For people like Unsub who think that by exercising he can counter the effects of the crap he eats .......... bad news buddy


Quote:

Vigorous exercise is not enough to counteract the health effects of a poor diet, new study finds There is bad news for anyone who thinks vigorous exercise can compensate for a diet that favours junk food over fruit and veg. Research led by the University of Sydney found intense exercise does not counteract the detrimental effects of a poor diet on a person's mortality risk. The study found people who had high levels of physical activity as well as a high-quality diet had the lowest risk of death, showing you can not outrun a poor diet. Researchers examined the independent and joint effects of diet and exercise on cardiovascular disease, cancer and all-cause mortality using 360,600 British adults from the UK Biobank. The UK Biobank is a large-scale study containing in-depth biological, behavioural, and health information from participants. High-quality diets included at least five portions of fruit and vegetables every day, two portions of fish per week and lower consumption of red meat, particularly processed meat. For those who had high levels of physical activity as well as a high-quality diet, their mortality risk was reduced by 17 per cent from all causes, 19 per cent from cardiovascular disease and 27 per cent from selected cancers — compared with those with the worst diet who were physically inactive. Lead author Melody Ding said there was no escaping the conclusion that "both regular physical activity and a healthy diet play an important role in promoting health and longevity". "Some people may think they could offset the impacts of a poor diet with high levels of exercise or offset the impacts of low physical activity with a high-quality diet, but the data shows that unfortunately, this is not the case," Dr Ding said. Research fellow at the Alliance for Research in Exercise, Nutrition and Activity at the University of South Australia, Dot Dumuid, wasn't involved in the study but credited its large dataset for providing robust evidence. She highlighted that the study found there was still some benefit in either exercising or eating a high-quality diet. "The group that had high activity and not the good diet still had a reduced risk of death," Dr Dumuid said.  Dr Dumuid said the study left room to explore more indicators of a low-quality diet including sugary or high-energy foods. She said it was important to remember the study focused on the outcome of premature death. "There's alot of life to be lived before premature death so there's quality of life and enjoyment and happiness," Dr Dumuid said. "There's things that need to be explored more... finding that balance and the compromise." A small number of studies have previously found that high-intensity exercise may counteract detrimental physiological responses to overeating. However, Dr Ding said the latest study reinforced the importance of both physical activity and diet quality for reducing the risk of death. The study is published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-13/vigorous-exercise-cant-outrun-a-poor-diet/101233744


Exercising alone helps with some stuff, but if you want to improve your longevity, you need a good diet.

John Smith wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:31pm:

For people like Unsub who think that by exercising he can counter the effects of the crap he eats .......... bad news buddy Quote: Vigorous exercise is not enough to counteract the health effects of a poor diet, new study finds There is bad news for anyone who thinks vigorous exercise can compensate for a diet that favours junk food over fruit and veg. Research led by the University of Sydney found intense exercise does not counteract the detrimental effects of a poor diet on a person's mortality risk. The study found people who had high levels of physical activity as well as a high-quality diet had the lowest risk of death, showing you can not outrun a poor diet. Researchers examined the independent and joint effects of diet and exercise on cardiovascular disease, cancer and all-cause mortality using 360,600 British adults from the UK Biobank. The UK Biobank is a large-scale study containing in-depth biological, behavioural, and health information from participants. High-quality diets included at least five portions of fruit and vegetables every day, two portions of fish per week and lower consumption of red meat, particularly processed meat. For those who had high levels of physical activity as well as a high-quality diet, their mortality risk was reduced by 17 per cent from all causes, 19 per cent from cardiovascular disease and 27 per cent from selected cancers — compared with those with the worst diet who were physically inactive. Lead author Melody Ding said there was no escaping the conclusion that "both regular physical activity and a healthy diet play an important role in promoting health and longevity". "Some people may think they could offset the impacts of a poor diet with high levels of exercise or offset the impacts of low physical activity with a high-quality diet, but the data shows that unfortunately, this is not the case," Dr Ding said. Research fellow at the Alliance for Research in Exercise, Nutrition and Activity at the University of South Australia, