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Title: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm
Does anyone here still believe in the power of prayer?
Am I the only person left on this seriously God forsaken website who still believes in praying for our families, friends and each other? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 2:10pm
Not since I was 10 years old.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 2:26pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Don't worry Lisa, with you and I together we will whip all the Godless heathens here into shape. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 3:09pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
And why would the God of universal love desert this website? Because most of us ignore Matthew Ch 22: V 37 ? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 3:53pm Of course we must pray to God. But whose prayers, does He hear ? God says, that he will not hear the pleading of some people. Why so ? Is God an unrighteous God ? No. Is our God a cruel God ? No. It is all in the Bible. ...aka, God's Word. He begs us..... Isaiah 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Why ? Isaiah 65:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: Why ? Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Why ? Jeremiah 6:17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken. Why ? Jeremiah 6:19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it. Why ? Jeremiah 7:26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. 27 Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. . God's people. Who are they ? What will they enjoy ? Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. Isaiah 65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. Isaiah 66:5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. God isn't cruel, or, unjust. He has told us, again, and again, that he will give us, according to our works. What will Jesus do ? Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And who was SATAN angry with ? There is no SATAN ? Really ! .....a lot of people alive today don't believe that he is [a real spirit]. Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Why, ....does SATAN make war against them ? It is all in God's Word. . Malachi 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God**: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts? 15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered. 16 Then they that feared the LORD*** spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. 17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. 18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. ** Who has said that ? Anyone you know ? :P *** Who ? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:04pm I can't name one 'social media' platform.... Well, maybe i can name two. Twitter. FaceBook. But there must be dozens of them. !!!! Right ???? So, so many people in the world today, and they all want to be popular, on 'social media' platforms. So, so much !! And a majority of them would love, to have a huge global following. To be popular, WITH EVERYONE. Wouldn't they ????? :o .....all of those 'precious', fragile, 'snowflake', lemmings. That is what they are ! . Me ? I just want to be popular with God, ....and Jesus. :P |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jim Lahey on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:09pm
you might as well believe in god Jones, you make up all sorts of other fantasy poo so might as well add another
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:38pm Jim Lahey wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:09pm:
Both believers and atheists are self congratulatory egotists believing with absolute certainty they, and they alone, know ’the truth’ when the truth could be more than any human mind could ever contain. The black hole of human arrogance is - - - - - - - - |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:55pm
"We have no symbolic life, and we are all badly in need of the symbolic life. Only the symbolic life can express the need of the soul; the daily need of the soul, mind you! And because people have no such thing, they can never step out of this mill, this awful, banal grinding life in which they are "nothing but".
Everything is banal; everything is "nothing but," and that is the reason why people are neurotic. They are simply sick of the whole thing, sick of that banal life, and therefore they want sensation. They even want a war, they all want a war, they are all glad when there is a war, they say, "Thank heaven, now something is going to happen - something bigger than ourselves!" These things go pretty deep, and no wonder people get neurotic. Life is too rational; there is no symbolic existence in which I am something else, in which I am fulfilling my role, my role as one of the actors in the divine drama of life." C.G. Jung, CW 18, The Symbolic Life, Chapter III There is no god OUTSIDE everything that IS, playing dice with what IS. So prayer is not speaking to a god outside ALL (which cannot possibly exist) but, rather, is a speaking INTO the world (in which god dwells, to speak poeto-mystically) Is there value in speaking into the world? Of course there is. Is that prayer? Well, no. It's still good, though, if done well: Spinoza writes: “Whatever is, is in God, and nothing can exist or be conceived without God.” Throughout his text, Spinoza was keen to undermine the idea of prayer. In prayer, an individual appeals to God to change the way the universe works. But Spinoza argues that this is entirely the wrong way around. The task of human beings is to try to understand how and why things are the way they are – and then accept it, rather than protest at the workings of existence by sending little messages up into the sky. As Spinoza put it, beautifully but rather caustically: “Whosoever loves God cannot strive that God should love him in return.” In other words, only naive (but perhaps rather touching) narcissism would lead someone at once to believe in a God who made the eternal laws of physics and then to imagine that this same God would take an interest in bending the rules of existence to improve his or her life in some way. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:25pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:04pm:
Dear Yadda, you truly are a defender of the faith. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Belgarion on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:51pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Prayer can be a very powerful thing. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:58pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
The right-wing Ozpoliticians do get on their knees, but its not for praying. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:10pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:58pm:
LTYC - you lost soul - repent for the end is nigh. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:13pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 2:10pm:
Why? Did something happen then to stop you believing in prayer? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:13pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:58pm:
Mothra |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:19pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:13pm:
I used my brain. Time for you to do the same and not for fantasy bullshit either. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:23pm Belgarion wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:51pm:
I'm finding it next to impossible to pray for anyone who posts on OzPit. I just can't. I look at what they post and I think there's no way that person deserves my prayer. And it upsets me that I can't pray for them. I do however find myself praying for their families because I feel sorry for them. How do women and children live with some of the disturbed cyber multi trolls who live here 24/7 under so many fake aliases? Behind all these multi troll cyber junkie ids which come online to flame and troll there's a real disturbed individual who clearly isn't coping with real life. And the collateral damage is borne by the women and children who are around them. That totally breaks my heart! These women and kids deserve better. So yeah I pray for these individuals. I pray that angels come to encourage them, comfort them and protect them. This is how I pray for all my kids actually. My neighbours and colleagues etc. I just can't pray for the posters who I see on OzPol addicted to multi trolling and flaming. 😩 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:23pm Some men have concluded, that; "This life is a search for meaning." For myself, i recognise that the Jewish Tanakh and the Christian scriptures, are [human] documents which contain lots, and lots, of affirmations. Affirmations which help my psyche to grasp-hold-of, 'some' meaning, in this life. affirmation = = 1. the act of affirming or the state of being affirmed; assertion. 2. something declared to be true; a positive statement or judgment. 3. a statement intended to provide encouragement, emotional support, or motivation, especially when used for the purpose of autosuggestion. 4. the assertion that the testimony one gives is true and equivalent to that which would be given while under oath. AND YET.... Some [or many !] persons [in human culture in this 'modern age'] do not care for many of those particular 'affirmations', which can be found everywhere, within the Jewish Tanakh and within Christian scriptures. AND YET.... But, along with many, many other persons alive today, i do. How so ? Because for me [and those other individuals, i assume] those scriptures, when we examine them, present to us, 'an answer' to "our search for meaning", as individuals. . Just a few, positive affirmations. Psalms 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. . Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 4:55pm:
frank, I'm one of those 'naive persons' [even a little narcissistic ? [smile] ], because does love those who do love Him [i.e. love God's righteous character]. ....even, as a parent, would love his child. Leviticus 26:9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you. 10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new. 11 And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. 12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. 13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright. 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. And many more scriptures. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:24pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:23pm:
imaginary prayer for imaginary families it works. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:25pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:19pm:
You used your brain at age 10. You do realise that the frontal lobe of your brain which governs high level logic and reasoning isn't fully developed until 25 ... yes? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:26pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 7:25pm:
Why, thank you bobby. .....i think ! :) ;D |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:29pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:26pm:
Thanks Yadda, will you join with Lisa and I in seeking salvation for all the lost souls at Ozpolitic? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:31pm John Smith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:24pm:
Your kids are imaginary now? Well guess what Frodo....your kids are some of the kids I pray for! You've left a terrible trail of damage and your 3 kids deserve better! I just can't pray for you. I know exactly what you are. It's like I'm being asked to pray for the Devil. It vexes my spirit. As a wife and as a mother it absolutely vexes my heart and soul. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:35pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:29pm:
It's the real families behind these disturbed cyber multi trolls who need our prayers Bobby. The women and the children who are unfortunate to be around them. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:38pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:35pm:
dear Lisa, But God has infinite mercy - even people like Monk and Smith can still be saved if we can encourage them to repent. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:39pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:31pm:
whats imaginary is the ex and kids you claim I have. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:42pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:38pm:
These people are beyond help. Frodo in particular! He's an absolute dead beat of a dad! Those poor kids deserve better! I thought Monk may have been (given he's as old as my parents who are no longer with us). I realise now I was wrong about him too. You get to the point in life where you give up on certain people and just move on. They no longer matter. At all. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:44pm I pray to my God every day [at least once]. I pray to my God every day, and i ask his spirit to guide me. I thank my God every day, that his spirit has led me to find the blessings which i enjoy in my life. I pray to my God every day and i ask the spirit of God, to protect me, in my daily life. The God of Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:45pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:42pm:
Jesus never gave up on anyone - even the 2 thieves beside him on the cross were saved. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:47pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:44pm:
Yadda Ohhh you're just so lovely. I wish you lived near me so I could pray with you every day. I miss my dad. I'm sure he would have been like you. 🤗 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:48pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:44pm:
i try to guide you but you don't listen ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:49pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:45pm:
No Bobby. That's where you're wrong. Only 1 sinner was saved. Even there. One man died an unbeliever whilst in the process of dying. He adamantly refused salvation. (Bobby....I know the Bible back to front. I taught scripture for many years. And I was a Youth Group Leader at church). It's not all about knowledge though. It's about faith. I guess I'm slowly accepting that many people here aren't worth it. They're lost souls living lost lives and they have no hope. No hope in this life and no hope after this life. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:10pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:45pm:
"The Penitent Thief, also known as the Good Thief, Wise Thief, Grateful Thief or the Thief on the Cross, is one of two unnamed thieves in Luke's account of the crucifixion of Jesus in the New Testament. The Gospel of Luke describes him asking Jesus to "remember him" when Jesus arrives at his kingdom. The other, as the impenitent thief, challenges Jesus to save himself and both of them to prove that he is the Messiah." |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:16pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:10pm:
Dear Lisa, I stand corrected. I always thought they were both saved. :-[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penitent_thief |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:17pm John Smith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 8:48pm:
How about you guide your troll arse out of this topic and get it back to the one that's exposing your sordid mess of a life instead! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:18pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:17pm:
no clients tonight lisa? ;D |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:26pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:16pm:
No!!! It's important to note that when Jesus lay dying on the cross even then only 1 CHOSE to believe. That thief was saved. The other one was exactly like Frodo and Monk. Even at Death's door....they will CHOOSE to die in total and complete unbelief. And that will be their last wrong decision in this life. And the consequences of course will be eternally devastating. I'll be honest with you Bobby....I don't believe they deserve Heaven. A permanent ban from there is their well earned reward. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:27pm John Smith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:18pm:
Frodo! Bingo! That's exactly what you used to post on Yahoo as Frodo. Then the guys would rip into you there until you ran away crying like the little dwarf sook you always were. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:31pm Repentance in men and women, today, where is it ? If we will repent to the spirit of God, in our heart, God has promised that He will do His part, for every one of us. It does not matter, what life we have lived in the past. What matters to God, is, do we have the spirit of repentance in our heart, today. Do we acknowledge, that we have made many mistakes in our lives ? If we can, if we will, .....God has promised that He will do His part, for every one of us. Isaiah 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? You, are, the 'house of Israel' [God's people] if you seek to please God. If the word 'Israel', is a stumbling block for you, .....you need to overcome it ! Israel, isn't Jews, it isn't Christians. It is those persons who choose to love God [i.e. love God's righteous character]. It is all in the Bible. ...aka, God's Word. 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. Do you reject that ? Well, i am sorry for you. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:35pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:26pm:
No one deserves to burn forever in hellfire and damnation - I will try to save them. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:37pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:31pm:
Dear Yadda, keep up the good work. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:47pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:37pm:
Yep Yadda is a lovely guy. (Frodo is John Smith and Rhino. He uses both ids to talk to each other. He did the same on Yahoo and got caught out) (LTYC is Mothra...hence the insanity) NB Neither work/have worked in over 20 years. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:59pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:
What utter nonsense! You have to be on some drug! Stop taking it and stay away from the computer for a while! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:11pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:
Thank you Lisa. But i see myself, as just another flawed human being, ...seeking to be redeemed by God. I hope for it. ....and i have confidence in it. And, i read the bible. It is all in the Bible. ...aka, God's Word. The Bible. ...God's Word, ....is a document which i find is full of helpful, encouraging, affirmations. :) ;) . "The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible." - Dwight L. Moody (American Evangelist, 1837-1899) "When people stop believing in God, they do not believe in nothing. They believe in anything." - G.K. Chesterton |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:12pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:35pm:
Nope. Many deserve such a fate. And I'm not just referring to the unhinged cyber troll Monks and Frodos of today. Hitler Stalin Anyone who has raped a child Etc. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:17pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:11pm:
It's taken me so long to realise who the believing good hearted people are on this forum. Yadda ...you're definitely one of them. Thank you for making me smile. Bobby is another decent and respectful guy who believes in God. And in the power of prayer. Sprint is yet another. Hence why we even have this forum to chat about such things. I don't think there's anyone else on OzPit. It's just us. The rest are basically well ... a lost cause 😩 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:12pm:
They do but Monk, Smith and a few others are possessed by demons so it's not their fault. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by rhino on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:43pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:17pm:
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:44pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm:
Bobby, WE, have power over demons. Demons, DO NOT have power over us, ....UNLESS WE CHOOSE, TO SURRENDER OUR POWER TO THEM. . John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Zechariah 1:3 ....Turn ye unto me, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will turn unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. Malachi 3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts..... James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. .....and SATAN's demons too. James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 11:00pm
Dear Yadda,
watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg5M1Qk_M8 A priest in the U.S. is one of the world's few Vatican-trained exorcists. Here he speaks about some of his most haunting experiences, and why he believes exorcisms are on the rise today. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 11:22pm @ Reply #49, bobby, I didn't watch the YT. I can [am able to choose to] scare away demons, through the power of God [not my power]. I've done it [some years ago now] ! ....when a real, 'manifesting', demon was 'troubling' me, as i was still awaking from sleep. That demon [which was a spirit] was trying to terrify me. ....it was intentionally trying to frighten me. And, i remember that as it was happening, that i realised, that that, was what it was trying to do - to frighten me. And i somehow knew, that i simply needed to call on the name of God. And as i did so, that demon fled from my presence, INSTANTLY. I could almost not believe, how instantly, that [very real] demon departed from my presence !!! Wow ! God loves me ! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 11:35pm Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 11:22pm:
Some people need an exorcism. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:44am Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm:
How comforting for you to imagine demons are responsible for all those nasty urges that cross your mind. Your religion has yet to explain away how a God possessing omniscience could knowingly allow such a being to come into existence. Was your deity bored, stupid or just simply perverse ? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:48am
It wasn’t prayer got rid of Hitler but big armies.
Stalin died of old age. Slavery lasted in the US from the 1600s until 1865—it was Union armies ended slavery, not the prayers of the slaves and abolitionists. Prayer is crap, self delusion that god exists. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:01am Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:44am:
I don't know but demons do exist: Vatican exorcist reveals his most haunting experiences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg5M1Qk_M8 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:02am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:48am:
Monk - you are possessed by demons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg5M1Qk_M8 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:19am
Can’t refute what I said, as usual.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:42am Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 10:27pm:
I beg to differ. Never assume that humans have no agency. They do. God created humans with free will remember. Our original parents used that free will to their detriment. And ours. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 24th, 2021 at 9:48am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:42am:
If such a God exists, he/she/it has played a very dirty game. Divine omniscience this deity is supposed to be equiped with means the eternal past and eternal future can hold no surprises. Hence either free will can never exist or your so called God knowingly set up the fall to sadistically amuse himself/herself/itself. The only alternative you have is in denying God’s omniscience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 24th, 2021 at 9:58am
WTF pray tell? God created coitus?
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:12am Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 9:58am:
Mothra. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:15am Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 9:48am:
1. I don't need to refer to Wiki about God. 2. And your argument is flawed. 3. You're shopping online for excuses not to believe in God. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:21am
Lisa Moans cannot refute the argument of Ayn Marx. Cute. Is religion another affectation?
