gotta hand it to pfizer.

they demolish all competition.

roll up for your 4 th experimental vaccine, when an aussie company has been waiting 12 months for approval and has just got fined  ::) ::) ::) ::)



COVAX-19 FAQ

Who is Vaxine?

Vaxine was incorporated in 2002 as an Australian biotechnology company focusing on development of innovative vaccine technologies, with its lead product being its Advax delta inulin adjuvant.

Supported by funding contracts from the National Institutes of Health, Vaxine has developed a broad range of vaccines, all utilizing its Advax adjuvant technology for enhanced immunogenicity and protection. Vaxine’s human candidates include vaccines against seasonal and pandemic influenza, COVID-19, hepatitis B, Japanese encephalitis, West Nile Virus, malaria, rabies, and allergy. Vaxine also has a veterinary division that is commercialising vaccine adjuvants tailored to specific animal health problems.

Vaxine has developed a recombinant protein-based vaccine against COVID-19 which is currently in advanced clinical development and it is hoped this vaccine will achieve emergency use approval in 2022.

You can read more about Vaxine’s projects here.

About the Covax-19 vaccine

How does the Covax-19 vaccine work?

COVAX-19 vaccine is designed to protect against SARS-CoV-2 infection by generation of neutralising antibodies and cellular responses against the virus.

Most recently, a pivotal Phase 3 trial in Iran involving 16,876 participants demonstrated robust protection against the notorious Delta variant.

With these results, in early October 2021 it received market authorisation for emergency use from the Iranian FDA. Already over 2 million doses have been safely distributed by Iranian immunisation centres.

Notably, the Phase 2 trial showed induction of neutralising antibodies against all the major variants of concern indicating very broad cross-protection. In support of this, it provided strong protection against a range of virus variants (Wuhan, Beta, Delta) in animal challenge models, with studies in hamsters, ferrets and monkeys. Notably, it was shown to block SARS-CoV-2 virus shedding from the nose and thereby prevented transmission from challenged to naive animals, a unique finding.

On the safety side, it has been extremely well tolerated with no vaccine-associated serious adverse reactions seen in the clinical trials or in post-market pharmaco-vigilance. Notably, there have been no cases reported of myocarditis/pericarditis, arrythmias or sudden death, or central venous thrombosis.

Are Covax-19 and Novavax the same?

COVAX-19 differs from its USA competitor NOVAVAX in a number of ways.  COVAX-19 is an Australian developed vaccine by an Australian physician and scientist, Prof. Nikolai Petrovsky and his Team at Vaxine Pty Ltd.  Novavax is a US based company who use the full length protein spike whereas COVAX-19 uses a trimmed down protein.  We also use an adjuvant which is like a “turbo-charger” for vaccines which is made from Inulin, a plant fructose.

What is the difference between COVAX-19 and the mRNA vaccines that are currently available in Australia?

Covax-19 is a protein based vaccine.  Protein based vaccines have been around for over 50 years and have had extensive longitudinal studies conducted on them over that period of time.   We know that a protein based vaccine is well tolerated with few side effects.

mRNA vaccines are gene therapies that have only recently been administered to humans, the mRNA.  In this video Rob Malone, the inventor of mRNA explains the mRNA vaccine.

The biotech company run by SA endocrinologist Professor Nikolai Petrovsky has copped a $13,000 fine from the TGA for advertising its unapproved COVID-19 vaccine on Facebook and YouTube.


Professor Nikolai Petrovsky.
Professor Petrovsky developed the two-dose vaccine, COVAX-19, also known as Spikogen, with his company Vaxine 18 months ago.

He says the recombinant, protein-based vaccine has been tested in phase I, II and III trials and is already approved for use in Iran. 

It was granted a provisional determination by the TGA in December, clearing the way for the company to apply for provisional registration.

But on Thursday, the TGA said it had issued an infringement notice after Vaxine “did not adequately address a range of concerns with the social media advertisement communicated earlier by the TGA … by telephone and in writing”.

The TGA did not provide details on what the advertising said.

Got to hand it to the TGA for fining companies for false advertising.

What other agencies do that?

Unless - oh. You don't support fake news, do you?

Naughty naughty, dear.

This should be good news to those who are antivaxx right?

Oh but if I'm reading between the lines correctly, the claim is that Pfizer was controlling the string behind the scenes of the TGA to get them to fine the competition?

Jesus Scoot, get help mate.

Director of Endocrinology at Flinders Medical Centre with a conjoint position as Professor of Medicine at Flinders University, Nikolai Petrovsky is also vice-president and secretary-general of the International Immunomics Society. Active in diabetes, endocrinology and vaccine research, he is the founder of Vaxine, a company funded by the US National Institutes of Health to develop novel vaccine technologies. In 2009 Vaxine won the AMP Innovation Award at the Telstra Business Awards and Australia's Coolest Company Award from Australian Anthill magazine. Nikolai Petrovsky has developed vaccines against influenza, hepatitis b, sting allergy, malaria, japanese encephalitis, rabies and HIV, has authored over 90 papers and chapters and is a regular invited speaker at international vaccine conferences.


But he was not given exemption from Pfizer vaccination even though he innoculated himself with his own COVAX 19.



Only for completely sad mongs is this story about antivaxxers.

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 12:35pm:

This should be good news to those who are antivaxx right? Oh but if I'm reading between the lines correctly, the claim is that Pfizer was controlling the string behind the scenes of the TGA to get them to fine the competition? Jesus Scoot, get help mate.

Excuse I, so Pfizer now controls the TBA?

Oh my, when will it ever end?

I blame the leftards. Typical.

Despicable stuff.

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 12:35pm:

This should be good news to those who are antivaxx right? Oh but if I'm reading between the lines correctly, the claim is that Pfizer was controlling the string behind the scenes of the TGA to get them to fine the competition? Jesus Scoot, get help mate.

Pfizer would have a huge war chest of cash to spend every which way it can to make sure their doses get in arms instead of others.

Do you think that everybody in the command chain of public health is suddenly 100% altruistic and incorruptible?

pfizer are NOT a health care company.

they dont even do their own research.

they give it to sub contractors.

and you better fudge the results the way pfizer wants or they turn off the tap.

a whistleblower explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaLxhFiOBYk

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26th, 2022 at 12:35pm: This should be good news to those who are antivaxx right? Oh but if I'm reading between the lines correctly, the claim is that Pfizer was controlling the string behind the scenes of the TGA to get them to fine the competition? Jesus Scoot, get help mate. Pfizer would have a huge war chest of cash to spend every which way it can to make sure their doses get in arms instead of others. Do you think that everybody in the command chain of public health is suddenly 100% altruistic and incorruptible?

He's got you there, Sad. Do you see? Gordon's joining Aquascoot to suggest that Pfizer, due to their billion-dollar "war chest", have bought out the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration and have paid them to unleash their fury upon their competitors.

CORRUPT! SO UNFAIR! DRAIN THE SWAMP!

Either that, or Gordon's just saying. You know, either/or.

Gordon's no Trump supporter, but you know, we'll have to wait and see what happens.

