Hmmm.

I currently have covid, apart from a blocked nose for half a day I'm asymptomatic. Lucky I didn't break my leg and become a covid statistic.

‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing

However it has been revealed that hundreds of patients counted in the Covid hospitalisation tally in NSW — the worst hit state in the current outbreak — were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.

The state’s Health Minister has revealed that many of those listed as having being “hospitalised” for the virus are simply testing positive in routine checks after being admitted for broken bones, labour pains or even mental health issues.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb

Do you think you'll survive?    :o

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:34am:

Do you think you'll survive?    :o

I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain.
Maybe I should have called an ambulance?

Gordon wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:34am: Do you think you'll survive?    :o I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain. Maybe I should have called an ambulance?

OK - isn't this the 2nd time you've had Covid?

'NSW:Hospitalisations WITH Covid'



I want to know, how many people have been hospitalised WITH Covid ?

And how many people have been hospitalised WITH Covid vaccine injury ?



Because i suspect that those 'two groups' are one-in-the-same.

And i suspect that the medical bureaucracy in Australia is INTENTIONALLY failing to make any distinction between them.  !!


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Quote:

Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Personal Account By Daniel Politi Jan 02, 2022 ...... Twitter didn’t say what exactly got the Republican lawmaker from Georgia suspended but it took place a day after she tweeted a false claim about the “extremely high amounts of COVID vaccine deaths.” The tweet included a chart from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which includes unverified claims that officials have warned should not be taken as factual. Twitter said that the tweet that got Greene suspended amounted to her fifth strike, meaning she will not be able to get her account restored. Accounts that have been suspended can appeal and the suspension can be reversed if what was written is proven to be factual. Greene’s previous strike had come in August when she said vaccines were “failing,” which led to a one-week suspension of her account. And she had received a third strike, and a 12-hour suspension, when she falsely said COVID-19 was only dangerous for people were obese or over 65 years old. “We’ve been clear that, per our strike system for this policy, we will permanently suspend accounts for repeated violations of the policy,” a Twitter spokeswoman said.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/twitter-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greene-covid-misinformation.html

NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations.
Yet according to the Media Scare Machine 1200 Covid hospitalisations are breaking the system.
When will this BS end?

Plus NSW Health now reporting that in some hospitals half of the so-called ‘Covid hospitalisations’ are people in there for other ailments who have also tested positive for Covid.
Plus overall hospitalisation rates in NSW are lower “likely associated with the Covid-19 pandemic”.

Compare the 1200 ‘Covid hospitalisations’ in NSW with annual admissions for other reasons:

44,000 alcohol-attributed
67,000 obesity-related
60,000 smoking
158,000 heart disease

Mark Latham

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:43am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:34am: Do you think you'll survive?    :o I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain. Maybe I should have called an ambulance? OK - isn't this the 2nd time you've had Covid?

I've had one or two mild colds since the outbreak began. I had a couple tests when other family members had a cold, but all were neg.

Who knows, I may have, but I would have been totally asymptomatic.

Gordon wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:43am: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:34am: Do you think you'll survive?    :o I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain. Maybe I should have called an ambulance? OK - isn't this the 2nd time you've had Covid? I've had one or two mild colds since the outbreak began. I had a couple tests when other family members had a cold, but all were neg. Who knows, I may have, but I would have been totally asymptomatic.

Well - you'll have to stay locked up for 14 days.

Looks like you'll spend a lot of time on Ozpol.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:10am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:55am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:43am: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:34am: Do you think you'll survive?    :o I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain. Maybe I should have called an ambulance? OK - isn't this the 2nd time you've had Covid? I've had one or two mild colds since the outbreak began. I had a couple tests when other family members had a cold, but all were neg. Who knows, I may have, but I would have been totally asymptomatic. Well - you'll have to stay locked up for 14 days. Looks like you'll spend a lot of time on Ozpol.

