thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:52pm:

Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion.

This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore.

So it's only not nonsense when it's the party line?  Who ever told the party bosses they were right all the time and knew everything? Must be wonderful to be that good..... definitely FIGJAMs - F*ck I'm Good Just Ask Me!

How anyone could believe that is beyond me.  I, for one, KNOW that I know better than any party boss here in Oz.

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 4:12pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore.

Freediver....the same guy has also admitted that he's on school holidays atm. 😩

I thought the stooges has been recalled for a different mission. But then today they both turned up at the same time, with more pamphlets to read from.

A new species of Homo has just emerged out of the Rift Valley to replace and out-breed the more primitive Homo Sapien's dead end branch.

...we can only wish.

freediver wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

I thought the stooges has been recalled for a different mission. But then today they both turned up at the same time, with more pamphlets to read from.

They obviously needed their 50c today.

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 4:12pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore.

The British killed 100s of millions of Indians without batting an eyelid.

The British practiced genocide indiscriminately and murdered Scotsmen, Irishmen, Indians, American Indians, Chinese, Burmese, Africans, Australian Aborigines, and anybody else whose death they deemed would profit the crown.

https://historiesofcolour.com/THE-BRITISH-RAJ#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20the%20myth%20that,an%20estimated%201.8%20billion%20Indians.


Quote:

... It has been estimated that Britain stole a total of nearly $45 trillion from India during the period 1765 to 1938. The British impoverished India through a taxation operation that equated to systematic theft. Put simply, the British exhorted high taxes in cash from the Indian population, used that tax money to pay Indians for their goods, and then exported the goods overseas and invested the profits into the British economy and a colonial army of Indian men that far surpassed India’s own defence needs. The British destabilised crop patterns by forced commercial cropping, and left Indians more prone to famines. Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while India was under the control of the British Empire. In response to the outbreak of famines, the British authorities rarely issued relief, insisting that starvation was a ‘natural’ and ‘necessary’ check for overpopulation. During the Great Famine of 1876-78 in Madras, it wasn’t until 5.5 million Indians had already died that the British authorities began to administer any relief efforts. Instead of giving charity, the British set up labour camps for the poor where Indian workers were fed food portions that were less than 50% of the size given in Nazi concentration camps. Winston Churchill infamously made the statement ‘I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion’. Churchill’s decision to send grain from Bengal to Yugoslavia to increase reserve stocks for the British Army caused the Great Bengal Famine of 1943, in which 4.3 million Indians died. Churchill declared ‘the famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits’. Ignoring the warnings of catastrophe, Churchill not only refused to divert supplies from British troops, but blocked the USA and Canada from delivering foreign aid and forbade India from using its own currency reserves to import food. In response to a report that raised concern over the rising death toll in Bengal, Churchill wrote in its margin the dark-humoured question, ‘Why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?’ ...

More of them where they come from.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 8:17pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. The British killed 100s of millions of Indians without batting an eyelid. The British practiced genocide indiscriminately and murdered Scotsmen, Irishmen, Indians, American Indians, Chinese, Burmese, Africans, Australian Aborigines, and anybody else whose death they deemed would profit the crown. https://historiesofcolour.com/THE-BRITISH-RAJ#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20the%20myth%20that,an%20estimated%201.8%20billion%20Indians. Quote: ... It has been estimated that Britain stole a total of nearly $45 trillion from India during the period 1765 to 1938. The British impoverished India through a taxation operation that equated to systematic theft. Put simply, the British exhorted high taxes in cash from the Indian population, used that tax money to pay Indians for their goods, and then exported the goods overseas and invested the profits into the British economy and a colonial army of Indian men that far surpassed India’s own defence needs. The British destabilised crop patterns by forced commercial cropping, and left Indians more prone to famines. Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while India was under the control of the British Empire. In response to the outbreak of famines, the British authorities rarely issued relief, insisting that starvation was a ‘natural’ and ‘necessary’ check for overpopulation. During the Great Famine of 1876-78 in Madras, it wasn’t until 5.5 million Indians had already died that the British authorities began to administer any relief efforts. Instead of giving charity, the British set up labour camps for the poor where Indian workers were fed food portions that were less than 50% of the size given in Nazi concentration camps. Winston Churchill infamously made the statement ‘I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion’. Churchill’s decision to send grain from Bengal to Yugoslavia to increase reserve stocks for the British Army caused the Great Bengal Famine of 1943, in which 4.3 million Indians died. Churchill declared ‘the famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits’. Ignoring the warnings of catastrophe, Churchill not only refused to divert supplies from British troops, but blocked the USA and Canada from delivering foreign aid and forbade India from using its own currency reserves to import food. In response to a report that raised concern over the rising death toll in Bengal, Churchill wrote in its margin the dark-humoured question, ‘Why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?’ ...

Just imagine outdoing all that in about 1 year by actually trying to feed people. That's what the Chinese Communist Party accomplished. No wars necessary. No theft. No tax. There wasn't even a drought. There was actually a major flood.

Nothing more than a government the three stooges want us to believe is "pragmatic".

The genocide by the British was driven by greed.

"Put simply, the British exhorted high taxes in cash from the Indian population, used that tax money to pay Indians for their goods, and then exported the goods overseas and invested the profits into the British economy and a colonial army of Indian men that far surpassed India’s own defence needs.

The British destabilised crop patterns by forced commercial cropping, and left Indians more prone to famines. Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while India was under the control of the British Empire."

Extortion, genocide, and greed should be immortalized as basic British qualities.

"At the beginning of the 18th Century, India's share of the world economy was 23%, as large as all of Europe put together. By the time the British departed India, it had dropped to less than 4%.

The reason was simple: India was governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain's rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.

By the end of the 19th Century, India was Britain's biggest cash-cow, the world's biggest purchaser of British exports and the source of highly paid employment for British civil servants - all at India's own expense. We literally paid for our own oppression."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33618621

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 4:12pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore.

"Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote)
;D

athos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D

The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos.

Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese?

"The British Empire and their colonies were founded on the assumption of the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race as well as the extermination of millions of indigenous peoples and the exploitation of enslaved millions black Africans.
The worst kind of Anglo-Saxon  barbaric racism has manifested itself through genocidal colonial racism that has destroyed hundreds of millions of human lives around the globe.
Naturally, this type of racism is still very present in the British colony called Australia, where the Anglo-Saxon privileged elite continues to oppress the non-Anglo-Saxon population, despite the constant protests of the world's humanitarian organizations for human rights" (quote).
:)

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese?

How could you know what freedom is?
Read again:
"Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote)
;D

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander adults make up around 2% of the Australian population,
they constitute 30% of the national prison population.


https://youtu.be/Lkr8RyicCwI

"I just wonder when ignorant Anglo fossils will understand and acknowledge that China is a capitalist country and that the CCP, apart from its formal name, has nothing to do with communist ideology.
China has proven to have a much more successful capitalism than your Disneyland deep state Plutocracy and corporatocracy that rule your corrupted declining Disneylands".
;D

"Australia is now the only "democratic" nation in the world without a national bill of rights. Some comprehensive form of legal protection for basic rights is otherwise seen as an essential check and balance in democratic governance around the world. Indeed, I can find no example of a democratic nation that has gained a new Constitution or legal system in recent decades that has not included some form of a bill of rights, nor am I aware of any such nation that has done away with a bill of rights once it has been put in place.
Why, then, is Australia the exception? The answer lies in Australian gulag history"

Australia is not a free country. Westerners are trained to believe that that’s what you call any wealthy English-speaking nation with liberal cultural values, but really it’s just a continent-sized US military base with kangaroos. Human rights are allowed only where they are convenient, which is why they are continually disintegrating.
The first mistake in believing that Australia is a free country is believing that it is free. The second is believing that it’s an actual country.
As Julian Assange put it shortly before the Australian government allowed him to be silenced and then imprisoned for journalism exposing US war crimes:

"I love my birth country, Australia, but as a state it doesn’t exist. Here is why: it had its prime minister denounce me, moved to cancel my passport, secretly passed data on me to US intelligence and has never made representations on my behalf. It is owned by US+UK corporations. Before WWII, Australia was dominated by the UK – of which it was a colony. After the war, it subordinated itself to US hegemony. A brief attempt at an independent Australian foreign policy in 1975 resulted in a US+UK-backed constitutional coup".
;D

athos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:54pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D

Are you on the CCP payroll athos?

Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese?

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:59pm: Great Divide Are you being paid to post on political sites. No, I'm here to debate fairness versus "freedom", security versus chaos, and rule by humane authority (via  consensus one-party meritocracy) versus rule by competitive self-interest (via adversarial two-party 'democracy'). Only once have I seen any real attempt at debate from you, when you defended 'survival of the 'fittest'...but then in the next breath claimed the world is being stolen from our children....

Why "freedom"?

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:05pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 7:45pm: A complete load of Chinese agit-prop bullshit. Chinese Values vs. Liberalism: What Ideology Will Shape the International Normative Order? Xuetong Yan The Chinese Journal of International Politics, Volume 11, Issue 1, Spring 2018, Pages 1–22, https://doi.org/10.1093/cjip/poy001 Published: 08 February 2018 "Use the past to serve the present,"  declares the website of the China Centre of Jesus College, Cambridge. It seems a sensible motto, until you know that it’s the first half of a maxim of Chairman Mao’s, and that the second half is ‘make the foreign serve China’. The National Socialist Republic of China. Refuted in another thread: (from 'Chinese Values vs. Liberalism: What Ideology Will Shape the International Normative Order'? "The Christian tradition values the concept of equality as one enjoined by the natural law of life.36 However, due to inherent genetic differences and divergent social environments, disparities between human beings are inevitable, as apparent in variances in intelligence, strength, height, weight, and athleticism, as well as in social differences rooted in family background, education, peers, and so on. Focusing on equality without taking these differences into consideration is equivalent to advocating the jungle law of unquestioned equal rights and zero distinctions between the advantaged and the disadvantaged. The individualist value of liberalism thus often leads to conflict rather than cooperation among human beings. Even when defined in terms of competitive opportunity,37 under circumstances where violent means are the best option for winning competitions, absolute equality can still generate life-and-death rivalry. The war between different religious groups in Libya since 2011 is a case in point.38 Benevolence (ren) is the core idea and social norm of Confucianism, which as a governing principle calls upon state leaders to empathise with and care for their peoples".

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:54pm: freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D Are you on the CCP payroll athos? Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese?

Excellent question which I see is ignored...

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:54pm: freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D Are you on the CCP payroll athos? Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese?

How someone could be free in a British penal colony.

athos wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:32pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:54pm: freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D Are you on the CCP payroll athos? Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How someone could be free in a British penal colony.

Is English your second language?

Perhaps this means something to a Chinese audience.


thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 7:24pm:

The whole sovereignty/ 'election by representation' BS is based on that very delusion. If the King is not sovereign, who is? The individual of course....based on "inherent inalienable rights". Delusional.

If the G7 support Ukrainian territorial integrity then the ChiComms demand such a support for China's invasion of Taiwan - which it calls sessessionist although it was NEVER under Chinese commie rule. 


Global Times@globaltimesnews
China state-affiliated media#Comment

G7 supports territorial integrity.
Okay. Taiwan, China’s “Donetsk”, has been trying to undermine China’s territorial integrity. When China takes action to eradicate secessionist regime in Taiwan, you must also give China unwavering support.