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:16pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:15am:
How comforting not to need to consult Wiki about the Almighty. I’ve had no need to ’shop online' for excuses not to believe in God having been an agnostic since my mid teens, many decades before the web existed. My argument is flawed? Well that’s a seriously damaging refutation. You may comfort your delusions with a prayerful reading of 2nd Corinthians Ch 4: V 3-4. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:22pm
Lisa Jones spends a lot of time on her knees.
However, she is too otherwise-occupied to think of god. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:36pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:16pm:
I think both your arguments are flawed because you both imagine god as a being radically and completely OUTSIDE the world, that is, outside Being - an obvious contradiction an absurdity. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:44pm Frank wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:36pm:
The existence of God in a world in which Frank exists is an absurdity. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:48pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:22pm:
LTYC is also possessed by demons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg5M1Qk_M8 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 24th, 2021 at 1:03pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
Lisa's lot? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 24th, 2021 at 1:27pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 12:44pm:
You underestimate the power of you know who - - - - - the Church’s convenient explanation for their God’s imperfections. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 24th, 2021 at 2:09pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 9:27pm:
I'm sure you hear that regularly from lots of people . You had the chance to prove your claim but you ran away .... now take your medication and shut up |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 2:22pm John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 2:09pm:
Hi John, is what Lisa said true? Lisa Quote:
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 24th, 2021 at 2:29pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 2:22pm:
the offers open to you any time you want to test your theory goober. You can be a gutless crunt and run away, or you can put your money where your mouth is. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:31pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 1:03pm:
No Mothra. That's your lot. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 2:22pm:
My oath it's true. The non child support paying dead beat dad is online FULL TIME to get out of paying back what rightfully belongs to his 3 kids. He won't come to the police station with any amount of money because he hasn't got any money left after booze and drugs. Meantime I'm ready to turn up with 20 K. And I'll meet him inside the foyer of a police station this coming Saturday morning before noon. I want ALL CCTV footage on the bludger. Yep all cameras will be on him. He won't come though because he knows he'll be arrested on the spot for producing that type of cash when he doesn't earn a cent and lives off Centrelink. 21 years he's been playing this game. Ripping off taxpayers. The mother of his 3 kids hasn't stopped telling me all his sordid games trying to get out of paying his fair share for the children he's brought into this world. Anyway. The moment he turns up with said money I will have given my 20 grand to the cops to give to his 3 abandoned kids. And IF he turns up ....he'll be the skinny dwarf with old clothes and nothing in his pockets. Either way I want him to meet me WITH my husband and to see me hand over 20 grand to the cops to then give to his 3 kids. Will that make him ashamed? Certainly not! He's financially and ethically bankrupt. Which brings me back to this topic Bobby....I can't pray for dead beat door bludging dads. I can only bring myself to pray for those caught up in their trail of devastation ie the women and children. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:46pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm:
Hi Lisa, but is it really Smith's fault or is he like Monk - possessed by demons? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:50pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:46pm:
Yep. And it comes under taking responsibility for your actions. This guy has never been able to face them. He runs away from them. And even on Yahoo he used to log off when he got caught out. He's just logged off now for crying out loud! No doubt to bring in his other alias. His boring Yahoo reruns are too cringeworthy and predictable now. Anyway that is the underlying issue with guys like him. They refuse to take responsibility for their actions and instead try to get out of their responsibilities at every chance. The poor women and children are left absolutely devastated. The children in particular are left upset and angry as well as confused. No....my prayers are for the women and the children. He can go to Hell. He'll blend in well there. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:53pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm:
so Setanta can expect your deposit any time soon can he? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:56pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:50pm:
But Lisa, I have heard rumors about demons. They are around us all the time but we are immune from them unless we drink large amounts of alcohol or we take drugs such as :pot, meth, ice, LSD or heroin. It's then that the demons may possess us. Sometimes only an exorcism can get rid of them. :o |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:58pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:56pm:
by god you really are an idiot. An absolute and utter moron. ::) |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:59pm
People should take responsibility for their actions.