7. Tomorrow when I'm sure I won't get sick I'm going to paint a few of the bedrooms.

It means people who have had COVID-19 but do not have symptoms will no longer have to return a negative test before they end their seven-day isolation period.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-31/close-contact-rules-change-covid-19-national-cabinet/100733138

Frank wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:50am:

NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations. Yet according to the Media Scare Machine 1200 Covid hospitalisations are breaking the system. When will this BS end? Plus NSW Health now reporting that in some hospitals half of the so-called ‘Covid hospitalisations’ are people in there for other ailments who have also tested positive for Covid. Plus overall hospitalisation rates in NSW are lower “likely associated with the Covid-19 pandemic”. Compare the 1200 ‘Covid hospitalisations’ in NSW with annual admissions for other reasons: 44,000 alcohol-attributed 67,000 obesity-related 60,000 smoking 158,000 heart disease Mark Latham

The current hospitalizaton rate is about 2 weeks lagging behind the case numbers.   The number of COVID admissions had doubled over the past week. 

And Mark Latham is a politician with an uterior motive, he has lack of knowledge of Australian Health Care system, and medicine as whole.

How do you know even if the COVID infection is picked up on admission, its not related.  For example, an elderly lady can have a heart attack, but the reason for the heart attack is because she is sick with COVID.   Or perhaps another woman return to the hospital with fever, the staff thought it was post surgical wound infection, however, she has COVID as well.   Remember your usual fit young man with a broken finger usually do not get admitted to hospital. 

Hospital is where all the sick and frail people goes.  This is a fact.   If suddenly, you have suffered a major heart attack or stroke, do you really want to be treated in a hospital ward full of COVID?  What will be your chance of survival if you get covid AND the original conditon that landed you in Hospital?   So, there had to be two areas being fenced off from each other: COVID and non COVID, this means double the amount of staff required.   Which then creates a nightmare at triage. 

Even in normal circumstances, sometimes, an elective surgery do not happen because an ICU bed had to be taken up by someone just got injured from a car accident.  This is the state of our health care system right now.  So lets be realistic.   1000 hospital admission, at a ratio of 5 to 1 (should be 4 to 1), means you need 200 nurses x3 shift = 600 extra nurses PER DAY.   Now, where do these nurses come from?  They just dont conjure  out of thin air. 

Be real, and stop listening to ONE nation.  They have no idea.  The nation will be doomed if any of those lousy lot get to manage the country.

Gordon wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:27am:

‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing

and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have.

Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared.

this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 3:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:27am: ‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have. Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared. this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems

put all the covid patients in one room and get a nurse who has already had it (which will soon be every health worker) to look after them. problem solved

and lets not forget how fortunate we are .

maybe we can get some perspective
Today, victoria had 8,000 cases  and only 3 deaths. in 2020  700 people caught the virus and that same day, 25 died.

omnicron is our best friend

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 12:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations. Yet according to the Media Scare Machine 1200 Covid hospitalisations are breaking the system. When will this BS end? Plus NSW Health now reporting that in some hospitals half of the so-called ‘Covid hospitalisations’ are people in there for other ailments who have also tested positive for Covid. Plus overall hospitalisation rates in NSW are lower “likely associated with the Covid-19 pandemic”. Compare the 1200 ‘Covid hospitalisations’ in NSW with annual admissions for other reasons: 44,000 alcohol-attributed 67,000 obesity-related 60,000 smoking 158,000 heart disease Mark Latham The current hospitalizaton rate is about 2 weeks lagging behind the case numbers.   The number of COVID admissions had doubled over the past week.  And Mark Latham is a politician with an uterior motive, he has lack of knowledge of Australian Health Care system, and medicine as whole. How do you know even if the COVID infection is picked up on admission, its not related.  For example, an elderly lady can have a heart attack, but the reason for the heart attack is because she is sick with COVID.   Or perhaps another woman return to the hospital with fever, the staff thought it was post surgical wound infection, however, she has COVID as well.   Remember your usual fit young man with a broken finger usually do not get admitted to hospital.  Hospital is where all the sick and frail people goes.  This is a fact.   If suddenly, you have suffered a major heart attack or stroke, do you really want to be treated in a hospital ward full of COVID?  What will be your chance of survival if you get covid AND the original conditon that landed you in Hospital?   So, there had to be two areas being fenced off from each other: COVID and non COVID, this means double the amount of staff required.   Which then creates a nightmare at triage.  Even in normal circumstances, sometimes, an elective surgery do not happen because an ICU bed had to be taken up by someone just got injured from a car accident.  This is the state of our health care system right now.  So lets be realistic.   1000 hospital admission, at a ratio of 5 to 1 (should be 4 to 1), means you need 200 nurses x3 shift = 600 extra nurses PER DAY.   Now, where do these nurses come from?  They just dont conjure  out of thin air.  Be real, and stop listening to ONE nation.  They have no idea.  The nation will be doom if any of those lousy lot get to manage the country.

NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations.

1000 admissions is 0.035 % of 2.9 million.  The question of proportion is: how does 0.035 % overwhelm a system? 
There has to be some 'help'from daft rules and directives like 'close contact' staff sent home for two weeks even if they tested negative or some such. Because otherwise I do not see how 0.035% of cases can crack a system.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:09pm:

omnicron is our best friend

You should add CNN to your list of impressive email contacts and shoot off a quick email to them and let them know.

Omicron surge is 'unlike anything we've ever seen,' expert says

By Aya Elamroussi, CNN

Updated 0828 GMT (1628 HKT) December 31, 2021


Quote:

An unprecedented spike in Covid-19 cases fueled by the fast-moving Omicron variant is crushing hospitals across the United States, with doctors describing packed emergency rooms as health experts implore New Year's Eve revelers to keep parties small and outdoors to help avert an even worse surge.

Quote:

"It's unlike anything we've ever seen, even at the peak of the prior surges of Covid," Dr. James Phillips, who works in Washington, DC, said Wednesday, when the nation hit a new pandemic high of 300,886 average new daily cases over the prior week, according to Johns Hopkins University data. "What we're experiencing right now is an absolute overwhelming of the emergency departments" in Washington, Phillips, chief of disaster medicine at George Washington University Hospital, told CNN's Jim Acosta.

Oh, and make sure you spell it correctly in your email - its Omicron.
Otherwise, they might not take you seriously.  ::)

Carl D wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:09pm: omnicron is our best friend You should add CNN to your list of impressive email contacts and shoot off a quick email to them and let them know. Omicron surge is 'unlike anything we've ever seen,' expert says By Aya Elamroussi, CNN Updated 0828 GMT (1628 HKT) December 31, 2021 Quote: An unprecedented spike in Covid-19 cases fueled by the fast-moving Omicron variant is crushing hospitals across the United States, with doctors describing packed emergency rooms as health experts implore New Year's Eve revelers to keep parties small and outdoors to help avert an even worse surge. [quote]"It's unlike anything we've ever seen, even at the peak of the prior surges of Covid," Dr. James Phillips, who works in Washington, DC, said Wednesday, when the nation hit a new pandemic high of 300,886 average new daily cases over the prior week, according to Johns Hopkins University data. "What we're experiencing right now is an absolute overwhelming of the emergency departments" in Washington, Phillips, chief of disaster medicine at George Washington University Hospital, told CNN's Jim Acosta.

Oh, and make sure you spell it correctly in your email - its Omicron.
Otherwise, they might not take you seriously.  ::)

[/quote]


CNN  ;D ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 3:56pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:27am: ‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have. Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared. this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems put all the covid patients in one room and get a nurse who has already had it (which will soon be every health worker) to look after them. problem solved and lets not forget how fortunate we are . maybe we can get some perspective Today, victoria had 8,000 cases  and only 3 deaths. in 2020  700 people caught the virus and that same day, 25 died. omnicron is our best friend

They currently think that Omicron does not give much immunity benefit.

And, by the way, aqua... its still winter in the United States.

Let's see what happens here in Australia when our winter arrives in a few months time and we have to deal with Covid and the flu at the same time.

