DO NOT FIRE HER

Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think.

Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough


https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f

Of course her comments are life altering.

No apology will ever sate the vicious appetite of the politically correct virtue signallers.

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

"Insiders claim". Just lol.

Gordy, once again falling over himself to swing his relentless bat brings us only the best of possible sources.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was.

So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of...

Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

Valkie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 10:06am:

Of course her comments are life altering. No apology will ever sate the vicious appetite of the politically correct virtue signallers.

You've swung Valkiw though, Gordy. You've got to be happy with that.

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

That was my point.

The terms: race and racism come with significant subjective baggage and sometimes that baggage is so great, it warps the terms to the point that the subjective definition must be subsumed into them without any further debate.

Islamic / Muslim also warp the terms.

Of course don't cancel her; she wasn't trying to trivialise or deny the significance of the Holocaust.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event.

I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:35am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. That was my point. The terms race and racism come with significant subjective baggage and sometimes that baggage is so great, it warps the terms to the point that the subjective definition must be subsumed into them. Islamic / Muslim also warp the terms. Of course don't cancel her; she wasn't trying to trivialise or deny the significance of the Holocaust.

I don't think she was trivialising it, and I don't believe she's antisemitic above the level that left are turning towards antisemitism, but she is a total idiot, and it looks like the left are after her scalp.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. I think this sums it up perfectly. It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event. I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'.

Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race?

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am:

Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

Says the Joe Rogan fan boi.

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:40am:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:38am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. I think this sums it up perfectly. It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event. I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'. Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race?

No.

Are overweight people?

Valkie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 10:06am:

Of course her comments are life altering. No apology will ever sate the vicious appetite of the politically correct virtue signallers.

Er, Gordon's trying to virtue signal.you, Valkie.

Good on you for taking him up on that. Most virtuous of you.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:41am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:40am: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:38am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. I think this sums it up perfectly. It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event. I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'. Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race? No. Are overweight people?

I don't give a schit about overweight people, just as long as their fat bodies don't spill across from their seat to mine.  I certainly don't mind sharing an airport with them, like you do with bogans going to Bali.

**drops into his best Bogie voice** - Honey - that wasn't the kind of bat he was considering swinging....

Doesn't matter if Islam is a race - too many bad apples in it..... same as Abos with their massive over-representation in violence of all kinds.

Those are the fig-yures, Major Kong...

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:15pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:41am: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:40am: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:38am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. I think this sums it up perfectly. It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event. I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'. Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race? No. Are overweight people? I don't give a schit about overweight people, just as long as their fat bodies don't spill across from their seat to mine.  I certainly don't mind sharing an airport with them, like you do with bogans going to Bali.

Sure. That's why you brag on internet forums about taunting them on the beach in front of you children.

And obsessively posting about them.

No. You don't care at all.

The Great Gutsby ... A Fridge Too Far ..... All Fat On The Western Front ... Midnight In The Garden Of Food and Evil..... 

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 9:27am:

DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f

Oh boy! That was a difficult read. 😩

1. She's a BLACK WOMAN. Note the upper case words?

2. In her "apology" she stated : "that the mass genocide — which is estimated to have killed six million Jews and five million others — was more to do with "man's inhumanity to man" rather than racism."

3. Ummm excuse me but I'm pretty sure women/girls were murdered too.

4. Oh and whilst trying to excuse her terrible comments ...she stated quite emphatically that in her mind ...black ethnicity IS all about skin colour.

5. Has someone yet to point out to her that her last name is Jewish? And that her livelihood relies on a global multinational dominated industry owned and controlled by Jewish people? 😳

6. Anyway read the article for yourself. It's all there in BLACK and white 😐

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 9:27am:

DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f

It was religion

Spot

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:35am: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. That was my point. The terms race and racism come with significant subjective baggage and sometimes that baggage is so great, it warps the terms to the point that the subjective definition must be subsumed into them. Islamic / Muslim also warp the terms. Of course don't cancel her; she wasn't trying to trivialise or deny the significance of the Holocaust. I don't think she was trivialising it, and I don't believe she's antisemitic above the level that left are turning towards antisemitism

Again, that was my point.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:35am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. That was my point. The terms: race and racism come with significant subjective baggage and sometimes that baggage is so great, it warps the terms to the point that the subjective definition must be subsumed into them without any further debate. Islamic / Muslim also warp the terms. Of course don't cancel her; she wasn't trying to trivialise or deny the significance of the Holocaust.

That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist... each different - but that red flag waved to the bull - well... the moment you mention ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM .. you are deemed a racist...

ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM  ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM, ISLAM

... and the Ozpol Oscar for 2022 looks like heading towards The Grappler for Best Trigger Term Usage....

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:31pm:

5. Has someone yet to point out to her that her last name is Jewish?

Whoopi Goldberg always believed she had Jewish ancestry as did her mother. She changed her surname from Johnson to Goldberg to honour that, although through DNA analysis she came to realise she is highly unlikely to have Jewish ancestry.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:47pm:

That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist

As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism.

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

Jewish people ARE a race!

And they are a religion too!

1. Jewish ethnicity

2. Jewish religion

The difference?