Like you giving my details to Dubyne. Like Lisa Moans boring the crap out of multiple forums about imaginary family/work/etc life. god does not exist, neither do demons. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:10pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:56pm:
Try bleach. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:10pm
https://www.inverse.com/article/25798-k2-synthetic-marijuana-demon-drug-excorcism
Synthetic marijuana, known also as K2 or Spice, is a literal poison that causes ill effects like dysphoria and psychosis. It’s an incredibly dangerous drug that, according to the CDC, is rising in popularity in the United States. It is also, according to some religious leaders, a gateway that allows demons to enter the body. While the Vatican’s guide to exorcism, the De Exorcismis et supplicationibus quibusdam, emphasizes to ordained exorcists that they should not confuse mental illness with demon possession, the Catholic church does consider drugs a force that allows Satan to more easily take over the body. “We’re in a fight with drugs, the occult, pornography,” Father Vincent Lampert, head priest at St. Malachy’s in Indianapolis, told The New York Post on Wednesday. “This is an entry point for evil and we need to take these souls back.” Marcos Quinones, a chaplain based in New York, also told the New York Post that he specifically considers K-2 a “form of the occult” and that the drug has been cursed to allow for demonic possession. While he acknowledges that drugs can medically exacerbate mental illness, he still considers K2 to be an instrument of the devil. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:14pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm:
^^^ You see that Bobby? That's exactly why people like the multi cyber troll John Smith deserves Hell. His victims deserve Heaven. His victims deserve compensation both here and in the afterlife. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:16pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:14pm:
hell is ozpol when you're on it I'm merely serving my penance like a good catholic boy ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:17pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:14pm:
I can't wait to see the grub's face at the counter of a police station where all cameras will be on him. But he hasn't got the balls to turn up because he hasn't got a cent left AFTER drugs and booze! Fact! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:16pm:
If you really were a good Catholic boy you would believe in demonic possession. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:29pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
The power of Christ compels him. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:37pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
I experienced more about that crap than you've ever even read about. It's a load of crap and in most cases a con job. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:39pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:29pm:
Just hold a crucifix in front of the patient and you will see how they react: Exorcist reveals how to tell if someone is possessed by a demon - and not mentally ill. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/exorcist-reveals-how-tell-someone-8030769 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:06pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:39pm:
Unless you're a Buddhist. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:08pm
Bobo, of course, is not a christian. Bobo uses religion as one way to repress his homosexual nature.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:21pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:06pm:
I'm not so sure about that. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/exorcist-reveals-how-tell-someone-8030769 People who appear to be demonically possessed may be mentally ill - and a priest who performs exorcisms has issued his guidelines on how to tell the difference. The deviations between those under the influence of an otherworldly being and someone with mental health issues has been laid out by Father Cipriano de Meo. Father de Meo, an exorcist of 64 years' standing from Foggia, Apulia, south-eastern Italy, says prayer is the key to establishing what ails a presented person. The exorcist will typically say a “prolonged prayer to the point where if the adversary [demon] is present, there's a reaction,” he told the Catholic News Agency . The unsettling reactions of a possessed person to the prayer, seen by the adversary as an enemy ready to fight him, can include "facial expressions, threatening words or gestures and other things - but especially blasphemies against God and Our Lady.” |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:24pm
People who think people are demonically possessed are evil arsewipes practicing psychiatry without qualifications or licence.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:29pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Hi Monk, if we ever meet I will hold a crucifix in front of your face and see what reaction I get. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:32pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:21pm:
The power of Christ doesn't compel Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics or Zoroastrians. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:54pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
Indeed, ‘a good catholic boy’ has been trained from the cradle to believe in all manner of superstitious nonsense. Or as the Jesuits tell us “Give us the child until he’s six and we’ve got him for life” - - They wish! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:02pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:54pm:
I think the Jesuit adage is, 'Give me the child until he is seven, and I will give you the man'. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:08pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:32pm:
But Christ is the boss - he's the King of Kings. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:11pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:08pm:
Springsteen is the boss. The other one's only the king of kings in the villages that still believe it. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:39pm John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:37pm:
There you go Bobby. There's your confession of the bloody month. Right there! Now it's time to exorcise him. Just do it somewhere else please. 😂🤣😆 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:40pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:11pm:
You choose not to believe in God then. That's fine. As you know ....I'm pro choice. 😎 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:43pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:39pm:
I hold the cross in front of Smith's face: |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:45pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:40pm:
So, you're not comedian, you don't get irony, and you're confusing 'Jesus' with god. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:52pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:45pm:
I never joke when it comes to God. Religion on the other hand ... |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:53pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:39pm:
Hey Bobby might be time to start a topic called "The Exorcist" 🤭 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:55pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:43pm:
Maybe for HIndus, Jains and Buddhists you need to use their sign of divinity and spirituality. Unfortunately for us westerners, that symobol's a swastika. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:59pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:52pm:
Why not? Greek gods used to bellyache in laughter at out feeble attempts to emulate them, or be like them. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:59pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:59pm:
Not gods! God! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 24th, 2021 at 9:00pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 8:59pm:
What's the difference? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:27pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 9:00pm:
They have nothing in common. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 25th, 2021 at 11:46am Frank wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 11:43am:
I love you whoever you are! You're gorgeous!!! Your posts make my day! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 25th, 2021 at 11:47am Frank wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 11:43am:
Then how is it you’re so sure you’re headed in the right direction ? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 25th, 2021 at 1:43pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
He's too busy being possessed by a demon to understand what you're saying Bobby 😂🤣😆 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 1:45pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 1:43pm:
It's more than 1 demon. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 25th, 2021 at 2:09pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 1:45pm:
😂🤣😆 Legion??? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 2:15pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 2:09pm:
I think John has 2 demons - 1 is a female type and the other an angry Beelzebub. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 25th, 2021 at 2:29pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 2:15pm:
Ah yes! The female type is Methra his old Yahoo mole 😂🤣😆 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25th, 2021 at 3:13pm
So, a crucifix. I was brought up a catholic, think I don’t know what a crucifix is? Like ??????????
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 3:47pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 3:13pm:
It will frighten the unclean spirits away - they don't like holy objects. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 4:16pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 4:12pm:
I command the evil spirits to leave you: |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 5:24pm
Monk - I promise you that if you ask you shall receive:
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Title: ! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm
You have admitted you are gay. A great first step.
Now take the second step out of the closet. Admit what you are an GLORY in it! |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Super Nova on Oct 25th, 2021 at 5:53pm
I pray everyday for the god botherers on the internet to stop.
He hasn't acted. Therefore I question the power of prayer. It don't work. And will stop the God Botherers |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25th, 2021 at 5:57pm
Thinks about it anyway.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:04pm
Nobody thinks the less of you for it. Accepted now, legal for longer than that, every generation has 1-2% gay.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:06pm
Monk - I promise you that if you ask you shall receive:
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:08pm
Accept it. Is fine, there are some in every generation and nobody cares anymore!
