkey man being from the climate change religion might be against trapping then gassing them with CO2 maybe he prefers shooting them with air rifles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2RV3mB89ss Modern air rifles are pretty good perhaps if we're allowed to shoot cane toads with them as well in urban areas we could reduce their numers. It gets expensive shooting toads with .204 ruger as least there isn't much to pick up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpx8EYstUug

Pigeons for sure.

AiA wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2021 at 11:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 3:20pm: Too late to take action now but I prefer this MRB be suitable for reading by all ages. If that is too hard then take your post elsewhere. Clutching your pearls again Monk.

Just pretend you are a decent person when posting in this MRB, OK?

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 6:35am:

AiA wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 11:12pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 3:20pm: Too late to take action now but I prefer this MRB be suitable for reading by all ages. If that is too hard then take your post elsewhere. Clutching your pearls again Monk. Just pretend you are a decent person when posting in this MRB, OK?

As a decent person, you may want to consider it may be your chronic pearl-clutching that gets you suspended again and again ...

Nah, FD is hoping I will delete all posts here if he gives me enough bullshit bans.

So when you post here pretend to be a decent person instead of a grub.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 8:56am:

Nah, FD is hoping I will delete all posts here if he gives me enough bullshit bans. So when you post here pretend to be a decent person instead of a grub.

The only thing indecent about this thread is you ...

Good thread about annoying birds, and not all critters are so lovely!

My dislike are——-  cockatoos.

Because, some decades earlier, there was a drought somewhere in Vic and they all came to my area and have not left!

Our apple orchard has never produced apples since, because they come and pick them off before ripeness, eat a bit then chuck them on the ground.

And …. Yes we have tried many different techniques to shoo them away.
My best technique was the fake hawk in a bendy white pole. But after 2 weeks they all got cluey and defied my fake hawk  :-[

Same thing in Adelaide.

You have to net trees. This means the trees have to be kept small.

1. Plant a whip (branchless sapling) or feather (sapling with some (small) branches then cut it 45cm from the ground. The scaffold branches on which everything else grows then form close to the ground.

Alternatively, espalier the trees, train the branches to 1 or 2 wires.

Use semi dwarf trees not dwarf trees for better vigor, disease resistance etc.

2. Prune for size in summer. Prune lightly in winter for shape, to remove branches that cross another, to remove diseased branches etc

This way you can keep the apple and most other trees (not apricot tho) to say 2m height (and 4m around) and can net them.

There are other ways to keep trees small enough that you can prune, spray, pick and net with both feet firmly on the ground.

One is by close planting. Plant 3 similar trees—3 types of cherry, of European plums or three Janpanese plums or 3 types of peach trees in a triangle with each tree 45cm from the next. Root competition will keep the trees small.

Or plant them in a row with 45cm spacings. Don’t mix apple, plum, cherry etc, use similar types of trees, varieties can differ.

As well as saving space it means that in a space about that of one full grown tree you can have early, mid and late season peaches.

Prune to keep the centre of the 3 trees empty of branches and leaves (easier to do in winter) so air and light can reach all parts of your trees.

Plant the trees over 9m from your house—you have an excellent ember-catching, fire resistant barrier to bushfires!

Pigeons that served during War & awarded the Animal VC the Dicken Medal.


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White Vision Pigeon – SURP.41.L.3089 Date of Award: 2 December 1943 “For delivering a message under exceptionally difficult conditions and so contributing to the rescue of an Air Crew while serving with the RAF in October 1943.” Winkie Pigeon – NEHU.40.NS.1 Date of Award: 2 December 1943 “For delivering a message under exceptionally difficult conditions and so contributing to the rescue of an Air Crew while serving with the RAF in February, 1942.” Tyke (also known as George) Pigeon – Number 1263 MEPS 43 Date of Award: 2 December 1943 “For delivering a message under exceptionally difficult conditions and so contributing to the rescue of an Air Crew, while serving with the RAF in the Mediterranean in June, 1943.” Beach Comber Pigeon – NPS.41.NS.4230 Date of Award: 6 March 1944 “For bringing the first news to this country of the landing at Dieppe, under hazardous conditions in September, 1942, while serving with the Canadian Army.” Gustav Pigeon – NPS.42.31066 Date of Award: 1 September 1944 “For delivering the first message from the Normandy Beaches from a ship off the beach-head while serving with the RAF on 6 June 1944.” Paddy Pigeon – NPS.43.9451 Date of Award: 1 September 1944 “For the best recorded time with a message from the Normandy Operations, while serving with the RAF in June, 1944.” Kenley Lass Pigeon – NURP.36.JH.190 Date of Award: March 1945 “For being the first pigeon to be used with success for secret communications from an Agent in enemy-occupied France while serving with the NPS in October 1940.” Navy Blue Pigeon – NPS.41.NS.2862 Date of Award: March 1945 “For delivering an important message from a Raiding Party on the West Coast of France, although injured, while serving with the RAF in June, 1944. Flying Dutchman Pigeon – NPS.42.NS.44802 Date of Award: March 1945 “For successfully delivering messages from Agents in Holland on three occasions. Missing on fourth mission, while serving with the RAF in 1944.” Dutch Coast Pigeon – NURP.41. A.2164 Date of Award: March 1945 “For delivering an SOS from a ditched Air Crew close to the enemy coast 288 miles distance in 7½ hours, under unfavourable conditions, while serving with the RAF in April 1942.” Commando Pigeon – NURP.38.EGU.242 Date of Award: March 1945 “For successfully delivering messages from Agents in Occupied France on three occasions: twice under exceptionally adverse conditions, while serving with the NPS in 1942.” Royal Blue Pigeon – NURP.40.GVIS.453 Date of award: March 1945 “For being the first pigeon in this war to deliver a message from a forced landed aircraft on the Continent while serving with the RAF in October, 1940.” Ruhr Express Pigeon – NPS.43.29018 Date of Award: May 1945 “For carrying an important message from the Ruhr Pocket in excellent time, while serving with the RAF in April, 1945.” William of Orange Pigeon – NPS.42.NS.15125 Date of Award: May 1945 “For delivering a message from the Arnheim Airborne Operation in record time for any single pigeon, while serving with the APS in September 1944.” Scotch Lass Pigeon – NPS.42.21610 Date of Award: June 1945 “For bringing 38 microphotographs across the North Sea in good time although injured, while serving with the RAF in Holland in September 1944.” Billy Pigeon – NU.41.HQ.4373 Date of Award: August 1945 “For delivering a message from a force-landed bomber, while in a state of complete collapse and under exceptionally bad weather conditions, while serving with the RAF in 1942.” Broad Arrow Pigeon – 41.BA.2793 Date of Award: October 1945 “For bringing important messages three times from enemy occupied country, viz: May 1943, June 1943 and August 1943, while serving with the Special Service from the Continent.” Pigeon – NPS.42.NS.2780 Date of Award: October 1945 “For bringing important messages three times from enemy occupied country, viz: July 1942, August 1942 and April 1943, while serving with the Special Service from the Continent.” Pigeon – NPS.42.NS.7524 Date of Award: October 1945 “For bringing important messages three times from enemy-occupied country, viz: July 1942, May 1943 and July 1943, while serving with the Special Service from the continent.” Maquis Pigeon – NPSNS.42.36392 Date of Award: October 1945 “For bringing important messages three times from enemy occupied country, viz: May 1943 (Amiens) February, 1944 (Combined Operations) and June, 1944 (French Maquis) while serving with the Special Service from the Continent.” Mary Pigeon – NURP.40.WCE.249 Date of Award: November 1945 “For outstanding endurance on War Service in spite of wounds. Tommy Pigeon – NURP.41.DHZ56 Date of Award: February 1946 “For delivering a valuable message from Holland to Lancashire under difficult conditions, while serving with NPS in July 1942.” All Alone Pigeon – NURP.39.SDS.39 Date of Award: February 1946 “For delivering an important message in one day over a distance of 400 miles, while serving with the NPS in August, 1943.” Princess Pigeon – 42WD593 Date of Award: May 1946 “Sent on special mission to Crete, this pigeon returned to her loft (RAF Alexandria) having travelled about 500 miles mostly over sea, with most valuable information. One of the finest performances in the war record of the Pigeon Service.”

