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Message started by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm

Title: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:48pm
Didn't ScoMo promise millions of charging stations for vibrators as a move towards rejuvenating Australian libido infrastructure?

The posting of photos of Valkie anywhere, except in public toilets frequented by homosexuals, has been banned because images of Valkie have been proven to cause frigidity in women and homosexuality in men and women.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:10pm
Still suffering from my $48 bill for the summer quarter with full air con day and night sometimes...

I'm ready to contribute to the network... all the dozy bastards have to do is make sure - after the State government here gold-plated it for them with massive upgrades at our cost before 'selling' it to their mates - that it can carry the load.

Their current wail is that too much input could damage the infrastructure - poor widdle fellows - apparently it hasn't done so yet but it 'might' ... just their excuse for putting up their prices while lowering ours.

Nothing but a pack of thieves and liars.

Re-nationalise power, gas and roads!!!  NOW!!

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:51pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:10pm:
Still suffering from my $48 bill for the summer quarter with full air con day and night sometimes...

I'm ready to contribute to the network... all the dozy bastards have to do is make sure - after the State government here gold-plated it for them with massive upgrades at our cost before 'selling' it to their mates - that it can carry the load.

Their current wail is that too much input could damage the infrastructure - poor widdle fellows - apparently it hasn't done so yet but it 'might' ... just their excuse for putting up their prices while lowering ours.

Nothing but a pack of thieves and liars.

Re-nationalise power, gas and roads!!!  NOW!!


The government couldn't afford to buy it back because they already spent the proceeds.

Would you contribute to a fund to buy back electricity infrastructure?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:46pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Didn't ScoMo promise millions of charging stations for vibrators as a move towards rejuvenating Australian libido infrastructure?

The posting of photos of Valkie anywhere, except in public toilets frequented by homosexuals, has been banned because images of Valkie have been proven to cause frigidity in women and homosexuality in men and women.


Yes, but he's a fibber. Even Macron said I don't think, I know.

Valkie will be voting for Pauline as usual. She should try Scomo's vibrator plan. She's not adverse to making promises about hot throbbing cock. I'd say Valkie would go wild.

You?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:48pm
Unfortunately this govt. seems to be uninclined to spend money on infrastructure. They'd prefer we get desperate and then pay through the nose to big business instead.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:50pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:10pm:
Still suffering from my $48 bill for the summer quarter with full air con day and night sometimes...

I'm ready to contribute to the network... all the dozy bastards have to do is make sure - after the State government here gold-plated it for them with massive upgrades at our cost before 'selling' it to their mates - that it can carry the load.

Their current wail is that too much input could damage the infrastructure - poor widdle fellows - apparently it hasn't done so yet but it 'might' ... just their excuse for putting up their prices while lowering ours.

Nothing but a pack of thieves and liars.

Re-nationalise power, gas and roads!!!  NOW!!


Stop complaining. This is a thread for visionaries. How about painting Australia's rooftops white? Or a national urban tree-planting scheme. Turn our cities into forests. Absorb heat and attract the birds.

Think big.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:53pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:48pm:
Unfortunately this govt. seems to be uninclined to spend money on infrastructure. They'd prefer we get desperate and then pay through the nose to big business instead.


Then they'll be gone. We the voters are ready for it. White recommended a national electric car industry - why not?

Sure, Tesla are setting up in China, but we could get the capital for smaller plants, specially-designed vehicles.

Put it down.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:03pm
While we're on China, we need to fix the relationship. Let's get Xi over, schmooze him at Kirribilli House like Trump did in Mar a Lago.

Sorry about AUKUS, Mr Xi, but you know how it goes. Talk soft, big stick, all that. Try our delish red wine - it's lucky, no? Look at all our Chows, we're just like you. Australia is a middle-power, half European, half Asian. Half in the past, half in the future. We're 60,000 years old for Christ's sake. This is the Asian century, we know that. We want you on board. Let's have the best century yet.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Valkie on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:14pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:48pm:
Unfortunately this govt. seems to be uninclined to spend money on infrastructure. They'd prefer we get desperate and then pay through the nose to big business instead.


And themselves, dont forget themselves.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:15pm
Public housing - a consistent poller. A ten percent stock for community housing clause  for all new high-rise DAs.

Mix the public with the private and do away with houso slums. Join up with NDIS providers and get disabled people into good, urban housing. Help the homeless.

The voters want it, why aren't we doing it? Put it down.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:24pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:48pm:
Unfortunately this govt. seems to be uninclined to spend money on infrastructure. They'd prefer we get desperate and then pay through the nose to big business instead.


And themselves, dont forget themselves.


Well no more. You like rural communities - how about a regional resettlement scheme? Give those on student visas a chance to move onto bridging visas by moving to work in small towns and regional cities.

You'd like better local health services, no? Here's your chance. Support a rural renewal scheme. We'll turn the tide and get new, young Australians back to the regions.

Think big. Stop moaning. Put it down.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 9th, 2022 at 6:41pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:46pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Didn't ScoMo promise millions of charging stations for vibrators as a move towards rejuvenating Australian libido infrastructure?

The posting of photos of Valkie anywhere, except in public toilets frequented by homosexuals, has been banned because images of Valkie have been proven to cause frigidity in women and homosexuality in men and women.


Yes, but he's a fibber. Even Macron said I don't think, I know.

Valkie will be voting for Pauline as usual. She should try Scomo's vibrator plan. She's not adverse to making promises about hot throbbing cock. I'd say Valkie would go wild.

You?


Valkie is certainly a 'prime' suspect as a 'beefcake' fancier.

I suspect Valkie's favorite song is "I'm just wild about Harry".

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Public housing - a consistent poller. A ten percent stock for community housing clause  for all new high-rise DAs.

Mix the public with the private and do away with houso slums. Join up with NDIS providers and get disabled people into good, urban housing. Help the homeless.

The voters want it, why aren't we doing it? Put it down.



I find this proposal, based on Singapore's 'Housing Development Board'  interesting. It could work.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-06/could-australia-learn-from-singapore-to-make-housing-affordable/100801082

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:36pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:10pm:
Still suffering from my $48 bill for the summer quarter with full air con day and night sometimes...

I'm ready to contribute to the network... all the dozy bastards have to do is make sure - after the State government here gold-plated it for them with massive upgrades at our cost before 'selling' it to their mates - that it can carry the load.

Their current wail is that too much input could damage the infrastructure - poor widdle fellows - apparently it hasn't done so yet but it 'might' ... just their excuse for putting up their prices while lowering ours.

Nothing but a pack of thieves and liars.

Re-nationalise power, gas and roads!!!  NOW!!


The government couldn't afford to buy it back because they already spent the proceeds.

Would you contribute to a fund to buy back electricity infrastructure?


Do a Fidel Castro and take it back at no cost.... we'd be banned from exporting sugar to the United States for fifty years or more.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:38pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:48pm:
Unfortunately this govt. seems to be uninclined to spend money on infrastructure. They'd prefer we get desperate and then pay through the nose to big business instead.


And themselves, dont forget themselves.


Well no more. You like rural communities - how about a regional resettlement scheme? Give those on student visas a chance to move onto bridging visas by moving to work in small towns and regional cities.

You'd like better local health services, no? Here's your chance. Support a rural renewal scheme. We'll turn the tide and get new, young Australians back to the regions.

Think big. Stop moaning. Put it down.


Put all the rag-heads and moaning Abos out there to do some real work..... building roads and rails and mighty dams etc instead of damning everything Australian .... the scheme to reunite Lake Eyre and the sea through South Australia requires a little tunnel work - the criminal and terrorist elements among them have the honour of breaking the last few feet in the tunnels...



Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:42pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Public housing - a consistent poller. A ten percent stock for community housing clause  for all new high-rise DAs.

Mix the public with the private and do away with houso slums. Join up with NDIS providers and get disabled people into good, urban housing. Help the homeless.

The voters want it, why aren't we doing it? Put it down.


"G'day Mr Morrison - 'ow ya goin', bloke?  Hey - we're your brand new neighbours - eh, mate, ya godda smoke? We come fo' yah pardy - got some booze and some ganja?"



Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:57pm
This is why private industry doesn't do infrastructure projects and why infrastructure projects are not commercially viable for investors:

"After 56 years, the people of NSW finally paid off the cost of building the Sydney Harbour Bridge in 1988. However, the toll was still be levied to pay for the under-construction Sydney Harbour Tunnel. Fast forward 30 years and the toll revenue is generally used for road projects across NSW.Jun 25, 2018"

The Snowy Mountains scheme is postulated to have a 'real' rate of return of 1.2% which would not qualify it as a commercial private industry project.

"Later, three major studies of economic doubt emerged (i) by Rose (ii) by Davidson using a critical discount rate of 7% (iii) by McColl. The solution to these doubts, after the experience of 50 years of the Snowy Scheme, is offered. There are two major factors. First, the installations show a longer life than nominally accepted, much longer than the 70 years set for repayment. Second, the art of cost–benefit analysis did not at the time incorporate inflation, so the critics were unable to take it into account. The inflation rate in 1949–1999, not large but monotonically increasing, is 5.8%. Thus Davidson's 7%, which is also the rate of Snowy repayment to government, becomes a “real” rate of 1.2%. Using these concepts, the Snowy becomes, ex-post, a brilliant investment."

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 9th, 2022 at 11:36pm
So the whole point is whether or not some asshole can make a profit?

Thanks for your enlightening comment LTYC.

Governments are not in business and nor should business be in government controlling it - government is in the business of providing infrastructure that meets the national needs and develops a solid future for all - not those of business - and government does not need to make a profit from these ventures - it only needs to follow a plan to break even while offering substantive benefits to the community/populace/nation.

I think that ties it all up pretty well, if I do say so myself.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:32am

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Public housing - a consistent poller. A ten percent stock for community housing clause  for all new high-rise DAs.

Mix the public with the private and do away with houso slums. Join up with NDIS providers and get disabled people into good, urban housing. Help the homeless.

The voters want it, why aren't we doing it? Put it down.



I find this proposal, based on Singapore's 'Housing Development Board'  interesting. It could work.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-06/could-australia-learn-from-singapore-to-make-housing-affordable/100801082


Australia, a nation of landlords thanks to negative gearing, a property bubble and a lack of decent investment options. Good idea, JS, let's look to Singapore, a nation of genuine home-owners. Put it down.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:39am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 4:48pm:
Unfortunately this govt. seems to be uninclined to spend money on infrastructure. They'd prefer we get desperate and then pay through the nose to big business instead.


And themselves, dont forget themselves.


Well no more. You like rural communities - how about a regional resettlement scheme? Give those on student visas a chance to move onto bridging visas by moving to work in small towns and regional cities.

You'd like better local health services, no? Here's your chance. Support a rural renewal scheme. We'll turn the tide and get new, young Australians back to the regions.

Think big. Stop moaning. Put it down.


Put all the rag-heads and moaning Abos out there to do some real work..... building roads and rails and mighty dams etc instead of damning everything Australian .... the scheme to reunite Lake Eyre and the sea through South Australia requires a little tunnel work - the criminal and terrorist elements among them have the honour of breaking the last few feet in the tunnels...



No convict labour or chain gangs. Australia, a pro-active nation of organised labour, developed thanks to unions, a country where we all get to choose where we put our labour, unlike banana republics and low-wage serfdoms.

It's already down. Any political leader who wants another Workchoices will get his legs chopped off. Think big. Include the workers, don't fuck with us.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:59am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:57pm:
This is why private industry doesn't do infrastructure projects and why infrastructure projects are not commercially viable for investors:

"After 56 years, the people of NSW finally paid off the cost of building the Sydney Harbour Bridge in 1988. However, the toll was still be levied to pay for the under-construction Sydney Harbour Tunnel. Fast forward 30 years and the toll revenue is generally used for road projects across NSW.Jun 25, 2018"

The Snowy Mountains scheme is postulated to have a 'real' rate of return of 1.2% which would not qualify it as a commercial private industry project.

"Later, three major studies of economic doubt emerged (i) by Rose (ii) by Davidson using a critical discount rate of 7% (iii) by McColl. The solution to these doubts, after the experience of 50 years of the Snowy Scheme, is offered. There are two major factors. First, the installations show a longer life than nominally accepted, much longer than the 70 years set for repayment. Second, the art of cost–benefit analysis did not at the time incorporate inflation, so the critics were unable to take it into account. The inflation rate in 1949–1999, not large but monotonically increasing, is 5.8%. Thus Davidson's 7%, which is also the rate of Snowy repayment to government, becomes a “real” rate of 1.2%. Using these concepts, the Snowy becomes, ex-post, a brilliant investment."


That depends. TNT invested in a crappy monorail that slid around the Sydney CBD, empty most of the time. God knows how they cashed in on that.

The Sydney airport line charges $18 to go 13 km, it's money for jam.

The Sydney Opera House stages concerts at $200 to $300 a ticket. Massively subsidised, it never even breaks even. And yet, it gave Australia a soul. Who could imagine Sydney without it? Who could imagine the world without it?

Australia, a nation where builders labourers have opinions about architecture, and managed to conserve much of Sydney's heritage. Think big.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 10th, 2022 at 6:38am

Karnal wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:59am:
That depends. TNT invested in a crappy monorail that slid around the Sydney CBD, empty most of the time. God knows how they cashed in on that.

The Sydney airport line charges $18 to go 13 km, it's money for jam.

The Sydney Opera House stages concerts at $200 to $300 a ticket. Massively subsidised, it never even breaks even. And yet, it gave Australia a soul. Who could imagine Sydney without it? Who could imagine the world without it?

Australia, a nation where builders labourers have opinions about architecture, and managed to conserve much of Sydney's heritage. Think big.


I liked the monorail.

Airport line - we build it - they own it and rip us off.. this is progress.

Can't put a price on culture...

Builders labourers have as much sense and taste as anyone else - equality, innit?  I'm happy to see a lot of excellent historical architecture preserved instead of faceless monoliths built by third world standards like Homebush.

They're only scum if they are blue collar unionists - don't criticise the angels in nursing, firies and police etc. etc.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Dnarever on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:03am

Quote:
Australian infrastructure


Do we have that?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:10am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:03am:

Quote:
Australian infrastructure


Do we have that?


Used to . . . .  Keating was the start of the sell-off and the liberals ramped it up

Spot

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mr Walker on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:07pm
They could start by filling in a few potholes and grading the corrugations out of some roads for them regional folk.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:10pm

Johnnie wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
They could start by filling in a few potholes and grading the corrugations out of some roads for them regional folk.


How will governments profit from that?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by John Smith on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:11pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:32am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Public housing - a consistent poller. A ten percent stock for community housing clause  for all new high-rise DAs.

Mix the public with the private and do away with houso slums. Join up with NDIS providers and get disabled people into good, urban housing. Help the homeless.

The voters want it, why aren't we doing it? Put it down.



I find this proposal, based on Singapore's 'Housing Development Board'  interesting. It could work.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-06/could-australia-learn-from-singapore-to-make-housing-affordable/100801082


Australia, a nation of landlords thanks to negative gearing, a property bubble and a lack of decent investment options. Good idea, JS, let's look to Singapore, a nation of genuine home-owners. Put it down.



There is nothing stopping wanna be landlords from buying property ... they just can't buy property set aside for first home owners.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mr Walker on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:19pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
They could start by filling in a few potholes and grading the corrugations out of some roads for them regional folk.


How will governments profit from that?

People will be able to drive to work without their wheels falling off causing days of downtime at times, you can't pay tax if you are not at work.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Valkie on Feb 10th, 2022 at 5:59pm
The Australian grubberment is chock full of failures who could not organise a screw in a brothel.
It comprises mostly of people who have no chance of ever being half way capable in private industry and to who hard works are foreign words.

Everything that goes through any grubberment departments is made overly complex and overly beauocratic to the point of total structural failure.

Combined with the use of "consultants" which is to say other ex grubberment deadbeats playing games for cash.
And the significant propensity for internal corruption.
We have a series of non-functional, corrupt, incompetent deadbeats who suck money in and put very little back into infrastructure.

In any civilized country, they would build a huge gaol to house the entire bunch of corrupt, criminal and incompetent morons for life.
Personally I prefer the China option, but we would need a lot more bullets.



Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:04pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:32am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Public housing - a consistent poller. A ten percent stock for community housing clause  for all new high-rise DAs.

Mix the public with the private and do away with houso slums. Join up with NDIS providers and get disabled people into good, urban housing. Help the homeless.

The voters want it, why aren't we doing it? Put it down.



I find this proposal, based on Singapore's 'Housing Development Board'  interesting. It could work.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-06/could-australia-learn-from-singapore-to-make-housing-affordable/100801082


Australia, a nation of landlords thanks to negative gearing, a property bubble and a lack of decent investment options. Good idea, JS, let's look to Singapore, a nation of genuine home-owners. Put it down.



There is nothing stopping wanna be landlords from buying property ... they just can't buy property set aside for first home owners.


Good point, JS. Prioritize home ownership for first home owners. Reform taxes and work with the states to achieve this. Policy, innit. Put it down.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:07pm

Johnnie wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
They could start by filling in a few potholes and grading the corrugations out of some roads for them regional folk.


Right you are, Mr Walker. They're currently putting down light rail, widening footpaths, building cycleways and yes, fixing pot holes all over Sydney. Why can't we do the same where the yokels live?

Policy supported, put down.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:11pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
The Australian grubberment is chock full of failures who could not organise a screw in a brothel.
It comprises mostly of people who have no chance of ever being half way capable in private industry and to who hard works are foreign words.

Everything that goes through any grubberment departments is made overly complex and overly beauocratic to the point of total structural failure.

Combined with the use of "consultants" which is to say other ex grubberment deadbeats playing games for cash.
And the significant propensity for internal corruption.
We have a series of non-functional, corrupt, incompetent deadbeats who suck money in and put very little back into infrastructure.

In any civilized country, they would build a huge gaol to house the entire bunch of corrupt, criminal and incompetent morons for life.
Personally I prefer the China option, but we would need a lot more bullets.


No ideas, just a big long moan. Nothing to put down here.

We hear you, Matty. We sympathise, you poor old thing. Now take our how-to-vote card and vote accordingly, there's a good chap.


Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:03am:

Quote:
Australian infrastructure


Do we have that?


Ever been to India?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mr Walker on Feb 10th, 2022 at 8:07pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:07pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
They could start by filling in a few potholes and grading the corrugations out of some roads for them regional folk.


Right you are, Mr Walker. They're currently putting down light rail, widening footpaths, building cycleways and yes, fixing pot holes all over Sydney. Why can't we do the same where the yokels live?

Policy supported, put down.

Exactly, there is only enough money to go around i suppose.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:08pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.


Superior post-colonial discourse, comrade.

Racial cleansing will bring world peace, no? White pride, innit. Colonialism ended far too soon.

How's Boğaziçi Üniversitesi going, Mistie? Are you missing your superior white culture yet?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:34pm
Good propaganda, Comrade.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:42pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.


'Whites' always have questions. They never have answers.

That is why 'Whites' are gravitating to the bottom of the social order. However, their future is brighter at the bottom. The only direction is up.

The first infrastructure need of Australians is an internet service by fiber-optic cable as reliable, cheap, and fast as those in Asia, not the bullshit service currently provided.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 13th, 2022 at 8:29pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:42pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.


'Whites' always have questions. They never have answers.

That is why 'Whites' are gravitating to the bottom of the social order. However, their future is brighter at the bottom. The only direction is up.

The first infrastructure need of Australians is an internet service by fiber-optic cable as reliable, cheap, and fast as those in Asia, not the bullshit service currently provided.


Good propaganda, Comrade. Once we do away with this ghastly white culture, we can go back to living safely in straw huts and hunt with sticks. This is progress.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by JaSin. on Feb 13th, 2022 at 8:40pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:42pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.


'Whites' always have questions. They never have answers.

That is why 'Whites' are gravitating to the bottom of the social order. However, their future is brighter at the bottom. The only direction is up.

The first infrastructure need of Australians is an internet service by fiber-optic cable as reliable, cheap, and fast as those in Asia, not the bullshit service currently provided.


Don't worry LTYCbaby.
There are 8 Races and 8 'habitable' Regions on this planet with each Region having a representation of each of the 8 Races.

So with that said, you have 7 other Black Clones of yourself LTYCbaby - but you're one of the Beta versions here in Australia. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 13th, 2022 at 9:37pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:42pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.


'Whites' always have questions. They never have answers.

That is why 'Whites' are gravitating to the bottom of the social order. However, their future is brighter at the bottom. The only direction is up.

