https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-03/cleo-smith-found-alive-by-wa-police/100589612


Cleo Smith found alive by WA police in Carnarvon


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Missing four-year-old girl Cleo Smith has been found safe and well in a locked house in Carnarvon, WA police say.

According to a statement from Deputy Commissioner Col Blanch, police broke into the house about 1am and found her in one of the rooms.

One of the officers picked her up and asked her, 'What's your name?"

She replied: "My name is Cleo."

She has been reunited with her parents.

WA police said a Carnarvon man had been taken into custody and was being questioned by detectives.

Cleo had been missing since October 16, having disappeared from the tent she was sleeping in with her parents at the Blowholes, a popular camping site north of Carnarvon.

Her disappearance sparked a widespread search across Western Australia.

"This is the outcome we all hoped and prayed for," Deputy Commissioner Blanch said.

"It's the outcome we've achieved because of some incredible police work and I want to thank Cleo's parents, the West Australian community and all of the volunteers.

"And of course, I want to thank my colleagues in the Western Australian Police Force."

More to come.

Maybe there is a god!

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 7:05am:

Maybe there is a god!

What a great job those cops did.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 7:15am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did.

Yes they sure did, better than our bungling NSW cops trying to find the young bloke that's gone missing north of Sydney

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 7:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. Yes they sure did, better than our bungling NSW cops trying to find the young bloke that's gone missing north of Sydney

To be fair, it is a rather different environment.

Anyway, I hope they work out WTF this guy was doing and hang him and hang him high if he's outright evil.

Bobby - your cue...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 7:52am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:48am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. Yes they sure did, better than our bungling NSW cops trying to find the young bloke that's gone missing north of Sydney To be fair, it is a rather different environment. Anyway, I hope they work out WTF this guy was doing and hang him and hang him high if he's outright evil. Bobby - your cue...

When you hang a man you better look at him.

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 7:05am:

Maybe there is a god!

ScoMo prayed for her

---

Well that is almost a god!

Well hand waving god botherer anyway!

;)

ABC news.

There is a 36 year old man in custody.

Bobby has been reported missing from PA ...

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:14am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! ScoMo prayed for her

I expect he'll be on a plane - heading back home - as we SPEAK !

There's BOUND to be better pre-election photo opps. in Carnarvon - than the ones he can't seem to avoid, in Glascow - or Rome

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Scott Morrison is spotted sitting VERY far away from world leaders at the climate summit after being brushed aside to what seems to be the political equivalent of the kids' table

At meeting chaired by Boris Johnson, Scott Morrison is seated on the outer edge
So far away he may have been thinking about cold shoulder, not global warming

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10155009/Awkward-moment-Scott-Morrison-forced-look-far-away-climate-meeting.html

Mr Morrison also struggled to shake hands of leaders at G20 Summit in Rome

Prime minister was seen standing on podium awkwardly folding his face mask

Mr Morrison had earlier awkwardly shaken hands with Emmanuel Macron

I, Solation!

AiA wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:52am:

Bobby has been reported missing from PA ...

Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:24am:

ABC news. There is a 36 year old man in custody.

What should happen to someone who abducts kids?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 9:19am:

AiA wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:52am: Bobby has been reported missing from PA ... Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away?

I haven't posted there regularly in years, Bobby. Why would I be there now? You, on the other hand, should be focusing your efforts on that board where they are sorely needed.

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 9:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:24am: ABC news. There is a 36 year old man in custody. What should happen to someone who abducts kids?

Resisting arrest is a first stop..

Then let the social scientists have a shot... find out that he had a bad childhood, was abused as a child, only wanted a child of his own to love and nurture etc, suffers from low intellectual ability and is essentially harmless, lives alone and is carer for his three great-aunts who are all disabled, is really just a child inside and wouldn't hurt a fly.... then there is the Alan Bond defence as utilised by St Gladys....

"I... I...I..(struggles inside).. I.. c-c- (weeps) c-can't.... (sniffs)....r-r-r-remem--ber (sobs)...."

"So you don't know where all those millions went?"

"N-n-n-n....no.."

"Who's funding your defence?"

"N-n-n--no... (sniffs) i-i-dea..."

Wasn't there mention when she first went missing she was with her mum and step dad?  It may be that the abductor was her natural dad. Could explain why she made no fuss when she was taken. 


We shall see. In any case great news that she is safe and well.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:09am:

Wasn't there mention when she first went missing she was with her mum and step dad?  It may be that the abductor was her natural dad. Could explain why she made no fuss when she was taken.  We shall see. In any case great news that she is safe and well.

That was probably something we were all thinking.

However, the police said this this morning:

"There's no family connection. I'll simply confirm, there's a 36-year-old man in custody," he told ABC Radio Perth.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 7:15am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did.

The police didnt find her, the neighbours did. 

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.

Why do you say that?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:11am:

"There's no family connection. I'll simply confirm, there's a 36-year-old man in custody," he told ABC Radio Perth.

Yes...

Could mean the mother and/or stepfather was not involved, or the abductor was not connected to the mother and/or stepfather but connected to the father or that it was in fact a crime of opportunity.

If Cleo did not make a sound when abducted, wouldn't that indicate she knew and trusted the abductor?

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:16am:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  Why do you say that?

Yes - we can only go on the reports... though the neighbours would have been on the alert.. good work, anyway.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.

And if the stories are true, the guy they've arrested must be a real idiot.

Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids.

Thank God for his utter stupidity.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:19am:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  And if the stories are true, the guy they've arrested must be a real idiot. Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids. Thank God for his utter stupidity.

Yes, but the police can take zero credit. Very poorly handled this search, not good police work.

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:16am:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  Why do you say that?

Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:19am: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  And if the stories are true, the guy they've arrested must be a real idiot. Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids. Thank God for his utter stupidity. Yes, but the police can take zero credit. Very poorly handled this search, not good police work.

At least they took care not to turn it into another Chamberlain.

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:16am:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  Why do you say that?

Because thats exactly what happened, the police had no idea where she was until the neighbours rang them. If you want to find heroes in this then its the neighbours. The police were stumped.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:19am: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  And if the stories are true, the guy they've arrested must be a real idiot. Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids. Thank God for his utter stupidity. Yes, but the police can take zero credit. Very poorly handled this search, not good police work.

So what would you have done differently?

Has to go down in history as the first time the police have rescued anyone but it was a fluke anyway. The police aren't interested in rescuing anybody

Spot

Belgarion wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:24am:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:19am: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  And if the stories are true, the guy they've arrested must be a real idiot. Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids. Thank God for his utter stupidity. Yes, but the police can take zero credit. Very poorly handled this search, not good police work. So what would you have done differently?

Couple of things. wont state here publically. But no, the police didnt find her , neighb ours did. So lets give credit where it is due .

I am so pleased by this, I thought she was gone.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:28am:

Has to go down in history as the first time the police have rescued anyone but it was a fluke anyway. The police aren't interested in rescuing anybody Spot

Wow! Cynicism much?

Don't cops also have kids?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:28am:

Has to go down in history as the first time the police have rescued anyone but it was a fluke anyway. The police aren't interested in rescuing anybody Spot

Sure they are, but we forget most good police work is because of information received.  Breaking down someones door and rescuing a child is good police work.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:28am:

Has to go down in history as the first time the police have rescued anyone but it was a fluke anyway. The police aren't interested in rescuing anybody Spot

It does seem to be a fluke.

I heard the copper this morning admit that they were "looking for a needle in a haystack".

It appears they had no leads whatsoever.

Vigilant Woolworths shoppers nabbed the bastard.

Well, they alerted police to his suspicious behaviour and gave them his address.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:30am:

I am so pleased by this, I thought she was gone.

Me too, statistically after a week its never good news. 

Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy.

Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public.

Great news.

I hope that the MSM will give Cleo and family some 'space', to try to normalise again.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:28am:

Has to go down in history as the first time the police have rescued anyone but it was a fluke anyway. The police aren't interested in rescuing anybody Spot

That flying banner under your every post correctly evaluates you.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:40am:

Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public.

lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:01pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs.

The WA police could be the best in the world -
or it was a miracle that they found her.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:01pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs.

More info coming today. It will probably be something like chasing down CCTV footage, petrol station purchases etc.

One of the best bits of police work in Australia is probably the sting that caught Brett Peter Cowan.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:01pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs.

OK...

BTW, which police force in Australia are the relative brainiacs?

Latest news ABC 24.

Extra police sent to Carnarvon in case of "public disorder."


Translation - the police fear a lynching in a small town.
There is probably already someone with a rope made up into a noose.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:09pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:01pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs. OK... BTW, which police force in Australia are the relative brainiacs?

Ive dealt with most of them, even NT beat them. You ever been to WA? Unfortunately I am condemned to live here for a while.  Local news consists of the weather and feel good stories about cats stuck in trees and the huge debate raging over whether the homeless should be allowed to sh1t and sleep in shop doorways sending them out of business.

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:09pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:01pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs. More info coming today. It will probably be something like chasing down CCTV footage, petrol station purchases etc. One of the best bits of police work in Australia is probably the sting that caught Brett Peter Cowan.

Yes, the Cowan sting was grand. The way it is supposed to be done without all the huffing and puffing and press leaks.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:08pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:01pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs. The WA police could be the best in the world - or it was a miracle that they found her.

A neighbour told the police who the guy was and where he lived, after he saw him shopping at Woollies for nappies (even though he doesn't have any kids).

All the police did was go to the house and pick up Cloe.

There wasn't even anyone else in the house at the time.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:08pm: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:01pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs. The WA police could be the best in the world - or it was a miracle that they found her. A neighbour told the police who the guy was and where he lived, after he saw him shopping at Woollies for nappies (even though he doesn't have any kids). All the police did was go to the house and pick up Cleo. There wasn't even anyone else in the house at the time.

Greggy,
I don't think we know the proper story yet.

Remember - when you hang a man you better look at him.

( I know you want to )

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 9:19am:

AiA wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:52am: Bobby has been reported missing from PA ... Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away?

Probably to teach you a lesson about banning people.  Do you really reckon you can toss sand in the face of people and expect not to have your nuts kicked in?

Aussie wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 9:19am: AiA wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:52am: Bobby has been reported missing from PA ... Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away? Probably to teach you a lesson about banning people.  Do you really reckon you can toss sand in the face of people and expect not to have your nuts kicked in?

Aussie,
keep your nose out of things you know nothing about.

There were rumors that Bobby had been found alive which were traced to impostors in the 'Sewer'.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:08pm: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:01pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:40am: Given the many cock-ups over the years with police publishing information too early or unlawfully identifying suspects, this seems like they're learning to be more media savvy. Maybe what the police really knew about this case may never be made public... Or further arrests, if they occur, may indicate what they know now, but are not making public. lol, dont hold your breath. They were stumped. WA coppers arent exactly braniacs. The WA police could be the best in the world - or it was a miracle that they found her. A neighbour told the police who the guy was and where he lived, after he saw him shopping at Woollies for nappies (even though he doesn't have any kids). All the police did was go to the house and pick up Cleo. There wasn't even anyone else in the house at the time. Greggy, I don't think we know the proper story yet.

I'm just telling you what the police have said.

They were tipped off by a neighbour who told them who the guy was and where he lived, and the police went to the address provided and picked up Cleo.

She was alone in the house at the time.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:

I'm just telling you what the police have said. They were tipped off by a neighbour who told them who the guy was and where he lived, and the police went to the address provided and picked up Cleo. She was alone in the house at the time.

Whatever - as long as we see some justice.

Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 9:19am: AiA wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:52am: Bobby has been reported missing from PA ... Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away? Probably to teach you a lesson about banning people.  Do you really reckon you can toss sand in the face of people and expect not to have your nuts kicked in? Aussie, keep your nose out of things you know nothing about.

Unlikely, but I do know that you are screwing the last bit of life out of the sewer.  You are a ban happy retard who thinks he is God.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:20am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:16am: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  Why do you say that? Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids.

Close community, eh?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:20am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:16am: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  Why do you say that? Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids. Close community, eh?

Carnarvon is a small regional town.

Less than 5,000 people.

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:

Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville.

Even serial killers might disappear there... never leave your grandma outside in her scooter if you want to see her again...

Could be a movie in it.... seems they caught the right guy - still not sure about that Falconio thing....

LTYC reckons he's a Wharte Man - and a conservative... must be automatic over there, eh?  White = conservative... boy's got a mind like a steel trap.... closed and intent on hurting some innocent animal ...

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:

Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville.

Tonkin Cres removed from google street view.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view.

No.

I'm looking at it right now.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:36pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:32pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view. No. I'm looking at it right now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664

Yes, true... Dunno why I couldn't find it before.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:32pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view. No. I'm looking at it right now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664 Yes, true... Dunno why I couldn't find it before.

It's a fairly typical Carnarvon street.

It's just a small coastal town (famous for its bananas), in the middle of nowhere.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:32pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view. No. I'm looking at it right now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664 Yes, true... Dunno why I couldn't find it before.

north,

Luckily, you are not W.A. cop !!  [...looking for an abducted lil girl]           :o


....well, you were 'asking' for that one, on this thread.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:32pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view. No. I'm looking at it right now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664 Yes, true... Dunno why I couldn't find it before.