You?

incorrect.

in fields like virology there is only ONE source of funding

big pharma and big government

if you fall out of sync with big pharma and big government and you are a scientist, good luck getting another job.

companies like pfizer and moderna are more like "project managers"

they just want to make profits and they farm the work out to subbies and if you cost them profit, good luck gettin more work.

fauci restarted the game of function research in wuhan after obama stopped it.

he controls who gets funded and who doesnt with the government cash.

good luck getting funded if you embarrass him

google is the biggest advertising company on the planet. its profits of 180 billion a year are 20 x that of the next biggest.

they make that cash by selling keywords in google search to businesses.

we know pfizer spent 5 billion last year on advertising

they buy up all the favourable keywords like "best vaccine" and "adverse reaction" which would be among the top searches for the last 2 years and they direct traffic to favourable sites.

a journalist exposed that pfizer have AI that can crawl the internet , look for all the favourable pfizer statistics and put articles on the net which are then linked as the number 1 2 and 3 searches.

if you cant see a conflict of interest, you are lying

i now await, some more drivel about me and gordon shovelling horse dung or swinging kettle bells because, lets face it, that all you and marsupial have.

all you can do is to shrill because you are too mentally lazy to dig deeper and see whats going on.

you and the unthinking masses are just lazy.

you just follow the path of least resistance, swallo the company line and respond to authoritarians telling you they will keep you safe because you are scared little men

perfect prawns for the corporate media, big tech industrial complex.
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

aqua sure seems to have a 'thing' for Pfizer lately.

What happened? Did he miss an opportunity to buy shares in them just before the Covid pandemic started or something like that?

Guess he'll just have to keep on selling those $2 bags of horse manure instead. ::)

Carl D wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

aqua sure seems to have a 'thing' for Pfizer lately.

he sold his shares in them just before covid hit and is now resentful ;D ;D ;D ;D

[quote author=aquascoot link=1648196290/9#9 date=1648328213]incorrect.

in fields like virology there is only ONE source of funding

big pharma and big government

if you fall out of sync with big pharma and big government and you are a scientist, good luck getting another job.

companies like pfizer and moderna are more like "project managers"

they just want to make profits and they farm the work out to subbies and if you cost them profit, good luck gettin more work.

fauci restarted the game of function research in wuhan after obama stopped it.

he controls who gets funded and who doesnt with the government cash.

good luck getting funded if you embarrass him

google is the biggest advertising company on the planet. its profits of 180 billion a year are 20 x that of the next biggest.

they make that cash by selling keywords in google search to businesses.

we know pfizer spent 5 billion last year on advertising

they buy up all the favourable keywords like "best vaccine" and "adverse reaction" which would be among the top searches for the last 2 years and they direct traffic to favourable sites.

a journalist exposed that pfizer have AI that can crawl the internet , look for all the favourable pfizer statistics and put articles on the net which are then linked as the number 1 2 and 3 searches.

if you cant see a conflict of interest, you are lying

i now await, some more drivel about me and gordon shovelling horse dung or swinging kettle bells because, lets face it, that all you and marsupial have.

all you can do is to shrill because you are too mentally lazy to dig deeper and see whats going on.

you and the unthinking masses are just lazy.

you just follow the path of least resistance, swallo the company line and respond to authoritarians telling you they will keep you safe because you are scared little men

perfect prawns for the corporate media, big tech industrial complex.
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[/quote]

Excuse I, dear, I'm curious. What do keyword searches have to do with the TGA regulating medicines?

You haven't said.

Karnal wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26th, 2022 at 12:35pm: This should be good news to those who are antivaxx right? Oh but if I'm reading between the lines correctly, the claim is that Pfizer was controlling the string behind the scenes of the TGA to get them to fine the competition? Jesus Scoot, get help mate. Excuse I, so Pfizer now controls the TBA? Oh my, when will it ever end? I blame the leftards. Typical. Despicable stuff.

Just a heads up everyone.

See the above 2 ids? That's just 1 POS using 2 ids to speak to himself. Cheers 👌

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 26th, 2022 at 2:18pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26th, 2022 at 12:35pm: This should be good news to those who are antivaxx right? Oh but if I'm reading between the lines correctly, the claim is that Pfizer was controlling the string behind the scenes of the TGA to get them to fine the competition? Jesus Scoot, get help mate. Excuse I, so Pfizer now controls the TBA? Oh my, when will it ever end? I blame the leftards. Typical. Despicable stuff. Just a heads up everyone. See the above 2 ids? That's just 1 POS using 2 ids to speak to himself. Cheers 👌

She's onto me, leftards, the jig's up. It is I, the diabolical Mustapha Khunt.

See also Arsie, Bwian, Groggy, etc, etc, etc, and some guy who doesn't get along Lisa's hubby. I confess, it is I.

Just think, I would have got away with it if it wasn't for the Superior crime-solving skill of Miss Cute and Cheeky.

Take me away, leftards.

Karnal wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:16pm:

[quote author=aquascoot link=1648196290/9#9 date=1648328213]incorrect. in fields like virology there is only ONE source of funding big pharma and big government if you fall out of sync with big pharma and big government and you are a scientist, good luck getting another job. companies like pfizer and moderna are more like "project managers" they just want to make profits and they farm the work out to subbies and if you cost them profit, good luck gettin more work. fauci restarted the game of function research in wuhan after obama stopped it. he controls who gets funded and who doesnt with the government cash. good luck getting funded if you embarrass him google is the biggest advertising company on the planet. its profits of 180 billion a year are 20 x that of the next biggest. they make that cash by selling keywords in google search to businesses. we know pfizer spent 5 billion last year on advertising they buy up all the favourable keywords like "best vaccine" and "adverse reaction" which would be among the top searches for the last 2 years and they direct traffic to favourable sites. a journalist exposed that pfizer have AI that can crawl the internet , look for all the favourable pfizer statistics and put articles on the net which are then linked as the number 1 2 and 3 searches. if you cant see a conflict of interest, you are lying i now await, some more drivel about me and gordon shovelling horse dung or swinging kettle bells because, lets face it, that all you and marsupial have. all you can do is to shrill because you are too mentally lazy to dig deeper and see whats going on. you and the unthinking masses are just lazy. you just follow the path of least resistance, swallo the company line and respond to authoritarians telling you they will keep you safe because you are scared little men perfect prawns for the corporate media, big tech industrial complex. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[/quote] Excuse I, dear, I'm curious. What do keyword searches have to do with the TGA regulating medicines? You haven't said.

oh thats quite simple.
google ,as the biggest surviellance and manipulation platform in the history of planet earth, a rich company like pfizer can buy up the keywords and direct traffic where ever the big spenders want.

and guess who can control politicians by manipulating the way stories appear in searches?  you think politicians arent terrified of google and do what they are told.

and you think the people in the TGA arent under the control of their political masters?


as a matter of interest , no american politicians has spoken out about google.

they leave that to brussells




Google has lost its appeal against a €2.42 billion antitrust fine imposed by the European Commission in relation to its shopping service.

The ruling was delivered by the European General Court (EGC), the lower tribunal of the Court of Justice of the European Union, which decided to uphold the fine.


"Evidence shows that even the most highly ranked rival service appears on average only on page four of Google's search results, and others appear even further down," the Commission said in 2017, when it announced the huge fine.

Brussels estimates that 95% of clicks go to the ten highest-ranking results on the first page, with those on the second page receiving just 1% of attention.

Condemning rival services to near-absolute obscurity breaches EU competition rules and distorts the internal market, the executive argued.

"What Google has done is illegal under EU antitrust rules. It denied other companies the chance to compete on the merits and to innovate.

i'll simplify that for you because you dont understand business


google control peoples opinions

their biggest advertisors understand this

politicians are terrified of google

people who work for the TGA obey their political masters.


so its not the science that is shaping peoples opinions.
its whoever pays google the most.
hence the billions in anti trust fines the EU gave google.
fines that wont be repeated by any US politicians because if they upset google, every story about them on the net will be negative.

see how this works

I see. Thanks for simplifying that one, dear. Basically, it goes like this.

Pfizer buy words on Google.

Google say thank you, then call up Canberra, long distance from California.