Quote Tweet
Liz Truss@trusslizUnited Kingdom government official · 8h🇬🇧🇺🇸🇩🇪🇫🇷🇨🇦🇮🇹🇯🇵
The G7 Foreign Ministers strongly condemn Russia’s violation of their international commitments.

We agreed a strong package of coordinated escalatory sanctions in response. Our support is unwavering for the territorial integrity of Ukraine.


China is a snake.


… On her way to work one morning
Down the path alongside the lake
A tender-hearted woman saw a poor half-frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Oh well, " she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"
"Take me in, oh, tender woman (yes, come on in)
Take me in, for heaven's sake (yes, come on in)
Take me in, tender woman, " sighed the snake

… Now she wrapped him up all cozy in a coverture of silk
And laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk
Now she hurried home from work that night, as soon she arrived
Now she found that pretty snake she'd taken in had been revived

… Now she clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful, " she cried
"But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
Now she stroked his pretty skin again and then kissed and held him tight
But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite (ooh)

… "I saved you, " cried that woman
"And you've bitten me, even why?
And you know your bite is poisonous and now I'm gonna die"
"Oh, shut up, silly woman, " said that reptile with a grin
"Now you knew darn well I was a snake when you took me in"

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 2:04pm:

I have a beef with the assumption that 'the right to rule' (an absurd proposition in itself, since rights don't exist, only Constitutional Law exists) can only be determined by ONE method.

What do you mean by that?

The CCP gearing up for another catastrophic mistake (to add to its stack of catastrophic mistakes) that  ultimately will be 'forgiven' by force.

The CCP's lethal 'covid zero' stupidity will contribute to China's economic collapse as Shanghai and other major cities are ripped apart by psychotic lockdowns.

It doesn't seem to register with CCP officials that forcing people to cram in lines in huge numbers are, likely, super-spreader events.

Is the CCP competing with Robert Mugabe's government as the world's most murderous and incompetent regime?

Was listening to an ex-NATO senior discussing rule of law (as opposed to rule by law) with the Chinese foreign minister of the day.

He was telling the minister that rule of law meant that everyone was subject to the law.

The minister nodded and said 'yes, the people must follow the law', but it was clear to the NATO senior that the minister was not referring to the CCP and its officials being subject to law.

He explained to the minister the difference between rule of law and rule by law. The minister was nonplussed that governments and their officials should also be subject to law.

Only way for Australia to become free sovereign country is urgent de-Pominization and denazification.
:)

Frank wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2022 at 10:08am:

If the G7 support Ukrainian territorial integrity then the ChiComms demand such a support for China's invasion of Taiwan - which it calls sessessionist although it was NEVER under Chinese commie rule.  Global Times@globaltimesnews China state-affiliated media#Comment G7 supports territorial integrity. Okay. Taiwan, China’s “Donetsk”, has been trying to undermine China’s territorial integrity. When China takes action to eradicate secessionist regime in Taiwan, you must also give China unwavering support. Quote Tweet Liz Truss@trusslizUnited Kingdom government official · 8h🇬🇧🇺🇸🇩🇪🇫🇷🇨🇦🇮🇹🇯🇵 The G7 Foreign Ministers strongly condemn Russia’s violation of their international commitments. We agreed a strong package of coordinated escalatory sanctions in response. Our support is unwavering for the territorial integrity of Ukraine. China is a snake. … On her way to work one morning Down the path alongside the lake A tender-hearted woman saw a poor half-frozen snake His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew "Oh well, " she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you" "Take me in, oh, tender woman (yes, come on in) Take me in, for heaven's sake (yes, come on in) Take me in, tender woman, " sighed the snake … Now she wrapped him up all cozy in a coverture of silk And laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk Now she hurried home from work that night, as soon she arrived Now she found that pretty snake she'd taken in had been revived … Now she clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful, " she cried "But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died" Now she stroked his pretty skin again and then kissed and held him tight But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite (ooh) … "I saved you, " cried that woman "And you've bitten me, even why? And you know your bite is poisonous and now I'm gonna die" "Oh, shut up, silly woman, " said that reptile with a grin "Now you knew darn well I was a snake when you took me in"

Go - tell it to the Solomon Islands government - not the people - the government.......

athos wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:32pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:54pm: freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D Are you on the CCP payroll athos? Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How someone could be free in a British penal colony.

