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Message started by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am

Title: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59am
So Biden Inc have basically tried to do what Trump did 'successfully' when dealing with Kim - ask China.

Biden has 'nothing' so much, he's now replicating everything Trump did.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:00am

Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59am:
So Biden Inc have basically tried to do what Trump did 'successfully' when dealing with Kim - ask China.

Biden has 'nothing' so much, he's now replicating everything Trump did.  ;D ;D ;D

What would you do?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:48am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:00am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59am:
So Biden Inc have basically tried to do what Trump did 'successfully' when dealing with Kim - ask China.

Biden has 'nothing' so much, he's now replicating everything Trump did.  ;D ;D ;D

What would you do?

::) Now you're being repetitiously boring. You obviously have nothing 'new' to offer.  ::)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:21am
Answer the question, JaSin!  What would you have done?  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:42am

Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:00am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59am:
So Biden Inc have basically tried to do what Trump did 'successfully' when dealing with Kim - ask China.

Biden has 'nothing' so much, he's now replicating everything Trump did.  ;D ;D ;D

What would you do?

::) Now you're being repetitiously boring. You obviously have nothing 'new' to offer.  ::)

So you have no answer. Is that a feature of a water spirit?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:21am:
Answer the question, JaSin!  What would you have done?  ::) ::)


If I was Biden - admit that I'm copying Trump's style because I'm an institutionalised idiot who can't think for myself.

If I was America - I would bring back Trump in the name of originality.

Don't mind me Brian - I've bored with the Sock Peccary, its true, he deserves 'nothing'.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:19pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:21am:
Answer the question, JaSin!  What would you have done?  ::) ::)


If I was Biden - admit that I'm copying Trump's style because I'm an institutionalised idiot who can't think for myself.

If I was America - I would bring back Trump in the name of originality.

Don't mind me Brian - I've bored with the Sock Peccary, its true, he deserves 'nothing'.

So, you'd do nothing past a schizophrenic episode.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:48pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.

Trump would not even have sent aid or imposed sanctions. Even McConnell and Graham in the US Senate are distancing themselves from him.

Even the American south, easily home to the most stupid people in the English-speaking world, his support has plummeted.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:53pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.

I'm even laughing at Peccary's sock Mr Ecky E-being-ezy
that no-one's much paying attention to him anymore. I'm surely not. Peckerhead will have to make another schizi sock. Typical lefty Biden supporter. ::)
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=shamen+ebeneezer+good&&view=detail&mid=2C3EE904E8667622F1C32C3EE904E8667622F1C3&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dshamen%2Bebeneezer%2Bgood%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:55pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.

I'm even laughing at Peccary's sock Mr Ecky E-being-ezy
that no-one's much paying attention to him anymore. I'm surely not. Peckerhead will have to make another schizi sock. Typical lefty Biden supporter. ::)
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=shamen+ebeneezer+good&&view=detail&mid=2C3EE904E8667622F1C32C3EE904E8667622F1C3&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dshamen%2Bebeneezer%2Bgood%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

Are you a diagnosed schizophrenic?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:57pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.

Trump would not even have sent aid or imposed sanctions. Even McConnell and Graham in the US Senate are distancing themselves from him.

Even the American south, easily home to the most stupid people in the English-speaking world, his support has plummeted.


See if you can figure this out.

There's a reason why it DIDN'T happen under Trump, and that reason is not a compliment to Trump.

There is also a reason why it DID happen under Biden, and that reason is not complimentary to Biden.




Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:58pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.

Trump would not even have sent aid or imposed sanctions. Even McConnell and Graham in the US Senate are distancing themselves from him.

Even the American south, easily home to the most stupid people in the English-speaking world, his support has plummeted.


See if you can figure this out.

There's a reason why it DIDN'T happen under Trump, and that reason is not a compliment to Trump.

There is also a reason why it DID happen under Biden, and that reason is not complimentary to Biden.

;D 8-)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:08pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:57pm:
See if you can figure this out.

There's a reason why it DIDN'T happen under Trump, and that reason is not a compliment to Trump.

There is also a reason why it DID happen under Biden, and that reason is not complimentary to Biden.

War tends to make heroes out of US presidents and galvanises the country around the president.

Trump gave the impression of an American receding interest in NATO and Putin has taken a punt on that being true under a US president he presumed would not act.

Trump set the conditions for Putin's impression that the US would not have the resolve to resist his move into Ukraine.

Putin has been proved wrong.

Lincoln had the same problem as the south saw him as weak and dithering.

The south was proved wrong.

Notwithstanding the possibility that Trump and Putin had an arrangement that he would go in for Trump's political benefit. If true, this has proved to be a mistake.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


Biden begged China.

Pathetic!

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


Biden begged China.

Pathetic!

Begged?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:57pm:
See if you can figure this out.

There's a reason why it DIDN'T happen under Trump, and that reason is not a compliment to Trump.

There is also a reason why it DID happen under Biden, and that reason is not complimentary to Biden.

War tends to make heroes out of US presidents and galvanises the country around the president.

Trump gave the impression of an American receding interest in NATO and Putin has taken a punt on that being true under a US president he presumed would not act.

Trump set the conditions for Putin's impression that the US would not have the resolve to resist his move into Ukraine.

Putin has been proved wrong.

Lincoln had the same problem as the south saw him as weak and dithering.

The south was proved wrong.

Notwithstanding the possibility that Trump and Putin had an arrangement that he would go in for Trump's political benefit. If true, this has proved to be a mistake.


Half correct. Putin wouldn't have invaded under Trump because he's a loose cannon and probably would have become involved militarily just to play strong man.

Putin saw the disastrous Afghanistan exit and used that as a measure of Biden, combined with Bidens weak signaling about sanctions, maybe, if it was jst a small incursion.

It's actually OK to hate Trump with every fibre of your being AND think Biden is a disaster. That's called walking and chewing gum.

And Trump actually deserves some credit for telling the EU to pull their financial weight funding NATO.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:26pm:
Half correct. Putin wouldn't have invaded under Trump because he's a loose cannon and probably would have become involved militarily just to play strong man.

Putin saw the disastrous Afghanistan exit and used that as a measure of Biden, combined with Bidens weak signaling about sanctions, maybe, if it was jst a small incursion.

It's actually OK to hate Trump with every fibre of your being AND think Biden is a disaster. That's called walking and chewing gum.

And Trump actually deserves some credit for telling the EU to pull their financial weight funding NATO.