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Mercury Pigeon – NURP.37.CEN.335 Date of Award: August 1946 “For carrying out a special task involving a flight of 480 miles from Northern Denmark while serving with the Special Section Army Pigeon Service in July 1942.” Pigeon – NURP.38.BPC.6. Date of Award: August 1946 “For three outstanding flights from France while serving with the Special Section, Army Pigeon Service, 11 July 1941, 9 September 1941, and 29 November 1941.” GI Joe Pigeon – USA43SC6390 Date of Award: August 1946 “This bird is credited with making the most outstanding flight by a USA Army Pigeon in World War II. Making the 20 mile flight from British 10th Army HQ, in the same number of minutes, it brought a message which arrived just in time to save the lives of at least 100 Allied soldiers from being bombed by their own planes.” Read more Duke of Normandy Pigeon – NURP.41.SBC.219 Date of Award: 8 January 1947 “For being the first bird to arrive with a message from Paratroops of 21st Army Group behind enemy lines on D Day 6 June, 1944, while serving with APS.” Pigeon – NURP.43.CC.1418 Date of Award: 8 January 1947 “For the fastest flight with message from 6th Airborne Div. Normandy, 7 June, 1944, while serving with APS.” Pigeon – DD.43.T.139 (Australian Army Signal Corps) Date of award: February 1947 “During a heavy tropical storm this bird was released from Army Boat 1402 which had foundered on Wadou Beach in the Huon Gulf. Homing 40 miles to Madang it brought a message which enabled a rescue ship to be sent in time to salvage the craft and its valuable cargo of stores and ammunition.” Pigeon – DD.43.Q.879 (Australian Army Signal Corps) Date of award: February 1947 “During an attack by Japanese on a US Marine patrol on Manus Island, pigeons were released to warn headquarters of an impending enemy counter-attack. Two were shot down but DD43 despite heavy fire directed at it reached HQ with the result that enemy concentrations were bombed and the patrol extricated.” Cologne Pigeon - NURP39.NPS.144 Date of Award: unknown “For homing from a crashed aircraft over Cologne although seriously wounded, while serving with the RAF in 1943.”

https://www.pdsa.org.uk/what-we-do/animal-awards-programme/pdsa-dickin-medal

And also...

Cher Ami


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On October 3, 1918, Major Charles White Whittlesey and more than 550 men were trapped in a small depression on the side of the hill behind enemy lines without food or ammunition. They were also beginning to receive friendly fire from allied troops who did not know their location. Surrounded by the Germans, many were killed and wounded and only 194 men were still alive and not captured or wounded by the end of the engagement. Because his runners were consistently intercepted or killed by the Germans, Whittlesey began dispatching messages by pigeon.[3] The pigeon carrying the first message, "Many wounded. We cannot evacuate." was shot down. A second bird was sent with the message, "Men are suffering. Can support be sent?" That pigeon also was shot down. The artillery batteries supporting Whittlesey's men attempted to provide a "barrage of protection" for Whittlesey's men on the northern slope of the Charlevaux Ravine, but believed Whittlesey was on the southern slope of the ravine, resulting in a barrage inadvertently targeting the battalion,[4]"Cher Ami" was dispatched with a note, written on onion paper, in a canister on his right leg, We are along the road paralell [sic] to 276.4. Our own artillery is dropping a barrage directly on us. For heavens sake stop it. As Cher Ami tried to fly back home, the Germans saw him rising out of the brush and opened fire.[5] After several seconds, he was shot down but managed to take flight again. He arrived back at his loft at division headquarters 25 miles (40 km) to the rear in just 25 minutes, helping to save the lives of the 194 survivors. He had been shot through the breast, blinded in one eye, and had a leg hanging only by a tendon. Cher Ami became the hero of the 77th Infantry Division. Army medics worked to save his life. When he recovered enough to travel, the now one-legged bird was put on a boat to the United States, with General John J. Pershing seeing him off.

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The pigeon was awarded the Croix de Guerre Medal with a palm Oak Leaf Cluster for his heroic service in delivering 12 important messages in Verdun. He died at Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, on June 13, 1919 from the wounds he received in battle and was later inducted into the Racing Pigeon Hall of Fame in 1931. He also received a gold medal from the Organized Bodies of American Racing Pigeon Fanciers in recognition of his service during World War I.[6] In November 2019, he became one of the first winners of the Animals in War & Peace Medal of Bravery, bestowed on him posthumously at ceremony on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Ami

Pigeons aren't shyte birds ....

along with the fact that if you were starving you could eat them.

Carrier pigeons became extinct because they were shot out & eaten.

Thought you might post in reply  :)

Starlings are noisy, eat grain and fruit but also insects:


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Large flocks typical of this species can be beneficial to agriculture by controlling invertebrate pests; however, starlings can also be pests themselves when they feed on fruit and sprouting crops. Common starlings may also be a nuisance through the noise and mess caused by their large urban roosts. Introduced populations in particular have been subjected to a range of controls, including culling, but these have had limited success, except in preventing the colonisation of Western Australia. The species has declined in numbers in parts of northern and western Europe since the 1980s due to fewer grassland invertebrates being available as food for growing chicks. Despite this, its huge global population is not thought to be declining significantly, so the common starling is classified as being of Least Concern by the International Union for Conservation of Nature.

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