Now that borders are reopening and international travel is resuming our 'old friend' the flu will be back with us again this year no doubt.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:09pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 3:56pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:27am: ‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have. Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared. this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems put all the covid patients in one room and get a nurse who has already had it (which will soon be every health worker) to look after them. problem solved and lets not forget how fortunate we are . maybe we can get some perspective Today, victoria had 8,000 cases  and only 3 deaths. in 2020  700 people caught the virus and that same day, 25 died. omnicron is our best friend They currently think that Omicron does not give much immunity benefit.

incorrect.

you are listening to mainstream media drug company sponsored lies.

please watch the excellent video which shows the scientific studies showing the exact opposite.

catching omicron gives much better long term immunity .

israel is onto its 4th pfizer jab and has surging omicron.

sorry the vaccines arent as good as natural infection.

and if you want to dispute that please define who "they" are  ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:24pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:09pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 3:56pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:27am: ‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have. Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared. this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems put all the covid patients in one room and get a nurse who has already had it (which will soon be every health worker) to look after them. problem solved and lets not forget how fortunate we are . maybe we can get some perspective Today, victoria had 8,000 cases  and only 3 deaths. in 2020  700 people caught the virus and that same day, 25 died. omnicron is our best friend They currently think that Omicron does not give much immunity benefit. incorrect. you are listening to mainstream media drug company sponsored lies. please watch the excellent video which shows the scientific studies showing the exact opposite. catching omicron gives much better long term immunity . israel is onto its 4th pfizer jab and has surging omicron. sorry the vaccines arent as good as natural infection. and if you want to dispute that please define who "they" are  ::) ::)

Sure.

Get your medical advice from a teacher on YouTube    ::)

I'll get mine from medical doctors qualified in the field.

Strange how you always mock Dr. Jill Biden for using the title Dr., yet you have no problem accepting it from this guy.

Frank wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:16pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 12:02pm: Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations. Yet according to the Media Scare Machine 1200 Covid hospitalisations are breaking the system. When will this BS end? Plus NSW Health now reporting that in some hospitals half of the so-called ‘Covid hospitalisations’ are people in there for other ailments who have also tested positive for Covid. Plus overall hospitalisation rates in NSW are lower “likely associated with the Covid-19 pandemic”. Compare the 1200 ‘Covid hospitalisations’ in NSW with annual admissions for other reasons: 44,000 alcohol-attributed 67,000 obesity-related 60,000 smoking 158,000 heart disease Mark Latham The current hospitalizaton rate is about 2 weeks lagging behind the case numbers.   The number of COVID admissions had doubled over the past week.  And Mark Latham is a politician with an uterior motive, he has lack of knowledge of Australian Health Care system, and medicine as whole. How do you know even if the COVID infection is picked up on admission, its not related.  For example, an elderly lady can have a heart attack, but the reason for the heart attack is because she is sick with COVID.   Or perhaps another woman return to the hospital with fever, the staff thought it was post surgical wound infection, however, she has COVID as well.   Remember your usual fit young man with a broken finger usually do not get admitted to hospital.  Hospital is where all the sick and frail people goes.  This is a fact.   If suddenly, you have suffered a major heart attack or stroke, do you really want to be treated in a hospital ward full of COVID?  What will be your chance of survival if you get covid AND the original conditon that landed you in Hospital?   So, there had to be two areas being fenced off from each other: COVID and non COVID, this means double the amount of staff required.   Which then creates a nightmare at triage.  Even in normal circumstances, sometimes, an elective surgery do not happen because an ICU bed had to be taken up by someone just got injured from a car accident.  This is the state of our health care system right now.  So lets be realistic.   1000 hospital admission, at a ratio of 5 to 1 (should be 4 to 1), means you need 200 nurses x3 shift = 600 extra nurses PER DAY.   Now, where do these nurses come from?  They just dont conjure  out of thin air.  Be real, and stop listening to ONE nation.  They have no idea.  The nation will be doom if any of those lousy lot get to manage the country. NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations. 1000 admissions is 0.035 % of 2.9 million.  The question of proportion is: how does 0.035 % overwhelm a system?  There has to be some 'help'from daft rules and directives like 'close contact' staff sent home for two weeks even if they tested negative or some such. Because otherwise I do not see how 0.035% of cases can crack a system.

What you fail to realize that Australia is an ageing population, and we are chronically underfunding the hospital system - especially the public hospital system.  Even without COVID, our public hospital system were at breaking point, with lack of staff, and overworked staff.   Having a COVID pandemic does not mean all other medical conditions cease to exist.   Extra staff needed in the new wards, the vaccination clinics, and contact tracing.   Elective surgeries had to be cancelled to accommodate the extra influx of patients, but these still need to be done later on, putting strains well into the future. 

