PM to personally introduce religious discrimination bill, as moderate Liberals remain concerned with details - oh, dear...  ::) ::)

Oh dear  ::)

"In a free society, men and women should be able to express their point of view without people running off to government authorities saying, 'Oh, I feel offended about what somebody said'."

Some people are 'concerned' about that. Tsk, tsk   ::) ::)



If I was interviewing for a job and had an Australian applicant with no tats, facial ironmongery, green hair etc, a niqabi/bearded son of Mohammed and a raging LGBT/climate activist with tats and tongue stud and pink hair I would choose the best candidate for the job - the normal, nice Australian. Who wants to turn away customers?

Would I need to hide behind some religious shield? Yes - but I shouldn't have to. But we now need legislation to keep in check the snarling 'equity' mongers who are twiggered by everything and call every different view supremacists, colonialist, oppressive.


"The better the society, the less law there will be. In Heaven there will be no law, and the lion will lie down with the lamb. The values of an unjust society will reflect themselves in an unjust law. The worse the society, the more law there will be. In Hell there will be nothing but law, and due process will be meticulously observed."
Just so.

Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 5:15pm:

Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

Rational arguments work on no one where someone's faith is concerned and is being threatened... And not just religious faith.

If someone's taken on anything as a matter of faith, they will offer you no criteria of falsifiability.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 5:15pm:

Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

It's not an exemption.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 5:15pm:

Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

:D :D ;D ;D ;D

Now it's writers of TV soaps that provide intellectual authority for the likes of Pill!!!

Books, learning - toooo hard, innit? 'I know what I like, I do" 'e sayz. Gimme a RATIONAL soapy and I'm 'appy. They do the RATIONAL finkin' for me! what's not to like, eh, rational-like."

I'm going to laugh when the same people calling for this bill, will be crying out for harsher penalties when some Islamic extremist uses this bill for their own ends  ;D ;D ;D

Frank wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 5:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:15pm: Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007 :D :D ;D ;D ;D Now it's writers of TV soaps that provide intellectual authority for the likes of Pill!!! Books, learning - toooo hard, innit? 'I know what I like, I do" 'e sayz. Gimme a RATIONAL soapy and I'm 'appy. They do the RATIONAL finkin' for me! what's not to like, eh, rational-like."

Is it always intellectual outrage with you?

No humour? Just the schoolmaster from 'Another Brick in the Wall'?

Q.
If it goes through the Australian parliament, will all of my OzPol posts relating to followers of ISLAM have to be removed,
because 'now' they will be too offensive [to moslems] to be able to be expressed ?

What say you brian ?



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Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

Quote:

MY ARGUMENT; 1/ Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM. 2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must fight and kill people, who reject ISLAM, and reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law. And, a new attack is going to occur whenever      any individual moslem [living among us, in Australia] decides that 'now' is a good moment for him to prove his devotion to ISLAM and to Allah.

Quote:

116. Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

The Constitution may have something to say about this.

Frank wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 5:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:15pm: Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007 :D :D ;D ;D ;D Now it's writers of TV soaps that provide intellectual authority for the likes of Pill!!! Books, learning - toooo hard, innit? 'I know what I like, I do" 'e sayz. Gimme a RATIONAL soapy and I'm 'appy. They do the RATIONAL finkin' for me! what's not to like, eh, rational-like."

I stated my opinion ya dickhead....You are either stupid or ignorant....My guess is both!!!

::) ::) ::)

Bam wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Quote: 116. Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth. The Constitution may have something to say about this.

I thought that at first, but I think what they're proposing isn't prohibited by that Section.

Now, this is going to come as huge surprise but I heard an interview with Michaelia Cash this afternoon, on this subject, and she actually made some sense and was quite articulate.

Make no mistake though, I'm no fan of hers.  And, I'm an atheist.

Personally, if a Catholic school wants to hire only Catholic teachers, I don't have a huge problem with that.

I wonder if the Valkies/Gordons/Franks of the world feel the same way about Muslim schools.

Bam wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Quote: 116. Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth. The Constitution may have something to say about this.

You mean the Kaffir can't claim religious rights over Ayers Rock and Mt Warning and so forth?  buggar... that'll upset 'em no end... and just when they thought they had the idiots in government on the ropes.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 6:30pm:

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 6:15pm: Quote: 116. Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth. The Constitution may have something to say about this. I thought that at first, but I think what they're proposing isn't prohibited by that Section. Now, this is going to come as huge surprise but I heard an interview with Michaelia Cash this afternoon, on this subject, and she actually made some sense and was quite articulate. Make no mistake though, I'm no fan of hers.  And, I'm an atheist. Personally, if a Catholic school wants to hire only Catholic teachers, I don't have a huge problem with that. I wonder if the Valkies/Gordons/Franks of the world feel the same way about Muslim schools.