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Super Nova on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:09pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:06pm:
LOL |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:11pm
Bobo, pray for the strength to be true to your nature. Not healthy to repress things.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Super Nova on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:17pm
Jesus of Nazareth was not a straight man and there are plenty of facts to prove it. That’s right, the man who died for your sins may very well have been a homosexual.
The son of God, a man that had the power to surround himself with hundreds of women choose 12 men to hang out with. 12 MALE Apostles. These 12 men all went by their full names. Nathaniel, Phillip, Andrew, Mathew, Thomas and so on. This is something that gay men are notorious for. If Judas was into vagina he would have gone by Jud. Mathew would have been Matt and Thomas would have been Tom. His first miracle of turning water into wine. Please, wine?! A straight male would have made that poo a Bud Light and called it a day. But Jesus had class and taste, he converted that H2O into Sauvignon Blanc Jerusalem Valley 26 AD. Poof! History states that he was a “craftsman” until the age of 30. Some say that this translates into a carpenter. But for the sake of my theory I am saying that a “craftsman” was really an interior designer. He was 30 and not married and in those days people probably got married at 15. He preached the importance of charity and loving one another. Powerful straight men start wars and pay for sex while their wives are at home with the kids. Jesus had the power to do anything that he wanted. If this man were a heterosexual male, the wrecker of everything scared he would have created a machine gun or the stock market. But the son of God, Jesus of Nazareth, used his heavenly power to heal the sick and give vision to the blind. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:28pm Super Nova wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:17pm:
Blasphemy - repent. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:40pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
In the Most Holy Name of Jesus I cast Lucifer, Satan all their minions out. Down to Sheol you are cast, to the depths of the pit. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 25th, 2021 at 7:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
Where the hell do you get your statistics from? A Wheetbix packet? Most serious research in this area puts the percent of those who practice male/male sex as over 30%, a proportion of which are bi-sexual. And can we please put to rest this idea gays and heterosexuals are mutually exclusive types? Some men ‘turn gay’ in their middle age, often after escaping unhappy straight relationships. Some men who for most of their lives have only ever indulged in male/male relationship discover the joys of being with women. I get sick of repeating this but until the late 1890s the idea of exclusive heterosexuality or homosexuality weren’t commonly accepted. More often than not men caught having sex with other men were regarded as either having been ’tempted by the devil’ or simply availed themselves of a convenient outlet (inlet?). Granted there were effeminate males around such as Oscar Wilde but even he was married to a woman for decades and produced offspring. That many of you who have such strange ideas about gay/straight/bi etc and spend so much time thinking about such is puzzling. When you get onto intersex/sex changes etc your’e so far out of your depth you talk gibberish. I keep wondering why a group of ‘100% straight’ men who post here are so obsessively fascinated with all this.I can however almost understand those whose views are formed via religious doctrine being obsessed with sinners. Makes them more certain of their own pure as driven snow virtue encouraging the comforting delusion they'd one happy day be entering the pearly gates. They may want to re-think such ambition given what they could learn about St Paul when they get there. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2021 at 10:24pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 7:06pm:
Monk's exorcism online: In the Most Holy Name of Jesus I cast Lucifer, Satan all their minions out. Down to Sheol you are cast, to the depths of the pit. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 26th, 2021 at 6:29am Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 10:24pm:
Man, are you ever ugly when you’re in a temper tantrum. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 26th, 2021 at 8:08am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 26th, 2021 at 7:53am: On the contrary, it pays us to keep track of fundamentalist delusions given the rise of businesses such as Pentacostalism et al. And remember, here in Oz we have a Prime Minister who ’speaks in tongues’ at sunday service. And not much better during the week. 1st Corinthians ch 14 : V 1-2. Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. Not that we have any evidence our resident evangelist speaks in tongues. I would however be interesting to hear him explain away the above passage. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 26th, 2021 at 8:14am
I doubt the drip is fundamentalist. He thinks the christian act makes him superior to me is all.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 26th, 2021 at 8:40am
Continues -
Monk's exorcism online: We drive you from us, whoever you may be, unclean spirits, all satanic powers, all infernal invaders, all wicked legions, assemblies and sects. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 26th, 2021 at 10:14am Bobby. wrote on Oct 26th, 2021 at 8:40am:
There’s only one ‘exorcism’ will work for you, long term psychotherapy. You could however ignore our advice and cleave to Ecclesiastes Ch 1 : V 15 - 18. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Jim Lahey on Oct 26th, 2021 at 8:53pm
Hi Bobby, it's legal now, come out of the closet. god will forgive you.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 27th, 2021 at 7:59am John Smith wrote on Oct 26th, 2021 at 8:13pm: Sick of pointing this out but when will you nongs realise the invention of on line dating sites such as GRNDR etc have rendered the public toilet scene obsolete. Anyhow, as a number of surveys revealed (Sydney & Newcastle Universities) the majority of males haunting public toilets for sex were married to women. Take some time to digest that boys. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lols on Oct 27th, 2021 at 10:41am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
I do pray, then I wonder if it’s wishful thinking. But… as Ayn put it so eloquently… Jim Lahey wrote: you might as well believe in god Jones, you make up all sorts of other fantasy poo so might as well add another Ayn Marx wrote: Both believers and atheists are self congratulatory egotists believing with absolute certainty they, and they alone, know ’the truth’ when the truth could be more than any human mind could ever contain. The black hole of human arrogance is - - - - - - - As it’s something beyond our human understanding… the mystery of life… just seeing history coming to light that isn’t told … there were so many different others in this world before us… and then aliens. Advanced with spacecrafts extraordinaire and tech knowledge beyond us. When I see ppl write “Aliens come visit earth” I write…”Perhaps they are from Earth” Wasn’t it documented somewhere that we “hoomans” shared some DNA with a captured alien? There’s all this talk of us as having a lot of “junk DNA”…. But maybe all the dots haven’t been joined yet? What’s it to do with prayer? Perhaps all lifeforms have something in common….spirituality. So when I pray, it's feels more like a wish…..full of hope and just putting it out there in the universe. God … I believe is an almighty spiritual source. Maybe not so in control on this erring earth… but has more control once we leave our earth bound physical bodies… The question has been asked… are we just one big experiment? Who or what has really been in charge? So the purpose of life is…..(feel free to complete at will). |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Oct 27th, 2021 at 1:28pm
Spinoza
https://youtu.be/pVEeXjPiw54 |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Raven on Oct 27th, 2021 at 1:37pm
Prayer only helps the one praying because it gives them comfort. And there is nothing wrong with that.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Oct 27th, 2021 at 1:38pm
A wonderful introduction to Spinoza, beautifully narrated.