And dont forget, we still dont know anything about Long COVID syndrome and its future impact. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:33pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:24pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:09pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 3:56pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:27am: ‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have. Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared. this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems put all the covid patients in one room and get a nurse who has already had it (which will soon be every health worker) to look after them. problem solved and lets not forget how fortunate we are . maybe we can get some perspective Today, victoria had 8,000 cases  and only 3 deaths. in 2020  700 people caught the virus and that same day, 25 died. omnicron is our best friend They currently think that Omicron does not give much immunity benefit. incorrect. you are listening to mainstream media drug company sponsored lies. please watch the excellent video which shows the scientific studies showing the exact opposite. catching omicron gives much better long term immunity . israel is onto its 4th pfizer jab and has surging omicron. sorry the vaccines arent as good as natural infection. and if you want to dispute that please define who "they" are  ::) ::) Sure. Get your medical advice from a teacher on YouTube    ::) I'll get mine from medical doctors qualified in the field. Strange how you always mock Dr. Jill Biden for using the title Dr., yet you have no problem accepting it from this guy.

Did you want to comment on that, aqua?

You always mock Dr. Biden for using that title, yet you don't have any problem with Dr. Campbell using it.

They both have a PhD in education.  Neither are medical doctors.

So, why are you perfectly okay with Campbell using the title, but not okay with Biden using it?

Is it purely because he agrees with you - are you really that petty?

Would you want asymptomatic medical staff doing an operation for you?  Or one who was close contact (not using the new definition) with the last patient with broken leg who has covid, but not pcr tested (because you are gambling that rapid antigen is good enough at whatever %)?

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 3:56pm:

this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems

No problems with hospitals in NSW despite hundred of medical staff quitting over vaccine mandates.


Quote:

Hundreds of health workers at risk of job loss over COVID-19 jabs Up to 2000 health workers risk losing their jobs for not being vaccinated against COVID-19 with paramedics, nurses and doctors who have been stood down expected to explain why they have not got a shot. NSW Health Services Union secretary Gerard Hayes said the state was “very close to making the call” about terminating the employment of health workers refusing to get a COVID-19 jab without an adequate reason. NSW Health said 215 health workers had so far quit since late last month over their position on vaccination. The news of further job losses come as a paramedic lost his Supreme Court challenge against mandatory vaccination on religious grounds on Wednesday The court rejected his application and upheld the public health orders saying it would be of no comfort to a patient infected by an unvaccinated healthcare worker to be told they were “unlucky by being in the wrong ward at the wrong time because most healthcare workers had been vaccinated”. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-health-workers-at-risk-of-job-loss-over-covid-19-jabs-20211111-p5983v.html

We have known for for about 6 months vaccine doesn't prevent transmission so it's absurd to fire unvaxxed health care workers on a myth they're a danger to patients when asymptomatic vaxxed health care workers are told to go back to work despite the fact they can infect people. The dopey dim wits think only vaccinated people should be allowed to spread this virus.

The labor run states have had 2 years to get their sh!t together with hospitals what have they been doing?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 3:56pm: this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems No problems with hospitals in NSW despite hundred of medical staff quitting over vaccine mandates. Quote: Hundreds of health workers at risk of job loss over COVID-19 jabs Up to 2000 health workers risk losing their jobs for not being vaccinated against COVID-19 with paramedics, nurses and doctors who have been stood down expected to explain why they have not got a shot. NSW Health Services Union secretary Gerard Hayes said the state was “very close to making the call” about terminating the employment of health workers refusing to get a COVID-19 jab without an adequate reason. NSW Health said 215 health workers had so far quit since late last month over their position on vaccination. The news of further job losses come as a paramedic lost his Supreme Court challenge against mandatory vaccination on religious grounds on Wednesday The court rejected his application and upheld the public health orders saying it would be of no comfort to a patient infected by an unvaccinated healthcare worker to be told they were “unlucky by being in the wrong ward at the wrong time because most healthcare workers had been vaccinated”. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-health-workers-at-risk-of-job-loss-over-covid-19-jabs-20211111-p5983v.html We have known for for about 6 months vaccine doesn't prevent transmission so it's absurd to fire unvaxxed health care workers on a myth they're a danger to patients when asymptomatic vaxxed health care workers are told to go back to work despite the fact they can infect people. The dopey dim wits think only vaccinated people should be allowed to spread this virus. The labor run states have had 2 years to get their sh!t together with hospitals what have they been doing?

