Electric vehicles tipped to drop in price   :)
Riverine Herald.
Jan 18, 2022


Australia’s cheapest electric vehicle is predicted to arrive on our shores some time this year.   :)

The Ora, from China, has been developed by GWM (Great Wall Motors) and is being hailed as the budget EV that could set a competitive edge in the electric vehicle market.



According to EV Central, Australian GWM management has suggested that a $40,000 starting price could be achievable for the Ora.

Currently, the cheapest EV on the Australian market is the MG ZS EV, which goes for $44,990 drive away.

MG Australia chief executive officer Peter Ciao recently confirmed that the new 2022 model would arrive sometime before May.

The hope for consumers is that this will help to push down the price of previous models.

According to the Electric Vehicle Council’s annual report there are currently 31 electric vehicles on the market in Australia but that number is expected to rise to 58 models near the end of 2022.

The report reveals that the electric car market in Australia has already been growing. In the 2020 report, 6900 were sold, while in 2021 there were 8688 electric vehicles sold.

EV sales currently make up 0.78 per cent of all vehicle sales in Australia in comparison to 10.7 in the United Kingdom and 74 per cent in Norway.

Brooke Prust purchased a Hyundai Ioniq in December 2021 when she was concerned about the environmental impact and health impacts of owning a petrol-powered vehicle.

“Once you go EV, you’ll never go back. I have no regrets.”

Ms Prust said she recharged her car once about every eight or nine days.

“It costs me $6.50 to fully charge the car at home and that gets me 300km.”

Ms Prust said she believed the reason behind many people’s reluctance to buy an electric vehicle was their expensive price tag and concerns around the range they could achieve — but she said both of these factors were “improving rapidly”.

Other concerns that commonly appear online include whether there are enough charging stations for EVs around Victoria.

“There are heaps of them now,” Ms Prust said.

“Many people think that you need to install a special charger for an extra cost, and while you can do that it’s also possible just to charge from a regular 10 amp household power point. It’s slower this way but you just plug in overnight like you do with your phone. If you need to charge faster for any reason there’s the public charger available.”

In 2021, the Victorian Government funded $664,000 towards the installation of electric chargers including in regional Victorian towns such as Echuca, Ouyen, Swan Hill, Kerang and Maryborough.

Echuca’s very own EV charging station was installed by Evie Networks at 438 High St in June 2021.

Evie Networks chief executive officer Chris Mills said Evie Networks had seen strong utilisation of the Echuca electric vehicle fast charging station.

“In its first six months there have been 158 sessions and 73 unique drivers, with December being the busiest period.

“No matter where you live, everyone should be confident enough to buy an EV because they have access to reliable fast charging — not just city dwellers.

“We continue to work with regional areas, like Echuca, to ensure they can meet the coming demand.”

Campaspe Shire Mayor Chrissy Weller said, “as we expect more and more EVs to hit the road in the coming years, we want to make sure Campaspe Shire is not left behind.”

Victorian Energy, Environment and Climate Change Minister Lily D’Ambrosio said more Victorians would be driving electric vehicles in the future.

“That’s why we’re building the infrastructure, to meet this demand,” she said.

The Electric Vehicle Council’s annual report states that car manufacturers around the world have made public commitments to increase the production of EVs.

Kia has committed to EVs accounting for 40 per cent of vehicle production in 2030, Hyundai has a target of having 23 EV models for sale by 2025, while Mazda has announced it aims to be 100 per cent electric by 2030.

The Victorian Government has a target that 50 per cent of all new car sales be zero-emission vehicles by 2030.

Totally agree.

These comments have the ring of truth to them.
From a 'normal' customer.


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.......... Brooke Prust purchased a Hyundai Ioniq in December 2021 when she was concerned about the environmental impact and health impacts of owning a petrol-powered vehicle. “Once you go EV, you’ll never go back. I have no regrets.” Ms Prust said she recharged her car once about every eight or nine days. “It costs me $6.50 to fully charge the car at home and that gets me 300km.” Ms Prust said she believed the reason behind many people’s reluctance to buy an electric vehicle was their expensive price tag and concerns around the range they could achieve — but she said both of these factors were “improving rapidly”. Other concerns that commonly appear online include whether there are enough charging stations for EVs around Victoria. “There are heaps of them now,” Ms Prust said. “Many people think that you need to install a special charger for an extra cost, and while you can do that it’s also possible just to charge from a regular 10 amp household power point. It’s slower this way but you just plug in overnight like you do with your phone. If you need to charge faster for any reason there’s the public charger available.”         ..........