Greg Hunt's secretary answers the phone, hears the pips and realises it's important. She puts the call straight through to his office.

Google catch Greg Hunt practicing his putting, wearing his boxers (he wants to keep the crease in his trousers for an important meeting).

Greggy, Google says, how's things Down Under?

Greggy complains about the voters being ungrateful and public servants slacking off, the usual stuff. Google tells Greggy to come join the private sector. Greggy says his doctor's been saying that for years, it might bring his blood pressure down.

Google says Greggy would know, he's the health minister. They both have a chuckle about that.

Google gets down to business. Listen, Google says, you know that new vaccine, the Aussie one?

Greggy doesn't know.

Google tells him it's becoming a bit of a problem for friends of theirs, can he put a ban on it?

Well, you can't just ban stuff, Greggy says, it's complicated. Anyway, the doctors do all that stuff, he just signs off on it.

Okay, so can he make things difficult?

Greggy asks if Google means, like, take them out?

No, nothing like that, Google says, that would be against the code of ethics. No, more like fine them for false advertising, something like that.

Oh, okay, Greggy says, sounding relieved. Sure. He could make something up, issue a thirty thousand dollar fine. Would that help?

Perfect, Google says. That'll keep our friends happy. How's the putting going?

Oh, Greggy lies, he has no time for any of that...

Well, you'd better make time, Google says. We have some important friends we'd like to bring down. They'll want to try your Royal Canberra golf course. Our shout.

No worries, Greggy says. It'll take his mind off the election. Just as he starts on that, Google cuts him off.

Keep your chin up, Greggy, we don't want to deal with those leftards after the next election, you look after yourself.

Oh, listen, Greggy says, I need to fix the words, "Australian Health Department". Every time you Google it, some strange website shows up.

Better try Sales, Greggy, they'll sort you out. We'll talk soon, okay?

Google hangs up. Greggy finds himself talking to a bot who wants to rate the quality of his call.

Give it a go, dear. Google Australian health department. What do you get?

That's Google for you, no? How diabolically cunning can you get?

Karnal wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 7:40pm:

I see. Thanks for simplifying that one, dear. Basically, it goes like this. Pfizer buy words on Google. Google say thank you, then call up Canberra, long distance from California. Greg Hunt's secretary answers the phone, hears the pips and realises it's important. She puts the call straight through to his office. Google catch Greg Hunt practicing his putting, wearing his boxers (he wants to keep the crease in his trousers for an important meeting). Greggy, Google says, how's things Down Under? Greggy complains about the voters being ungrateful and public servants slacking off, the usual stuff. Google tells Greggy to come join the private sector. Greggy says his doctor's been saying that for years, it might bring his blood pressure down. Google says Greggy would know, he's the health minister. They both have a chuckle about that. Google gets down to business. Listen, Google says, you know that new vaccine, the Aussie one? Greggy doesn't know. Google tells him it's becoming a bit of a problem for friends of theirs, can he put a ban on it? Well, you can't just ban stuff, Greggy says, it's complicated. Anyway, the doctors do all that stuff, he just signs off on it. Okay, so can he make things difficult? Greggy asks if Google means, like, take them out? No, nothing like that, Google says, that would be against the code of ethics. No, more like fine them for false advertising, something like that. Oh, okay, Greggy says, sounding relieved. Sure. He could make something up, issue a thirty thousand dollar fine. Would that help? Perfect, Google says. That'll keep our friends happy. How's the putting going? Oh, Greggy lies, he has no time for any of that... Well, you'd better make time, Google says. We have some important friends we'd like to bring down. They'll want to try your Royal Canberra golf course. Our shout. No worries, Greggy says. It'll take his mind off the election. Just as he starts on that, Google cuts him off. Keep your chin up, Greggy, we don't want to deal with those leftards after the next election, you look after yourself. Oh, listen, Greggy says, I need to fix the words, "Australian Health Department". Every time you Google it, some strange website shows up. Better try Sales, Greggy, they'll sort you out. We'll talk soon, okay? Google hangs up. Greggy finds himself talking to a bot who wants to rate the quality of his call. Give it a go, dear. Google Australian health department. What do you get? That's Google for you, no? How diabolically cunning can you get?

Incoherent gibberish from a grimacing Paki, holding his hand out for '10 rupees gimme' and a banana. Two bananas.

go to your computer and google

'australian made covid vaccine"

i got

1 How will Novavax fit into Australia's COVID-19 vaccine ...

2 Partnership secures Australian-made mRNA vaccines - Prime ...https://www.pm.gov.au › media › partnership-secures-a...
3 days ago — (an article about the federal government and moderna

3 Australian-made coronavirus vaccine COVAX-19 shows ...https://www.theaustralian.com.au › science
13 Aug 2021 — An Australian-made vaccine named COVAX-19 has progressed to the final stages of a human clinical trial, after strong preliminary results


4 Development of unique Australian COVID-19 vaccine haltedhttps://www.science.org › content › article › development...
The "molecular clamp" technology behind the Australian vaccine was developed by researchers at the University of Queensland (UQ) with support from the ..


5 Australia's vaccine agreements - Australian Government ...https://www.health.gov.au › about-rollout › vaccine-agree...
Currently the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is the only vaccine that we can manufacture in Australia. Distribution of the locally made doses is ongoing.



so the first 5 articles make no mention of any australian made vaccine apart from AZ which we no longer make and an article from last year saying trials were halted (they werent)

you think maybe the covax people just arent paying google enough cash ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:

go to your computer and google 'australian made covid vaccine" i got 1 How will Novavax fit into Australia's COVID-19 vaccine ... 2 Partnership secures Australian-made mRNA vaccines - Prime ...https://www.pm.gov.au › media › partnership-secures-a... 3 days ago — (an article about the federal government and moderna 3 Australian-made coronavirus vaccine COVAX-19 shows ...https://www.theaustralian.com.au › science 13 Aug 2021 — An Australian-made vaccine named COVAX-19 has progressed to the final stages of a human clinical trial, after strong preliminary results 4 Development of unique Australian COVID-19 vaccine haltedhttps://www.science.org › content › article › development... The "molecular clamp" technology behind the Australian vaccine was developed by researchers at the University of Queensland (UQ) with support from the .. 5 Australia's vaccine agreements - Australian Government ...https://www.health.gov.au › about-rollout › vaccine-agree... Currently the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is the only vaccine that we can manufacture in Australia. Distribution of the locally made doses is ongoing. so the first 5 articles make no mention of any australian made vaccine apart from AZ which we no longer make and an article from last year saying trials were halted (they werent) you think maybe the covax people just arent paying google enough cash ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Strange. All I got was media reports of an Australian made vaccine. Number 1:


Quote:

Two new Australian-made COVID-19 vaccines will soon enter trials with the hopes they will provide more targeted protection against the virus. These so-called "super vaccines" will be produced by the Doherty Institute, and the other by Monash University. Both have been made and developed in Melbourne.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-update-two-australian-made-covid19-super-vaccines-enter-trial-phase/507a2551-39ff-49e7-a973-b24938211faa

All news articles on this vaccine for the first page. I stopped looking after that.

But I have a question of my own if you don't mind.

When Google tells the politicians what to do, what do the politicians say back?

Cheers.