Idiot - this hasn't been a penal colony since 1868.  This is a pubescent nation still trying to find its feet, and still held in the grip of usurpers and thieves and liars - they're called politicians, business people, judges and other public servants of various ilks.

Your alternative is not something anyone would want to adopt... I prefer The Grappler Legacy....

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 7:54pm:

athos wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:59pm: freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:32pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:54pm: freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D Are you on the CCP payroll athos? Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How someone could be free in a British penal colony. Idiot - this hasn't been a penal colony since 1868.  This is a pubescent nation still trying to find its feet, and still held in the grip of usurpers and thieves and liars - they're called politicians, business people, judges and other public servants of various ilks. Your alternative is not something anyone would want to adopt... I prefer The Grappler Legacy....

It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education.
The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens,
but a obedient subjects of her Majesty.

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

;D

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:00pm:

Because Man cannot be trusted with "freedom', his instinctive self-interest will always result in conflict and war, hence the need for international law to outlaw war.

How many wars have there been where the dominant parties on both sides of the conflict were liberal democracies?

Maoist China under Xi can never be our friend
Paul Monk

Geopolitically, economically and in terms of immigration and multiculturalism, China is the biggest challenge we face as a country.

The biggest mistake we keep being invited to make is to think that China is well governed and just another country.

It is vital that there be a deeper and more serious understanding of how it is actually governed.
...
This is the regime in Beijing that has imposed extraordinary economic sanctions on Australia and is seeking to extend its influence and military presence across the South Pacific. This is the regime that its Australian friends urge us to mollify, in the interests of better relations, claiming that the recent deterioration in those relations has been the consequence of tactless rhetoric by the Coalition government.

Its routine behaviour towards its own people, as shown in these excerpts, is ruthless. And they are merely the tip of the iceberg, as Fitzgerald shows in detail.

This is not a regime which any of us should want to see flourish, or expand its influence. On the contrary, we have every reason to seek change in the way it behaves, for our own good and that of the Chinese people. If the other significant states of East Asia, starting with Japan and then including South Korea and Taiwan, can change from developmental dictatorship to liberal democratic governance and political decency, why not China? Change China? The problem isn’t China or the Chinese. It’s the Communist Party’s Maoism.

Paul Monk is the former head of the China desk in the Defence Intelligence Organisation, the author of Thunder from the Silent Zone: Rethinking China (2005), The West in a Nutshell (2009) and Dictators and Dangerous Ideas (2018), among other books.

athos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:54pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm: athos wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:36pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D The original CCP stooge is back. We thought you had been sent off for re-education athos. Which people do you think are more free - the Australian, or the Chinese? How could you know what freedom is? Read again: "Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom". (quote) ;D

don’t want to answer eh? Probably a wise move on your part.

Abolishing the rule of law

On April 28, 2017, the No. 2 Intermediate People’s Court in China’s northern port city of Tianjin announced the conviction and sentencing of lawyer Li Heping for subversion of state power.

Two years earlier, the authorities had ordered the arrest and detention of more than 300 lawyers in the infamous “709 crackdown” (July 9, 2015) targeting China’s professional legal defenders.

Li was one of them. Over two years in detention, pending trial, he was tortured by electric shock and forcibly medicated with a drug that, by his wife’s account, caused “muscle pains, lethargy and blurred vision”. One month was spent in shackles, leaving him ­unable to stand.