Anyone can change their religion.

No one can change their ethnicity. It's like your birthday date and time - irreversible and intact!

Our family doctor and family lawyer and family accountant? ALL JEWISH! Ethnically Jewish AND Jewish wrt their religion.

A lot of non Mediterranean people don't get that ethnicity and religion are 2 interwoven strands of identity which impacts Mediterranean people's sense of self.

Hence why 99% of ethnically Greek people are Greek Orthodox.

Hence why 99% of Serbians are Serbian Orthodox.

Hence why Romanians are 99% Romanian Orthodox etc etc.

One last comment : Why can't we just accept each other as members of the HUMAN race?

Here's how I think of it : A black skinned baby is as precious as a white skinned baby. Both deserve respect and regard and to be safe. Why?  It's all about people of either gender and people despite their colour. 

It's not about skin colour linking you to race Whoopi! It's not about men Whoopi?

People, children. Human race.

PS Whilst here ... the same applies to animals too as far as I'm concerned. Whether they're black or blonde or girls or boys etc they're all precious and deserve to be safe!

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. Jewish people ARE a race! And they are a religion too! 1. Jewish ethnicity 2. Jewish religion

Which race are they? Israelis who are Jews descend from multiple ethnicities.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:31pm: 5. Has someone yet to point out to her that her last name is Jewish? Whoopi Goldberg always believed she had Jewish ancestry as did her mother. She changed her surname from Johnson to Goldberg to honour that, although through DNA analysis she came to realise she is highly unlikely to have Jewish ancestry.

Ahh. Thanks for that bit of info. I was wondering about that.

So she changed her English name to a Jewish name.

And is sitting around rescripting Modern History by saying it wasn't all about race ... it was all about men vs men.

She STILL doesn't get The Holocaust! Even in her apology!

Doesn't she have a Public Relations Agent? Someone who could quietly tell her to STFU and say nothing? Her future employment opportunities depend on her mouth staying shut and not talking shyte.


Edit : Any money her silly remarks are REALLY based on some spat btwn herself and some powerful Jewish guy in Hollywood knocking her back for some acting role she was trying to get!

I'm stunned atm.

Why?

I'm not being viciously attacked 😳

Is this OzPol? Am I on the right site? 😂🤣😆

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 9:27am:

DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f

BLM, Jews not so much...

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:47pm: That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism.

Huh? You can't be one without the other. It just depends on their interpretation of "jihad".

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much...

Nobody came even close to such a suggestion.

Why lie?

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie?

I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:53pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:47pm: That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism. Huh? You can't be one without the other. It just depends on their interpretation of "jihad".

An Islamist is committed to establishing a specific Islamic state with a specific region (e.g. the Taliban).

A Jihadist is committed to establishing their version of Islam across the entire world (e.g. al Qaeda).

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:10pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:53pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:47pm: That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism. Huh? You can't be one without the other. It just depends on their interpretation of "jihad". An Islamist is committed to establishing a specific Islamic state with a specific region (e.g. the Taliban). A Jihadist is committed to establishing their version of Islam across the entire world (e.g. al Qaeda).

A Jihadi it just doing his best for the struggle of Islam in his own way. You must be a Muslim to conduct Jihad, hence vice versa.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:17pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it.

Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish.

Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:10pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:53pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:47pm: That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism. Huh? You can't be one without the other. It just depends on their interpretation of "jihad". An Islamist is committed to establishing a specific Islamic state with a specific region (e.g. the Taliban). A Jihadist is committed to establishing their version of Islam across the entire world (e.g. al Qaeda).

And if you amalgamate The Taliban and Al Qaeda you get terrorists.

So it looks like Setanta may have been right after all.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:17pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white".

This is an American problem where a simplistic definition of race has evolved.

The European / African / Asian definition and identification of race is greatly more diverse than the American one.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:54pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. Jewish people ARE a race! And they are a religion too! 1. Jewish ethnicity 2. Jewish religion Which race are they? Israelis who are Jews descend from multiple ethnicities.

Did they now?

What were they?

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid.

Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said...

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". This is an American problem where a simplistic definition of race has evolved. The European / African / Asian definition and identification of race is greatly more diverse than the American one.

Black American or White American problem?

Asking for a friend. Well she's not really a friend but I liked her in Sister Act 1 and 2.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:26pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said...

Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white.

You lied.

God knows why.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:23pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:19pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:10pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:53pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:47pm: That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism. Huh? You can't be one without the other. It just depends on their interpretation of "jihad". An Islamist is committed to establishing a specific Islamic state with a specific region (e.g. the Taliban). A Jihadist is committed to establishing their version of Islam across the entire world (e.g. al Qaeda). And if you amalgamate The Taliban and Al Qaeda you get terrorists. So it looks like Setanta may have been right after all.

Only to those who don't know the difference.

Two ideologies that may ally themselves when convenient doesn't make them the same.

US forces and the Mujahedeen were obviously driven by vastly different ideologies, but they allied with each other against the Soviets.