Frank wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 7:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 27th, 2022 at 7:40pm: I see. Thanks for simplifying that one, dear. Basically, it goes like this. Pfizer buy words on Google. Google say thank you, then call up Canberra, long distance from California. Greg Hunt's secretary answers the phone, hears the pips and realises it's important. She puts the call straight through to his office. Google catch Greg Hunt practicing his putting, wearing his boxers (he wants to keep the crease in his trousers for an important meeting). Greggy, Google says, how's things Down Under? Greggy complains about the voters being ungrateful and public servants slacking off, the usual stuff. Google tells Greggy to come join the private sector. Greggy says his doctor's been saying that for years, it might bring his blood pressure down. Google says Greggy would know, he's the health minister. They both have a chuckle about that. Google gets down to business. Listen, Google says, you know that new vaccine, the Aussie one? Greggy doesn't know. Google tells him it's becoming a bit of a problem for friends of theirs, can he put a ban on it? Well, you can't just ban stuff, Greggy says, it's complicated. Anyway, the doctors do all that stuff, he just signs off on it. Okay, so can he make things difficult? Greggy asks if Google means, like, take them out? No, nothing like that, Google says, that would be against the code of ethics. No, more like fine them for false advertising, something like that. Oh, okay, Greggy says, sounding relieved. Sure. He could make something up, issue a thirty thousand dollar fine. Would that help? Perfect, Google says. That'll keep our friends happy. How's the putting going? Oh, Greggy lies, he has no time for any of that... Well, you'd better make time, Google says. We have some important friends we'd like to bring down. They'll want to try your Royal Canberra golf course. Our shout. No worries, Greggy says. It'll take his mind off the election. Just as he starts on that, Google cuts him off. Keep your chin up, Greggy, we don't want to deal with those leftards after the next election, you look after yourself. Oh, listen, Greggy says, I need to fix the words, "Australian Health Department". Every time you Google it, some strange website shows up. Better try Sales, Greggy, they'll sort you out. We'll talk soon, okay? Google hangs up. Greggy finds himself talking to a bot who wants to rate the quality of his call. Give it a go, dear. Google Australian health department. What do you get? That's Google for you, no? How diabolically cunning can you get? Incoherent gibberish from a grimacing Paki, holding his hand out for '10 rupees gimme' and a banana. Two bananas.

Frank's not allowed to say, Aquascoot. I wonder why that is.

The jig's up, old boy, we know what's going on.

Google have bought all your words.

Karnal wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:21pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 27th, 2022 at 7:47pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 27th, 2022 at 7:40pm: I see. Thanks for simplifying that one, dear. Basically, it goes like this. Pfizer buy words on Google. Google say thank you, then call up Canberra, long distance from California. Greg Hunt's secretary answers the phone, hears the pips and realises it's important. She puts the call straight through to his office. Google catch Greg Hunt practicing his putting, wearing his boxers (he wants to keep the crease in his trousers for an important meeting). Greggy, Google says, how's things Down Under? Greggy complains about the voters being ungrateful and public servants slacking off, the usual stuff. Google tells Greggy to come join the private sector. Greggy says his doctor's been saying that for years, it might bring his blood pressure down. Google says Greggy would know, he's the health minister. They both have a chuckle about that. Google gets down to business. Listen, Google says, you know that new vaccine, the Aussie one? Greggy doesn't know. Google tells him it's becoming a bit of a problem for friends of theirs, can he put a ban on it? Well, you can't just ban stuff, Greggy says, it's complicated. Anyway, the doctors do all that stuff, he just signs off on it. Okay, so can he make things difficult? Greggy asks if Google means, like, take them out? No, nothing like that, Google says, that would be against the code of ethics. No, more like fine them for false advertising, something like that. Oh, okay, Greggy says, sounding relieved. Sure. He could make something up, issue a thirty thousand dollar fine. Would that help? Perfect, Google says. That'll keep our friends happy. How's the putting going? Oh, Greggy lies, he has no time for any of that... Well, you'd better make time, Google says. We have some important friends we'd like to bring down. They'll want to try your Royal Canberra golf course. Our shout. No worries, Greggy says. It'll take his mind off the election. Just as he starts on that, Google cuts him off. Keep your chin up, Greggy, we don't want to deal with those leftards after the next election, you look after yourself. Oh, listen, Greggy says, I need to fix the words, "Australian Health Department". Every time you Google it, some strange website shows up. Better try Sales, Greggy, they'll sort you out. We'll talk soon, okay? Google hangs up. Greggy finds himself talking to a bot who wants to rate the quality of his call. Give it a go, dear. Google Australian health department. What do you get? That's Google for you, no? How diabolically cunning can you get? Incoherent gibberish from a grimacing Paki, holding his hand out for '10 rupees gimme' and a banana. Two bananas. Frank's not allowed to say, Aquascoot. I wonder why that is. The jig's up, old boy, we know what's going on. Google have bought all your words.

Wonderful, wonderful Pakistan, innit.

Oh, yes.

Karnal wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 27th, 2022 at 8:32pm: go to your computer and google 'australian made covid vaccine" i got 1 How will Novavax fit into Australia's COVID-19 vaccine ... 2 Partnership secures Australian-made mRNA vaccines - Prime ...https://www.pm.gov.au › media › partnership-secures-a... 3 days ago — (an article about the federal government and moderna 3 Australian-made coronavirus vaccine COVAX-19 shows ...https://www.theaustralian.com.au › science 13 Aug 2021 — An Australian-made vaccine named COVAX-19 has progressed to the final stages of a human clinical trial, after strong preliminary results 4 Development of unique Australian COVID-19 vaccine haltedhttps://www.science.org › content › article › development... The "molecular clamp" technology behind the Australian vaccine was developed by researchers at the University of Queensland (UQ) with support from the .. 5 Australia's vaccine agreements - Australian Government ...https://www.health.gov.au › about-rollout › vaccine-agree... Currently the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is the only vaccine that we can manufacture in Australia. Distribution of the locally made doses is ongoing. so the first 5 articles make no mention of any australian made vaccine apart from AZ which we no longer make and an article from last year saying trials were halted (they werent) you think maybe the covax people just arent paying google enough cash ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Strange. All I got was media reports of an Australian made vaccine. Number 1: Quote: Two new Australian-made COVID-19 vaccines will soon enter trials with the hopes they will provide more targeted protection against the virus. These so-called "super vaccines" will be produced by the Doherty Institute, and the other by Monash University. Both have been made and developed in Melbourne. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-update-two-australian-made-covid19-super-vaccines-enter-trial-phase/507a2551-39ff-49e7-a973-b24938211faa All news articles on this vaccine for the first page. I stopped looking after that. But I have a question of my own if you don't mind. When Google tells the politicians what to do, what do the politicians say back? Cheers.

when google has an agenda or should i say when big tech has an agenda, politicians fall in line or their voive disappears.

in the lead up to 2020, the NY Post, americas oldest newspaper broke the story on the hunter biden laptop.

google put that story on a blacklist.

search for it and it didnt exist.

when big tech decided they were backing biden, they sent voting reminders to all their customers if they were democrat, on the day of the election.

dont be a simpleton now and say "how would they know which way you vote", they read every email.

trump, when he was still president was banned from twitter and facebook.

imagine if an energy company shut off his power or a bank cut off his credit card becasue they didnt like his politics.

who is the biggest donor to the biden campaign...big tech .

dont believe they have blacklists?

educate yourself


1. What is Google Blacklist?
It’s a common misconception that when a user enters a search query, Google immediately searches the live Internet to find the best results for the query.

That’s actually not how the process works.

Instead, when a query is entered by a user, Google searches its own database, referred to as an index, for the most suitable results to the query.

The Google index is what drives every search result.

The Google Blacklist (or, as some call it, the “blocklist”) is a completely different kind of website database that Google maintains. This database is comprised of all websites that Google, other search engines, and even antivirus companies, all consider as unsafe to use for the general public.