On that same day, in Tianjin’s sister city of Melbourne, former prime minister Paul Keating took to the stage and mocked critics of China’s human rights record for being “hung up” about legal defenders in China. Speaking at a La Trobe University event, Keating dismissed concerns about the abuse of legal process in China as a trivial blip in the record of the “best government in the world of the last 30 years. Full stop”. Critics of China’s government in Australia, Keating said, were “hung up about the fact that some legal detainees don’t get legal representation”.

A giant of the Australian Labor Party and master of the larrikin idiom, Keating spoke to an adoring audience. Packed into the Melbourne Recital Centre, they laughed on cue and nodded in ­affirmation. To be fair, they were probably unaware of the trial under way in their sister city; but it is also unclear that knowledge would have made any difference to their responses. A lot is forgiven for the Communist Party of China for having – in one of the more widely circulated phrases of the past half century – “lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty”. One outspoken lawyer might have been dismissed as a fair price to pay.

In fact, Li was one of hundreds of legal defenders who had recently been rounded up, imprisoned and tortured on charges of subversion. This assault on the legal profession was no robust rebuff of overpaid lawyers, as Keating’s sideways swipe might have suggested, but a signal to China and the world that three decades of experimentation with the rule of law were over. The end was marked by the rise to power of Xi Jinping, son of senior party veteran and government leader Xi Zhongxun. Since assuming office, Xi has undertaken several measures to end the process of Reform and Opening (c1979-2009) that made China the most successful developing country in the world over the preceding three decades.

Li’s conviction, announced early in Xi’s second term, was one of many signs that the party was no longer tolerating restraints on its exercise of power.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/maoist-china-under-xi-can-never-be-our-friend/news-story/4761b93acf3be79591d97e08c098e453

Keating is a stooge.

The CCP is returning China and the Chinese to Maoism and isolationism.

Its recent 10+ years of  manoeuvering Chinese society and governance from that based on the rule of law to rule by law and includes, among many things, the revitalisation of state and cultural xenophobia.

It is and always will be a catastrophic mistake for any foreign people and their respective government to consider the CCP a trusted friend sharing mutual aspirations.

As with the Mafia, so with the CCP - both are unreformable organised crime gangs.

Even Mao would have agreed with that.

Apparently humans are too insane to be trusted to think for themselves....


thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2022 at 10:53am:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/us/religious-polarization-in-india-seeping-into-us-diaspora/ar-AA1311Ur?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=58952dc04e564e87964385550936dc81 "Religious polarization in India seeping into US diaspora" Warning to all "freedom" ideologues: such is the insanity of "homo sapiens" ...the greatest misnomer of all time.

But if you put those same humans into the CCP, you can trust them to do your thinking for you....

And here we have it. Licking Xi's ring and attempting to undermine basic freedoms, almost in the same sentence. Just in case anyone was uncertain where all the moronic crap is coming from.


thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 11:23am:

"It's the economy. stupid". Who gives a s**t about democratic "freedoms" when democracies preside over the most vicious entrenched inequality and poverty and disavantage. At least Xi is promoting 'common propserity ' and 'houses for living in, not investment vehicles for rich people'.

The Chinese are not sending their best:

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/102108026

Cuckoo smurfing. It's a thing.
https://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/crime-types/proceeds-crime/money-laundering

The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people???


Quote:

The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees.

:( :( :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 9:00am:

The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood

It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education.
The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty.

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
:)

athos wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe :)

What does your rant have to do with what I posted....Why would anyone defend the Chinese Communist Party by deflecting with bullshit???

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You are arguing with a bot, Phil!

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 10:03am:

You are arguing with a bot, Phil!

How can you argue against incoherant, irrelivant stupidity....Why would anyone defend Communism???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 9:12am:

athos wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:05am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe :) What does your rant have to do with what I posted....Why would anyone defend the Chinese Communist Party by deflecting with bullshit??? ::) ::) ::)

Why are you so nervous?

athos wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 11:24am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:12am: athos wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:05am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe :) What does your rant have to do with what I posted....Why would anyone defend the Chinese Communist Party by deflecting with bullshit??? ::) ::) ::) Why are you so nervous?