With Islamists and Jihadists - When the Islamists gain their state, that's when their alliance  usually ends and then they turn on each other.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:57pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:54pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. Jewish people ARE a race! And they are a religion too! 1. Jewish ethnicity 2. Jewish religion Which race are they? Israelis who are Jews descend from multiple ethnicities. Did they now? What were they?

There are Ethiopian Jews, Sephardic Jews, Arab Jews, Ashkenazi (Turkic/Slavic) Jews. Jews of European descent (i.e. no semite ancestry) &etc.

Is Christianity or Catholicism a race?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". This is an American problem where a simplistic definition of race has evolved. The European / African / Asian definition and identification of race is greatly more diverse than the American one. Black American or White American problem? Asking for a friend. Well she's not really a friend but I liked her in Sister Act 1 and 2.

More of an African-American problem.

European 'whites' don't imagine they're all the same ethnicity.

Italians and Irish don't consider themselves the same racial ancestry for example.

Just different names for the same bunch of Satan worshipers.

One cult of death for all......muzzos.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why.

Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:19pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:10pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:53pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:47pm: That's why those of us larned in such things use the terms Muslim, Islamic and Islamist As Jihadist / Jihadi are distinct from Islamist / Islamism. Huh? You can't be one without the other. It just depends on their interpretation of "jihad". An Islamist is committed to establishing a specific Islamic state with a specific region (e.g. the Taliban). A Jihadist is committed to establishing their version of Islam across the entire world (e.g. al Qaeda). And if you amalgamate The Taliban and Al Qaeda you get terrorists. So it looks like Setanta may have been right after all. Only to those who don't know the difference. Two ideologies that may ally themselves when convenient doesn't make them the same. US forces and the Mujahedeen were obviously driven by vastly different ideologies, but they allied with each other against the Soviets. With Islamists and Jihadists - When the Islamists gain their state, that's when their alliance  usually ends and then they turn on each other.

So bottom line : terrorists have their own particular ideological objectives.

That doesn't negate the fact that they are still terrorists.

And the groups you've mentioned ARE global terrorists with an abhorrent track record.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:28pm:

Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white.

And not all jews are white. e.g. Ethiopian Jews.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:35pm:

So bottom line : terrorists have their own particular ideological objectives. That doesn't negate the fact that they are still terrorists. And the groups you've mentioned ARE global terrorists with an abhorrent track record.

The Islamist Taliban have not extended their war outside of Afghanistan.

All religious ideologies have an abhorrent track record. Catholics, Orthodox and various Protestant groups warred for 300 years.

In the Catholic - Orthodox rift, it's been going on for over 1000 years, made hilarious when the priests have punch-ups in Jerusalem!

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:34pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why. Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge.

She said, and profusely apologised for when corrected, that the war against the Jewish people was not racism because it was white on white.

She was, mistakenly but understandably from her perspective, defining racism as a black and white thing.

She was corrected,. She has apologised. Profusely.

And you're just being grubby.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:34pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why. Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge. She said, and profusely apologised for when corrected, that the war against the Jewish people was not racism because it was white on white. She was, mistakenly but understandably from her perspective, defining racism as a black and white thing. She was corrected,. She has apologised. Profusely. And you're just being grubby.

Yes. I think she can be forgiven, not least because the perception of race being an issue of black vs white is universal among African-Americans.

One thing in her favor

She is black.

So she at least has a chance of forgivness.
Had she been white, she would have been better off just topping herself.

Just an observation.
There are no black Jews?
Interesting eh?

Valkie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:

One thing in her favor She is black. So she at least has a chance of forgivness. Had she been white, she would have been better off just topping herself. Just an observation. There are no black Jews? Interesting eh?

Of course there are black Jewish people, you ridiculous bigot.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:31pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:57pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:54pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. Jewish people ARE a race! And they are a religion too! 1. Jewish ethnicity 2. Jewish religion Which race are they? Israelis who are Jews descend from multiple ethnicities. Did they now? What were they? 1. There are Ethiopian Jews, Sephardic Jews, Arab Jews, Ashkenazi (Turkic/Slavic) Jews. Jews of European descent (i.e. no semite ancestry) &etc. 2. Is Christianity or Catholicism a race?

1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.

2. Thank you for separating Christians from Catholics.

Catholics are not Christians. They do not adhere to the teachings of Christ.

They still follow their own pagan based pathway.
And whilst here I may as well include the Church of England (high order). That is full of Catholics and identifies as Catholic anyway.

Catholicism, Christianity are not a race.

Being Jewish is. Sorry but you can't slot everything into the pre set categories you've got in your mind's eye. That's not how it always works.

Think of it like this : You have a lot of socks drying on the line and all get paired up beautifully and folded nicely and neatly to slot into the drawer. Then there's the ever present odd sock. No matter what you do or say. It's STILL a sock. It won't slot into the drawer nicely and neatly and will always sit there on top of the drawer. By itself. Looking at you every time you walk by. Just to remind you that it's different.