1/8 https://youtu.be/PVYWyt9XeZA |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 1:39pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 9:59am:
Your verse is not relevant. Read this: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 2:36pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 2:31pm:
It means that you will not inherit the kingdom of God. namely: nor effeminate, nor drunkards |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:05pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 2:53pm:
They are the words of Paul the Apostle - not mine. Paul the Apostle ( c. 5 – c. 64/67 AD), commonly known as Saint Paul and also known by his Hebrew name Saul of Tarsus, was a Christian apostle (although not one of the Twelve Apostles) who spread the teachings of Jesus in the first-century world. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:25pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:05pm:
Lets get this one Straight. Saul of Tarsus-Paul did more than spread the teachings of Jesus, he altered and replaced a lot of it to his own ends. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:28pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:25pm:
But it's in the Bible - it's accepted as holy words. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:30pm
The holy words of Paul the Apostle:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:08pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:29pm:
Do we know what it means to be a drunkard but effeminate? Why is it these characteristics of ‘maleness’ and ‘femaleness’ need be single gender only characteristics? My experience tells me the sanest are those unafraid to be both tough and fragile without even associating such with a particular gender. I'm reminded of Philipino men. When I first encountered them I mistakenly thought most were gay. Silly me, in the Philipines gender characteristcs ( if we can call them that) are often the reverse of those of many other nationalities. Then we have Italian men, a very strange mix I’ve always thought. Full of bravado on the surface but hyper-emotional mummies boys underneath. None of this will matter to those of you who consider yourselves ‘real men’. It’s when religion influences thise discussion they become insane. How many Christians have wondered about the ancient tradition of male priests frocking up for sunday services not to mention the fluffy weirdness of Angican choirboy outfits ? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:12pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:08pm:
Some of the clothes in the church are very poofy. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:13pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:30pm:
It really was a waste of time having Christ die on the cross for our sins. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:25pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:13pm:
Not to true believers. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by John Smith on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:29pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:25pm:
so you agree it was a waste of time then ::) |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 27th, 2021 at 7:03pm Frank wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 6:07pm:
What a fascinating internal world your peculiar brain constructs. Do you dream about these scenarios ? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 28th, 2021 at 2:59pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 7:03pm:
What about the holy words of Paul the Apostle? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 28th, 2021 at 3:47pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 28th, 2021 at 3:40pm:
Galatians 5:19-21 KJV 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 28th, 2021 at 4:58pm
Drugs and demons:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/ep4dxk/its-official-dmt-makes-you-believe-in-god Respondents to the study, who had taken DMT on average 14 times, described bumping into an array of what they could best describe as aliens, spirits, angels, demons, gnomes and fairies. Most of these creatures, said respondents, were sentient and benevolent, with many described as “sacred.” Less than 15 percent reported “judgmental or malicious” creatures. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Oct 29th, 2021 at 7:31am Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2021 at 4:58pm:
Cultural and religious upbringing wouldn’t have anything to do with it, would it? Anyhow, just don’t go dropping DMT before attending sunday service. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Oct 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm
A wonderful introduction to Spinoza, beautifully narrated.
1/8 https://youtu.be/PVYWyt9XeZA |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 30th, 2021 at 7:59am Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 29th, 2021 at 7:31am:
The question is - why are reports of demons so ubiquitous in the DMT state instead of something else? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Bobby. on Oct 31st, 2021 at 7:34am
More words from the Apostle Paul.
Romans 1 KJV [26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. [28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; [29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, [30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [31] Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 10:27am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
If prayer works then why do children continue to die from cancer? Is it because they didn't pray hard enough? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 8:09pm The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 10:27am:
We're ALL dying/going to die at some stage and for some reason. We have trouble accepting our mortality. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:32pm
Lord give me strength.
I'm tired. Fed up even. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:33pm Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:32pm:
It's all part of God's plan. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:35pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:33pm:
Getting upset and hurt? |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:40pm Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:35pm:
Heart and soul...one must burn. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:44pm |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:05am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 8:09pm:
Prayer either works or it doesn't. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 8th, 2021 at 12:21pm The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:05am:
Prayer is a form of communication. And it does work. It's the contents of said communication that's the issue. Along with our expected time frames in having our prayers answered. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:10am The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 10:27am:
Imagine that in the future, some genius programmer is finally able to create a sentient robot, or even genetically engineer a new intelligent organism from scratch. Let's say that an environment was created for some of these beings to live in so they could be observed. Let us also say, that while there are some random elements to the personalities of these beings, the programmer, genetic engineer, whatever, programmed them to generally follow specific trends and behave in certain ways. Now let's say the programmer gets upset with the way his creations are behaving, so he decides to take the misbehaving ones, and have them tortured forever and ever (he simulates pain somehow in their artificial sentient mind). He tortures his creations for behaving the way he designed them to behave in response to the environment he created. I would call that a sadistic asshole, Christians would call him the fountain of all holiness. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:55am Ayn Marx wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:10am:
You ARE being tortured but only by yourself. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:59am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
"The function of prayer is not to influence God but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.” To imagine that god would constantly intervene in the minutea of personal affairs is a misunderstanding quickly realised after some reflection. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Ayn Marx on Nov 10th, 2021 at 2:27pm Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:55am:
Your addiction to ad hominem argument is becoming boring. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Nov 10th, 2021 at 6:10pm Ayn Marx wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 2:27pm:
Your 'thought experiment' or analogy is stupid and misses the point on several levels. It doesn't work as though experiment, nor as analogy. You misconstrue consciousness, freedom, you are obsessed by a kindergarten level understanding of human conceptions of the sacred and god - etc, etc. You are mixing all sorts of thoughtless nonsense together. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 28th, 2021 at 12:15pm Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:59am:
I would argue that most religious people DO believe in an interventionist God. It is the whole reason for this thread. There are those that "pray" and "give thanks" on the sporting field at key points of a game. This always raises the question of what sort of God allows children to die, be tortured and raped, yet intervenes to allow some sports person to kick a goal or score a century. It truly is a case of cognitive dissonance |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by issuevoter on Nov 28th, 2021 at 2:24pm
Its all wishful-thinking.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by JaSin. on Nov 28th, 2021 at 7:12pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
I'll pray for a million dollars. ...for myself. ;) |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 28th, 2021 at 7:21pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Yes, I do. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Nov 28th, 2021 at 7:50pm The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
I believe in an interventionist God. An interventionist God, that is MY God. .....i have a guardian angel. And, [in this PRE-judgement era] my God honours my own choices. [e.g. i can freely love God, or, i can choose to hate, God the creator] And if we choose, to show, that we really, really hate God, the creator [in our choices], the loving God will honour the choices of his creation. ....its called, having FREE WILL [to act against our own interests]. There is the wickedness of individuals, in this world. And our choices, will bring our choices, back upon us. Isn't that, in accord, with 'scientific principles' ? . But what about innocent people [suffering] ? We live, in an [almost] instant karma world. Don't we ? e.g. Children with cancer, and the many other general sicknesses which people suffer from. Deuteronomy 7:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers: 13 And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee. 14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. 15 And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee. Deuteronomy 28:58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. . QUESTION; How can/does an individual plainly demonstrate [in his choices], that he hates God ? Whoooo ! That is a really, really difficult one, isn't it ! /sarc off . Never old. IMAGE.... "......when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Setanta on Nov 28th, 2021 at 8:30pm Yadda wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
Why hasn't he intervened? Islam runs rampant, his following shrinks by the day in enlightened societies as science explains the inexplicable. He can't even keep his enemies in check. I suspect your god has no power outside your mind. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Nov 28th, 2021 at 9:12pm Setanta wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 8:30pm:
I told you, this time, it is appointed for men to make choices and mistakes. Letting wickedest of men have their way [PRE-judgement], it is all part of God's cunning plan. ;) . Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Setanta, Are you just looking forward to all of that peaceful time, that you will have, to look up at that coffin lid ? Or are you going to the ashes ? See, i believe in something different. Hebrews 9:27 ......it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Setanta, I'm happy for you to believe whatever you want to believe. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Frank on Nov 28th, 2021 at 10:38pm Yadda wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 9:12pm:
So no intervention then. |
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by rhino on Nov 28th, 2021 at 10:48pm Jasin wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 7:12pm:
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by issuevoter on Nov 29th, 2021 at 8:31am
Like I pointed out on the Christmas Party thread, Ozpol is inhabited by crackpots.
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Title: Re: Power of prayer Post by Yadda on Nov 29th, 2021 at 9:46am Frank wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 10:38pm:
Well, i've seen his intervention in my life. He [His spirit] has kept my safe, throughout my life, even when i've done some very 'careless' things, or been in some perilous situ's. But now, day, to day, it is 'pretty quiet'. And no, i haven't seen any great lightening bolts, smiting the wicked [....not yet]. Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Scripture [God's own WORD ! ] says that HE is a God who hides himself, but also, that he will aid those who love him. 2 Chronicles 16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him..... Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. 16 They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols. 17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. 18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. 19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right. In scripture, God throws down a challenge to every one us, and says to test Him, if he is a faithful God. If you are lost, and depressed, about what is going on in YOUR OWN life.....then pray to Him. Ask Him !!, for help. .....but with your penitent heart. Isaiah 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. That, seems like a pretty good deal to me !! Test Him..... Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? If you love the world, love what the world gives to you, you are one of those persons, who will never deign to seek God. It is the truth. 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. |
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