WTF....How can you argue against incoherant, irrelivant stupidity???

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athos wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe :)

Do you think the Chinese people are free?

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 1:00pm:

athos wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:05am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe :) Do you think the Chinese people are free?

I believe so....It thinks all Aussies are convicts and the Chinese are free....Go figure???

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Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)

In the midst of the Great Chinese Famine, when the people were literally starving to death by the millions, the CCP propaganda was so effective that the Chinese people felt sorry for the poor starving Americans. CCP propaganda has not really evolved in the 60 years since, despite the internet, television etc.

Are the Chinese people stupid enough to believe it?

freediver wrote on Mar 20^th, 2023 at 7:02am:

In the midst of the Great Chinese Famine, when the people were literally starving to death by the millions, the CCP propaganda was so effective that the Chinese people felt sorry for the poor starving Americans. CCP propaganda has not really evolved in the 60 years since, despite the internet, television etc. Are the Chinese people stupid enough to believe it?

• Stupid and fearful.

• Identification with the aggressor/Stockholm Syndrome.

• I recently covered (some of this) here 👇

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1679191367

athos wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty.

Crikey you must be a boomer aged bot! Gen X here and we couldn’t give a fat rat’s clacker about her Majesty (she’s dead now BTW - didn’t you get the bot software upgrade on that?) OR her lecherous ugly faced shyte of a son and his horse faced whore.

freediver wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 8th, 2022 at 8:17pm: freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 4:12pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 3:52pm: Either way a mad suggestion. You keep trying to defend the indefensible, eg,  the madness of "freedom of belief" and the "right" of individuals to believe whatever nonsense they want -  as in India,  regardless of the catastrophic consequences  on social cohesion. This from the guy who defends the CCP for killing 50 million Chinese people by trying to help them as a little mistake we should ignore. The British killed 100s of millions of Indians without batting an eyelid. The British practiced genocide indiscriminately and murdered Scotsmen, Irishmen, Indians, American Indians, Chinese, Burmese, Africans, Australian Aborigines, and anybody else whose death they deemed would profit the crown. https://historiesofcolour.com/THE-BRITISH-RAJ#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20the%20myth%20that,an%20estimated%201.8%20billion%20Indians. Quote: ... It has been estimated that Britain stole a total of nearly $45 trillion from India during the period 1765 to 1938. The British impoverished India through a taxation operation that equated to systematic theft. Put simply, the British exhorted high taxes in cash from the Indian population, used that tax money to pay Indians for their goods, and then exported the goods overseas and invested the profits into the British economy and a colonial army of Indian men that far surpassed India’s own defence needs. The British destabilised crop patterns by forced commercial cropping, and left Indians more prone to famines. Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while India was under the control of the British Empire. In response to the outbreak of famines, the British authorities rarely issued relief, insisting that starvation was a ‘natural’ and ‘necessary’ check for overpopulation. During the Great Famine of 1876-78 in Madras, it wasn’t until 5.5 million Indians had already died that the British authorities began to administer any relief efforts. Instead of giving charity, the British set up labour camps for the poor where Indian workers were fed food portions that were less than 50% of the size given in Nazi concentration camps. Winston Churchill infamously made the statement ‘I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion’. Churchill’s decision to send grain from Bengal to Yugoslavia to increase reserve stocks for the British Army caused the Great Bengal Famine of 1943, in which 4.3 million Indians died. Churchill declared ‘the famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits’. Ignoring the warnings of catastrophe, Churchill not only refused to divert supplies from British troops, but blocked the USA and Canada from delivering foreign aid and forbade India from using its own currency reserves to import food. In response to a report that raised concern over the rising death toll in Bengal, Churchill wrote in its margin the dark-humoured question, ‘Why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?’ ...  Just imagine outdoing all that in about 1 year by actually trying to feed people. That's what the Chinese Communist Party accomplished. No wars necessary. No theft. No tax. There wasn't even a drought. There was actually a major flood. Nothing more than a government the three stooges want us to believe is "pragmatic".