Apologies for the analogy but I'm a housewife so ...anyway. I gots ta go. Catch you later 👌

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:31pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:57pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 12:54pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:31am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 11:13am: Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did. You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was. So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of... Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. Jewish people ARE a race! And they are a religion too! 1. Jewish ethnicity 2. Jewish religion Which race are they? Israelis who are Jews descend from multiple ethnicities. Did they now? What were they? 1. There are Ethiopian Jews, Sephardic Jews, Arab Jews, Ashkenazi (Turkic/Slavic) Jews. Jews of European descent (i.e. no semite ancestry) &etc. 2. Is Christianity or Catholicism a race? 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 2. Thank you for separating Christians from Catholics. Catholics are not Christians. They do not adhere to the teachings of Christ. They still follow their own pagan based pathway. And whilst here I may as well include the Church of England (high order). That is full of Catholics and identifies as Catholic anyway. Catholicism, Christianity are not a race. Being Jewish is. Sorry but you can't slot everything into the pre set categories you've got in your mind's eye. That's not how it always works. Think of it like this : You have a lot of socks drying on the line and all get paired up beautifully and folded nicely and neatly to slot into the drawer. Then there's the ever present odd sock. No matter what you do or say. It's STILL a sock. It won't slot into the drawer nicely and neatly and will always sit there on top of the drawer. By itself. Looking at you every time you walk by. Just to remind you that it's different. Apologies for the analogy but I'm a housewife so ...anyway. I gots ta go. Catch you later 👌

It's impossible to know where to start.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:34pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why. Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge. She said, and profusely apologised for when corrected, that the war against the Jewish people was not racism because it was white on white. She was, mistakenly but understandably from her perspective, defining racism as a black and white thing. She was corrected,. She has apologised. Profusely. And you're just being grubby.

And people profusely apologising when they say shite makes it all better? You wouldn't accept that from someone on the other side. You would just say they are in damage control and it doesn't change what they said and what they believe.

I apologise, all good now?

Valkie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Just an observation. There are no black Jews? Interesting eh?

Haven't heard of Ethiopian Jews?

You haven't heard of the Mossad's 'Operation Moses', 'Operation Joshua' and 'Operation Solomon' the extraction of Ethiopian jews to be resettled Israel to protect them from a military coup.

The Ethiopian Jews claim their religious ancestry from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:57pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm: Just an observation. There are no black Jews? Interesting eh? Haven't heard of Ethiopian Jews? You haven't heard of the Mossad's 'Operation Moses', 'Operation Joshua' and 'Operation Solomon' the extraction of Ethiopian jews to be resettled Israel to protect them from a military coup. The Ethiopian Jews claim their religious ancestry from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

The ones the other Jews don't want in their country? Racists!

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:

1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.

There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:56pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:34pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why. Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge. She said, and profusely apologised for when corrected, that the war against the Jewish people was not racism because it was white on white. She was, mistakenly but understandably from her perspective, defining racism as a black and white thing. She was corrected,. She has apologised. Profusely. And you're just being grubby. And people profusely apologising when they say shite makes it all better? You wouldn't accept that from someone on the other side. You would just say they are in damage control and it doesn't change what they said and what they believe. I apologise, all good now?

What is wrong with you?

No. apologies don't make 'everything good' but even children know that.


But sincere apologies for our misdeeds go considerable way towards mitigating the damage we may have done.

Whoopie not only apologised, she explained how she had been educate3d.

To my mind, that is tremendously powerful. More good may come from her ignorance than would have without it,

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:57pm: Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm: Just an observation. There are no black Jews? Interesting eh? Haven't heard of Ethiopian Jews? You haven't heard of the Mossad's 'Operation Moses', 'Operation Joshua' and 'Operation Solomon' the extraction of Ethiopian jews to be resettled Israel to protect them from a military coup. The Ethiopian Jews claim their religious ancestry from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. The ones the other Jews don't want in their country? Racists!

Giving evidence that even Israeli Jews do not see themselves as a single race because of their religious and/or cultural adherence to Judaism.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.

And the word antisemitism? I don't think the Nazi's came up with that one. We know Semites are/were a people. Arabs are Semites too.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.

In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:58pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:57pm: Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm: Just an observation. There are no black Jews? Interesting eh? Haven't heard of Ethiopian Jews? You haven't heard of the Mossad's 'Operation Moses', 'Operation Joshua' and 'Operation Solomon' the extraction of Ethiopian jews to be resettled Israel to protect them from a military coup. The Ethiopian Jews claim their religious ancestry from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. The ones the other Jews don't want in their country? Racists! Giving evidence that even Israeli Jews do not see themselves as a single race because of their religious and/or cultural adherence to Judaism.

I agree with you but will continue with the definitions the world allows rather than our own.

Edit: They should all be transported to Tasmania for the benefit of world peace according to Aussie and if they do not comply, on their heads be it.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:42pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:34pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why. Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge. She said, and profusely apologised for when corrected, that the war against the Jewish people was not racism because it was white on white. She was, mistakenly but understandably from her perspective, defining racism as a black and white thing. She was corrected,. She has apologised. Profusely. And you're just being grubby. Yes. I think she can be forgiven, not least because the perception of race being an issue of black vs white is universal among African-Americans.

I disagree with BOTH your comments. So does the article. And her industry colleagues.

"The View co-host Joy Behar said backstage that Goldberg was "dead wrong" and "may not ever recover from this," and could not believe Goldberg "wouldn't stand corrected until she was forced."

The insider said that Goldberg's agents are "panicking" about how she "may have ruined herself for good."



Her apology was forced. Forced!

Have you even read the entire article? She then rescripted the Holocaust as being about men being nasty to men. Hello? Women? Children?

She just needs to STFU and stop being so horrible. And wrong!

I don't understand why you're trying to minimise her actions. And yet that what you've done in this topic. To the point where the article itself is disagreeing with her.

And as regards the notion of being Jewish I can tell you now that those definitions you've used are purely religious driven. It's not correct. Jewish people would be offended at your definition. They have always remained separate. From the get go. That is why they have maintained strict divisions btwn themselves and others. To an ethnic Jew these 2 divisions still stand : Jews vs Gentiles.

You're just choosing to smudge this very real and highly respected cultural tradition that stems from
their Jewish religion. Smudge all you like. It doesn't make it fact. It's just your baseless opinion.

Israel has had an awful history and the people from there ie the Jews were forced into exile whilst being exterminated. They were in effect alienated from their homeland for many years leaving it vulnerable for Arabs to move in and take over while they were busy being exterminated elsewhere.

Next you'll be saying Jews should never have been given their own state back. You better not start on that because I swear I'm going to tear into you. I happen to believe people have a right to retain their ethnicity in ANY country they live in. And they also have the right to return to the country representing their ethnic heritage. You can't surely be  advocating against Israel existing. You better not be. Are you? i

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

Yes.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:42pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:34pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:23pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:17pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 9:27am: DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-insiders-say-should-be-fired/84dfe1fd-e69d-4a6e-a07a-80a940938c1f BLM, Jews not so much... Nobody came even close to such a suggestion. Why lie? I suggested it. I didn't lie. Quote "and said that Nazis and Jews were both white". There's your racism. Did I put words into Whoopi's mouth, yep, because that's what she said. Jews are white, they don't matter. Can you quote her on anything BLM for me? I'm sure I can do it myself but I'd like to see you spin it. Of all the knuckleheaded rubbish. Seriously, what the hell happened to you? You were never this stupid. Don't blame me for her words Kaiju, that's what she said... Whoopie never said Jewish people don't matter because they're white. You lied. God knows why. Well that's one interpretation and one I'm sure you'll stick to, doesn't make you correct. Her equating Jews and whites, a rather specious thing to say, is the clue you don't want to acknowledge. She said, and profusely apologised for when corrected, that the war against the Jewish people was not racism because it was white on white. She was, mistakenly but understandably from her perspective, defining racism as a black and white thing. She was corrected,. She has apologised. Profusely. And you're just being grubby. Yes. I think she can be forgiven, not least because the perception of race being an issue of black vs white is universal among African-Americans. I disagree with BOTH your comments. So does the article. And her industry colleagues. "The View co-host Joy Behar said backstage that Goldberg was "dead wrong" and "may not ever recover from this," and could not believe Goldberg "wouldn't stand corrected until she was forced." The insider said that Goldberg's agents are "panicking" about how she "may have ruined herself for good." Her apology was forced. Forced! Have you even read the entire article? She then rescripted the Holocaust as being about men being nasty to men. Hello? Women? Children? She just needs to STFU and stop being so horrible. And wrong! I don't understand why you're trying to minimise her actions. And yet that what you've done in this topic. To the point where the article itself is disagreeing with her. And as regards the notion of being Jewish I can tell you now that those definitions you've used are purely religious driven. It's not correct. Jewish people would be offended at your definition. They have always remained separate. From the get go. That is why they have maintained strict divisions btwn themselves and others. To an ethnic Jew these 2 divisions still stand : Jews vs Gentiles. You're just choosing to smudge this very real and highly respected cultural tradition that stems from their Jewish religion. Smudge all you like. It doesn't make it fact. It's just your baseless opinion. Israel has had an awful history and the people from there ie the Jews were forced into exile whilst being exterminated. They were in effect alienated from their homeland for many years leaving it vulnerable for Arabs to move in and take over while they were busy being exterminated elsewhere. Next you'll be saying Jews should never have been given their own state back. You better not start on that because I swear I'm going to tear into you. I happen to believe people have a right to retain their ethnicity in ANY country they live in. And they also have the right to return to the country representing their ethnic heritage. You can't surely be  advocating against Israel existing. You better not be. Are you?

Anyone who hinges their opinion on the kind of garbage Gordy posted in OP ... "insiders reveal" etc ... deserves to believe what they've been spoon-fed.

No doubt, youll have it confirmed when this weeks edition of No Idea comes out.

Meanwhile, best let the grown-ups talk, yes?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.

1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic.

2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students.

We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p.

Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:

To an ethnic Jew these 2 divisions still stand : Jews vs Gentiles.

Ever heard the old Jewish saying, 'divide when we can, unite when we must'?

There are multiple traditions within Judaism because Judaism itself is not monlothic nor confined to any race.

Within Judaism there is ultra-orthodox, orthodox, progressive, reform.

There are also Karaite, Reconstructionist, Renewal, Haymanot and Humanistic Judaisms.

And they all have problems with each other's version of Judaism.

Judaism has never been monolithic. Not in its history. Not even 2000 years ago.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes.

Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

What race are Jews?

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:01pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:58pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:57pm: Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm: Just an observation. There are no black Jews? Interesting eh? Haven't heard of Ethiopian Jews? You haven't heard of the Mossad's 'Operation Moses', 'Operation Joshua' and 'Operation Solomon' the extraction of Ethiopian jews to be resettled Israel to protect them from a military coup. The Ethiopian Jews claim their religious ancestry from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. The ones the other Jews don't want in their country? Racists! Giving evidence that even Israeli Jews do not see themselves as a single race because of their religious and/or cultural adherence to Judaism. I agree with you but will continue with the definitions the world allows rather than our own. Edit: They should all be transported to Tasmania for the benefit of world peace according to Aussie and if they do not comply, on their heads be it.

Hang on! Isn't that where Monk is moving to? Tasmania? You may as well forget world peace now 😂

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews?

DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews?

Jewish.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African.

It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam.

Muhammed Ali had the same experience.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

That's the only reason? Not that you're leaving out a tremendous percentage of Muslims by politley refusing to call them Arab? Like all the African and Asian ones? ANd the American, English, Australian, Danish, Swedish, French ....you get the drift.

Thought you were being generous did you?

Really, you were just being a bigot.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews? Jewish.

So, genetically there's a Jewish race? How are Ethiopians Jews the same by race as Turkic/Slavic Ashkenazi Jews?

dup

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews? DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians.

Ethiopians and all dark races descended from Ham the second son of Noah.

The Jews descended from Shem the eldest son of Noah.

The Arabs didn't descend from Shem. They were descended from a mix of Shem and Ham.

Nth and Sth Europeans and British etc descended from Japheth the youngest son of Noah.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience.

If that's really the case, perhaps racism has a real place in the world. Getting it on with neighbouring people has never been a problem, from Neaderthals to, well anyone with feelings and a sex drive, the things that divide people are mind viruses, religions, cultures not the people themselves.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience.

I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:30pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews? Jewish. So, genetically there's a Jewish race? How are Ethiopians Jews the same by race as Turkic/Slavic Ashkenazi Jews?

Refer previous post.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.

Spurned? Oh, do tell!

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:27pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews? DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians. Ethiopians and all dark races descended from Ham the second son of Noah. The Jews descended from Shem the eldest son of Noah. The Arabs didn't descend from Shem. They were descended from a mix of Shem and Ham. Nth and Sth Europeans and British etc descended from Japheth the youngest son of Noah.

Oh for crying out loud.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.

No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:33pm:

Oh for crying out loud.

It's the problem of confusing religious myth as history.

Dear God I was wondering when Malcolm ax's name turned up.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:34pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: Oh for crying out loud. It's the problem of confusing religious myth as history.

Who told you that?

It's not true at all.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:30pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. 1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. 2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. 1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic. 2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students. We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p. Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah? What race are Jews? Jewish. So, genetically there's a Jewish race? How are Ethiopians Jews the same by race as Turkic/Slavic Ashkenazi Jews?

Ever heard of the diaspora?

Look it up. It will help explain why.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:33pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad. No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud.

There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:27pm:

DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians.

Oh really?

Ashkenazi jews are of Iranian/Turkic/Slavic descent.

Ethiopians claim Judaism was introduced to the land now called Ethiopia by Solomon.

And those Jews who are descended from converts to Judaism across Europe over the centuries?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:34pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: Oh for crying out loud. It's the problem of confusing religious myth as history.

Or, indeed, reality.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:37pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad. No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud. There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle.

Ah, the eternal problem of the cancer of Islam!

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:40pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad. No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud. There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle. Ah, the eternal problem of the cancer of Islam!

No. But i'm sure you'll tell yourself it was.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:37pm:

Ever heard of the diaspora? Look it up. It will help explain why.

Diasporas do not protect a racial identity from change.

All diasporas result in a genetic deviation from their original ancestors.

DNA Haplogroup and subclade diversity are the result of diasporic migrations.

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:40pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad. No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud. There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle. Ah, the eternal problem of the cancer of Islam! No. But i'm sure you'll tell yourself it was.

You've never read it's history, have you. I bet you are a pacifist too. Islam is not something you want to have to live with.

Setanta wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:45pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:41pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:40pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad. No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud. There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle. Ah, the eternal problem of the cancer of Islam! No. But i'm sure you'll tell yourself it was. You've never read it's history, have you. I bet you are a pacifist too. Islam is not something you want to have to live with.

I've read tremendous amounts of history ... and i know a significant number of Muslims that i like very much.

They're not even a little bit like you.

Hmmm I must say. It's been an interesting discussion. For those joining us....here is a quick summary:

1. We have Anti Semitism in our midst. 😐

2. Setanta and I are not Anti Semitic.

3. We also have people in our midst who know SFA about genocide or modern history. Or anthropology for that matter. But they do specialise in confabulation and a peculiar brand of rescripting the inconvenient bits of history which interfere with their Anti Semitic agenda.

4. Monk is about to move to Tasmania and this will interrupt world peace.

5. Mothra is still sitting online hour after hour name calling and abusing others.😐

6. Mothra's tag team mate is of course Greg using yet another id. 😐

The End

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:45pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:41pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:40pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm: Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm: mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm: 1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice. In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime. Yes. Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer. Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African. It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam. Muhammed Ali had the same experience. I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad. No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud. There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle. Ah, the eternal problem of the cancer of Islam! No. But i'm sure you'll tell yourself it was. You've never read it's history, have you. I bet you are a pacifist too. Islam is not something you want to have to live with. I've read tremendous amounts of history ... and i know a significant number of Muslims that i like very much. They're not even a little bit like you.

Cool story, sis...

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Hmmm I must say. It's been an interesting discussion. For those joining us....here is a quick summary: 1. We have Anti Semitism in our midst. 😐 2. Setanta and I are not Anti Semitic. 3. We also have people in our midst who know SFA about genocide or modern history. Or anthropology for that matter. But they do specialise in confabulation and a peculiar brand of rescripting the inconvenient bits of history which interfere with their Anti Semitic agenda. 4. Monk is about to move to Tasmania and this will interrupt world peace. 5. Mothra is still sitting online hour after hour name calling and abusing others.😐 6. Mothra's tag team mate is of course Greg using yet another id. 😐 The End

You seem obsessed with other people not being their 'real' identity. This is the second time you've done that with me (if I'm who you're referring to).

Also, there have been no antisemitic posts made on this thread by anyone.

Don't worry about it, Meister. Lisa is convinced everyone is a sock of everyone else.

Well, the people that question, challenge or disagree with her at least anyway.

You get used to it.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:43pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: Ever heard of the diaspora? Look it up. It will help explain why. 1. Diasporas do not protect a racial identity from change. 2. All diasporas result in a genetic deviation from their original ancestors.

That's right. Glad you googled that for yourself.

Now you know why we have those mixed races you mentioned.

One other thing you've NOT yet googled is this .... the process of genetic deviation can take hundreds or even thousands of years depending on the race concerned.

You seem to think all races follow the same pre set pattern of change. They don't. And their cultural traditions and customs ensure that they move at a pace that's nothing like the general googled bits you've been posting up either. Or that confabulation driven rescript of modern history which I can't even find anywhere on Google so I can only assume you blew it out of your @rse.

Oh and I'm not obsessed with the fact that you're using a multi id. I'm just calling you out in it because it's childish. And past boring. Even for you.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:43pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: Ever heard of the diaspora? Look it up. It will help explain why. 1. Diasporas do not protect a racial identity from change. 2. All diasporas result in a genetic deviation from their original ancestors. That's right. Glad you googled that for yourself. Now you know why we have those mixed races you mentioned. One other thing you've not googled is this .... the process can take hundreds or even thousands of years depending on the race concerned. You seem to think all races follow the same pre set pattern of change. They don't. And their cultural traditions and customs ensure that they move at a pace that's nothing like the general googled bits you've posted up either. Oh and I'm not obsessed with the fact that you're using a multi id. I'm just calling you out in it because it's childish. And past boring. Even for you.

I think I've had enough of this multi id thing.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:50pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:47pm: Hmmm I must say. It's been an interesting discussion. For those joining us....here is a quick summary: 1. We have Anti Semitism in our midst. 😐 2. Setanta and I are not Anti Semitic. 3. We also have people in our midst who know SFA about genocide or modern history. Or anthropology for that matter. But they do specialise in confabulation and a peculiar brand of rescripting the inconvenient bits of history which interfere with their Anti Semitic agenda. 4. Monk is about to move to Tasmania and this will interrupt world peace. 5. Mothra is still sitting online hour after hour name calling and abusing others.😐 6. Mothra's tag team mate is of course Greg using yet another id. 😐 The End You seem obsessed with other people not being their 'real' identity. This is the second time you've done that with me (if I'm who you're referring to). Also, there have been no antisemitic posts made on this thread by anyone.

There are a few people that think everyone is someone else.

In fact there are one or two who firmly believe that Greggory is every member.

Whoopie had a dopey moment and got it wrong but there was nothing malicious about it.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:50pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:47pm: Hmmm I must say. It's been an interesting discussion. For those joining us....here is a quick summary: 1. We have Anti Semitism in our midst. 😐 2. Setanta and I are not Anti Semitic. 3. We also have people in our midst who know SFA about genocide or modern history. Or anthropology for that matter. But they do specialise in confabulation and a peculiar brand of rescripting the inconvenient bits of history which interfere with their Anti Semitic agenda. 4. Monk is about to move to Tasmania and this will interrupt world peace. 5. Mothra is still sitting online hour after hour name calling and abusing others.😐 6. Mothra's tag team mate is of course Greg using yet another id. 😐 The End You seem obsessed with other people not being their 'real' identity. This is the second time you've done that with me (if I'm who you're referring to). Also, there have been no antisemitic posts made on this thread by anyone. There are a few people that think everyone is someone else. In fact there are one or two who firmly believe that Greggory is every member.

I suppose it's easier to pretend that only one person thinks you're an idiot than a whole swathe.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:

Whoopie had a dopey moment and got it wrong but there was nothing malicious about it.

Yes.

A simplistic definition of race appears to be entrenched in the African-American community but maybe it includes white Americans who do not identify as anything other than American.

White people seldom identify solely as white. They nearly always refer to themselves by a racial or national identity (e.g. Slavic, Celtic, Anglo etc).

It's understandable among African Americans given that slavery annihilated their specific African identities such that they only have African-American as a singular identity.

With Whoopi, we should move on. She was not intending to vilify Jews or trivialise the Holocaust.

dup

Dnarever wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:

Whoopie had a dopey moment and got it wrong but there was nothing malicious about it.

And she learned. And shared her learning with the rest of us.

dup

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Hmmm I must say. It's been an interesting discussion. For those joining us....here is a quick summary: 1. We have Anti Semitism in our midst. 😐 2. Setanta and I are not Anti Semitic. 3. We also have people in our midst who know SFA about genocide or modern history. Or anthropology for that matter. But they do specialise in confabulation and a peculiar brand of rescripting the inconvenient bits of history which interfere with their Anti Semitic agenda. 4. Monk is about to move to Tasmania and this will interrupt world peace. 5. Mothra is still sitting online hour after hour name calling and abusing others.😐 6. Mothra's tag team mate is of course Greg using yet another id. 😐 The End

Greg is all powerful - Gregg is everyone - everyone is Gregg.

Long live all the Gregg's

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Don't worry about it, Meister. Lisa is convinced everyone is a sock of everyone else. Well, the people that question, challenge or disagree with her at least anyway. You get used to it.

You copied what I said before me.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:47pm: Hmmm I must say. It's been an interesting discussion. For those joining us....here is a quick summary: 1. We have Anti Semitism in our midst. 😐 2. Setanta and I are not Anti Semitic. 3. We also have people in our midst who know SFA about genocide or modern history. Or anthropology for that matter. But they do specialise in confabulation and a peculiar brand of rescripting the inconvenient bits of history which interfere with their Anti Semitic agenda. 4. Monk is about to move to Tasmania and this will interrupt world peace. 5. Mothra is still sitting online hour after hour name calling and abusing others.😐 6. Mothra's tag team mate is of course Greg using yet another id. 😐 The End Greg is all powerful - Gregg is everyone - everyone is Gregg. Long live all the Gregg's

He's my boyfriend. Cods says so.

That makes me his moll.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:53pm: Don't worry about it, Meister. Lisa is convinced everyone is a sock of everyone else. Well, the people that question, challenge or disagree with her at least anyway. You get used to it. You copied what I said before me.

Am i ... you?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:43pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm: Ever heard of the diaspora? Look it up. It will help explain why. 1. Diasporas do not protect a racial identity from change. 2. All diasporas result in a genetic deviation from their original ancestors. That's right. Glad you googled that for yourself. Now you know why we have those mixed races you mentioned. One other thing you've NOT yet googled is this .... the process of genetic deviation can take hundreds or even thousands of years depending on the race concerned. You seem to think all races follow the same pre set pattern of change. They don't. And their cultural traditions and customs ensure that they move at a pace that's nothing like the general googled bits you've been posting up either. Or that confabulation driven rescript of modern history which I can't even find anywhere on Google so I can only assume you blew it out of your @rse. Oh and I'm not obsessed with the fact that you're using a multi id. I'm just calling you out in it because it's childish. And past boring. Even for you.

One other thing...if you're going to respond to my posts .... do yourself a favour and read each paragraph.

Don't mistreat my posts in the same way you mistreat history...by smearing it with disrespect and disregard because large slabs of it don't align with your agenda.

And your agenda is unmistakably anti Semitic. Your subsequent denial of it is just like your perverse fractured fairy tale take on history. Absolute nonsense.

My husband has an older sister who is married to a Jewish Medical Professional here in Sydney. That brother in law by marriage had parents and aunts and uncles who perished in the Holocaust.

The 3 children they have are well aware of their ethnicity. And religion. My husband's sister changed her religion (she is Jewish by Faith) and married/still attend their local synagogue with her husband and children. The children may be ethnically half Jewish but they identify as Jewish. They attended notable Jewish schools which supported their Jewish ethnic values and traditions AS WELL as religion which sits at the centre of Jewish ethnic identity.

The filth you've shoved in front of my eyes this afternoon is also seriously flawed and depraved.

Just like Whoopie (bringing the topic back now) you should have STFU but instead you've chosen to continue spouting cr@p at every turn.

What initially gave you away? Your posts essentially disagreed with the article itself. To the point where I started to take notice of your BS. As being just that ie BS. I even had to throw excerpts of the article at your face only to find you pretend that the information wasn't even there. And you continued posting stuff that wasn't even in the article. It was just more invented cr@p made by you on the spot. That sort of shyte is uncalled for.

Don't do it again when responding to me. Others might have the patience and the ability to put up with it. I don't. I'm also menopausal so best you keep that in mind too. My lack of patience and tolerance for BS no doubt has something to do with that too.

Other than that by all means have a lovely afternoon and evening.