Them darn glitches in the matrix  :P

Yadda wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:52pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:32pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view. No. I'm looking at it right now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664 Yes, true... Dunno why I couldn't find it before. north, Luckily, you are not W.A. cop !!  [...looking for an abducted lil girl]           :o ....well, you were 'asking' for that one, on this thread.

No... WA is lucky I'm not a WA cop!!

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 10:20am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:16am: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 10:15am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 7:05am: Maybe there is a god! What a great job those cops did. The police didnt find her, the neighbours did.  Why do you say that? Apparently he got busted by locals when he was seen in the local Woolworths buying nappies, even though he has no kids.

This is what hubby heard also that it was the public/people that led to her find when the abductor was spotted buying nappies (gotta love small country towns) but my first puzzled mind asked… why nappies? Isn’t Cleo an age where no nappies are worn?

In any event, I’m so very happy she was found, it’s a bit of good blessed news we needed to hear for a sigh of relief amidst all that’s going on of late.

Hoping she isn’t damaged in any way… in time we will know.

I was watching reactions towards the mum and step dad, saying they’re part of it, guilty, the mum not devastated looking enough etc etc

I watched 4 body language experts watch their interview, and nothing of “guilty” came out of it.

I would be a mess but… strong medication would be advised to keep together so as to assist in investigation.

It’s a good result, so hoping that little girl is not too traumatised or sexually abused. That’s the concern now.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 1:57pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:52pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:32pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm: Do a street view of Tonkin Cres. If they make a movie about this they should use ot as a location because it looks 100% serialkillerville. Tonkin Cres removed from google street view. No. I'm looking at it right now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-24.8752742,113.6506986,3a,75y,118.57h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DrqvIxfc_H8Iw_33qgum1Jg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.26183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664 Yes, true... Dunno why I couldn't find it before. north, Luckily, you are not W.A. cop !!  [...looking for an abducted lil girl]           :o ....well, you were 'asking' for that one, on this thread. No... WA is lucky I'm not a WA cop!!

north,

I think that is what i said !           ;)

Sophia wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 2:06pm:

I watched 4 body language experts watch their interview, and nothing of “guilty” came out of it.

Unless it was something the body language "experts" missed - a staged abduction to get the mother's little girl out of the stepfather's life

Hats off to the WA police for finding that little angel.

8-) 8-) 8-)

A two week search for Cleo. Cleo found alive and well. I am actually surprised that this is the first forum topic about her.

Anyway, interview just finished and photos of the perp.

Sadly - a Usual Suspect and apparently 'not quite right'.  Earlier a neighbour, who was Aboriginal, pointed out that it was odd that he was buying Kimbies and had no kids.

I get the feeling he 'just wanted a baby of his own' - which is why he bought nappies for a 4 yo, no report of any abuse.

Don't hang all for one...

Who'll get the $1m reward, the cops who are going all out to praise themselves before the cameras, or the guy who gave the cops enough info as to who the perp probably is?

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 3:51pm:

Who'll get the $1m reward, the cops who are going all out to praise themselves before the cameras, or the guy who gave the cops enough info as to who the perp probably is?

Because he gave the police the information about where to find Cleo, you would expect that the informant would be rewarded.

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 3:58pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 3:51pm: Who'll get the $1m reward, the cops who are going all out to praise themselves before the cameras, or the guy who gave the cops enough info as to who the perp probably is? Because he gave the police the information about where to find Cleo, you would expect that the informant would be rewarded.

          ;D          ;D          ;D          ;D          ;D          ;D          ;D          ;D          ;D

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 3:51pm:

Who'll get the $1m reward, the cops who are going all out to praise themselves before the cameras, or the guy who gave the cops enough info as to who the perp probably is?

I'm by no means putting poo on the coppers, but all they really did was go to an address that was given to them and remove the girl from the empty house.

Anybody could have done the exact same thing.

It wasn't a brilliant piece of detective work, or a dangerous rescue.

The neighbour deserves the million dollars.

But hey, good on everyone involved - it's the outcome that's important.

GOOD!! to the bit highlighted.


A man arrested by police after four-year-old Cleo Smith was found "alive and well" inside a Carnarvon home in the early hours of this morning, was "known to police", Homicide Detective Superintendent Rod Wilde has revealed.

The man in custody sustained head injuries while in his holding cell and has been taken to hospital by police.


https://www.9news.com.au/national/cleo-smith-missing-girl-found-western-australia/13344c4b-cbce-4ca9-957c-d467ed71b73f

The suspected abductor's name is Terry Kelly -
is he an Abbo?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 5:30pm:

The suspected abductor's name is Terry Kelly - is he an Abbo?

Google 'terrance kelly carnarvon' , I won't post it yet as there are no reliable news sources.

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 5:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:30pm: The suspected abductor's name is Terry Kelly - is he an Abbo? Google 'terrance kelly carnarvon' , I won't post it yet as there are no reliable news sources.

There is blurry picture of him in an ambulance
but the story has been removed.   :-[
https://7news.com.au/news

Apparently, one news organisation posted a picture of a Terrance Kelly, but not the correct one, so wait until it's official.

This is still up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10159773/WA-police-Cleo-Smith-rescued-police-Carnarvon-Australia.html

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 5:37pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:30pm: The suspected abductor's name is Terry Kelly - is he an Abbo? Google 'terrance kelly carnarvon' , I won't post it yet as there are no reliable news sources. There is blurry picture of him in an ambulance but the story has been removed.   :-[ https://7news.com.au/news

I record the 9 news so I can look at his dial for as long as have the recording - his face is black and he has black fuzzy hair. He was quite visible before the officer covered his face with the sheet

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 5:39pm:

Apparently, one news organisation posted a picture of a Terrance Kelly, but not the correct one, so wait until it's official. This is still up. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10159773/WA-police-Cleo-Smith-rescued-police-Carnarvon-Australia.html

Here:

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Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 9:19am: AiA wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:52am: Bobby has been reported missing from PA ... Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away? Probably to teach you a lesson about banning people.  Do you really reckon you can toss sand in the face of people and expect not to have your nuts kicked in? Aussie, keep your nose out of things you know nothing about.

if you kept out of things you know nothing about you'd never be allowed anywhere near a moderator button

Great result ... well done to everyone involved in the search

I'm glad they didn't wait 12 months before posting the $1m reward.

Kelly is an Aboriginal clan name in WA.

And the disgusting racist grubs have crawled out of their holes.

Didn't take long, and no surprise as to who they are.

