A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct.


The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission.

as our wise friend Zuby noted


17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

Zuby needs to be told, those who speak in absolutes are either ignorant or liars or both.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. Zuby needs to be told, those who speak in absolutes are either ignorant or liars or both.

are you referring to politicians who say

"always believe the science"?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:04pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:03pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. Zuby needs to be told, those who speak in absolutes are either ignorant or liars or both. are you referring to politicians who say "always believe the science"?

No... 'industries are all corrupt'.

What's his evidence? Gut feel? Or empty propaganda for sale.

It's not saying anything really... Zuby's a self-promoter of facile drivel... The idiot's smart person...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

A leading cancer scientist, eh?

The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear.

Never believe the fake news media, ya?

Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong.

Karnal wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong.

youre right

the ABC is fake news
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:04pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:03pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. Zuby needs to be told, those who speak in absolutes are either ignorant or liars or both. are you referring to politicians who say "always believe the science"? No... 'industries are all corrupt'. What's his evidence? Gut feel? Or empty propaganda for sale. It's not saying anything really... Zuby's a self-promoter of facile drivel... The idiot's smart person...

zuby understands you well north

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:13pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:04pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:03pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. Zuby needs to be told, those who speak in absolutes are either ignorant or liars or both. are you referring to politicians who say "always believe the science"? No... 'industries are all corrupt'. What's his evidence? Gut feel? Or empty propaganda for sale. It's not saying anything really... Zuby's a self-promoter of facile drivel... The idiot's smart person... zuby understands you well north 8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

Well, that would necessarily apply to him wouldn't it.

Once you use absolutes, you're convinced. It becomes a matter of faith.

All, every, none... Faith not science.

Science is written with a pencil. Faith is carved in stone.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 12:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

at last we can agree.

i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda.

congrats

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 12:18am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. at last we can agree. i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda. congrats

Irony ain't your thing...

Does Zuby explain how he's sure access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser?... Notwithstanding that wisdom usually comes with age...

It's like the old joke... When I was 18, my father knew nothing... Now that I'm 30, it's amazing how much dad has learned in 12 years.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 2:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 12:18am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. at last we can agree. i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda. congrats Irony ain't your thing...

You do like this particular switcheroo -

1.  poster attempts counter-argument
2.  counter argument shot down in flames
3   you, invested in 1. but not honest enough to admit 2 ("the art of being unconvincing..." etc),  look at your shoes and yammer about irony and sense of humour.

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 4:57pm:

3   you, invested in 1. but not honest enough to admit 2 ("the art of being unconvincing..." etc),  look at your shoes and yammer about irony and sense of humour.

So I got you on the humour thing, then.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 12:18am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. at last we can agree. i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda. congrats

The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better.

A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios.

Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA.

You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity?

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 4:58pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 4:57pm: 3   you, invested in 1. but not honest enough to admit 2 ("the art of being unconvincing..." etc),  look at your shoes and yammer about irony and sense of humour. So I got you on the humour thing, then.

Well, I am smiling, you are shuffling and squirming.  Are you having fun?

Is that funny?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 2:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 12:18am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. at last we can agree. i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda. congrats The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better. A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios. Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA. You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity? 2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no?

Paki/Martini, you are once again passing the ball only you see to people who are not there.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 2:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 12:18am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. at last we can agree. i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda. congrats The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better. A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios. Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA. You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity? 2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no?

journalism is dead.

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

they are irrelevant.

an ABC journo might reach a few thousand minds,
with 10 second sound bites.

Joe rogan has 3 hour podcasts, 2000 of them, discussing issues with politicians,authors, actors, business people, scientists and they average over 10 million views each on you tube and 10 x that as listened to podcasts on spotify.

that 3 hours x 2000 x 10,000,000 x 10
thats 600 billion hours of news content shared by jo.

all the ABC journos who have ever lived, combined would approach maybe 1 % of one mans influence.

stop any random person under 30 in the street and ask then to name an ABC journo?

i bet they cant name one.

insignificant irrelevant and bitter and twisted because celebrity bloggers took their jobs

Thank god you're back, karnal...

He's being groomed by a certain poster here who, unfortunately for him, is a woman.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:36pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 2:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 12:18am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:58pm: A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct. The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission. as our wise friend Zuby noted 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. A leading cancer scientist, eh? The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear. Never believe the fake news media, ya? Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong. youre right the ABC is fake news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-investigation/100646988 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. at last we can agree. i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda. congrats The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better. A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios. Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA. You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity? 2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no? Paki/Martini, you are once again passing the ball only you see to people who are not there.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Thank god you're back, karnal... He's being groomed by a certain poster here who, unfortunately for him, is a woman.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:57pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: Thank god you're back, karnal... He's being groomed by a certain poster here who, unfortunately for him, is a woman. 9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

Yeah? Not those kind of behaviours... If Zuby's talking about reversing the order of buttoning up a shirt, then... maybe.

Quote:

Always Believe the science ??

No, I'd prefer to believe a failed horse farmer  ::)

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 12:18am:

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

In many cases it's had the opposite effect

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Go sparse on adverbs... They weaken the punch, he answered advisedly.

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter.

Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter

10 x
people get their advice from the likes of AOC

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:02pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter. Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter 10 x people get their advice from the likes of AOC

Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'.