It's also ok to admit you're wrong about Trump. Even the Republicans in congress are doing that along with millions of former Trump supporters (his support base is at an all-time low and dropping). That's called humility.

Trump was and is a loose cannon, but it is unlikely that Trump would have gone in against Putin. Trump has a fetish for dictators and totalitarians. He was particularly obsessed with Putin and Kim Jong Un.

How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


Biden begged China.

Pathetic!


Begged?


Yes. Begged. Read the freaking article!



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:26pm:
Half correct. Putin wouldn't have invaded under Trump because he's a loose cannon and probably would have become involved militarily just to play strong man.

Putin saw the disastrous Afghanistan exit and used that as a measure of Biden, combined with Bidens weak signaling about sanctions, maybe, if it was jst a small incursion.

It's actually OK to hate Trump with every fibre of your being AND think Biden is a disaster. That's called walking and chewing gum.

And Trump actually deserves some credit for telling the EU to pull their financial weight funding NATO.

It's also ok to admit you're wrong about Trump. Even the Republicans in congress are doing that along with millions of former Trump supporters (his support base is at an all-time low and dropping). That's called humility.

Trump was and is a loose cannon, but it is unlikely that Trump would have gone in against Putin. Trump has a fetish for dictators and totalitarians. He was particularly obsessed with Putin and Kim Jong Un.

How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.
Yes his support has evaporated now because he should be keeping his trap shut and not undermine Biden right now. There will be plenty of time for tat later.

However, Biden bungled this BADLY and Putin pounced.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending

So Trump's 4 claims were fact-checked as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
However, Biden bungled this BADLY and Putin pounced.

So far everything has gone wrong for Putin including his assessment that Biden would do nothing.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending

So Trump's 4 claims were fact-checked as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.


Yes Trump was correct but if you are easily confused the media can exaggerate and call it false with 1/2 true reporting.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:48pm

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending

So Trump's 4 claims were fact-checked as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.


Yes Trump was correct but if you are easily confused the media can exaggerate and call it false with 1/2 true reporting.

None of Trump's statements were outright true. You provided the link.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.



according to turdie that's a bad thing ::)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

Remember when Trump first got in, the LW media said he would start WW3.   ;D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:57pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:48pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending

So Trump's 4 claims were fact-checked as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.


Yes Trump was correct but if you are easily confused the media can exaggerate and call it false with 1/2 true reporting.

None of Trump's statements were outright true. You provided the link.


So NATO countries owed NATO money just like Trump said.

Explain how that is false or only half true.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:59pm

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:48pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending

So Trump's 4 claims were fact-checked as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.


Yes Trump was correct but if you are easily confused the media can exaggerate and call it false with 1/2 true reporting.

None of Trump's statements were outright true. You provided the link.


So NATO countries owed NATO money just like Trump said.

Explain how that is false or only half true.

You posted a link. I read it. The fact-checkers reported the 4 claims as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.

Would you like to post another link?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:48pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
How much did the European NATO countries, Canada and Turkey owe NATO?


You have to do a lot of math to find the real answer.


Quote:
NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending

So Trump's 4 claims were fact-checked as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.


Yes Trump was correct but if you are easily confused the media can exaggerate and call it false with 1/2 true reporting.

None of Trump's statements were outright true. You provided the link.


So NATO countries owed NATO money just like Trump said.

Explain how that is false or only half true.

You posted a link. I read it. The fact-checkers reported the 4 claims as: False, 1/2 true, confusing, exaggeration.

Would you like to post another link?


No that link is just fine, it gives you the facts, you are caught up on an opinion.

You have read the link and the facts, did you draw the same conclusions that when Trump said NATO allies owed money they in fact do not?.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:21pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.


That sounds like a plot twist from Scooby Doo  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.


That sounds like a plot twist from Scooby Doo  ;D ;D ;D

That's my line!

Except this plot's not contorted with elaborate stupidity.

It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.


That sounds like a plot twist from Scooby Doo  ;D ;D ;D

That's my line!

Except this plot's not contorted with elaborate stupidity.

It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:
It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


In Trump first term as president he introduced multiple sanctions against Russia starting on AUG 2 2017 and the last on DEC 5 2019, evidence and facts suggests he would have introduced more sanctions.



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:43pm

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:
It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


In Trump first term as president he introduced multiple sanctions against Russia starting on AUG 2 2017 and the last on DEC 5 2019, evidence and facts suggests he would have introduced more sanctions.

In 2017 Trump begrudgingly signed the sanctions legislation against Russia not because he approved of them but because it passed by veto-proof margins. He then criticised congress for it. When Putin responded by expelling 755 people from the American embassy and consulate staff, Trump responded by “thanking” Putin and saying he “greatly appreciated” the striking diplomatic move.

In 2018 when Putin won a sham election, White House officials asked Trump not to congratulate Putin. he ignored them and congratulated him anyway.

A few months later, Trump appeared alongside Putin in Helsinki, lashed out at US officials and announced that he considered Putin more reliable than his own country’s intelligence agencies.

At the end of 2018, Trump lifted Russian sanctions.

In 2019 a Russian-based cybercriminal organization called “Evil Corp” (not Putin or his government) was sanctioned for using malware to steal more than $100 million from banks and financial institutions.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:
It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


In Trump first term as president he introduced multiple sanctions against Russia starting on AUG 2 2017 and the last on DEC 5 2019, evidence and facts suggests he would have introduced more sanctions.

In 2017 Trump begrudgingly signed the sanctions legislation against Russia not because he approved of them but because it passed by veto-proof margins. He then criticised congress for it. When Putin responded by expelling 755 people from the American embassy and consulate staff, Trump responded by “thanking” Putin and saying he “greatly appreciated” the striking diplomatic move.

In 2018 when Putin won a sham election, White House officials asked Trump not to congratulate Putin. he ignored them and congratulated him anyway.

A few months later, Trump appeared alongside Putin in Helsinki, lashed out at US officials and announced that he considered Putin more reliable than his own country’s intelligence agencies.

At the end of 2018, Trump lifted Russian sanctions.

In 2019 a Russian-based cybercriminal organization called “Evil Corp” (not Putin or his government) was sanctioned for using malware to steal more than $100 million from banks and financial institutions.


Everything you say is word twisting, I believe there is a vacancy at CNN, Coumo retired and you have the same style.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:54pm

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:
It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


In Trump first term as president he introduced multiple sanctions against Russia starting on AUG 2 2017 and the last on DEC 5 2019, evidence and facts suggests he would have introduced more sanctions.

In 2017 Trump begrudgingly signed the sanctions legislation against Russia not because he approved of them but because it passed by veto-proof margins. He then criticised congress for it. When Putin responded by expelling 755 people from the American embassy and consulate staff, Trump responded by “thanking” Putin and saying he “greatly appreciated” the striking diplomatic move.

In 2018 when Putin won a sham election, White House officials asked Trump not to congratulate Putin. he ignored them and congratulated him anyway.

A few months later, Trump appeared alongside Putin in Helsinki, lashed out at US officials and announced that he considered Putin more reliable than his own country’s intelligence agencies.

At the end of 2018, Trump lifted Russian sanctions.

In 2019 a Russian-based cybercriminal organization called “Evil Corp” (not Putin or his government) was sanctioned for using malware to steal more than $100 million from banks and financial institutions.


Everything you say is word twisting, I believe there is a vacancy at CNN, Coumo retired and you have the same style.

So you can't find anything that refutes the chain of events, then.

Trump did not want to sanction or criticise Putin for any act. He had a fetish over Putin.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:57pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.


That sounds like a plot twist from Scooby Doo  ;D ;D ;D

That's my line!

Except this plot's not contorted with elaborate stupidity.

It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.


You saying Biden begged the wrong guy? 😳

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Steampipe on Feb 28th, 2022 at 3:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

Steampipe wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:
It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


In Trump first term as president he introduced multiple sanctions against Russia starting on AUG 2 2017 and the last on DEC 5 2019, evidence and facts suggests he would have introduced more sanctions.

In 2017 Trump begrudgingly signed the sanctions legislation against Russia not because he approved of them but because it passed by veto-proof margins. He then criticised congress for it. When Putin responded by expelling 755 people from the American embassy and consulate staff, Trump responded by “thanking” Putin and saying he “greatly appreciated” the striking diplomatic move.

In 2018 when Putin won a sham election, White House officials asked Trump not to congratulate Putin. he ignored them and congratulated him anyway.

A few months later, Trump appeared alongside Putin in Helsinki, lashed out at US officials and announced that he considered Putin more reliable than his own country’s intelligence agencies.

At the end of 2018, Trump lifted Russian sanctions.

In 2019 a Russian-based cybercriminal organization called “Evil Corp” (not Putin or his government) was sanctioned for using malware to steal more than $100 million from banks and financial institutions.


Everything you say is word twisting, I believe there is a vacancy at CNN, Coumo retired and you have the same style.

So you can't find anything that refutes the chain of events, then.

Trump did not want to sanction or criticise Putin for any act. He had a fetish over Putin.


I dont need to refute anything, Obama for instance congratulated Putin for winning in 2012, nothing unusual for the president to congratulate someone on winning an election, unless he is Trump of course. Trump never lashed out at security services, that just never happened. Its like arguing with a drunk at the pub.

Its all down to how you want to twist words to make the outcome what you want.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:37pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.


That sounds like a plot twist from Scooby Doo  ;D ;D ;D

That's my line!

Except this plot's not contorted with elaborate stupidity.

It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.


You saying Biden begged the wrong guy? 😳


Lisa, you lost the bet - L-O-S-T - Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:37pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
No, Trump would have loved to have been a war president.

And yet everything Trump said and did with Putin included lavish praise on Putin (up to and including publicly humiliating his own US security services).

What evidence do you have that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin?


Have you ever heard the expression, pissing in someone's pocket?

so you don't have any evidence that Trump would have had the US take up arms against Putin, but presume that he was only pissing in Putin's pocket.

What evidence do you have that Trump was only pissing in Putin's pocket?


Well Putin didn't invade under Trump, so that's proof right there  ;D

Maybe he thought Trump would win a 2nd term and remove the US from NATO.

If so, wrong bet.


That sounds like a plot twist from Scooby Doo  ;D ;D ;D

That's my line!

Except this plot's not contorted with elaborate stupidity.

It was possible Trump could have won a second term (until a few days after the election) and there's every reason to believe that Trump's obsession with Putin would lead to him not sanctioning against an invasion of Ukraine.


I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.


You saying Biden begged the wrong guy? 😳


Lisa, you lost the bet - L-O-S-T - Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)



Today's word - every day's Bwianesque word - is monomania.


There was no bet, not with Valkie, not with Lisa, there was no lost bet.

You are a phoney, you are not called 'Bwian Ross', you do not have a brother called Daniel Ross, you are not a veteran but a pompous, vain old fool with a mail-order 'doktorate' and zero insight into your life long inadequacies.




Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:54pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.



;D ;D ;D ;D

you actually think he started planning for this a few months ago?

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D



you fool

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:07pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.



;D ;D ;D ;D

you actually think he started planning for this a few months ago?

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D



you fool



Seeing cadaverous sock puppet Bidden's scramble for Kabul, Vlad saw it was his opportunity. The Ayatollah's and Xi are watching and taking note.


Bidden/Kamala??  Who could POSSIBLY take them seriously??? They embody Western nihilistic, identity-obsessed decadence. 
Bidden was a prat-falling, accident prone fool when he had his marbles. The Kenyan prez Hussein O'Bama himself said so. Now he is a bewildered, accident prone fool in a personal fog.





Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:08pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.



;D ;D ;D ;D

you actually think he started planning for this a few months ago?

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
you fool

Even Putin has said he'd been planning this for years.

Another part to Occam's razor.

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.

Military action is best initiated in the early Spring or mid summer in that area of the world. Winter - too cold. Late spring - vehicles get bogged.

The earliest he could have started this was when he did - late February.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:09pm

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Seeing cadaverous sock puppet Bidden's scramble for Kabul, Vlad saw it was his opportunity.



what rot .. this has been years in the planning. the only thing to delay it was Trump threatening to quit nato, and then covid.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:13pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
The earliest he could have started this was when he did - late February.



and it's still to cold for the Russian soldiers stranded in Ukraine with no fuel or food.


Saw a YouTube video earlier of a Ukrainian soldier taunting Russian soldiers with the fact that he was nice and warm in his heated house while they were freezing outside and hungry.  ;D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:26pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.



;D ;D ;D ;D

you actually think he started planning for this a few months ago?

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D



you fool


You really are a dribbling rocking retard. Planning and waiting for a good opportunity to execute a plan are two seperate things.

The way that Biden bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal was a loud and clear message to Putin. And this Democrat Rep agrees.