If anyone was going to exploit the kidnapping of a 4 year old girl in order to score cheap (racist) points, these are the scumbags you'd first think of.

Truly appalling.

In just one week they've exploited the death of a young woman and the kidnapping of a small child in order to push their abhorrent agenda.

Sickening.

Shock! Conservative white man kidnapped Cleo Smith


Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:15pm:

Do all Ozpolitic conservative white men have an alibi? Will this result in Australians shunning and ostracizing conservative white males? No doubt this will elicit a lot of blathering and blubbering from Ozpolitic conservative bedwetters.

Yes,definitely an Aboriginal,  so were the people who dobbed him in. Now the police are saying they wont pay the reward. Lot of disappointed bottleo's right there.

Best news story in Oz since the miners got rescued in Tassie, I thought Cleo was a goner after day two.

A big Aboriginal community up around that way and that's where all the fugitives hang out like in Darwin in the olden days.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Yes,definitely an Aboriginal,  so were the people who dobbed him in. Now the police are saying they wont pay the reward. Lot of disappointed bottleo's right there.

That… is disrespectful, and like hell anyone will trust the police reward offer in future. People won’t forget this.

A reward is due to the ones that did the right thing, whether they’re, black, white, green, drinkers or not…. they did “the right conscientious thing” for that little girl to get found.

Now if no reward is paid, I will never forget that and will call WA police “Indian givers”  >:( offering something, then going back on their word.
Tsk tsk tsk

The whole world is watching.

Not a good look right there!

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 5:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:37pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 5:30pm: The suspected abductor's name is Terry Kelly - is he an Abbo? Google 'terrance kelly carnarvon' , I won't post it yet as there are no reliable news sources. There is blurry picture of him in an ambulance but the story has been removed.   :-[url]https://7news.com.au/news[/url] I record the 9 news so I can look at his dial for as long as have the recording - his face is black and he has black fuzzy hair. He was quite visible before the officer covered his face with the sheet

On the 'breaking news' he was clearly an Aborigine wearing a head bandage, given that he tried to self-harm, they said.

Now the PC Police are on to it.... no pictures in case the lynch mob gathers..... given that they guv wanted to cover that up... if he wasn't Black why was it necessary for the Police Comm to talk about community togetherness etc and no disruptions or lynching etc... don't know why they bother.

Neighbour I saw commenting on his buying Kimbies was Aboriginal as well.... not all bad... might be the bloke who dobbed him.  If so, happy to see him get the reward, big party or not.

I see WA police are now attempting to take full credit for the childs finding and rescue. And declining to pay any of the promised reward to the people who actually did find her.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:30pm:

I see WA police are now attempting to take full credit for the childs finding and rescue. And declining to pay any of the promised reward to the people who actually did find her.

Ahh, yes... Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:30pm:

I see WA police are now attempting to take full credit for the childs finding and rescue. And declining to pay any of the promised reward to the people who actually did find her.

From everything I've read, the neighbour spotted the guy buying nappies, but never reported it to police. They tracked his car their so no reward.

The local said he saw his neighbour “buying Kimbies” at the nearby Woolworths supermarket on Monday, even though he is not believed to have young children.

“We didn’t click on about who it was he was buying it for until now.”

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/carnarvon-man-spotted-buying-nappies-days-before-cleo-smith-found-at-house-c-4409681

The police had stated they were told of the nappy buying which lead them to the house. the people interviewed were not necassarily the dobbers.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:50pm:

The police had stated they were told of the nappy buying which lead them to the house. the people interviewed were not necassarily the dobbers.

Got a link, this is all I've seen. I reckon a lot of the reports today will be a bit garbled by the media, should get some clarity in the next few days.

This was updated a few hours ago.

Other neighbours have said he was seen recently buying nappies, which raised questions for them.

Whether it was that information or something else that led police to the door of the unremarkable house has yet to be revealed.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-03/ordinary-house-where-cleo-smith-missing-girl-found/100590884

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:38pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 12:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 9:19am: AiA wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:52am: Bobby has been reported missing from PA ... Why isn't AiA back at PA posting away? Probably to teach you a lesson about banning people.  Do you really reckon you can toss sand in the face of people and expect not to have your nuts kicked in? Aussie, keep your nose out of things you know nothing about. if you kept out of things you know nothing about you'd never be allowed anywhere near a moderator button

I still can't believe I was banned then subsequently unbanned before my ban was up because Bobby was reminded that I couldn't discuss the petition I started (which saw me banned) if I remained banned.

Allow me to summarise all that :

Bobby's Ban Button Binge Breakdown

The man has been named as Terrance Kelly.

lee wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 9:27pm:

The man has been named as Terrance Kelly.

Alias Jimmy and one of the Kelly mob.

Such wonderful news. Pure joy.

It just breaks my heart to come here and see it being turned foul by the "usual suspects". To use one of the truly rare and precious feel-good stories the media relate as a platform for hatred and bigotry has me feeling deeply sorry for you.

Imagine. to live a life where this is your emphasis?

Meanwhile, i'll just jeep on feeling joy.

Many blessings on all who had a part in reuniting her with her family.

Sophia wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 6:39pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 6:15pm: Yes,definitely an Aboriginal,  so were the people who dobbed him in. Now the police are saying they wont pay the reward. Lot of disappointed bottleo's right there. That… is disrespectful, and like hell anyone will trust the police reward offer in future. People won’t forget this. A reward is due to the ones that did the right thing, whether they’re, black, white, green, drinkers or not…. they did “the right conscientious thing” for that little girl to get found.

Realistically, the informant should be proud to have done the right thing -- reward or not. If the reward was the only reason to have told the police about the child, then the informant would be wise not to complain if he is not given any reward. He could get accused of being an accessory to child abduction.

The likelihood is that whatever reward the police offer the informant will be down the track and undisclosed to the public.

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:24am:

Such wonderful news. Pure joy. It just breaks my heart to come here and see it being turned foul by the "usual suspects". To use one of the truly rare and precious feel-good stories the media relate as a platform for hatred and bigotry has me feeling deeply sorry for you. Imagine. to live a life where this is your emphasis? Meanwhile, i'll just jeep on feeling joy. Many blessings on all who had a part in reuniting her with her family.

Yeah, I was pretty disgusted by what I saw coming from the usual suspects.

Sickened, actually.

For once, we had a good news story that could unite the country and they used it to push their racist agenda and further divide us.

How utterly immoral must one be to exploit the kidnapping of a 4-year-old girl in a bid to score cheap political points? And on the day she was rescued. Just hours after the event.

Truly the dregs of society.