What would Zuby think?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 7:02pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter. Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter 10 x people get their advice from the likes of AOC Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'. What would Zuby think?

i think zuby would recognise what aquascoot recognises.

without the evolutionary blowtorch, people will follow the path of least resistance and all that will matter to them is "pleasuring themselves"

governments have infantalised people by removing all pressure.

people now view discomfort as a failure of government to keep them comfortable

what follows is predictable

sugar, fat, sloth , celebration of victimhood, inaction, porn, gambling, family disintegration, whining , sooking, complaining, the cry baby narrative and the life of pure garbage.

if you wont put the blowtorch on yourself, no one is going to do it for you.

failure is the norm
garbage is the default.

an individual who has led a garbage life has extreme death anxiety because he has done nothing, produced nothing, risked nothing and been nothing.

the superior man is satisfied with his life and happy to melt away
he is hunbled by the challenges he has overcome

the mediocre man is deeply frustrated by his life and clings to it as if it is the most important thing in the universe.
he has overcome no challenges and the greatest challenge (his own mortality) obviously terrifies him.

he should have prepared by confronting challenge every hour of every day.

he didnt

now his life is a trainwreck

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 7:07pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 7:02pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter. Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter 10 x people get their advice from the likes of AOC Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'. What would Zuby think? i think zuby would recognise what aquascoot recognises. without the evolutionary blowtorch, people will follow the path of least resistance and all that will matter to them is "pleasuring themselves" governments have infantalised people by removing all pressure. people now view discomfort as a failure of government to keep them comfortable what follows is predictable sugar, fat, sloth , celebration of victimhood, inaction, porn, gambling, family disintegration, whining , sooking, complaining, the cry baby narrative and the life of pure garbage. if you wont put the blowtorch on yourself, no one is going to do it for you. failure is the norm garbage is the default. an individual who has led a garbage life has extreme death anxiety because he has done nothing, produced nothing, risked nothing and been nothing. the superior man is satisfied with his life and happy to melt away he is hunbled by the challenges he has overcome the mediocre man is deeply frustrated by his life and clings to it as if it is the most important thing in the universe. he has overcome no challenges and the greatest challenge (his own mortality) obviously terrifies him. he should have prepared by confronting challenge every hour of every day. he didnt now his life is a trainwreck

Well, kooky talk like that got Socrates executed, but created a Plato.

Would Zuby die for the cause?

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Knowingly.

10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 8:12pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Knowingly. 10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.

Sufficiently

'most people'.. weasely

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 7:07pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 7:02pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter. Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter 10 x people get their advice from the likes of AOC Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'. What would Zuby think? i think zuby would recognise what aquascoot recognises. without the evolutionary blowtorch, people will follow the path of least resistance and all that will matter to them is "pleasuring themselves" governments have infantalised people by removing all pressure. people now view discomfort as a failure of government to keep them comfortable what follows is predictable sugar, fat, sloth , celebration of victimhood, inaction, porn, gambling, family disintegration, whining , sooking, complaining, the cry baby narrative and the life of pure garbage. if you wont put the blowtorch on yourself, no one is going to do it for you. failure is the norm garbage is the default. an individual who has led a garbage life has extreme death anxiety because he has done nothing, produced nothing, risked nothing and been nothing. the superior man is satisfied with his life and happy to melt away he is hunbled by the challenges he has overcome the mediocre man is deeply frustrated by his life and clings to it as if it is the most important thing in the universe. he has overcome no challenges and the greatest challenge (his own mortality) obviously terrifies him. he should have prepared by confronting challenge every hour of every day. he didnt now his life is a trainwreck

Just so. The Superior Man is a germophobe who gets about with a packet of Wet Wipes in his pocket in case he has to shake an inferior hand.

Until there's a pandemic, then he's kissing dead veteran's wives, lying about his test results, refusing to wear a mask and coughing on the help.

3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 8:12pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Knowingly. 10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.

11/  Sounds like something from an Auburn toilet wall, pb.

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 9:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Knowingly. 10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it. 11/  Sounds like something from an Auburn toilet wall, pb.

You drove through, remember? Not getting muddled up with the bogno pubblico at the pwestigious University of Balogney are you?

Read your Lacan. Leave the Zuby quotes to the grown-ups, there's a good chap.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 10:53pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 9:30pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Knowingly. 10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it. 11/  Sounds like something from an Auburn toilet wall, pb. You drove through, remember? Not getting muddled up with the bogno pubblico at the pwestigious University of Balogney are you? Read your Lacan. Leave the Zuby quotes to the grown-ups, there's a good chap. 20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no?

Too paki.

If we could trust the science, when it is always based on opinions, we would all be billionaires living in a disease free paradise with an endless life ahead of us and nothing to do to survive...

When anyone says:- "I rely on my opinion" - you KNOW they are relying on their opinion and not on conclusive fact.  Subjective and objective, ya dig?

Given the views held on everything from CoVID19 management, precautions and vaccinations to climate change and denial by ...


Group 1.

Craig Kelly
Andrew Bolt
Alan Jones
Barnaby Joyce
Christopher Monckton
Tony Abbott
Clive Palmer
Donald Trump
Pauline Hanson
Bitchute
Infowars
Christian Scientists
Robert Kennedy Junior

As opposed to ...


Group 2.

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology
The Australian Medical Association
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
Dr Norman Swan
The Office of Chief Medical Officer
N.A.S.A.
The Australasian Society of Clinical Immunology and Allergy (research and development)
The Commonwealth Serum Laboratories (CSL)






So if it's OK with the Anti-5G Network Lobby,
the Royal Society of Climate Change Deniers,
Vaccinations Kill (Australia),
Reignite Democracy Australia,
United Australia Party
- not forgetting the Common Everyday Loon that haunts these forums ...




... I think I'll stick with Group 2

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 11:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:53pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 9:30pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 8:12pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:52pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed. "Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly..... Knowingly. 10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it. 11/  Sounds like something from an Auburn toilet wall, pb. You drove through, remember? Not getting muddled up with the bogno pubblico at the pwestigious University of Balogney are you? Read your Lacan. Leave the Zuby quotes to the grown-ups, there's a good chap. 20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no? Too paki.

Too, er, you.

Just so, as every schoolboy knows.