Baron

You are trying to apply logic and thinking for yourself

You have a duty to submit to the cultural hypnosis

Stare at the swaying stopwatch like all of the other un thinking masses

Get up a good rhythm

Covid-19 covid covid covid-19 covid
Get the vaccine get the vaccine get the vaccine get the vaccine
Keep you safe keep you safe keep you safe keep you safe


Now if you drink a lot of Coca-Cola
Coke ads life Coke ads life Coke ads life Coke ads life
And eat a lot of Maccas
Happy meal happy meal happy meal happy meal

You will be in the appropriate durr state

You will bounce out of bed
Eat your garbage food
Absorb the garbage messaging
And you will live in the appropriate mental fog
Where you just follow the path of least resistance
And comply with your puppet Masters

This is the root of the inferior man
This is the life of pure garbage
It is also the default state
90% of the population will live permanently in this weird void

90% of people don't want to think for themselves

They just want to be told what to do
They want their McDonald's
They want their Coca-Cola
They want their Netflix
They want their sofa
They want their pornography
They never want to challenge themselves

And they just want to be led.

And then when something goes wrong and they get sick
They want to be treated like the infant that they are


It's a train wreck of an existence
And congratulations for being one of those rare men who see something better for themselves

stunspore wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 5:55pm:

Would you want asymptomatic medical staff doing an operation for you?  Or one who was close contact (not using the new definition) with the last patient with broken leg who has covid, but not pcr tested (because you are gambling that rapid antigen is good enough at whatever %)?

They've suspended most operations for that very reason.

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 4:51pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 4:16pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 12:02pm: Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations. Yet according to the Media Scare Machine 1200 Covid hospitalisations are breaking the system. When will this BS end? Plus NSW Health now reporting that in some hospitals half of the so-called ‘Covid hospitalisations’ are people in there for other ailments who have also tested positive for Covid. Plus overall hospitalisation rates in NSW are lower “likely associated with the Covid-19 pandemic”. Compare the 1200 ‘Covid hospitalisations’ in NSW with annual admissions for other reasons: 44,000 alcohol-attributed 67,000 obesity-related 60,000 smoking 158,000 heart disease Mark Latham The current hospitalizaton rate is about 2 weeks lagging behind the case numbers.   The number of COVID admissions had doubled over the past week.  And Mark Latham is a politician with an uterior motive, he has lack of knowledge of Australian Health Care system, and medicine as whole. How do you know even if the COVID infection is picked up on admission, its not related.  For example, an elderly lady can have a heart attack, but the reason for the heart attack is because she is sick with COVID.   Or perhaps another woman return to the hospital with fever, the staff thought it was post surgical wound infection, however, she has COVID as well.   Remember your usual fit young man with a broken finger usually do not get admitted to hospital.  Hospital is where all the sick and frail people goes.  This is a fact.   If suddenly, you have suffered a major heart attack or stroke, do you really want to be treated in a hospital ward full of COVID?  What will be your chance of survival if you get covid AND the original conditon that landed you in Hospital?   So, there had to be two areas being fenced off from each other: COVID and non COVID, this means double the amount of staff required.   Which then creates a nightmare at triage.  Even in normal circumstances, sometimes, an elective surgery do not happen because an ICU bed had to be taken up by someone just got injured from a car accident.  This is the state of our health care system right now.  So lets be realistic.   1000 hospital admission, at a ratio of 5 to 1 (should be 4 to 1), means you need 200 nurses x3 shift = 600 extra nurses PER DAY.   Now, where do these nurses come from?  They just dont conjure  out of thin air.  Be real, and stop listening to ONE nation.  They have no idea.  The nation will be doom if any of those lousy lot get to manage the country. NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations. 1000 admissions is 0.035 % of 2.9 million.  The question of proportion is: how does 0.035 % overwhelm a system?  There has to be some 'help'from daft rules and directives like 'close contact' staff sent home for two weeks even if they tested negative or some such. Because otherwise I do not see how 0.035% of cases can crack a system. What you fail to realize that Australia is an ageing population, and we are chronically underfunding the hospital system - especially the public hospital system.  Even without COVID, our public hospital system were at breaking point, with lack of staff, and overworked staff.   Having a COVID pandemic does not mean all other medical conditions cease to exist.   Extra staff needed in the new wards, the vaccination clinics, and contact tracing.   Elective surgeries had to be cancelled to accommodate the extra influx of patients, but these still need to be done later on, putting strains well into the future.  And dont forget, we still dont know anything about Long COVID syndrome and its future impact.