Anyway, good to see her back home and she looked to be in excellent health judging from the hospital photo.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 6:02am:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:24am: Such wonderful news. Pure joy. It just breaks my heart to come here and see it being turned foul by the "usual suspects". To use one of the truly rare and precious feel-good stories the media relate as a platform for hatred and bigotry has me feeling deeply sorry for you. Imagine. to live a life where this is your emphasis? Meanwhile, i'll just jeep on feeling joy. Many blessings on all who had a part in reuniting her with her family. Yeah, I was pretty disgusted by what I saw coming from the usual suspects. Sickened, actually. For once, we had a good news story that could unite the country and they used it to push their racist agenda and further divide us. How utterly immoral must one be to exploit the kidnapping of a 4-year-old girl in a bid to score cheap political points? And on the day she was rescued. Just hours after the event. Truly the dregs of society. Anyway, good to see her back home and she looked to be in excellent health judging from the hospital photo.

Greggy,
you're such a sanctimonious wind bag with your confected outrage -
always morally superior to everyone else.   ::)

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:35am:

Sophia wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 6:39pm: rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 6:15pm: Yes,definitely an Aboriginal,  so were the people who dobbed him in. Now the police are saying they wont pay the reward. Lot of disappointed bottleo's right there. That… is disrespectful, and like hell anyone will trust the police reward offer in future. People won’t forget this. A reward is due to the ones that did the right thing, whether they’re, black, white, green, drinkers or not…. they did “the right conscientious thing” for that little girl to get found. Realistically, the informant should be proud to have done the right thing -- reward or not. If the reward was the only reason to have told the police about the child, then the informant would be wise not to complain if he is not given any reward. He could get accused of being an accessory to child abduction. The likelihood is that whatever reward the police offer the informant will be down the track and undisclosed to the public.

Correct. That is exactly what happens.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 6:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 6:02am: mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:24am: Such wonderful news. Pure joy. It just breaks my heart to come here and see it being turned foul by the "usual suspects". To use one of the truly rare and precious feel-good stories the media relate as a platform for hatred and bigotry has me feeling deeply sorry for you. Imagine. to live a life where this is your emphasis? Meanwhile, i'll just jeep on feeling joy. Many blessings on all who had a part in reuniting her with her family. Yeah, I was pretty disgusted by what I saw coming from the usual suspects. Sickened, actually. For once, we had a good news story that could unite the country and they used it to push their racist agenda and further divide us. How utterly immoral must one be to exploit the kidnapping of a 4-year-old girl in a bid to score cheap political points? And on the day she was rescued. Just hours after the event. Truly the dregs of society. Anyway, good to see her back home and she looked to be in excellent health judging from the hospital photo. Greggy, you're such a sanctimonious wind bag with your confected outrage - always morally superior to everyone else.   ::)

How can a proven liar ever be morally superior to anyone???????

When ARE you leaving peccarhead?

You promised several years ago??????

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:50pm:

The police had stated they were told of the nappy buying which lead them to the house. the people interviewed were not necassarily the dobbers.

Sounds about right.  Not likely they'll parade their source and make him/her a public figure.  Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of the professionally outraged?  There may be some who seek revenge for this 'betrayal' of one of theirs.  People don't always think straight...

Maybe the person doesn't want to be known so as to not be mobbed by hangers-on....

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 6:02am:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:24am: Such wonderful news. Pure joy. It just breaks my heart to come here and see it being turned foul by the "usual suspects". To use one of the truly rare and precious feel-good stories the media relate as a platform for hatred and bigotry has me feeling deeply sorry for you. Imagine. to live a life where this is your emphasis? Meanwhile, i'll just jeep on feeling joy. Many blessings on all who had a part in reuniting her with her family. Yeah, I was pretty disgusted by what I saw coming from the usual suspects. Sickened, actually. For once, we had a good news story that could unite the country and they used it to push their racist agenda and further divide us. How utterly immoral must one be to exploit the kidnapping of a 4-year-old girl in a bid to score cheap political points? And on the day she was rescued. Just hours after the event. Truly the dregs of society. Anyway, good to see her back home and she looked to be in excellent health judging from the hospital photo.

Don't forget Greta.. they eat her for breakfast...


Greta got up on the forum,
She knew that she couldn't just bore 'em,
She said 'How Dare You!',
And - you started that flu!
No wonder she can't get a quorum.

My god!  How the money rolls in!  I've missed my career choices right there....

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:24am:

Such wonderful news. Pure joy. It just breaks my heart to come here and see it being turned foul by the "usual suspects". To use one of the truly rare and precious feel-good stories the media relate as a platform for hatred and bigotry has me feeling deeply sorry for you. Imagine. to live a life where this is your emphasis? Meanwhile, i'll just jeep on feeling joy. Many blessings on all who had a part in reuniting her with her family.

Yes, the race baiter should be banned

Shock! Conservative white man kidnapped Cleo Smith


Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 12:15pm:

Do all Ozpolitic conservative white men have an alibi? Will this result in Australians shunning and ostracizing conservative white males? No doubt this will elicit a lot of blathering and blubbering from Ozpolitic conservative bedwetters.

I notice the perp was taken to hospital after being injured in his holding cell, was that self inflicted injuries or done by others?

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 7:10am:

I notice the perp was taken to hospital after being injured in his holding cell, was that self inflicted injuries or done by others?

At least they took him to hospital - rare

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 8:34am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 7:10am: I notice the perp was taken to hospital after being injured in his holding cell, was that self inflicted injuries or done by others? At least they took him to hospital - rare Spot

Rubbish… you know it’s rare how?

Great news.

So glad little Cleo has been found safe and well.

Kudos to everyone involved in finding her, especially the WA Police.

Here we go, what a grub.

Jesinta Franklin has deleted an Instagram post that questioned if Cleo Smith would have been found on Wednesday if she was Indigenous.

https://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/jesinta-franklin-and-other-celebs-react-to-news-that-cleo-smith-has-been-found-alive/news-story/9a4557fd642dad7ce1fd9d7762e450a2

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 8:34am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 7:10am: I notice the perp was taken to hospital after being injured in his holding cell, was that self inflicted injuries or done by others? At least they took him to hospital - rare Spot

no that isnt rare, dkhed. Where they did stuff up was putting him in a cell with another prisoner, where he got bashed by said prisoner. Duty of care breached right there.

Probably shouldnt have posted that but it will come  out anyway.

rhino wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 10:30am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 8:34am: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 7:10am: I notice the perp was taken to hospital after being injured in his holding cell, was that self inflicted injuries or done by others? At least they took him to hospital - rare Spot no that isnt rare, dkhed. Where they did stuff up was putting him in a cell with another prisoner, where he got bashed by said prisoner. Duty of care breached right there.

