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Message started by Gordon on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 11:08am

Title: Biden beating the drums
Post by Gordon on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 11:08am
By Chris Hedges

When all else fails, when you are clueless about how to halt a 7.5% inflation rate, when your Build Back Better bill is gutted, when you renege on your promise to raise the minimum wage or forgive student debt, when you can’t halt the Republican suppression of voting rights, when you have no idea how to handle the pandemic which has claimed 900,000 lives – 16% of the world’s total deaths although we are less than 5% of the world’s population

Warmongering by the Democrats always comes wrapped in the mantle of democracy, freedom and human rights, making Democrats the more effective salespeople for war.



https://www.salon.com/2022/02/15/democrats-wont-oppose-the-state-are-they-the-lesser-evil--or-the-more-effective-one/

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Gordon on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 11:09am
Hedges was an early critic of the Iraq War. In May 2003, he delivered a commencement address at Rockford College in Rockford, Illinois, saying: "We are embarking on an occupation that, if history is any guide, will be as damaging to our souls as it will be to our prestige and power and security."[77] His speech was received with boos, "two students approached the stage to push [him] off the podium" (as he told an interviewer),[78] and his microphone was shut off three minutes after he began speaking.[79] Hedges had to end the commencement speech short because of the various student disruptions.[80] The New York Times, his employer, criticized his statements and issued him a formal reprimand for "public remarks that could undermine public trust in the paper's impartiality".[54]

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm
A bunch of true statements used to wrap a really stupid claim.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Frank on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 1:27pm
Come on, man, you know the deal! Joe will sort it.




Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 1:56pm
Stock markets are down:


https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/21/investing/global-stocks-ukraine-russia/index.html



Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 (N225) fell 2% in morning trading. Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index (HSI) dropped 2.2%, while Korea's Kospi (KOSPI) lost 1.4%. China's Shanghai Composite (SHCOMP) and Australia's S&P/ASX 200 were both down more than 1%.
The plunge in Asia was preceded by a similar drop for US stock futures earlier on Monday evening local time.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by JaSin. on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:19pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.


Yet the Republicans went into the 2020 election with not a single policy and still have nothing.

The closest the republicans have come to a policy involve Dr Seuss, Mr Potato Head or the green smarties shoes.

Jar Jar - It has to stop hurting so much if you stop shooting yourself in the foot.





Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:32pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.


Should have asked just what the Republicans have to offer - Undermining US democracy their constitution and more insurrection looks to be about it.

The Republicans are looking to challenge or throw out of the party anyone left who is a genuine republican and not a disciple of Trump and his fascist cult.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Gordon on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.


Should have asked just what the Republicans have to offer - Undermining US democracy their constitution and more insurrection looks to be about it.

The Republicans are looking to challenge or throw out of the party anyone left who is a genuine republican and not a disciple of Trump and his cult.


Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.

Republicans called Obama a Kenyan.
Trump called Hillary a crook (she probably is)
Hillary called Trump a Russian
Now the USA has equal worst Pres and WORST Vice.

With a bit of luck, neither of the above 4 run in the next election.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:14pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.


Should have asked just what the Republicans have to offer - Undermining US democracy their constitution and more insurrection looks to be about it.

The Republicans are looking to challenge or throw out of the party anyone left who is a genuine republican and not a disciple of Trump and his cult.


Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.

Republicans called Obama a Kenyan.
Trump called Hillary a crook (she probably is)
Hillary called Trump a Russian
Now the USA has equal worst Pres and WORST Vice.

With a bit of luck, neither of the above 4 run in the next election.



Quote:
Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.


In normal circumstances I would partially agree but in this case nobody in the Democrats is looking at insurrection as a preferred solution to people voting, they are not Undermining democracy in any one of a number of ways including preventing people from voting, They are not introducing legislation to allow states to take election counting and result decisions away from independent election officials and placing the decisions with biased political bodies.

No - While neither are too good they are far from the same.




Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:30pm
The war in Ukraine - my opinion:

Some Russian tanks have already rolled across the border.
I just wonder if the Ukrainians will even fire at the tanks or will it be a bloodless takeover?
I think it will be like the phoney war after Hitler invaded Poland.
Nothing much happened except in Poland for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War

The EU is not united enough to stop Putin and he counts on that –
the weakness of Europe.
Europe is full of pacifists and homosexuals – Putin is not scared of them.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Gordon on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:35pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:14pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.


Should have asked just what the Republicans have to offer - Undermining US democracy their constitution and more insurrection looks to be about it.

The Republicans are looking to challenge or throw out of the party anyone left who is a genuine republican and not a disciple of Trump and his cult.


Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.

Republicans called Obama a Kenyan.
Trump called Hillary a crook (she probably is)
Hillary called Trump a Russian
Now the USA has equal worst Pres and WORST Vice.

With a bit of luck, neither of the above 4 run in the next election.



Quote:
Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.


In normal circumstances I would partially agree but in this case nobody in the Democrats is looking at insurrection as a preferred solution to people voting, they are not Undermining democracy in any one of a number of ways including preventing people from voting, They are not introducing legislation to allow states to take election counting and result decisions away from independent election officials and placing the decisions with biased political bodies.

