;D

https://youtu.be/vyS9uqRLbB8

I guess he meant to say that solar panels on the roof of the house save the householder electricity costs in charging an electric vehicle. The car is on the charger during the night, but also when you are not using it during the day.

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:30pm:

I guess he meant to say that solar panels on the roof of the house save the householder electricity costs in charging an electric vehicle. The car is on the charger during the night, but also when you are not using it during the day.

Well, most people drive their cars to work in the day so they'd need a pretty long extension cord to charge it from their rooftop panels. I guess if you're getting feed in then suck it back out at night? Or maybe he was thinking about a $15K powerwall?

Either way, if he's doing Biden level gaffs now, gawd help us if he's PM

Must be hard reading between lines  ::)

Most people know that battery banks around the suburbs will be come the new normal

Labor majority government wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:48pm:

Must be hard reading between lines  ::)

Gotta excuse gordie, he's from the eastern suburbs you know.
Down in that area that selected scummo as a member. ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLONWy46gIE

Gordon wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:37pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 5th, 2022 at 6:30pm: I guess he meant to say that solar panels on the roof of the house save the householder electricity costs in charging an electric vehicle. The car is on the charger during the night, but also when you are not using it during the day. Well, most people drive their cars to work in the day so they'd need a pretty long extension cord to charge it from their rooftop panels. I guess if you're getting feed in then suck it back out at night? Or maybe he was thinking about a $15K powerwall?

My parents installed rooftop solar panels to help cut their electricity bills. So, I do not know how it works. I am guessing that when you get up in the morning and go to work, you have had 2 or 3 hours of daylight charging the panels and holding off the power from the grid. It was a bit of a learning curve to find out a blackout to the power grid did not mean that solar panels would take over producing the power needed in a home.

My car stays under the house for most of the day. I would be drawing recharging power from the solar panels for most of my car's recharge. At night, I suppose Albanese would mean stored energy to do the night time recharge.


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Either way, if he's doing Biden level gaffs now, gawd help us if he's PM

I said to Dad, if Morrison was still PM for the time of the election, I would consider voting ALP. But this sort of thing would make me wonder who gets my vote.

Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D

This one went well  ;D

Bam wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:37pm:

Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D

yes,  the minerals needed to create batteries are good news for the urban leftie elite,  not so good for the planet  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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like labor said

"no child should live in poverty"  (except black children)

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Bam wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:37pm:

Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D

Albo was the one who didn't mention batteries  :)

What about all the lower income unit dwellers who can't take advantage of solar panels?

Let them eat cake

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Bam wrote on Apr 5th, 2022 at 11:37pm: Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D Albo was the one who didn't mention batteries  :)

Do you really expect politicians to explain every detail in every 15-second sound bite?

Bam wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 9:24am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 7:57am: Bam wrote on Apr 5th, 2022 at 11:37pm: Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D Albo was the one who didn't mention batteries  :) Do you really expect politicians to explain every detail in every 15-second sound bite?

Yes, details matter.

Now what of the poor to middle income unit dwellers who can't do solar or people who can't afford 15k for a powewall?

aquascoot wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 5:22am:

Bam wrote on Apr 5th, 2022 at 11:37pm: Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D yes,  the minerals needed to create batteries are good news for the urban leftie elite,  not so good for the planet  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Except... erh... you erh also need batteries for non electric cars.... so its even worse....

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 9:29am:

Bam wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 9:24am: Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 7:57am: Bam wrote on Apr 5th, 2022 at 11:37pm: Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D Albo was the one who didn't mention batteries  :) Do you really expect politicians to explain every detail in every 15-second sound bite? Yes, details matter. Now what of the poor to middle income unit dwellers who can't do solar or people who can't afford 15k for a powewall?

I'm sure you won't be bothered what the poor can afford  ;D, this is a really dumb thread

What's the problem here?

The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight.

What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/

Can anyone point me to the bit where Albo mentioned anything about batteries?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 11:43am:

What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/

And how much does a storage battery cost?
is it $10,000  ?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:43am: What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/ And how much does a storage battery cost? is it $10,000  ?

Tesla Powerwall 2 is about $15000.00
Not much for low income earners.

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:43am: What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/ And how much does a storage battery cost? is it $10,000  ? Tesla Powerwall 2 is about $15000.00 Not much for low income earners.

Albo has those low income earners in mind.   :-[

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:20pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:02pm: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1649145513/18#18 date=1649209384] What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/ And how much does a storage battery cost? is it $10,000  ? Tesla Powerwall 2 is about $15000.00 Not much for low income earners.

Albo has those low income earners in mind.   :-[/quote]

In the US, Kamala is telling poor people who can't afford the high gas prices to go buy a Telsa.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/11/let_them_drive_teslas_147314.html

What's the problem here?

The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the system charges the car battery overnight.

What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?

I don't quite get what this thread is trying to say.

Solar panels on your roof charging your vehicle for free overnight. :)

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:46pm:

What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the system charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title? I don't quite get what this thread is trying to say.

You could also install charging stations at workplaces....Some Electric Trucks have batteries that can be exchanged in as little as 4 minutes....The only limitations is a lack of commitment and urgency from all Coalition Governments....Business is leading the way whilst Scummo denies all allegations his party members have thrown at him while doing endless photo shoots at taxpayers expense....Once the Election is called the party must pay for this crap???

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philperth2010 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 5:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:46pm: What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the system charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title? I don't quite get what this thread is trying to say. You could also install charging stations at workplaces....Some Electric Trucks have batteries that can be exchanged in as little as 4 minutes....The only limitations is a lack of commitment and urgency from all Coalition Governments....Business is leading the way whilst Scummo denies all allegations his party members have thrown at him while doing endless photo shoots at taxpayers expense....Once the Election is called the party must pay for this crap??? ::) ::) ::)

Australia has close, if not the highest solar generation per capita.

How did that happen?

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:54pm:

Solar panels on your roof charging your vehicle for free overnight. :)

Yep.  Pretty sweet.

Or charge your car during the day - whenever you like.  Who cares?

Not my thing, though - I still prefer a petrol-guzzling internal combustion V8.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:46pm:

What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the system charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title? I don't quite get what this thread is trying to say.

Albo made out that you could charge your batteries at night which
is false unless you have an expensive battery at your house.

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 9:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 5:22am: Bam wrote on Apr 5th, 2022 at 11:37pm: Poor Gordon. He doesn't know that batteries exist.  ;D yes,  the minerals needed to create batteries are good news for the urban leftie elite,  not so good for the planet  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Except... erh... you erh also need batteries for non electric cars.... so its even worse....

small lead acid batteries.


lithium ion batteries take lithium, the mining of which is catastrophic




In May 2016, dead fish were found in the waters of the Liqi River, where a toxic chemical leaked from the Ganzizhou Rongda Lithium mine. Cow and yak carcasses were also found floating downstream, dead from drinking contaminated water. It was the third incident in seven years due to a sharp increase in mining activity, including operations run by China’s BYD, one of the world’ biggest supplier of lithium-ion batteries. After the second incident in 2013, officials closed the mine, but fish started dying again when it reopened in April 2016.

Lithium prices doubled between 2016 and 2018 due to exponentially increasing demand. The lithium ion battery industry is expected to grow from 100 gigawatt hours of annual production in 2017 to almost 800 gigawatt hours in 2027. Part of that phenomenal demand increase dates back to 2015 when the Chinese government announced a huge push towards electric vehicles in its 13th Five Year Plan. The battery of a Tesla Model S, for example, has about 12 kilograms of lithium in it; grid storage needed to help balance renewable energy would need a lot more lithium given the size of the battery required.

Processing of Lithium Ore

The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium. To extract lithium, miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface. After several months the water evaporates, leaving a mixture of manganese, potassium, borax and lithium salts which is then filtered and placed into another evaporation pool. After between 12 and 18 months of this process, the mixture is filtered sufficiently that lithium carbonate can be extracted.

South America’s Lithium Triangle, which covers parts of Argentina, Bolivia and Chile, holds more than half the world’s supply of the metal beneath its salt flats. But it is also one of the driest places on earth. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, mining activities consumed 65 percent of the region’s water, which is having a large impact on local farmers to the point that some communities have to get water elsewhere.

As in Tibet, there is the potential for toxic chemicals to leak from the evaporation pools into the water supply including hydrochloric acid, which is used in the processing of lithium, and waste products that are filtered out of the brine. In Australia and North America, lithium is mined from rock using chemicals to extract it into a useful form. In Nevada, researchers found impacts on fish as far as 150 miles downstream from a lithium processing operation.

Lithium extraction harms the soil and causes air contamination. In Argentina’s Salar de Hombre Muerto, residents believe that lithium operations contaminated streams used by humans and livestock and for crop irrigation. In Chile, the landscape is marred by mountains of discarded salt and canals filled with contaminated water with an unnatural blue hue. According to Guillermo Gonzalez, a lithium battery expert from the University of Chile, “This isn’t a green solution – it’s not a solution at all.”

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Can anyone point me to the bit where Albo mentioned anything about batteries?

sorry, Albo's comments weren't directed at moronic libtards. They were directed at people who can think for themselves and therefore don't need basic concepts explained to them.

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 3:46pm: Can anyone point me to the bit where Albo mentioned anything about batteries? sorry, Albo's comments weren't directed at moronic libtards. They were directed at people who can think for themselves and therefore don't need basic concepts explained to them.

Were they directed at low income Labor voters who can't afford a house let alone  solar panels, a tesla power wall and an electric car?

I guess he's speaking to inner city lefty elites.

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 6:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 6:07pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 3:46pm: Can anyone point me to the bit where Albo mentioned anything about batteries? sorry, Albo's comments weren't directed at moronic libtards. They were directed at people who can think for themselves and therefore don't need basic concepts explained to them. Were they directed at low income Labor voters who can't afford a house let alone  solar panels, a tesla power wall and an electric car? I guess he's speaking to inner city lefty elites.

well if you can't afford a house then solar panels won't help you now will they

Perhaps he should have done what scummo did and told them to buy a house instead of whinging about what they can't afford ::)..

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 6:23pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 6:07pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 3:46pm: Can anyone point me to the bit where Albo mentioned anything about batteries? sorry, Albo's comments weren't directed at moronic libtards. They were directed at people who can think for themselves and therefore don't need basic concepts explained to them. Were they directed at low income Labor voters who can't afford a house let alone  solar panels, a tesla power wall and an electric car? I guess he's speaking to inner city lefty elites. well if you can't afford a house then solar panels won't help you now will they Perhaps he should have done what scummo did and told them to buy a house instead of whinging about what they can't afford ::)..

Did he tell them to buy a house, or extend the loan guarantee scheme which will help many to buy a house?

I know you have the intellect of two people, so I'm sure you'll understand the difference.

https://i.ibb.co/qyGK4Sg/Roger-Ballen-Dresie-and-Casie-Twins-Western-Transvaal-1993-printed-2001.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:43am: What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/ And how much does a storage battery cost? is it $10,000  ?

It would be more than $10K for a battery with capapcity to charge a car or for one Tesla Powerwall.

A Tesla Powerwall 2 has 13 Kwh battery
The Tesla model 3 has 62 Kwh battery.

How many powerwall batteries do you need to half charge a basic Tesla without running anything else in your home?

The Lithium batteries are like the battery in phones and laptops how long do they last? Is it 2000-3000 cycles depending on depth of discharge?

To make Lithium batteries last longer they should only be charged to 90% which means you lose 10% of advertised capacity.

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:20pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 4:02pm: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1649145513/18#18 date=1649209384] What's the problem here? The solar panels absorb the sunlight during the day, and then the electricity stored in the battery storage unit charges the car battery overnight. What's with the "midnight sun" in the thread title?   :-/ And how much does a storage battery cost? is it $10,000  ? Tesla Powerwall 2 is about $15000.00 Not much for low income earners. Albo has those low income earners in mind.   :-[/quote] In the US, Kamala is telling poor people who can't afford the high gas prices to go buy a Telsa. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/11/let_them_drive_teslas_147314.html

It shows how out of touch leftist politicians are.

If you can't afford gas you can't afford a Tesla.