Give that other prisoner a medal.

I thought someone said it was self harm, banging his head against the wall!

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 11:35am:

I thought someone said it was self harm, banging his head against the wall!

Getting prepared for the insanity plea.

Last I heard he hadn't been charged as he was mentally unstable. It is quite possible it is an impairment.

Police were deeply concerned that Aboriginal people in Carnarvon were being targeted and provoked by racists over the abduction of Cleo and they were also concerned by the possibility of violence within the local Aboriginal community as a direct result of the man’s alleged actions.

At the 2016 Census, Carnarvon had a population of 5528 and 18 per cent of residents were Indigenous. Nationwide, 2.8 per cent of Australians were Indigenous in 2016.

One Indigenous elder told the commissioner the search for Cleo made her feel the unity in Carnarvon.  “We are all part of this town and we all have that feeling for the little one and her parents,” she said.

I am half expecting the haters to come along and call me out as a conservative, white apologist for what I wrote above. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Seems it had nothing to do with the neighbours. The nappy thing was them putting two and two together after they caught him.

It wasn't a tip-off, it wasn't an accidental sighting, or pure chance.

"It was the hard work of the team that did it," said Detective Superintendent Rod Wilde, who led the 140-strong team that never gave up hope of finding Cleo.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-04/how-wa-police-found-cleo-smith/100592448

BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot

You're an idiot!

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot

Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise.

However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door?

How come they didn't know he wasn't home?

Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly?

Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office?

What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have?

Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description.

She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her.

Greg, I don't know about Carnarvon but a couple of people I know here in Perth who live in Department of Communities (Housing Authority) places have told me the Department doesn't have spare keys which probably explains why they have door locks fitted that make it impossible to lock the keys inside (you have to lock the door with the key when you go out).

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her.

Dear God!

That's just standard protocol. You conduct a raid because you don't know who or what is behind a door or in a house.

The child was ok. Nothing else matters.

She may have been caged and starved or .... found dead.

I'm too busy being thankful. Police have protocols and a duty of confidentiality wrt how they conduct investigations. If you don't understand these protocols ...good. You don't need to understand them. Nor are you required to know what they are.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her.

You are a sh1t for brains of the highest standard!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her. Dear God! That's just standard protocol. You conduct a raid because you don't know who or what is behind a door or in a house.

140 officers working on the case, and they didn't know she was in the house alone?

I wouldn't call that brilliant police work.

But, as I've said many times - the police still deserve high praise.

They returned the girl to her family, and that's all that matters.

bump

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her. You are a buggerwit of the highest standard! ;D ;D ;D ;D

For telling the truth?

140 officers working day and night on the case, and none of them could figure out that she was in the house alone.

Moreover, none of them knew how to pick the lock on an old weatherboard home.

High praise to them for getting her home safely, but they're being a little too dramatic.

Carl D wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

Greg, I don't know about Carnarvon but a couple of people I know here in Perth who live in Department of Communities (Housing Authority) places have told me the Department doesn't have spare keys which probably explains why they have door locks fitted that make it impossible to lock the keys inside (you have to lock the door with the key when you go out).

That's cool - no spare keys then.

But seriously, how easy would it be to get inside an old weatherboard house in Carnarvon?

There wouldn't be any need to "force down the door".

Especially when you know she's in there on her own - the noise would scare her, and that's the last thing you'd want to do.

The only reason they'd need to "force down the door" is if they knew the abductor was inside and they had to act fast.

I'm finding it a little hard to believe that the 140 officers working around the clock couldn't figure out that she was in the house alone.

A lot not adding up.

But, the most important thing is she's safe and for that the coppers deserve high praise.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her.

You should Spot's flying banner at the bottom of all your posts, too, tujdy. He's supplanted Bbwian as your mentor.

1am

Finally had an address to raid

Oh hang on we had better get the spare keys to the house!

Perhaps we should wait until tomorrow

OK Inspector Peccar the wanker!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I wonder why The Drunk Driver wanted the girl inside the house a moment longer than necessary?

Going in heavy with shock and awe is the only way for a situation like that.

Black's doors matter?

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:59pm:

1am Finally had an address to raid Oh hang on we had better get the spare keys to the house! Perhaps we should wait until tomorrow OK Inspector Peccar the wanker! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Black doors matter :)

bump

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:55pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:22pm: Greg, I don't know about Carnarvon but a couple of people I know here in Perth who live in Department of Communities (Housing Authority) places have told me the Department doesn't have spare keys which probably explains why they have door locks fitted that make it impossible to lock the keys inside (you have to lock the door with the key when you go out). That's cool - no spare keys then. But seriously, how easy would it be to get inside an old weatherboard house in Carnarvon? There wouldn't be any need to "force down the door". Especially when you know she's in there on her own - the noise would scare her, and that's the last thing you'd want to do. The only reason they'd need to "force down the door" is if they knew the abductor was inside and they had to act fast. I'm finding it a little hard to believe that the 140 officers working around the clock couldn't figure out that she was in the house alone. A lot not adding up. But, the most important thing is she's safe and for that the coppers deserve high praise.

Come on, tujdy, come out with what you are really thinking  - Trump told the coppers what to do.  Tsk, tsk  ::) ::)

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot

You’re full of shyte.

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 2:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot You're an idiot!

No, he's speaking from personal experience. They have not rescued him from his mum's basement he locked himself in and he's sure they are not even looking for him.

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:59pm:

1am Finally had an address to raid Oh hang on we had better get the spare keys to the house! Perhaps we should wait until tomorrow OK Inspector Peccar the wanker! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Why did 140 officers working around the clock for 18 days not know that she was alone in the house?

It wasn't a tip off - it was all down to detective work.

They figured out who they guy was, they figured out where he lived, but they couldn't figure out if he was home or not.

It doesn't add up.

It may be a deliberate tactic, not to give us all the correct information, as they may be looking for an accomplice or something else - we don't know.

They deserve high praise for getting her home, and I hope they were all paid triple-time for their efforts, but there's no need to "force down the door" of an old weatherboard house in Carnarvon when the only person inside is a 4-year-old girl.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her. Dear God! That's just standard protocol. You conduct a raid because you don't know who or what is behind a door or in a house. 140 officers working on the case, and they didn't know she was in the house alone? I wouldn't call that brilliant police work. But, as I've said many times - the police still deserve high praise. They returned the girl to her family, and that's all that matters.