"But the reality is that in the minds of leaders like Putin or Xi Jinping in China, the victory of the Taliban and the American and NATO withdrawal was certainly heartening to them.

"It was not a great advertisement for American strength in the world right now, let's put it that way."


https://www.newsweek.com/afghanistan-withdrawal-putin-tom-malinowski-biden-1675822

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:27pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
The earliest he could have started this was when he did - late February.



and it's still to cold for the Russian soldiers stranded in Ukraine with no fuel or food.


Saw a YouTube video earlier of a Ukrainian soldier taunting Russian soldiers with the fact that he was nice and warm in his heated house while they were freezing outside and hungry.  ;D

Yes. Putin calculated that he would have this wrapped up within 3 days.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:30pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
The way that Biden bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal was a loud and clear message to Putin. And this Democrat Rep agrees.

"But the reality is that in the minds of leaders like Putin or Xi Jinping in China, the victory of the Taliban and the American and NATO withdrawal was certainly heartening to them.

"It was not a great advertisement for American strength in the world right now, let's put it that way."

Yesterday's mistake is today's victory.

Putin was misled into believing the US did not have the resolve to take him on, nor the will to stay in NATO.

Sucks to be him; and the world is watching and taking aim.

I'd bet his personal security has been exponentially enhanced.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:31pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
The earliest he could have started this was when he did - late February.



and it's still to cold for the Russian soldiers stranded in Ukraine with no fuel or food.


Saw a YouTube video earlier of a Ukrainian soldier taunting Russian soldiers with the fact that he was nice and warm in his heated house while they were freezing outside and hungry.  ;D

Yes. Putin calculated that he would have this wrapped up within 3 days.


yes, he expected them to just give up :D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:37pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.



;D ;D ;D ;D

you actually think he started planning for this a few months ago?

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D



you fool


You really are a dribbling rocking retard. Planning and waiting for a good opportunity to execute a plan are two seperate things.

The way that Biden bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal was a loud and clear message to Putin. And this Democrat Rep agrees.

"But the reality is that in the minds of leaders like Putin or Xi Jinping in China, the victory of the Taliban and the American and NATO withdrawal was certainly heartening to them.

"It was not a great advertisement for American strength in the world right now, let's put it that way."


https://www.newsweek.com/afghanistan-withdrawal-putin-tom-malinowski-biden-1675822



i don't know why you think quoting a republican trying to pin the blame for this on Biden is going to help you in any way.

This has been in the planning for years. The delay was caused by trump threatening to pull out of nato and covid. Putin would have been crazy to attack then, not because of any fear of trump, but because doing so would have forced trump to reverse his position and united nato. If trump had won he would have waited for the US to pull out of nato, nato to collapse, and then gone after not just the Ukraine, but all the other former soviet republics


You'd best go play with your kettlebells turdie .....you have less chance of damaging your brain that way

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:39pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:37pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:29pm:
I think we need to go with occam's razor on this one.
Putin kept it in his pants when Trump was Pres.
Now Putin is waving it all over the place.
Ergo, Biden couldn't convince Putin to keep it zipped up.

That's your take on occam's razor?

The simplest possibility is that Putin waited to see if Trump would be president. That didn't happen.

Like the rest of the world, Russia too was hindered by covid for all of 2021.

Putin initiated pre-drawn plans for a Ukraine invasion in early 2022.


So he waited a year...CUNNING.

Nah, he saw the Afghanistan debacle and started planning.



;D ;D ;D ;D

you actually think he started planning for this a few months ago?

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D



you fool


You really are a dribbling rocking retard. Planning and waiting for a good opportunity to execute a plan are two seperate things.

The way that Biden bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal was a loud and clear message to Putin. And this Democrat Rep agrees.

"But the reality is that in the minds of leaders like Putin or Xi Jinping in China, the victory of the Taliban and the American and NATO withdrawal was certainly heartening to them.

"It was not a great advertisement for American strength in the world right now, let's put it that way."


https://www.newsweek.com/afghanistan-withdrawal-putin-tom-malinowski-biden-1675822



i don't know why you think quoting a republican trying to pin the blame for this on Biden is going to help you in any way.

This has been in the planning for years. The delay was caused by trump threatening to pull out of nato and covid. Putin would have been crazy to attack then, not because of any fear of trump, but because doing so would have forced trump to reverse his position and united nato. If trump had won he would have waited for the US to pull out of nato, nato to collapse, and then gone after not just the Ukraine, but all the other former soviet republics


You'd best go play with your kettlebells turdie .....you have less chance of damaging your brain that way


THE DRIBBLING RETARD STRIKES AGAIN

Malinowski, a Democratic lawmaker
who recently traveled to Ukraine as part of a bipartisan congressional delegation investigating the possibility of a Russian invasion, appeared on BBC World News to discuss the crisis that has engulfed Afghanistan since Kabul fell to Taliban fighters when the U.S pulled out in August

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:40pm
Hey Smith.

DON'T BREED YA MONG

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:43pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:40pm:
Hey Smith.

DON'T BREED YA MONG



says the idiot who thinks this was all planned in the last few months


;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:45pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:43pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:40pm:
Hey Smith.

DON'T BREED YA MONG



says the idiot who thinks this was all planned in the last few months


;D ;D ;D


Is he a Democrat Republican?

DON'T BREED YA MONG

Malinowski, a Democratic lawmaker who recently traveled to Ukraine as part of a bipartisan congressional delegation investigating the possibility of a Russian invasion, appeared on BBC World News to discuss the crisis that has engulfed Afghanistan since Kabul fell to Taliban fighters when the U.S pulled out in August

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:51pm
I didn't read your story dopey

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 7:19pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
I didn't read your story dopey


Except when you said I posted an opinion from a Republican.

Rep stands for REPRESENTATIVE, ya dribbling downer.

i don't know why you think quoting a republican trying to pin the blame for this on Biden is going to help you in any way.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 8:40pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 7:19pm:
Except when you said I posted an opinion from a Republican.



it was an assumption. One I shouldn't have made.

Whilst it's rare that there are democrats out there as stupid as you, they do exist. I should have known.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2022 at 8:48pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 8:40pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 7:19pm:
Except when you said I posted an opinion from a Republican.



it was an assumption. One I shouldn't have made.

Whilst it's rare that there are democrats out there as stupid as you, they do exist. I should have known.


Go change your dribble towel, ya downer.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2022 at 8:52pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 8:40pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 7:19pm:
Except when you said I posted an opinion from a Republican.



it was an assumption. One I shouldn't have made.