I think there is a Korean Ioniq for about $48k. If you buy an MG or GWM, you are supporting the Chinese Communist Party and the possible invasion of Taiwan. Of course we do that in every day in one way or another, but at some point you have to make a decision on just how far you are prepared to support China.

Speaking of electric vehicles ... how about battery powered long-haul trains?

I note that Twiggy Forrest is at it again ...

He has just purchased Williams in the UK (yes - that Williams - F1 racing and other high tech stuff)

He is going to have all those big trains of his lugging iron ore powered by battery.

Cool.

I like the guy.   8-)

Wow what an out there call.

Will the sun also rise tomorrow?

When they reach a price for what tgey are worth, il buy one.

I can afford $200.00.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 12:15pm:

Speaking of electric vehicles ... how about battery powered long-haul trains? I note that Twiggy Forrest is at it again ... He has just purchased Williams in the UK (yes - that Williams - F1 racing and other high tech stuff) He is going to have all those big trains of his lugging iron ore powered by battery. Cool. I like the guy.   8-)

Yes and electric Prime movers are available !!
One company will replace your old worn out diesel motor in those to an electric version.

A replacement diesel motor for one of those is VERY expensive and you STILL have high running/maintenance costs.

An e prime mover weighs about 8 tonne and drags about 18 tonne. Not good enough for road trains.

There is a very specific type of bloke who likes Teslas.

Not quite normal

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Valkie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 12:56pm:

When they reach a price for what tgey are worth, il buy one. I can afford $200.00.

you should stop sponging off centrelink and get a job, you might be able to afford more that way.

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Another issue with EVs is the problem with a car in an accident.

I was looking at the emergency procedures for the Kia EV6 ...

https://kiatechinfo.snapon.com/Forms/2022%20-%20(CV)%20EV6_ERG_ISO%20Format_final.pdf

The procedures for first responders and second responders are very important. They could be electrocuted by the high voltage power unless they disable the system correctly.

They need full PPE clothing and need to pull the safety breaker on the high voltage after disabling the "normal" battery.

The high voltage batteries can experience runaway heating and re-ignite several times after being extinguished the first time.

Then, it takes days to discharge the damaged batteries  via a water bath. Not to mention the caustic electrolyte fluid inside these things which can cause skin damage if contact is made with it.

Maybe society will look back on EVs after a few years and ponder why on earth we went down this track.  :-/

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 6:23pm:

Valkie wrote on Jan 24th, 2022 at 12:56pm: When they reach a price for what tgey are worth, il buy one. I can afford $200.00. you should stop sponging off centrelink and get a job, you might be able to afford more that way.

Have you ever had a job, at all?

Or are you simply a fake abbo dole bludger?

Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 9:51pm:

They need full PPE clothing and need to pull the safety breaker on the high voltage after disabling the "normal" battery.

They need BA equipment not just PPE.

Take note of wind direction. Stand at least 60 metres up wind or 600 metres no wind and let the bastard burn.

Valkie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 6:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24th, 2022 at 6:23pm: Valkie wrote on Jan 24th, 2022 at 12:56pm: When they reach a price for what tgey are worth, il buy one. I can afford $200.00. you should stop sponging off centrelink and get a job, you might be able to afford more that way. Have you ever had a job, at all? Or are you simply a fake abbo dole bludger?

stop sponging off centrelink and get a job

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 6:23pm:

Valkie wrote on Jan 24th, 2022 at 12:56pm: When they reach a price for what tgey are worth, il buy one. I can afford $200.00. you should stop sponging off centrelink and get a job, you might be able to afford more that way.

John,
why are you posting in Environment when you're banned?


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1612043899

sorry ... didn't realise it was enviro.

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 5:39pm:

sorry ... didn't realise it was enviro.

Even though you've done it twice before I won't dob you in
as you apologised.

https://i.imgur.com/cxyIEug.jpg

I have two neighbours with EVs. Neither bothers with fast chargers as they only drive around town. As a huge percentage of vehicles never leave the urban area, range anxiety might be over stated.