You watch too much TV

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:10pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:59pm: 1am Finally had an address to raid Oh hang on we had better get the spare keys to the house! Perhaps we should wait until tomorrow OK Inspector Peccar the wanker! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Why did 140 officers working around the clock for 18 days not know that she was alone in the house? It wasn't a tip off - it was all down to detective work. They figured out who they guy was, they figured out where he lived, but they couldn't figure out if he was home or not. It doesn't add up. It may be a deliberate tactic, not to give us all the correct information, as they may be looking for an accomplice or something else - we don't know. They deserve high praise for getting her home, and I hope they were all paid triple-time for their efforts, but there's no need to "force down the door" of an old weatherboard house in Carnarvon when the only person inside is a 4-year-old girl.

So much dancing... Carnarvon is cyclone country, the houses are brick or at least build to cyclonic conditions, there goes your excuse. The rest is just more dancing around apologising for a stupid comment you made.

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her. Dear God! That's just standard protocol. You conduct a raid because you don't know who or what is behind a door or in a house. 140 officers working on the case, and they didn't know she was in the house alone? I wouldn't call that brilliant police work. But, as I've said many times - the police still deserve high praise. They returned the girl to her family, and that's all that matters. You watch too much TV

140 officers working on the case, for 18 days around the clock, and they didn't know she was in the house alone.

Doesn't add up.

Like I say though, they might be deliberately deceiving us in the interests of the case.

Plus, I haven't actually heard a police officer say they "forced down the door" - I've only seen it in news reports and heard dickhead news reporters say it (one on the ABC did it just minutes ago: "The police busted down the door").

Maybe they're the ones being a bit too dramatic.

Maybe the police did know she was in there alone, and maybe they did simply pick the old Lockwood lock and walk calmly inside.

Anyway, I hope they're paid triple-time and given plenty of TOIL.

She's home safe, and that's all that matters.

Setanta wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 4:10pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:59pm: 1am Finally had an address to raid Oh hang on we had better get the spare keys to the house! Perhaps we should wait until tomorrow OK Inspector Peccar the wanker! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Why did 140 officers working around the clock for 18 days not know that she was alone in the house? It wasn't a tip off - it was all down to detective work. They figured out who they guy was, they figured out where he lived, but they couldn't figure out if he was home or not. It doesn't add up. It may be a deliberate tactic, not to give us all the correct information, as they may be looking for an accomplice or something else - we don't know. They deserve high praise for getting her home, and I hope they were all paid triple-time for their efforts, but there's no need to "force down the door" of an old weatherboard house in Carnarvon when the only person inside is a 4-year-old girl. So much dancing... Carnarvon is cyclone country, the houses are brick or at least build to cyclonic conditions, there goes your excuse. The rest is just more dancing around apologising for a stupid comment you made.

Lol

You've obviously never been to Carnarvon.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 4:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 4:10pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:59pm: 1am Finally had an address to raid Oh hang on we had better get the spare keys to the house! Perhaps we should wait until tomorrow OK Inspector Peccar the wanker! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Why did 140 officers working around the clock for 18 days not know that she was alone in the house? It wasn't a tip off - it was all down to detective work. They figured out who they guy was, they figured out where he lived, but they couldn't figure out if he was home or not. It doesn't add up. It may be a deliberate tactic, not to give us all the correct information, as they may be looking for an accomplice or something else - we don't know. They deserve high praise for getting her home, and I hope they were all paid triple-time for their efforts, but there's no need to "force down the door" of an old weatherboard house in Carnarvon when the only person inside is a 4-year-old girl. So much dancing... Carnarvon is cyclone country, the houses are brick or at least build to cyclonic conditions, there goes your excuse. The rest is just more dancing around apologising for a stupid comment you made. Lol You've obviously never been to Carnarvon.

I'm from Perth and yes I've been to Carnarvon. What are you loling about or is your comment supposed to portray the obvious?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 2:02pm: BS. Propaganda. the cops dont give a rats if they find anyone and definitely dont risk their own hides rescuing Spot Again, I'm not putting poo on the cops. They rescued her, and that's good no matter how you look at it. They deserve praise. However, if this wasn't from a tip-off but instead the good detective work of 140 officers, why did they need to force down the door? How come they didn't know he wasn't home? Why didn't they just pick the lock and walk in calmly? Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? What sort of solid, heavy-duty security door this this state government housing authority home actually have? Again, full marks to the coppers - they got the girl, and that's all that matters, but I think they might be getting a little dramatic with the rescue description. She was alone inside and old weatherboard state-housing home, and they walked in and retrieved her. Dear God! That's just standard protocol. You conduct a raid because you don't know who or what is behind a door or in a house.

uh , no. Not standard procedure, standard procedure is to create a SMEAC and act in accordance with that. Peccas right, these coppers are grandstanding.

Houses in Canarvon are mainly fibro.

rhino wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:51pm:

Houses in Canarvon are mainly fibro.

I used to weld steel frames for cyclone resistant prefabs for up north, the housing needed to meet regulation. There are probably weatherboard houses/buildings up there as Gregg said but they would not be housing. I suppose in that case the cops should have just gone straight through the wall.

I think you will find  those old state housing  abodes are all fibro. Like Pt Hedland , South Hedland the old area all old fibro, the newer areas cyclone proof.

rhino wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2021 at 8:50pm:

The police had stated they were told of the nappy buying which lead them to the house. the people interviewed were not necassarily the dobbers.

Police haven't said specifically what led them to her, but this morning on the news they were singing high praises for two police officers tracking the data from the mobile phone tower nearest the campsite. I suspect that he was found because his mobile phone pinged the mobile tower nearest the campsite  at 3am on the morning she disappeared.

The details will be sure to come out later I'm sure. There is to much public interest to not reveal details.

rhino wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:02pm:

I think you will find  those old state housing  abodes are all fibro. Like Pt Hedland , South Hedland the old area all old fibro, the newer areas cyclone proof.

That'd be all good but I was doing that in about 1979. Cyclone Tracy brought in regs for buildings up north. All I can go on now are pics of the town today and they don't look fibro..

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 11:35am:

I thought someone said it was self harm, banging his head against the wall!

thats just the excuse his cell mate gave the cops :D

Everyone you meet brings up the subject of Cleo....Everyone is genuinely happy the little girl was found safe....The police did their job and deserve the praise of the public for their efforts....The best outcome one could have hoped for!!!

:) :) :) 

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office?

housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:11pm:

Everyone you meet brings up the subject of Cleo....Everyone is genuinely happy the little girl was found safe....The police did their job and deserve the praise of the public for their efforts....The best outcome one could have hoped for!!! :) :) :)

Agree .... the main thing is she is safe.

There is plenty of time later for the who, why and what.