Whilst it's rare that there are democrats out there as stupid as you, they do exist. I should have known.


Go change your dribble towel, ya downer.



Unlike you I don't need one dopey. It's only junkies who drool all the time


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mortdooley on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:23pm
Damn, now where is the biden crime family going to launder their payoffs? Since the New President of Ukraine is trying to expose and end corruption in his country maybe biden is actually supporting Putin to remove him. On the QT of course.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59pm
My goodness you really like to twist reality to suit your warped ideas, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:12pm
Pretty sad to see the Democrats stoop so low.
Blasting Trump as a Traitor for his 'peaceful' solutions and working 'with' these leaders for a 'peaceful' outcome.

Biden now is trying to emulate Trump's style because Biden
1. Can't think for himself, having been institutionalised for life.
2. Is a thief and hypocrite and has nothing to show for it.
3. Thinks everyone is more stupid than him and that they have forgotten already.
4. Expects them all to change the rules for him so he can win, just like he did against Trump.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mortdooley on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59pm:
My goodness you really like to twist reality to suit your warped ideas, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


The biden family has taken millions from both China and Russia. Where should their loyalties be?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59pm:
My goodness you really like to twist reality to suit your warped ideas, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


Self projecting again Bwian?


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 1st, 2022 at 7:49am
Oh dearie, dearie, me.  Another loser, Lisa.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mortdooley on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:46pm
Rosemont Seneca Partners

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemont_Seneca_Partners

Smoking gun?

https://rumble.com/vvyrru-breaking-ukraine-press-release-about-joe-bidendeep-state-corruption-in-the-.html

Invasion of Ukraine is bad for the biden business. Imagine if this was the Trump family, you progressives would be on Putin's side.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:51pm
Unleash the Harkonnen TRUMP card!
At least we'll see some real 'action'!

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:57pm
Biden is being kept by his wife Joe and his other women:
Hillary says "Can I borrow some more Money Joe, I'll give it back - I promise."
Pelosi says "Joe. You shouldn't involve yourself in evil other countries and wars - its a very naughty thing!"
Harris says "Now if I was President Joe, I would want to be just like you."

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by JaSin. on Mar 1st, 2022 at 9:00pm
Biden, institutionalised all his political life - ask's his wife Joe "What's it like outside of America?"
Wife Joe: "Ssh - they'll hear you."

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 8:58am

Jasin wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:51pm:
Unleash the Harkonnen TRUMP card!
At least we'll see some real 'action'!


Exactly. We should send Mr Trump over to shirtfront Putin. He'd put Putin in his place, no?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:03am

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59pm:
My goodness you really like to twist reality to suit your warped ideas, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


The biden family has taken millions from both China and Russia. Where should their loyalties be?


Mort, Mr Trump pulled 24 mil out of China in his first year as prez. All undeclared, he just withdrew it from a CCP-run bank. Cash. When asked about it, he didn't say. When asked for his tax returns, he said, any day now, you'll see. 

So I'm curious. Where should Mr Trump's loyalties be?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:03am:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59pm:
My goodness you really like to twist reality to suit your warped ideas, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


The biden family has taken millions from both China and Russia. Where should their loyalties be?


Mort, Mr Trump pulled 24 mil out of China in his first year as prez. All undeclared, he just withdrew it from a CCP-run bank. Cash. When asked about it, he didn't say. When asked for his tax returns, he said, any day now, you'll see. 

So I'm curious. Where should Mr Trump's loyalties be?



In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?
Or Pelosi's, other Dems and Republican politicians?

https://www.breitbart.com/tag/red-handed/


Schweizer, the author of Red-Handed: How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win, said, “What was initially a story of cronyism and corruption we now have to recognize is an intelligence story, and it’s not just a question of the Bidens getting rich. We have to start having the conversation and investigating whether the Biden family may be compromised.”

He continued, “We knew that there was a commercial tie in the past, that Hunter Biden put it together. I broke story in 2018. What we now know are two separate strands that are critically important. Using the Hunter Biden laptop and using emails from a Gmail account of one of Hunter’s business partners, he gave us access to the email account. We now know that every deal that the Bidens got in China came through individuals with links to the highest level of Chinese intelligence.”

Schweizer added, “We also now know that Hunter Biden did these deals, but the larger family benefited. We know that James Biden, Joe Biden’s brother, got at least $2 million of that money from China. We also now know that Hunter Biden was subsidizing his father’s lifestyle. He was paying for his bills. He was paying for renovations on his home up in Delaware while Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States. It’s not only illegal according to ethics laws. It also shows that Joe Biden is now a beneficiary of the foreign dealings that Hunter Biden has had. It’s no longer good enough for him to say, well, I didn’t have anything involved. He was a beneficiary.”

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:41pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:03am:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:59pm:
My goodness you really like to twist reality to suit your warped ideas, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


The biden family has taken millions from both China and Russia. Where should their loyalties be?


Mort, Mr Trump pulled 24 mil out of China in his first year as prez. All undeclared, he just withdrew it from a CCP-run bank. Cash. When asked about it, he didn't say. When asked for his tax returns, he said, any day now, you'll see. 

So I'm curious. Where should Mr Trump's loyalties be?



In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?
Or Pelosi's, other Dems and Republican politicians?

https://www.breitbart.com/tag/red-handed/


Schweizer, the author of Red-Handed: How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win, said, “What was initially a story of cronyism and corruption we now have to recognize is an intelligence story, and it’s not just a question of the Bidens getting rich. We have to start having the conversation and investigating whether the Biden family may be compromised.”

He continued, “We knew that there was a commercial tie in the past, that Hunter Biden put it together. I broke story in 2018. What we now know are two separate strands that are critically important. Using the Hunter Biden laptop and using emails from a Gmail account of one of Hunter’s business partners, he gave us access to the email account. We now know that every deal that the Bidens got in China came through individuals with links to the highest level of Chinese intelligence.”

Schweizer added, “We also now know that Hunter Biden did these deals, but the larger family benefited. We know that James Biden, Joe Biden’s brother, got at least $2 million of that money from China. We also now know that Hunter Biden was subsidizing his father’s lifestyle. He was paying for his bills. He was paying for renovations on his home up in Delaware while Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States. It’s not only illegal according to ethics laws. It also shows that Joe Biden is now a beneficiary of the foreign dealings that Hunter Biden has had. It’s no longer good enough for him to say, well, I didn’t have anything involved. He was a beneficiary.”


Schweizer said, did he?

Sorry, old boy, Schweizer's not Simon. You're out.

The minute Breitbart promote genuine books on "elite corruption" we'll think about letting you back in.

You can take your fingers out of your bottom now. Simon says.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:50pm

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:23pm:
Damn, now where is the biden crime family going to launder their payoffs? .



He could ask Trump

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm
Love the bit about Hunter paying his dad's bills being "unethical". Where was Schweizer when Don Junior was running the Trump Organisation? Where was Schweizer when Ivanka, Trump Organisation director, was her father's senior advisor in the White House? Where was Schweizer when Jared Kushner was denied security clearance - or when Trump's ethical advisor quit in disgust? Or when nobody would put up their hand to replace him? Where was Schweizer...

Look, Simon says, okay?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.



A property developer and casino and hotel tycoon - versus a Senator and VP under the Kenyan-Irish joint ticket.

Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:49pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Did he call Xi and say Come on man!

U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/us/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine.html

So Biden did what he could to avert a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


It means China laughed at ByDen

I bet they're not laughing now.


They're so laughing at Biden, they love watching America squirm.

This wouldn't have happened under Trump for a few simple reasons.



you need to stay of the drugs ...

the Chinese were laughing at Americans squirming every time Trump opened his mouth for the whole term he was in office.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:50pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.



A property developer and casino and hotel tycoon - versus a Senator and VP under the Kenyan-Irish joint ticket.

Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.



;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


so now it's only some businesses that are OK ....

you moron, trump could run brothels in china and you'd still cheer him on for it

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:12pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.



A property developer and casino and hotel tycoon - versus a Senator and VP under the Kenyan-Irish joint ticket.

Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.


Bit hard to do, old boy. Trump's never put out his tax returns.

Now why is that, do you think?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:17pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:50pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.



A property developer and casino and hotel tycoon - versus a Senator and VP under the Kenyan-Irish joint ticket.

Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.



;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


so now it's only some businesses that are OK ....

you moron, trump could run brothels in china and you'd still cheer him on for it


Putin's signed a pledge of allegiance to China, and the old boy cheers him on.

Go figure. Whoever thought, back when Fwank was cheering Bush on, that in twenty years time he'd be gunning for the axis of Trump, Putin and Chi-na?

Always absolutely never ever, no?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:21pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.



A property developer and casino and hotel tycoon -


Lol   ;D

Five bankruptcies, and he sent his casinos and hotels broke.

Tell me again how he's a tycoon?

(How the hell do you send a casino broke - seriously?)



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:24pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:50pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:23am:
In what sense does that address the Bidden family's business interests in the Ukraine, Russia, China?


are you really pretending trump has no business interests in Russia or china?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


He is. Fwank, naughty old boy and devout Putin apologist, is seriously declaring Mr Twump's all good. Straight face, faux-outrage, tight arse and all.

You've got to give it to them. Mort just screams lies. The old boy goes to great lengths to dredge up his own.

Stupid and mendacious, that'll be ten-rupees.



A property developer and casino and hotel tycoon - versus a Senator and VP under the Kenyan-Irish joint ticket.

Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.



;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


so now it's only some businesses that are OK ....

you moron, trump could run brothels in china and you'd still cheer him on for it


Well, not for long.  They'd be bankrupt within a few months.

Without exception, everything he touches turns to sh1t.

How the hell do you send a casino broke? 

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:21pm:
Five bankruptcies



Six actually


Quote:
1991: Trump’s Taj Mahal
1992: First of two Atlantic City casinos owned by Donald Trump.
1992: Second of two Atlantic City casinos owned by Donald Trump.
1992:  Trump’s Plaza Hotel in New York City
2004:  Trump’s Hotels and Casinos Resorts
2009:  Trump’s Entertainment Resorts

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:24pm:
How the hell do you send a casino broke?



Even worse, How do you send FOUR casinos broke? :D :D

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:30pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:21pm:
Five bankruptcies



Six actually


Quote:
1991: Trump’s Taj Mahal
1992: First of two Atlantic City casinos owned by Donald Trump.
1992: Second of two Atlantic City casinos owned by Donald Trump.
1992:  Trump’s Plaza Hotel in New York City
2004:  Trump’s Hotels and Casinos Resorts
2009:  Trump’s Entertainment Resorts


Lol    ;D

Officially the most unsuccessful businessperson the USA has ever seen.

That's not my opinion - it's a documented fact.

Hard to imagine a bigger loser than Trump.


(He sent casinos broke ...  Lol.  They're a licence to print money)

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.




Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:41pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


Yes, but the markets are rigged, we all know that. So unfair.

At least Mr Trump gave it a go. He did succeed in politics, no?

Sorry, that was a question. Feel free to say yeah-but-no-but-yeah-but..

Look, it's complicated, okay?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by John Smith on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:41pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.



it was one of you morons who introduced trump into the topic. Don't cry just because your stupidity is called out

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:42pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.


That's because Trump is 100% behind Putin's illegal invasion.

Don't you watch the news, old boy?

Too busy jerking off to questionable porn?



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:43pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Trump "University".


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:44pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.


And you're praising him for it, playing your jolly old culture wars.

Paki Bastard, Calabrian Dago, Unflushable Tjurd.

Always absolutely never ever, no?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:49pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


Yes, but the markets are rigged, we all know that. So unfair.

At least Mr Trump gave it a go. He did succeed in politics, no?


If by "succeed in politics" you mean being impeached twice, losing the Senate, losing the House, losing the White House after one short term, losing the popular vote twice, not fulfilling a single election promise, colluding with foreign interests to rig an election, and inciting a violent insurrection with the intent of murdering the Vice President then yes - he was very successful.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Trump "University".


Oh? Well, how about Trump Foundation?

Just look at all the waste and mismanaged  administration costs in the Clinton and Gates Foundations.100% of Trump Foundation funds went directly to the beneficiaries, yes?

How many charitable foundations can say that?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:59pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Trump "University".


Oh? Well, how about Trump Foundation?

Just look at all the waste and mismanaged  administration costs in the Clinton and Gates Foundations.100% of Trump Foundation funds went directly to the beneficiaries, yes?

How many charitable foundations can say that?


You have to ask yourself, who needed the money more?

Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, or Ivanka and Donald Jr.?

Cocaine and Chinese shoes don't grow on trees you know.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 8:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


Yes, but the markets are rigged, we all know that. So unfair.