Because of the sheer volume of websites filling the Internet, it would be impossible for Google to compile an index of unsafe sites with a manual process. Instead, it employs crawlers, bots, and other proprietary tools that independently explore websites and add dangerous ones to the blacklist index.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Oh? When that story broke, there were more Google pages on Hunter Biden's laptop than there are Aussie vaccines, dear.

You know that, you searched for them and read them.

The MSM cancelled that story because Legal jumped on them, including Newsmax and Fox News. The story was all over Google, which cant be sued for news content. Tucker said he pulled the story because he didn't want to see Hunter "doing anything silly".

Now thanks for the answer, but is there anyway you could provide a little more detail?

Do Australian politicians actually speak with Google employees? How does your proposal play out?

Cheers.

when the employees of big tech can determine the outcome of elections, they dont need to speak to them. they*the politicians)  already know they better not step out of line.

the left are happy that google rehashed its searches to only display favourable stories about biden

the left are happy searches for trump were negative stories.

the left were happy trumps account whilst he was still president was cancelled by facebook and twitter.

the left are happy big tech is amongst the most woke of industries.

but one wonders if the left will feel the same way if someone who wants to do real reform , tax big tech and look after the workers , someone like a bernie sanders , is put in charge.

his ideas would represent a real threat to amazons anti union stance
to apples off-shoring of profits
to googles tech monopoly.

one might find it is some one like bernie having the search engine manipulated to demolish him.

the tide can turn, be careful what you wish for

big tech wont always be the propaganda mind control instrument on "your side" in perpetiutiy

Sorry, dear, you're not answering the question.

You're saying Google don't actually speak to Australian politicians, but these politicians somehow know what is expected of them - by a search engine.

Can you describe how this plays out? This is, after all, perhaps the most important political issue there is. You're saying that our elected representatives directly report to Google.

Not their lobbyists - not fossil fuels or big pharma or the weapons industry or various conservative think tanks, etc, etc, and certainly not their voters (this is a given).

No, you're saying Australian politicians are directly answerable to Sundar Pichai and his team over in Mountain View, California.

So again, can you explain how this works? A scenario would be great. I've provided a considerably detailed example below.

No references to what "the left" want please, dear. We're not talking about them.

Karnal wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 2:16pm:

Sorry, dear, you're not answering the question. You're saying Google don't actually speak to Australian politicians, but these politicians somehow know what is expected of them - by a search engine. Can you describe how this plays out? This is, after all, perhaps the most important political issue there is. You're saying that our elected representatives directly report to Google. Not their lobbyists - not fossil fuels or big pharma or the weapons industry or various conservative think tanks, etc, etc, and certainly not their voters (this is a given). No, you're saying Australian politicians are directly answerable to Sundar Pichai and his team over in Mountain View, California. So again, can you explain how this works? A scenario would be great. I've provided a considerably detailed example below. No references to what "the left" want please, dear. We're not talking about them.

i'll try again for a slow learner

no politician in australia is going to go against googles narrative (currently the woke narrative which is a cover for the monopolistic big profits for big tech).

they understand this

if scomo said

we are going to tax google or if biden said google are interfering in our politics, then when you went to google search , all that would be prioritised would be negative articles.

you do googles and facebooks bidding or they deplaform you and amplify negative press.

is THAT simple enough for you  ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 28th, 2022 at 2:16pm: Sorry, dear, you're not answering the question. You're saying Google don't actually speak to Australian politicians, but these politicians somehow know what is expected of them - by a search engine. Can you describe how this plays out? This is, after all, perhaps the most important political issue there is. You're saying that our elected representatives directly report to Google. Not their lobbyists - not fossil fuels or big pharma or the weapons industry or various conservative think tanks, etc, etc, and certainly not their voters (this is a given). No, you're saying Australian politicians are directly answerable to Sundar Pichai and his team over in Mountain View, California. So again, can you explain how this works? A scenario would be great. I've provided a considerably detailed example below. No references to what "the left" want please, dear. We're not talking about them. i'll try again for a slow learner no politician in australia is going to go against googles narrative (currently the woke narrative which is a cover for the monopolistic big profits for big tech). they understand this if scomo said we are going to tax google or if biden said google are interfering in our politics, then when you went to google search , all that would be prioritised would be negative articles. you do googles and facebooks bidding or they deplaform you and amplify negative press. is THAT simple enough for you  ::) ::) ::)

I'm sorry, dear, that doesn't explain your claim. You're saying Google had the Aussie vax fined by the Therapeutic Goods Administration after Pfizer paid them off.

To date, the only evidence you've provided is false Google search results and your thoughts on what "the left" want in America.

You then went broader, issuing vague generalisations about "propaganda", "mind control" and "controlling the narrative",  but still not providing any evidence for your claim.

So let's start again. You're here, on a public forum, claiming that Google, on behalf of Pfizer, had the TGA issue a fine against an Aussie drug company. Here's what the TGA have to say about it:


Quote:

Vaxine Pty Ltd fined $13,320 for alleged unlawful advertising of an unapproved COVID-19 vaccine The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has issued an infringement notice for $13,320 to Vaxine Pty Ltd for advertising a COVID-19 vaccine in alleged breach of the Therapeutic Goods Act 1989 (the Act). The infringement notice was issued as in TGA’s view the company did not adequately address a range of concerns with the social media advertisement communicated earlier by the TGA to the Director of Vaxine Pty Ltd by telephone and in writing.

https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/vaxine-pty-ltd-fined-13320-alleged-unlawful-advertising-unapproved-covid-19-vaccine

You'll find it in the first link of the following Google search:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tga+australia+fine+australian+covid+vaccination+for+false+advertising&oq=tga+australia+fine+australian+covid+vaccination+for+false+advertising&aqs=chrome..69i57.21168j0j7

Now, you have one of two options. You can froth away about fake news/so unfair before running off from your own thread, or you can provide us with some evidence for your claim.

What's it going to be?

mustafa believes the following to be true

1  pfizer are a group of scientists who want everyone to enjoy perfect health, so they never need to consume a pharmaceutical.  they have no interest in profit.

2  google are like your school librarian. all they want to do is provide you with high quality unbiased information. they have no interest in tracking you and manipulating you and profiting off that surveillance and manipulation.

3 the TGA are a group of incorruptable saints who care not about their mortgages and job security. if they want to embarrass their employers (big pharma and the government) then they are going to do it and to hell with the consequences

4  facebook is a company that wants to create community spirit. despite the fact that controversy attracts more views , they are not interested in more money from views. they just want everyone to get along.


pfizer, google , the health authorities and facebook are determined to usher in the utopia. their is not a self interested bone in their body.

by obeying them , we are being virtuous and improving our social credit score.

we can become "superior men" with no more effort then sending out a few virtuous tweets and hitting the thumbs up button

Sorry, Aquascoot, none of that is true, as everybody knows.

Now, look, if you don't want to answer the question, just say okay, all good, you just meant to fake it.

You are naughty, but we'll forgive you this time, okay?

If you were being sincere, and trying to be an even bigger faker, just say ah, okay?

No worries, we'll understand. We'll await your jolly reply, no?

Cheers.

INCORRECT


it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them.


at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there)

decisions like who wins an election
which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified
will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms.

thats not a democracy my friend.
thats not free speech
thats not science
thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale.


whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality.

it is, in no way different from the CCP.

the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line

Why is the standard response to "do you have evidence for your claim?" always something like "Do you think Pfizer is pure of heart" and of course not, they're a product of the system many people complaining about have not only been voting for decades but defending to death here too.

But how does that equate to evidence of the claims?

It doesn't.

It's the typical conspiracy nonsense that "if I can catch you saying X to something it, it makes my Y right".

You still need to prove Y and if you cannot, just be honest about it.

Scoot and honesty, lol...

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 5:19am:

INCORRECT it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them. at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there) decisions like who wins an election which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms. thats not a democracy my friend. thats not free speech thats not science thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale. whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality. it is, in no way different from the CCP. the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line

So you're for government regulation of private industry now?

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 7:10am:

So you're for government regulation of private industry now?

Stupid question. Everyone is for government regulation of private industries, including you.

Banks, media, telecom, chemical and pharma, manufacturing, agriculture, food processkng, etc, etc - all are regulated.

Don't be SO daft.

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 7:10am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 5:19am: INCORRECT it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them. at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there) decisions like who wins an election which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms. thats not a democracy my friend. thats not free speech thats not science thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale. whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality. it is, in no way different from the CCP. the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line So you're for government regulation of private industry now?

Incorrect

Regulations can't possibly work

When Google Facebook Amazon and Microsoft are way more powerful than government
No government would be willing or indeed able to regulate them
That ship has sailed

The only hope for a free and open and democratic society would be for each individual to educate themselves and take personal responsibility for understanding the surveillance and manipulation machine that is currently controlling their lives

A few individuals will be capable of this

But most people are just tired beaten down
Disengaged
And more than happy to OPT into the great reset

They will be stimulated
They will be manipulated
They will follow the path of least resistance
They will assume as little responsibility for themselves as they can get away with
They are more than happy to just be poked prodded and pleasured

Big tech hasn't really enslaved them in a false reality

They have enslaved themselves

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 5:19am:

INCORRECT it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them. at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there) decisions like who wins an election which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms. thats not a democracy my friend. thats not free speech thats not science thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale. whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality. it is, in no way different from the CCP. the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line

I see. So your evidence is it will become obvious. Eventually.

The Superior Man just states his case and runs off, no?

Strange. He used to worship his fridge as a symbol of science, reason, honesty and integrity.

Now he just waffles about mind control. Do you know?

I think the Superior Man has changed. What did it, do you think?

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:40am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 7:10am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 5:19am: INCORRECT it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them. at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there) decisions like who wins an election which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms. thats not a democracy my friend. thats not free speech thats not science thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale. whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality. it is, in no way different from the CCP. the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line So you're for government regulation of private industry now? Incorrect Regulations can't possibly work When Google Facebook Amazon and Microsoft are way more powerful than government No government would be willing or indeed able to regulate them That ship has sailed The only hope for a free and open and democratic society would be for each individual to educate themselves and take personal responsibility for understanding the surveillance and manipulation machine that is currently controlling their lives A few individuals will be capable of this But most people are just tired beaten down Disengaged And more than happy to OPT into the great reset They will be stimulated They will be manipulated They will follow the path of least resistance They will assume as little responsibility for themselves as they can get away with They are more than happy to just be poked prodded and pleasured Big tech hasn't really enslaved them in a false reality They have enslaved themselves

But we're trying to be educated, dear. We keep asking, but you don't want to say.

Karnal wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 8:40am: SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 7:10am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 5:19am: INCORRECT it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them. at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there) decisions like who wins an election which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms. thats not a democracy my friend. thats not free speech thats not science thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale. whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality. it is, in no way different from the CCP. the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line So you're for government regulation of private industry now? Incorrect Regulations can't possibly work When Google Facebook Amazon and Microsoft are way more powerful than government No government would be willing or indeed able to regulate them That ship has sailed The only hope for a free and open and democratic society would be for each individual to educate themselves and take personal responsibility for understanding the surveillance and manipulation machine that is currently controlling their lives A few individuals will be capable of this But most people are just tired beaten down Disengaged And more than happy to OPT into the great reset They will be stimulated They will be manipulated They will follow the path of least resistance They will assume as little responsibility for themselves as they can get away with They are more than happy to just be poked prodded and pleasured Big tech hasn't really enslaved them in a false reality They have enslaved themselves But we're trying to be educated, dear. We keep asking, but you don't want to say.

incorrect.

very few people including you are "trying to be educated'

you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions"

feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable

being self reliant and resilient is not.

feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable.

people get addicted to that.  they love it.

I don't know why you waste your time with them scoot.
These clowns will go to the grave fast asleep. Most humans do.





You dumb front bottoms want proof?
Turn off all social media, MSM.... everything for 5...FIVE....years.
Live like a human being should, not how you're told to.
It becomes as plain as the nose on your own face as to what is going on in your disneyland of propaganda.
Those that do, will thank me.
Those that don't... Go eat a dick! 

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 4:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 3:32pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 8:40am: SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 7:10am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 5:19am: INCORRECT it will become obvious , eventually, that companies like google , amazon, microsoft and facebook are the most powerful surviellance and manipulation platforms ever developed and that the mainstream masses are incapable of dealing with them. at that point (and it is my belief that we are already there) decisions like who wins an election which products will be glorified and which products will be vilified will be made wholely and solely by the programmers on these platforms. thats not a democracy my friend. thats not free speech thats not science thats ideology , bribery, corruption and manipulation on a massive scale. whoever is running google, microsoft, amazon, twitter , you tube , facebook and apple is deciding on YOUR reality. it is, in no way different from the CCP. the heads of those corporations are unelected and in complete control and woe behold anyone who steps out of line So you're for government regulation of private industry now? Incorrect Regulations can't possibly work When Google Facebook Amazon and Microsoft are way more powerful than government No government would be willing or indeed able to regulate them That ship has sailed The only hope for a free and open and democratic society would be for each individual to educate themselves and take personal responsibility for understanding the surveillance and manipulation machine that is currently controlling their lives A few individuals will be capable of this But most people are just tired beaten down Disengaged And more than happy to OPT into the great reset They will be stimulated They will be manipulated They will follow the path of least resistance They will assume as little responsibility for themselves as they can get away with They are more than happy to just be poked prodded and pleasured Big tech hasn't really enslaved them in a false reality They have enslaved themselves But we're trying to be educated, dear. We keep asking, but you don't want to say. incorrect. very few people including you are "trying to be educated' you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions" feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable being self reliant and resilient is not. feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable. people get addicted to that.  they love it.

Oh? You're the one pretending the Therapeutic Goods Administration's managed by Google, dear.

Just when we thought we'd seen the lot with Nail and his ridiculous claims, along comes you. And do you know?

We patiently tell you, time after time, you're backing the wrong horse here. Putin's no Alpha hero, we say, he's a cunt. Dear Leader's not going to make America great again, he's going to raise the debt, suck up to dictators, lose all credibility, and ultimately, go down in a reckless act of self-sabotage.

We told you all this well in advance dear, you remember. We also advised you to take your vax.

No, you said, I shall send it to the "noble Gurkha", who feeds his kids a bowl of dirt a day. I am far superior to the leftard chode, you said, I shall sacrifice myself for the tinted races. It's just the kind of chap I am.

No you won't, we said, you'll take it and be good about it, then you'll turn into a silly old anti-vaxxer.

Never, you said, I shall do no such thing.

And here you are, a Kool Aid-swallowing anti-vaxxer conspiritard, making up stories about Pfizer getting Google to... on and on you go, creating an endless web of stories, all of it a form of shrill, feverous masturbation, desperate to feel superior to the chodes, who as you say, live lives of pure garbage.

Oh well, you can't say we didn't warn you, no?

Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 5:00pm:

I don't know why you waste your time with them scoot. These clowns will go to the grave fast asleep. Most humans do. You dumb front bottoms want proof? Turn off all social media, MSM.... everything for 5...FIVE....years. Live like a human being should, not how you're told to. It becomes as plain as the nose on your own face as to what is going on in your disneyland of propaganda. Those that do, will thank me. Those that don't... Go eat a dick!

Captain hasn't read your claim, Aquascoot. He actually has no idea what you're talking about, and yet, he's agrees.

How's that for being self reliant and resilient?

Do you want to virtue signal him back?

Frank wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:39am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 7:10am: So you're for government regulation of private industry now? Stupid question. Everyone is for government regulation of private industries, including you.

Correct, I am, but you're missing the point, don't be So daft.


Quote:

Banks, media, telecom, chemical and pharma, manufacturing, agriculture, food processkng, etc, etc - all are regulated. Don't be SO daft.

But all those people supporting conservative politics and advocating the cutting of "red" and "green" tape etc or pushing the notion that the private sector can do everything better, they're actually not for government regulation of private industry and will actually call anyone who is a socialist or communist.

It's these people now who are complaining the loudest about the likes of Pfizer but because they can't admit the positions they've taken has led to this, meaning they were wrong, they're going full conspiracy tard to save face.

All that does is helps the status quo remain.

The problems won't get fixed.

They have the choice to take it on the chin and support meaningful action to reign in these enormous and overly politically influential mega-corporations, or they can have a sook about it online, blaming everyone else but them and their political ideology.

And by and large they've chosen the latter,


aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:40am:

Regulations can't possibly work

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 4:17pm:

incorrect. very few people including you are "trying to be educated' you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions" feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable being self reliant and resilient is not. feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable. people get addicted to that.  they love it.

Do you mean like how you have gone full conspiracy nut, chasing that high of being right even when you're not? 

Yearning for those pleasurable emotions and being stimulated by feeling safe and nurtured by the people telling you what you want to hear?

Is that why when you cite pre-print research papers that you've misrepresented the meaning and the author no less has to come out to debunk the conclusions you've reached (or the ones others reached and fed to you and you accepted without question because it's what you wanted to hear), you refuse to admit you were wrong and ghost the thread?

It's not very pleasurable being wrong, but it's a great opportunity to learn more.

But you won't ever do that because despite your words, you are not in fact resilient and can't acknowledge your mistake and you choose the easy road, the cowardly way out because you're addicted to that the safe space you've created for yourself.

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SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 9:52am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 4:17pm: incorrect. very few people including you are "trying to be educated' you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions" feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable being self reliant and resilient is not. feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable. people get addicted to that.  they love it. Do you mean like how you have gone full conspiracy nut, chasing that high of being right even when you're not?  Yearning for those pleasurable emotions and being stimulated by feeling safe and nurtured by the people telling you what you want to hear? Is that why when you cite pre-print research papers that you've misrepresented the meaning and the author no less has to come out to debunk the conclusions you've reached (or the ones others reached and fed to you and you accepted without question because it's what you wanted to hear), you refuse to admit you were wrong and ghost the thread? It's not very pleasurable being wrong, but it's a great opportunity to learn more. But you won't ever do that because despite your words, you are not in fact resilient and can't acknowledge your mistake and you choose the easy road, the cowardly way out because you're addicted to that the safe space you've created for yourself. https://www.nerdfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/morpheus.gif

incorrect.

do you think google are like a public librarain, just serving up unbiased information.

its not a conspiracy theory to point out that is not the case.

no public librarain makes 200 billion a year  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30th, 2022 at 9:52am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 4:17pm: incorrect. very few people including you are "trying to be educated' you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions" feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable being self reliant and resilient is not. feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable. people get addicted to that.  they love it. Do you mean like how you have gone full conspiracy nut, chasing that high of being right even when you're not?  Yearning for those pleasurable emotions and being stimulated by feeling safe and nurtured by the people telling you what you want to hear? Is that why when you cite pre-print research papers that you've misrepresented the meaning and the author no less has to come out to debunk the conclusions you've reached (or the ones others reached and fed to you and you accepted without question because it's what you wanted to hear), you refuse to admit you were wrong and ghost the thread? It's not very pleasurable being wrong, but it's a great opportunity to learn more. But you won't ever do that because despite your words, you are not in fact resilient and can't acknowledge your mistake and you choose the easy road, the cowardly way out because you're addicted to that the safe space you've created for yourself. https://www.nerdfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/morpheus.gif incorrect. do you think google are like a public librarain, just serving up unbiased information. its not a conspiracy theory to point out that is not the case. no public librarain makes 200 billion a year  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No, dear, but then, no public librarian controls the TGA, no?

Do you mind if I ask - which other agencies does Google have control over? We dare not mention the diabolical Fauci, but does Google get other state agencies to issue fines against Pfizer's competitors?

How about NSW Transport? How about the NSW Roads and Transport Authority? Wait - how about the despicable Australian Tax Office?

The leftards love that, yes? I say Google gets them to fine people who haven't yet deferred to Pfizer. Could you provide some evidence for that too?

Cheers.

Karnal wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 11:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 30th, 2022 at 3:13pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30th, 2022 at 9:52am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 4:17pm: incorrect. very few people including you are "trying to be educated' you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions" feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable being self reliant and resilient is not. feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable. people get addicted to that.  they love it. Do you mean like how you have gone full conspiracy nut, chasing that high of being right even when you're not?  Yearning for those pleasurable emotions and being stimulated by feeling safe and nurtured by the people telling you what you want to hear? Is that why when you cite pre-print research papers that you've misrepresented the meaning and the author no less has to come out to debunk the conclusions you've reached (or the ones others reached and fed to you and you accepted without question because it's what you wanted to hear), you refuse to admit you were wrong and ghost the thread? It's not very pleasurable being wrong, but it's a great opportunity to learn more. But you won't ever do that because despite your words, you are not in fact resilient and can't acknowledge your mistake and you choose the easy road, the cowardly way out because you're addicted to that the safe space you've created for yourself. https://www.nerdfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/morpheus.gif incorrect. do you think google are like a public librarain, just serving up unbiased information. its not a conspiracy theory to point out that is not the case. no public librarain makes 200 billion a year  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No, dear, but then, no public librarian controls the TGA, no? Do you mind if I ask - which other agencies does Google have control over? We dare not mention the diabolical Fauci, but does Google get other state agencies to issue fines against Pfizer's competitors? How about NSW Transport? How about the NSW Roads and Transport Authority? Wait - how about the despicable Australian Tax Office? The leftards love that, yes? I say Google gets them to fine people who haven't yet deferred to Pfizer. Could you provide some evidence for that too? Cheers.

its interesting you mention the tax office.

bernie sanders looked likely to win the 2020 nomination until he proposed increasing taxes on the big tech companies.

bezos (googles biggest partner) wasnt very happy with that and neither was zuckerburg or gates.

did you notice how google and microsoft were ALWAYS in the courts 10 years ago suing each other.

and yet now, no lawsuits for a decade.
best buddies  ;D ;D.

so, along comes bernie and he is going to tweak the tax system(as you said).

not gunna happen.

google and their mates got behind Jo who is a perfect patsy.

not one negative story was allowed on facebook about Jo and hunter biden
you posted it, you got shut down.
you searched for it in the run up to 2020 election and you wouldnt find it.
you would find a politifact site calling ti fake news.

you really arent so stupid as to think google which makes 150 billion a year doesnt manipulate searches to favour their friends  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

have you done the simple task of asking the "librarian" to suggest something starting with the letter A.

did you get amazon as a suggestion, even if you have NEVER shopped there  ;D ;D ;D ;D

try T, you'll get target.

its rivers of gold for google to manipulate YOUR reality

aquascoot wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

incorrect. do you think google are like a public librarain, just serving up unbiased information. its not a conspiracy theory to point out that is not the case. no public librarain makes 200 billion a year  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You're blurring the lines as usual.