What does it have to do with you?
:)

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 1:00pm:

athos wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:05am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe :) Do you think the Chinese people are free?

"Let's not forget that Australia was established as a cruel British Gulag. In such an oppressive colonial Anglo environment, it is very difficult to teach people about the meaning of freedom"

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

Australian dissidents discuss Australian "democracy"

Here's how Australian dissident Dr. Jay mentions the "convict's mentality" that prevents his majesty's subjects from having a real sense of freedom.
:)

https://youtu.be/73oQ-LulSsk

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 20^th, 2023 at 8:08am:

athos wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:05am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. Crikey you must be a boomer aged bot! Gen X here and we couldn’t give a fat rat’s clacker about her Majesty (she’s dead now BTW - didn’t you get the bot software upgrade on that?) OR her lecherous ugly faced shyte of a son and his horse faced whore.

The difference between a Royal subject and a citizen is:
Royal Subjects are people who live under the powers of Royal authority, and therefore, are bound by duties of allegiance and obedience in exchange for some type of benefit and protection.
Citizens on the other hand are a free and self governing people, who, collectively, possess equal sovereignty.

“THE United States are a new nation, or political society, formed at first by the Declaration of Independence, out of those British subjects in America, who were thrown out of royal protection by act of parliament, passed in December, 1775. A citizen of the United States, means a member of this new nation. The principle of government being radically changed by the revolution, the political character of the people was also changed from subjects to citizens".
Unlike America you remain British (and now American) slaves.
;D
The difference is immense. Subject is derived from the Latin words, sub and jacio, and means one who is under the power of his royal master.
Citizen is an unit of a mass of free people, who, collectively, possess sovereignty.

athos wrote on Mar 20^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:08am: athos wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:05am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:00am: The Chinese do not care about their own people or the environment....History has shown that the Communists cannot be trusted even by their own people??? Quote: The 1938 Yellow River flood (Chinese: 花園口決隄事件, literally "Huayuankou embankment breach incident") was a flood created by the Nationalist Government in central China during the early stage of the Second Sino-Japanese War in an attempt to halt the rapid advance of Japanese forces. It has been called the "largest act of environmental warfare in history" and an example of scorched earth military strategy. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, and millions became refugees. :( :( :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood It is about the mentality of convicts that comes from education. The British have been training you for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty. Crikey you must be a boomer aged bot! Gen X here and we couldn’t give a fat rat’s clacker about her Majesty (she’s dead now BTW - didn’t you get the bot software upgrade on that?) OR her lecherous ugly faced shyte of a son and his horse faced whore. The difference between a Royal subject and a citizen is: Royal Subjects are people who live under the powers of Royal authority, and therefore, are bound by duties of allegiance and obedience in exchange for some type of benefit and protection. Citizens on the other hand are a free and self governing people, who, collectively, possess equal sovereignty. “THE United States are a new nation, or political society, formed at first by the Declaration of Independence, out of those British subjects in America, who were thrown out of royal protection by act of parliament, passed in December, 1775. A citizen of the United States, means a member of this new nation. The principle of government being radically changed by the revolution, the political character of the people was also changed from subjects to citizens". Unlike America you remain British (and now American) slaves. ;D The difference is immense. Subject is derived from the Latin words, sub and jacio, and means one who is under the power of his royal master. Citizen is an unit of a mass of free people, who, collectively, possess sovereignty.

Why did you post all that at me? Aside from the fact that I already knew the difference btwn a citizen and a subject...your response had SFA to do with my post.

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 11:58am:

freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:42am: Quote: 2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'. You do that every time you parrot the moronic claim that individual rights are an illusion. They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.

What do you mean by "maintained"?

The right to free speech is being attacked by extremist Jews.