I have no problem with religious schools or institutions being able to hire people of their faith which they already do....Why do we need to waste time on a perception when there is no problem....I am agnostic by the way!!!

:) :) :)

From what I read of it.

Muzzos will be unhappy with the bill.

No more calling Christians infidels and demanding beheadings

No more demanding the death of Jews.

No more intolerance of other religions in any way.

However, it's quite alright to point out the flaws in sociopath terrorists.

Valkie wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:22pm:

From what I read of it. Muzzos will be unhappy with the bill. No more calling Christians infidels and demanding beheadings No more demanding the death of Jews. No more intolerance of other religions in any way. However, it's quite alright to point out the flaws in sociopath terrorists.

Valkie's hero:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F9FD/production/_114079936_hi063016148.jpg

Remember, Valkie and Gordon both said that he didn't kill enough.

Don't know who it is.

But obviously Jimpeccar does

By the way Jimpecca , you are leaving the forum when????????

You wouldn't want to be know as a welcher who won't keep his word, do You?

Remember, Trump won, fair and square.
You said you woukd leave if he won.
Welllllllllll......he won, but your still here,

Obviously an oversight on your behalf.
I'm sure you will fulfill your bet soon......yes?

And take your socks with you.

Valkie wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:29pm:

Don't know who it is. But obviously Jimpeccar does By the way Jimpecca , you are leaving the forum when???????? You wouldn't want to be know as a welcher who won't keep his word, do You? Remember, Trump won, fair and square. You said you woukd leave if he won. Welllllllllll......he won, but your still here, Obviously an oversight on your behalf. I'm sure you will fulfill your bet soon......yes? And take your socks with you.

This is why it's clear you left school at 15.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:38pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 7:29pm: Don't know who it is. But obviously Jimpeccar does By the way Jimpecca , you are leaving the forum when???????? You wouldn't want to be know as a welcher who won't keep his word, do You? Remember, Trump won, fair and square. You said you woukd leave if he won. Welllllllllll......he won, but your still here, Obviously an oversight on your behalf. I'm sure you will fulfill your bet soon......yes? And take your socks with you. This is why it's clear you left school at 15.

14

Guaranteed.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:26pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 7:22pm: From what I read of it. Muzzos will be unhappy with the bill. No more calling Christians infidels and demanding beheadings No more demanding the death of Jews. No more intolerance of other religions in any way. However, it's quite alright to point out the flaws in sociopath terrorists. Valkie's hero: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F9FD/production/_114079936_hi063016148.jpg Remember, Valkie and Gordon both said that he didn't kill enough.

See how Valkie didn't deny it?

Valkie is a terrorist sympathiser.

Only might is right

Another conundrum to make the usual suspects heads explode. ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:26pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 7:22pm: From what I read of it. Muzzos will be unhappy with the bill. No more calling Christians infidels and demanding beheadings No more demanding the death of Jews. No more intolerance of other religions in any way. However, it's quite alright to point out the flaws in sociopath terrorists. Valkie's hero: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F9FD/production/_114079936_hi063016148.jpg Remember, Valkie and Gordon both said that he didn't kill enough.

You are a stupid, vapid mong, muppet.   Muslims jihadists are not killing people ' for no reason', just as terrorists killing Norwegian pro-immigration youth or NZ Muslims are not killing for 'no reason'.

You are moron enough to yap and snarl but if you do not look for reasons - NOT justifications, reasons - then you are just the same old shitey, yappy idiot that you have always been.  Posting memes and pics is not reasoning, turd.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:26pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 7:22pm: From what I read of it. Muzzos will be unhappy with the bill. No more calling Christians infidels and demanding beheadings No more demanding the death of Jews. No more intolerance of other religions in any way. However, it's quite alright to point out the flaws in sociopath terrorists. Valkie's hero: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F9FD/production/_114079936_hi063016148.jpg Remember, Valkie and Gordon both said that he didn't kill enough.

Disgraceful, did they say the same when 59 died and 524 were injured by a white male Christian in Las Vegas ?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 8:57pm:

Another conundrum to make the usual suspects heads explode. ;D

It won't affect me but I fail to see the need for it....Religion is a personal choice???

:-? :-? :-?

Labor majority government wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 4:36pm:

Oh dear  ::)

;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 10:20pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 8:57pm: Another conundrum to make the usual suspects heads explode. ;D It won't affect me but I fail to see the need for it....Religion is a personal choice??? :-? :-? :-?