At least Mr Trump gave it a go. He did succeed in politics, no?


If by "succeed in politics" you mean being impeached twice, losing the Senate, losing the House, losing the White House after one short term, losing the popular vote twice, not fulfilling a single election promise, colluding with foreign interests to rig an election, and inciting a violent insurrection with the intent of murdering the Vice President then yes - he was very successful.



Well yes, there is that, but he certainly captured the heart of the old boy, no? How do you account for that?

Admittedly, the old boy will fall for someone with all the charm of Vladimir Putin, but Dear Leader's the first to have gotten him this wet since George Bush Junior.

Why do you think it is?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:59pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Trump "University".


Oh? Well, how about Trump Foundation?

Just look at all the waste and mismanaged  administration costs in the Clinton and Gates Foundations.100% of Trump Foundation funds went directly to the beneficiaries, yes?

How many charitable foundations can say that?


You have to ask yourself, who needed the money more?

Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, or Ivanka and Donald Jr.?

Cocaine and Chinese shoes don't grow on trees you know.


No, but Ivanka did put out some really nice shoes once. It makes perfect sense that she'd deserve donations from Trump donors to get her ideas off the ground.

Okay, Ivanka's shoe company failed too, but it's the thought that counts, you know. Why anyone would donate to Martha's Table is beyond me.

They're tinted.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 8:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:59pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Trump "University".


Oh? Well, how about Trump Foundation?

Just look at all the waste and mismanaged  administration costs in the Clinton and Gates Foundations.100% of Trump Foundation funds went directly to the beneficiaries, yes?

How many charitable foundations can say that?


You have to ask yourself, who needed the money more?

Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, or Ivanka and Donald Jr.?

Cocaine and Chinese shoes don't grow on trees you know.


That's right, folks - Trump and his children stole money from the Children's Aid Society.

"Children's Aid helps tens of thousands of disadvantaged New York City children succeed annually, by providing comprehensive services of adoption and foster care, after-school and weekend programs, arts, camps, early childhood education, events, family support, medical, mental health, and dental, juvenile justice, legal advocacy, special initiatives, sports and recreation, and youth development programs."

They were ordered to pay back $2,000,000 and were prohibited from ever running charities again.

These are the people you admire and support.


Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by SadKangaroo on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:33pm
China can't stand up against Russia taking territory they think is theirs because Taiwan.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:42pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.


That's because Trump is 100% behind Putin's illegal invasion.

Don't you watch the news, old boy?

Too busy jerking off to questionable porn?



He's not behind it - he just thinks it was a stroke of genius... no moral judgement or stance taken there.

Hitler was brilliant in sweeping through France in 1940 ...... Kruschev was brilliant in defending Stalingrad .....

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 10:15pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.


And you're praising him for it, playing your jolly old culture wars.

Paki Bastard, Calabrian Dago, Unflushable Tjurd.

Always absolutely never ever, no?


You Mustaphas know that Trump is not endorsing Putin's invasion. You are relentlessly, khuntishly twist his assessment of Putin's  actions.

So "Paki Bastard, Calabrian Dago, Unflushable Tjurd" are correct in that regard - you know you are not honest, I know you are not honest.

Putin outfoxed Macron, Boris, old moth eaten sock puppet Bidden. But outfoxing the Western Gretas of this wold doesnt mean that you are siding with the fox. It just means that you recognise that the Western Gretas are what they are. But you mongs know this, you just pretend to be paki khunts to safe face - or just for khuntish fun.



Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 11:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:59pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Trump had business interests for 40 years before becoming prez, Bidden was a Senator for 40 years.

Compare and contrast.

There were Trump Airlines, Trump Ice, Trump: The Game, Trump casinos, Trump magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump’s travel site, Trump’s comms company, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, Trump Vodka...


In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Trump "University".


Oh? Well, how about Trump Foundation?

Just look at all the waste and mismanaged  administration costs in the Clinton and Gates Foundations.100% of Trump Foundation funds went directly to the beneficiaries, yes?

How many charitable foundations can say that?


You have to ask yourself, who needed the money more?

Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, or Ivanka and Donald Jr.?

Cocaine and Chinese shoes don't grow on trees you know.


That's right, folks - Trump and his children stole money from the Children's Aid Society.

"Children's Aid helps tens of thousands of disadvantaged New York City children succeed annually, by providing comprehensive services of adoption and foster care, after-school and weekend programs, arts, camps, early childhood education, events, family support, medical, mental health, and dental, juvenile justice, legal advocacy, special initiatives, sports and recreation, and youth development programs."

They were ordered to pay back $2,000,000 and were prohibited from ever running charities again.

These are the people you admire and support.


$2,000,000. You make it sound like that's worth something. Rudy got more than that from each one of his Russian-Ukrainian lobbying jobs.

Pathetic, Greggery, you can try harder than that.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 11:45pm

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.


And you're praising him for it, playing your jolly old culture wars.

Paki Bastard, Calabrian Dago, Unflushable Tjurd.

Always absolutely never ever, no?


You Mustaphas know that Trump is not endorsing Putin's invasion. You are relentlessly, khuntishly twist his assessment of Putin's  actions.

So "Paki Bastard, Calabrian Dago, Unflushable Tjurd" are correct in that regard - you know you are not honest, I know you are not honest.

Putin outfoxed Macron, Boris, old moth eaten sock puppet Bidden. But outfoxing the Western Gretas of this wold doesnt mean that you are siding with the fox. It just means that you recognise that the Western Gretas are what they are. But you mongs know this, you just pretend to be paki khunts to safe face - or just for khuntish fun.


Oh? I, Mustapha, know Trump is quickly going broke. The days of Saudi sheikhs staying in the Trump Washington to get selfies with Don Junior are long gone, as are all legitimate sources of income after that fateful day in the Capitol, you know when.

No, when Trump's not stiffing little old ladies for donations to his Save America superpacs, he's plotting with Rudy, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort for their share of the Russian skim.

Come come, did you ever imagine Trump went to the White House for any other reason than to cash in on selling Anerica out?

Same as it ever was. No mendacity there, old boy, as every schoolboy knows.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 12:04am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:42pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
Putin is killing Ukrainians - and turd, paki Khunt, Gino the Concreter  et all are on and on and on and on and on about Trump.


That's because Trump is 100% behind Putin's illegal invasion.

Don't you watch the news, old boy?

Too busy jerking off to questionable porn?



He's not behind it - he just thinks it was a stroke of genius... no moral judgement or stance taken there.