No - While neither are too good they are far from the same.


Every time I hear blacks asked about voter ID, they say, do you think us Nword ers are too stupid to get a driver's license?
Voter ID is more about Dems getting illegals to vote.

Insurrection, get a little milk from the cow, but give it a rest.
I also reckon there at some level there were agents provocateurs involved.
Both sides of politics have done that before.



Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Ayn Marx on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 8:07pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 11:08am:
Warmongering by the Democrats always comes wrapped in the mantle of democracy, freedom and human rights, making Democrats the more effective salespeople for war.[/b]

And what does Putin’s war mongering come wrapped in other than deluded patriotism?
Mindless groupthink on both sides will soon remove our species from the planet..
The human race is insane. 


A deeper understanding of our problem can be gained from a careful reading of Arthur Koestler’s “The Ghost in The Machine” but I doubt theres time to get through all of it before -      o o o.  o.   o.    o.     o.      o.        o

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by athos on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 9:34pm
Biden plays with his teddy bears.
;D

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 9:49pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:14pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:
Democrats are a spent force and have nothing to offer except a stupid old geezer and a fake Media collaboration.

USA needs a 'new' Party to challenge the more stable Republicans.


Should have asked just what the Republicans have to offer - Undermining US democracy their constitution and more insurrection looks to be about it.

The Republicans are looking to challenge or throw out of the party anyone left who is a genuine republican and not a disciple of Trump and his cult.


Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.

Republicans called Obama a Kenyan.
Trump called Hillary a crook (she probably is)
Hillary called Trump a Russian
Now the USA has equal worst Pres and WORST Vice.

With a bit of luck, neither of the above 4 run in the next election.



Quote:
Stop taking sides. They're both as bad as each other.


In normal circumstances I would partially agree but in this case nobody in the Democrats is looking at insurrection as a preferred solution to people voting, they are not Undermining democracy in any one of a number of ways including preventing people from voting, They are not introducing legislation to allow states to take election counting and result decisions away from independent election officials and placing the decisions with biased political bodies.

No - While neither are too good they are far from the same.


Every time I hear blacks asked about voter ID, they say, do you think us Nword ers are too stupid to get a driver's license?
Voter ID is more about Dems getting illegals to vote.

Insurrection, get a little milk from the cow, but give it a rest.
I also reckon there at some level there were agents provocateurs involved.
Both sides of politics have done that before.


You didn't hear about all the registrations for mail voting that were rejected several times because the voter had to user the same license number they originally used to register to vote. Silly buggers thought they could use their current drivers license and not the one they had in 1942.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Bobby. on Feb 23rd, 2022 at 3:12pm
This is strange - what invasion?
Some sites say that Russia has invaded and some say they haven't.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60480734

There has as yet been no evidence of Russian troops crossing the border
into the rebel-held areas of east Ukraine
,

despite Mr Putin's order to conduct what he calls peacekeeping functions.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Rudenko told the AFP news agency that Russia was not sending troops in "for now".

"No one is planning to send anything anywhere. If there is a threat, then we will provide assistance in accordance with the ratified treaties," he said.



Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 23rd, 2022 at 9:16pm

Quote:
Biden beating the drums


I see him more as a harmonica sort of guy.

I think Trump plays the Tuba and accordion.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 24th, 2022 at 12:16am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Quote:
Biden beating the drums


I see him more as a harmonica sort of guy.

I think Trump plays the Tuba and accordion.


Good God, you're right. Trump just called Putin a genius and praised him for keeping the peace in the Ukraine. Trump wants Putin to come over to the US to protect the southern border.

This is no joke, he said this in all sincerity. He even repeated himself for clarity. Trump just praised Putin for invading a sovereign European country.

Now watch all the sychophants to say Trump's just misunderstood.

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Dnarever on Feb 24th, 2022 at 1:22am

Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2022 at 12:16am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Quote:
Biden beating the drums


I see him more as a harmonica sort of guy.

I think Trump plays the Tuba and accordion.


Good God, you're right. Trump just called Putin a genius and praised him for keeping the peace in the Ukraine. Trump wants Putin to come over to the US to protect the southern border.

This is no joke, he said this in all sincerity. He even repeated himself for clarity. Trump just praised Putin for invading a sovereign European country.

Now watch all the sychophants to say Trump's just misunderstood.


Yes he does struggle with English, maybe a Russian translator or someone to caption

Title: Re: Biden beating the drums
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2022 at 6:21am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/22/trump-reacts-putins-invasion-ukraine-exactly-youd-expect/


Trump,
“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius,’ ” Trump continued. “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. So, Putin is now saying, ‘It’s independent,’ a large section of Ukraine. I said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force … We could use that on our southern border.”

He continued to praise Putin a bit later.

“Here’s a guy that says, you know, ‘I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent’ — he used the word ‘independent’ — ‘and we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace,’ ” Trump said. “You gotta say that’s pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response.”

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