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW

Yeah, my bad.

I don't know any Housos  ;)

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:05pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 8:50pm: The police had stated they were told of the nappy buying which lead them to the house. the people interviewed were not necassarily the dobbers. Police haven't said specifically what led them to her,

yes they have, a tip off from the public. 

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but this morning on the news they were singing high praises for two police officers tracking the data from the mobile phone tower nearest the campsite. I suspect that he was found because his mobile phone pinged the mobile tower nearest the campsite  at 3am on the morning she disappeared. The details will be sure to come out later I'm sure. There is to much public interest to not reveal details.

Its already out, that is just obfuscation on their part, they have stated from the beginning it was a tip off from the public. I am completely unsure as to why you and others are questioning this, its not an argument, the police stated right from the beginning it was a tip off from the public.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;)

How very Labor and egalitarian of you.

rhino wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

I am completely unsure as to why you and others are questioning this,

Because in every interview with police I've seen, they have denied that it was the result of a tip off that led to him.

Having said that, the last interview I saw was at 5am this morning so if anything has changed since then  Im unaware of it

Setanta wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you.

so you think every labor voter has to know a houso?

What sort of stupidity is that?

Does every liberal voter know a multimillionaire? :D :D

Faark me dead you say some stupid things sometimes.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:11pm:

Everyone you meet brings up the subject of Cleo....Everyone is genuinely happy the little girl was found safe....The police did their job and deserve the praise of the public for their efforts....The best outcome one could have hoped for!!! :) :) :)

That's basically what Sydney is raving on about.

We're sooo relieved for the little girl and of course her entire family.

🙏

Setanta wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you.

😂🤣😆

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: Everyone you meet brings up the subject of Cleo....Everyone is genuinely happy the little girl was found safe....The police did their job and deserve the praise of the public for their efforts....The best outcome one could have hoped for!!! :) :) :)  That's basically what Sydney is raving on about. We're sooo relieved for the little girl and of course her entire family. 🙏

I was speaking with a NSW Police detective yesterday and he said they were recieving 100s of tips a day in NSW!

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. 😂🤣😆

Not all Labor voters are houso, but all houso are Labor voters  ;D

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. so you think every labor voter has to know a houso? What sort of stupidity is that? Does every liberal voter know a multimillionaire? :D :D Faark me dead you say some stupid things sometimes.

Every Liberal (and every other voter for that matter) probably does know a multimillionaire. A knock down dump on a small block of land in our suburb recently sold for $2.2 million.

My point is this : You have to be a multi millionaire now just to buy a fixer upper/knock down job in most parts of Sydney.

Gordon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:46pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: Everyone you meet brings up the subject of Cleo....Everyone is genuinely happy the little girl was found safe....The police did their job and deserve the praise of the public for their efforts....The best outcome one could have hoped for!!! :) :) :)  That's basically what Sydney is raving on about. We're sooo relieved for the little girl and of course her entire family. 🙏 I was speaking with a NSW Police detective yesterday and he said they were recieving 100s of tips a day in NSW!

My cousin IS a police detective here in Sydney and he essentially stated the same thing.

The case touched everyone.

Our church held special prayers for the child and her family.

What a miracle!

What a living story of hope.

From what I gather ...the guy in question is going to rely on the Mental Health Act.

Gordon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. 😂🤣😆 Not all Labor voters are houso, but all houso are Labor voters  ;D

Wouldn't that be an interesting statistic to see....

Flick

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. so you think every labor voter has to know a houso? What sort of stupidity is that? Does every liberal voter know a multimillionaire? :D :D Faark me dead you say some stupid things sometimes.

I know both.  :-/

Setanta wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. so you think every labor voter has to know a houso? What sort of stupidity is that? Does every liberal voter know a multimillionaire? :D :D Faark me dead you say some stupid things sometimes. I know both.  :-/

you didn't answer my question

Gordon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. 😂🤣😆 Not all Labor voters are houso, but all houso are Labor voters  ;D

actually, they're not. But you keep making it up as you go you fool  :D :D

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: Everyone you meet brings up the subject of Cleo....Everyone is genuinely happy the little girl was found safe....The police did their job and deserve the praise of the public for their efforts....The best outcome one could have hoped for!!! :) :) :)  That's basically what Sydney is raving on about. We're sooo relieved for the little girl and of course her entire family. 🙏 I was speaking with a NSW Police detective yesterday and he said they were recieving 100s of tips a day in NSW! My cousin IS a police detective here in Sydney and he essentially stated the same thing. The case touched everyone. Our church held special prayers for the child and her family. What a miracle! What a living story of hope. From what I gather ...the guy in question is going to rely on the Mental Health Act.

What? Lol.

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 6:23pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. so you think every labor voter has to know a houso? What sort of stupidity is that? Does every liberal voter know a multimillionaire? :D :D Faark me dead you say some stupid things sometimes. I know both.  :-/ you didn't answer my question

No, I didn't. I should and will.
It's hardly becoming of Gregg to screech about unfair treatment of others when his own words ooze class discrimination.

Setanta wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 7:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 6:50pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 6:23pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:35pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:16pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 5:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Or get the spare keys from the housing authority office? housing authorities don't keep spares ... at least not in NSW Yeah, my bad. I don't know any Housos  ;) How very Labor and egalitarian of you. so you think every labor voter has to know a houso? What sort of stupidity is that? Does every liberal voter know a multimillionaire? :D :D Faark me dead you say some stupid things sometimes. I know both.  :-/ you didn't answer my question No, I didn't. I should and will. It's hardly becoming of Gregg to screech about unfair treatment of others when his own words ooze class discrimination.

not knowing someone is 'oozing class discrimination'?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

thats desperate even for you

The mental health defense is overused, but I reckon in this case, he's a total nutter.

He collects dolls, Cleo has a little doll face. He wanted a human doll to play with.

https://i.ibb.co/JqmsmKw/dec04d2e74272c6780d34296e3f06cd850066c47.jpg

Anyone want to go for predictions on sentencing? Presuming he will only be charged with child abduction.

As  I said much earlier he may have an impairment. It could be foetal alcohol syndrome. but I'm no expert.

Let's wait for something concrete. Rather than rants.

He doesn't seem to have harmed her in any way physically.

wheres the rant? Wrong thread?

lee wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 7:48pm:

As  I said much earlier he may have an impairment. It could be foetal alcohol syndrome. but I'm no expert. Let's wait for something concrete. Rather than rants. He doesn't seem to have harmed her in any way physically.

The crimes of foetal alcohol syndrome sufferers are things linked to impulsivity, anger managment. Not keeping and caring for a kid for nearly 2 weeks.