Hitler was brilliant in sweeping through France in 1940 ...... Kruschev was brilliant in defending Stalingrad .....


But Putin's a "peacemaker", helping the Ukraine to become "independent". "Think on it, independence. Peace. That's gotta be a good thing, right?"

These aren't off-the-cuff thoughts, they're Public Relations. Trump repeated the same key words, using the same carefully-selected Russian messaging. He knows how to do this by now.

If a British politician had said anything similar about Hitler in WWII, they would have been detained.

Oh, they were. Mosley was locked up in 1940. The difference then?

Mosley believed it - he was a fascist. Trump is merely a paid mouthpiece.

That, of course, is the least worst of the options. The alternative is not so nice, no?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 7:55am
Circling Kiev with tanks was never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people.
Dementia Joe, the leader of the free world

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1498883921936887811





Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:25am

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 7:55am:
Circling Kiev with tanks was never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people.
Dementia Joe, the leader of the free world

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1498883921936887811


Just so. And Putin is the leader of the un-free world.

Guess which American leader is backing him.

You?

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:56am

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 7:55am:
Circling Kiev with tanks was never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people.
Dementia Joe, the leader of the free world

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1498883921936887811


Just so. And Putin is the leader of the un-free world.

Guess which American leader is backing him.

You?


Nobody is backing Putin, Khunt.  You are just parroting a lying misrepresentation.


What Trump did say:
“The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling,” he told the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Orlando, Florida, on Saturday night. “It’s an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.

“We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all. As everyone understands, this horrific disaster would never have happened if our election was not rigged and if I was the president.”

“Under Bush, Russia invaded Georgia. Under Obama, Russia took Crimea. Under Biden, Russia invaded Ukraine. I stand as the only president of the 21st century on whose watch Russia did not invade another country.”

“I have no doubt that President Putin made his decision to ruthlessly attack Ukraine only after watching the pathetic withdrawal from Afghanistan, where the military was taken out first, our soldiers were killed and American hostages, plus $85bn worth of the finest equipment anywhere in the world were left behind,” he said.

“The problem is not that Putin is smart – which of course, he’s smart – but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb. They’ve so far allowed him to get away with this travesty and an assault on humanity.”

He added: “So sad. Putin is playing Biden like a drum and it’s not a pretty thing as somebody that loves our country to watch.”
Granuiad







Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 1:19pm

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:56am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 7:55am:
Circling Kiev with tanks was never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people.
Dementia Joe, the leader of the free world

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1498883921936887811


Just so. And Putin is the leader of the un-free world.

Guess which American leader is backing him.

You?


Nobody is backing Putin, Khunt.  You are just parroting a lying misrepresentation.


What Trump did say:
“The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling,” he told the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Orlando, Florida, on Saturday night. “It’s an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.

“We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all. As everyone understands, this horrific disaster would never have happened if our election was not rigged and if I was the president.”

“Under Bush, Russia invaded Georgia. Under Obama, Russia took Crimea. Under Biden, Russia invaded Ukraine. I stand as the only president of the 21st century on whose watch Russia did not invade another country.”

“I have no doubt that President Putin made his decision to ruthlessly attack Ukraine only after watching the pathetic withdrawal from Afghanistan, where the military was taken out first, our soldiers were killed and American hostages, plus $85bn worth of the finest equipment anywhere in the world were left behind,” he said.

“The problem is not that Putin is smart – which of course, he’s smart – but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb. They’ve so far allowed him to get away with this travesty and an assault on humanity.”

He added: “So sad. Putin is playing Biden like a drum and it’s not a pretty thing as somebody that loves our country to watch.”
Granuiad


And under Trump, Russia remained in the Ukraine. He never left. What do you think all those congressional sanctions were about that Dear Leader tried to overturn?

What do you think Dear Leader discussed in his meetings with Vlad?

Oh, that's right. Dear Leader wont say. He refused to release details and had the interpreter's notes destroyed.

Putin is not playing Biden, he's playing the people of the Ukraine. Your Dear Leader says that's genius. Has Dear Leader once offered to deal with Putin? Has he once offered to help Biden negotiate with his self-described friend, Vlad?

No. Imagine if Albanese tried to scores cheap domestic political points over the invasion of the Ukraine. Imagine if he praised Putin and blamed Scomo for Putin's actions. It's unthinkable. And yet, these are the actions of your man, your Dear Leader.

And you support them. Who?

You.

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Frank on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 1:37pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 1:19pm:
Has Dear Leader once offered to deal with Putin? Has he once offered to help Biden negotiate with his self-described friend, Vlad?

No. Imagine if Albanese tried to scores cheap domestic political points over the invasion of the Ukraine. Imagine if he praised Putin and blamed Scomo for Putin's actions. It's unthinkable. And yet, these are the actions of your man, your Dear Leader.

And you support them. Who?

You.



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Oh, Twump is not HELPING sockpuppet Joe!! So cwuel! Such a bwute!! Ohh...!!! :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 2:21pm

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:56am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 7:55am:
Circling Kiev with tanks was never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people.
Dementia Joe, the leader of the free world

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1498883921936887811


Just so. And Putin is the leader of the un-free world.

Guess which American leader is backing him.

You?


Nobody is backing Putin, Khunt.  You are just parroting a lying misrepresentation.


What Trump did say:

“The problem is not that Putin is smart – which of course, he’s smart – but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb.


https://youtu.be/LhZyHIZpzoM

Title: Re: Biden begged Xi to stop Putin
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 5:16pm

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 1:37pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 1:19pm:
Has Dear Leader once offered to deal with Putin? Has he once offered to help Biden negotiate with his self-described friend, Vlad?

No. Imagine if Albanese tried to scores cheap domestic political points over the invasion of the Ukraine. Imagine if he praised Putin and blamed Scomo for Putin's actions. It's unthinkable. And yet, these are the actions of your man, your Dear Leader.

And you support them. Who?

You.



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Oh, Twump is not HELPING sockpuppet Joe!! So cwuel! Such a bwute!! Ohh...!!! :'( :'( :'( :'(


Joe?

I say, didn't you just post Dear Leader's long-winded, unapologetic windback on his statement on the invasion of the Ukraine?

Shurely shome mishtake. You seem to have confused the actions of an American prez with some sort of internet troll, winding up Sleepy Joe in the fake news media.

An easy mishtake to make, no? You thought Putin was dropping eye-rolls and tsk tsks on a sovereign European state.

There there. It happens all the time, no?

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