^^^ That comment by Tickle is a very fair summation of the public health system under Baby Boomer AND Covid19 pressure.

Frank .... recall that last bit of straw that broke the camel's back? Before Covid19 came to town every single state funded health system was under-resourced. Why? The Baby Boomer Phenomenon is one reason. Our parents only had a few kids compared to their parents. Mum had 9 brothers and sisters whilst Dad had 8. What sorts of numbers are these? Absolutely ridiculous! Yet....this huge cohort is now such a burden on our health and welfare system. And it's through no fault of their own. They had no say in being born and they had no say in how many brothers or sisters they had.

So the point I guess I'm making is that our health system was behind the 8 ball to start with. Covid19 ( which hits the elderly more than others ) has exacerbated that situation.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:10am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:55am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:43am: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:34am: Do you think you'll survive?    :o I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain. Maybe I should have called an ambulance? OK - isn't this the 2nd time you've had Covid? I've had one or two mild colds since the outbreak began. I had a couple tests when other family members had a cold, but all were neg. Who knows, I may have, but I would have been totally asymptomatic. Well - you'll have to stay locked up for 14 days. Looks like you'll spend a lot of time on Ozpol.

Post of the freaking month 😂

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 9:10am: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:55am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:43am: Gordon wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:34am: Do you think you'll survive?    :o I took two aspro clear yesterday because I felt a bit of sinus pain. Maybe I should have called an ambulance? OK - isn't this the 2nd time you've had Covid? I've had one or two mild colds since the outbreak began. I had a couple tests when other family members had a cold, but all were neg. Who knows, I may have, but I would have been totally asymptomatic. Well - you'll have to stay locked up for 14 days. Looks like you'll spend a lot of time on Ozpol. Post of the freaking month 😂

But factually wrong. NSW is 7 days :)

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Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 3:56pm: this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems No problems with hospitals in NSW despite hundred of medical staff quitting over vaccine mandates. Quote: Hundreds of health workers at risk of job loss over COVID-19 jabs Up to 2000 health workers risk losing their jobs for not being vaccinated against COVID-19 with paramedics, nurses and doctors who have been stood down expected to explain why they have not got a shot. NSW Health Services Union secretary Gerard Hayes said the state was “very close to making the call” about terminating the employment of health workers refusing to get a COVID-19 jab without an adequate reason. NSW Health said 215 health workers had so far quit since late last month over their position on vaccination. The news of further job losses come as a paramedic lost his Supreme Court challenge against mandatory vaccination on religious grounds on Wednesday The court rejected his application and upheld the public health orders saying it would be of no comfort to a patient infected by an unvaccinated healthcare worker to be told they were “unlucky by being in the wrong ward at the wrong time because most healthcare workers had been vaccinated”. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-health-workers-at-risk-of-job-loss-over-covid-19-jabs-20211111-p5983v.html We have known for for about 6 months vaccine doesn't prevent transmission so it's absurd to fire unvaxxed health care workers on a myth they're a danger to patients when asymptomatic vaxxed health care workers are told to go back to work despite the fact they can infect people. The dopey dim wits think only vaccinated people should be allowed to spread this virus. The labor run states have had 2 years to get their sh!t together with hospitals what have they been doing?

This is a nsw news issue, of which is currently coalition led.  What has labor run states got to with it?