Aye, and in our society you keep it to yourself and respect the right of others to have their beliefs.  Therein lies the rub....

BTW - I left school at 15... Leaving Certificate and bound for med school... but the family, as usual, disintegrated... madness on all sides... lunatics laughing at me from the woods... you had to know them.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 6:25pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:51pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:15pm: Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007 :D :D ;D ;D ;D Now it's writers of TV soaps that provide intellectual authority for the likes of Pill!!! Books, learning - toooo hard, innit? 'I know what I like, I do" 'e sayz. Gimme a RATIONAL soapy and I'm 'appy. They do the RATIONAL finkin' for me! what's not to like, eh, rational-like." I stated my opinion ya dickhead....You are either stupid or ignorant....My guess is both!!! ::) ::) ::)

And I ridiculed your opinion and your laughable authority for it.

The Tasmanian Anti-discrimination law, regarded as the best by the woke-mongers, enabled a tranny to complain about the Catholic Church preferring normal marriage to gay marriage!
https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/transgender-rights-activist-martine-delaney-drops-complaint-over-catholic-churchs-marriage-booklet/news-story/d8d9079bf932526b27e5f094e57dbe84

Slomo trying to get us living in mud huts and greeting each other with "Ugh".

Frank wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 12:59pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 6:25pm: Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:51pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:15pm: Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007 :D :D ;D ;D ;D Now it's writers of TV soaps that provide intellectual authority for the likes of Pill!!! Books, learning - toooo hard, innit? 'I know what I like, I do" 'e sayz. Gimme a RATIONAL soapy and I'm 'appy. They do the RATIONAL finkin' for me! what's not to like, eh, rational-like." I stated my opinion ya dickhead....You are either stupid or ignorant....My guess is both!!! ::) ::) ::) And I ridiculed your opinion and your laughable authority for it. The Tasmanian Anti-discrimination law, regarded as the best by the woke-mongers, enabled a tranny to complain about the Catholic Church preferring normal marriage to gay marriage! https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/transgender-rights-activist-martine-delaney-drops-complaint-over-catholic-churchs-marriage-booklet/news-story/d8d9079bf932526b27e5f094e57dbe84

As I said it would allow stupid, racist dickheads like you the right to vilify and discriminate against individuals who don't fit your narrow bigoted stereotype....Why would anyone support giving voice to cretins like you???

:-? :-? :-?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 7:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 7:26pm: Valkie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 7:22pm: From what I read of it. Muzzos will be unhappy with the bill. No more calling Christians infidels and demanding beheadings No more demanding the death of Jews. No more intolerance of other religions in any way. However, it's quite alright to point out the flaws in sociopath terrorists. Valkie's hero: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F9FD/production/_114079936_hi063016148.jpg Remember, Valkie and Gordon both said that he didn't kill enough. See how Valkie didn't deny it? Valkie is a terrorist sympathiser.

Really, and you have some sort of evidence to that assumption perhaps.

I'm curious, show us?
By the way Jimpecca , you are leaving the forum when????????

You wouldn't want to be know as a welcher who won't keep his word, do You?

Remember, Trump won, fair and square.
You said you woukd leave if he won.
Welllllllllll......he won, but your still here,

Obviously an oversight on your behalf.
I'm sure you will fulfill your bet soon......yes?

And take your socks with you.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 3:40pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 12:59pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 6:25pm: Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:51pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:15pm: Exemptions for Religious beliefs....Na....Too complicated, unnecessary, counter productive and open to abuse by those who use religion to promote hate!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007 :D :D ;D ;D ;D Now it's writers of TV soaps that provide intellectual authority for the likes of Pill!!! Books, learning - toooo hard, innit? 'I know what I like, I do" 'e sayz. Gimme a RATIONAL soapy and I'm 'appy. They do the RATIONAL finkin' for me! what's not to like, eh, rational-like." I stated my opinion ya dickhead....You are either stupid or ignorant....My guess is both!!! ::) ::) ::) And I ridiculed your opinion and your laughable authority for it. The Tasmanian Anti-discrimination law, regarded as the best by the woke-mongers, enabled a tranny to complain about the Catholic Church preferring normal marriage to gay marriage! https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/transgender-rights-activist-martine-delaney-drops-complaint-over-catholic-churchs-marriage-booklet/news-story/d8d9079bf932526b27e5f094e57dbe84 As I said it would allow stupid, racist dickheads like you the right to vilify and discriminate against individuals who don't fit your narrow bigoted stereotype....Why would anyone support giving voice to cretins like you??? :-? :-? :-?

What would Phil? You always seem to be short on the details. Have you read the article?