The first infrastructure need of Australians is an internet service by fiber-optic cable as reliable, cheap, and fast as those in Asia, not the bullshit service currently provided.


OOOH???  I'm a White - I have answers - get your nose outta my face...

What exactly answers do Blacks and Sallows have?  Boonga-loonga around the campfire and holy jihad on infidels?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 13th, 2022 at 9:41pm
Whites have been progressively bashed to the bottom of the social order by their own kind, the kind that enter politics and pass legislations that impose upon them and nobody else. On top of that there has always been here the old 'Ned Kelly' syndrome amongst the law enforcers etc here - gotta keep those bastards down or they will revolt at Vinegar Hill..... being of convict stock they're all criminals anyway so why not pharken treat them that way?

Talk about time for a revolution..... my half-Chinese great grandmother would turn over in her grave at what your kind have done to her progeny....

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 13th, 2022 at 9:44pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 9:08pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
The political climate's right for a New Deal, leftards. Any party offering a nation-building infrastructure plan could rake it in right now.

A national solar power scheme. Turn the rooftops of the East Coast into a giant solar power generator and put in a cable to South East Asia. We could power KL, Singapore and Jakarta, not to mention ourselves. Build batteries instead of substations, no worries.

Next, a high-speed rail line from Brisbane to Melbourne. City to city in 6 hours by 2034. If Japan and China can do this, so can we. Put it down.

Thoughts?


Infrastructure? The culture war is the most important issue. Confronting the white question should be front and centre. This is progress.


Superior post-colonial discourse, comrade.

Racial cleansing will bring world peace, no? White pride, innit. Colonialism ended far too soon.

How's Boğaziçi Üniversitesi going, Mistie? Are you missing your superior white culture yet?



I suppose Black pride, gay pride and all the other prides don't get a mention here?

I don't recall any White people preaching to burn the whole thing down....

You there, Mustbeya - are you one of them White Supremacist Outside Agitators in disguse.. pretending to be a Darkie and stirring the pot so the White Fascists will rise up and be justified in doing so?

Race Wars.. always was between the Lebs and the Slopes... then the Mussos and the Indios...  you see somehting common here?  One very common denominator of people who consider themselves Supreme over everyone else?  Laughable, I know... but that's their view, not mine.

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 14th, 2022 at 12:30pm
The first infrastructure need for Australia is a full and public review of our immigration policy - whatever that is... people are an infrastructure component and unless we are importing the right types or educating our own up first to the right types, nothing much will happen.

"Eye-gor.. take a seat.... now I promise I won't be angry.... that wasn't the professor's brain you brought me, was it?"

"Um - no..."

"Who's.. brain... is it?"

"Polly somebody... Polly Tician...  the sign said it had never been used..."

"You mean to tell me I put a useless... unused... brain into a seven foot, 500 pound gorilla and turned it loose on the public to control billions of dollars?"

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by John Smith on Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:49pm
How does a topic on infrastructure turn into another rant from crappler about his victim hood status?

Title: Re: Australian infrastructure
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 14th, 2022 at 11:42pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
How does a topic on infrastructure turn into another rant from crappler about his victim hood status?


How does a comment on Mustbeya Khunt's  whine about white pride compared to pride in other groups relate in you tiny mind to any rant about 'victimhood' status?  Black Pride, Gay Pride, Musso Pride, WOP Pride, Feminist Pride ... all same-same, no?

THOSE are the groups constantly whining about being oppressed and being victims and causing such a ruckus all the time about how hard done they are here in Australia, with all its benefits.

For myself, as a member of the Ruling Elite Class, no such concept exists, Wogboy.  Get back in your kennel.

The reality is that White Men have been subjected to an undeclared war for forty years now....some are turning radical.... others are waking up and seeking answers..... commenting on reality isn't a whine about victimhood... once the boys wake up, the rest will be the victims, let me assure you, spouse of a slum lord's attack dog.... turn up that air con, boy, and cool off.

Yer attack dog missus would have done better saying they couldn't get anyone on Chrissie Eve rather than coming the tyrant... and saying the thing, part of the advertised rental deal, would be fixed as soon as possible.  Arrogantly throwing it back at the renter was abuse, pure and simple, and you both need to grow up and learn to treat others with respect and courtesy.  I hope it comes back to bite her. Lesson needed.

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