We've covered the issues with the digital gatekeepers and "big tech" before, but that's got nothing to do with this thread unless you're leaning into your all-purpose plan b.

And as usual, you've got yourself tangled up in a web of competing conspiracies.  I know I know, I used the C-word, don't get triggered just yet, let me explain.

Your claim was that Pfizer had some influence over the TGA in fining a competitor of theirs when it comes to COVID-19 vaccines.

First of all, that should be a point of celebration since you're against the vaccines now, but that's the first part of the web you've got yourself in. 

No, but instead, you're pushing aside your hate for vaccines to focus on Pfizer and the claim that they are so big they're able to influence the TGA to fine a competitor.

When asked for the evidence you bring out the all-purpose plan B, that is, the evidence is being hidden by Big Tech because they're also in on it with Pfizer, one "Big" happy family.

But another part of the web you've got yourself tangled in is the fact that the ads for the competitor that got them fined were running on Google and Facebook platforms.

Every time you introduce a new layer of complexity to your conspiracy you end up shooting yourself in the foot.

And what will you do next, you'll start a new post saying "incorrect" and then add yet another layer to the conspiracy?

We're still at the starting blocks mate.  It looks like the TGA did their job and fined a company for making unproven claims about a vaccine they're developing. 

This should be music to your antivax ears, but you're so far down in the rabbit hole you don't even know what you're looking for anymore.

So you try to shoehorn it into your Big Pharma argument about Pfizer.

And the worst part is, you're now disagreeing with me over something we actually agree on, Pfizer is bad.

Just because I want some evidence to support your claim before I start to believe it, because it is a big claim, the TGA is controlled by Pfizer, you say I'm pro-Pfizer, or pro-Google etc...

Just cite your sources.  It's so much easier than this back and forth and in the end, you'll just end up changing the subject and/or ghosting the thread.

And if you're upfront about not having any evidence and that it's merely something that could be possible, then just say that.  If it's you're opinion that's fine.  But claiming it's a fact, that's where you keep getting yourself in trouble.

You're just like Master Light, and I don't think you realise the significance and the depth of that insult.

incorrect.

my point was an aussie vaccine maker gets fined for advertising

pfizer spends 5 billion advertising, mainly by getting google and facebook to "help their narrative' (which is ADVERTISING) and they get applause.

the unthinking masses just find it easier not to think about the MASSIVE misinformation and disinformation available to a company that spends 5 billion on promotion.

coca cola spends about the same on "coke adds life"

am i a conspiracy theorist for questioning whether "coke really adds life" ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 12:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 30th, 2022 at 11:25pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 30th, 2022 at 3:13pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30th, 2022 at 9:52am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2022 at 4:17pm: incorrect. very few people including you are "trying to be educated' you are trying to be 'stimulated'  and you are trying to feel 'pleasurable emotions" feeling safe and nurtured is pleasurable being self reliant and resilient is not. feeling "outraged' is also pleasurable. people get addicted to that.  they love it. is that why when you cite pre-print research papers that you've misrepresented the meaning and the author no less has to come out to debunk the conclusions you've reached (or the ones others reached and fed to you and you accepted without question because it's what you wanted to hear), you refuse to admit you were wrong and ghost the thread? incorrect. No, dear, but then, no public librarian controls the TGA, no? Do you mind if I ask - which other agencies does Google have control over? We dare not mention the diabolical Fauci, but does Google get other state agencies to issue fines against Pfizer's competitors? How about NSW Transport? How about the NSW Roads and Transport Authority? Wait - how about the despicable Australian Tax Office? The leftards love that, yes? I say Google gets them to fine people who haven't yet deferred to Pfizer. Could you provide some evidence for that too? Cheers. its interesting you mention the tax office. bernie sanders looked likely to win the 2020 nomination until he proposed increasing taxes on the big tech companies. bezos (googles biggest partner) wasnt very happy with that and neither was zuckerburg or gates. did you notice how google and microsoft were ALWAYS in the courts 10 years ago suing each other. and yet now, no lawsuits for a decade. best buddies  ;D ;D. so, along comes bernie and he is going to tweak the tax system(as you said). not gunna happen. google and their mates got behind Jo who is a perfect patsy. not one negative story was allowed on facebook about Jo and hunter biden you posted it, you got have you done the simple task of asking the "librarian" to suggest something starting with the letter A. did you get amazon as a suggestion, even if you have NEVER shopped there  ;D ;D ;D ;D try T, you'll get target. its rivers of gold for google to manipulate YOUR reality

Incorrect.

Here's Bezos supporting higher taxes.


Quote:

In a surprising turn, Amazon's founder and CEO has endorsed President Joe Biden's tax hike meant to pay for overhauling US infrastructure.

https://m.dw.com/en/amazons-jeff-bezos-says-he-supports-paying-higher-taxes/a-57116163

Here's Zuckerberg.


Quote:

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has expressed his support to international reforms that would require Silicon Valley tech giants to pay more tax in Europe. At the Munich Security Conference on Friday, February 14, Zuckerberg said he accept Facebook may have to pay more tax under new tax reforms.

https://dig.watch/updates/facebook-expresses-its-intention-pay-more-digital-tax/#:~:text=Facebook%20CEO%20Mark%20Zuckerberg%20has,tax%20under%20new%20tax%20reforms.

Here's Zuckerberg and Gates and all the gang:


Quote:

A 70% marginal tax rate. A 77% estate tax. A 3% tax on every dollar over $1 billion of net worth. As various plans to tax the ultra-rich gain steam in American political discourse—and after a recent bombshell report that the 400 richest Americans paid a lower tax rate than other income groups last year—many billionaires have been challenged to address their very existence amid growing income inequality. At least a dozen billionaires have made public statements that call for the super-rich to pay more in taxes.  On Monday, Salesforce chairman and cofounder Marc Benioff penned the latest in a string of billionaire op-eds calling for higher taxes on the wealthy. The California software entrepreneur, who ranked No. 93 on The Forbes 400 list of richest Americans released earlier this month, wrote that “increasing taxes on high-income individuals like myself would help generate the trillions of dollars that we desperately need to improve education and health care and fight climate change.” He’s not the only billionaire pushing to pay more. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, the No. 2 and 3 wealthiest Americans, are the richest supporters of the estate tax, which is levied on the assets of people who have died. Buffett advocated for a higher tax on the wealth years ago and in 2017 said on CNBC that the proposed elimination of the estate tax was  “a terrible mistake". Gates in February called himself “the biggest proponent of having the estate tax collect more money.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cartercoudriet/2019/10/15/billionaires-more-taxes-gates-buffett-bloomberg/?sh=7417d2e67792

The rich want to pay more tax, dear. Buffet's even formed a lobby group to do so. It's the chodes who want to pay no tax. No names, dear, you know. Lives of pure garbage.

But do you know? All these articles and all these facts may just be Google, mixing up the words. I searched billionaires trying to pay less tax, like you said. All I got was them trying to pay more.

So unfair, no?

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 1:58pm:

incorrect. my point was an aussie vaccine maker gets fined for advertising

Oh, is that all?

Sorry, dear. We thought you were saying Pfizer told Google to tell our politicians to tell the TGA to fine an Aussie vax company.

Silly old us, no? Turns out you were just saying, that's all.

My apologies, dear. Next time, we'll try to clarify first, okay?

Google must have mixed you all up.

Typical.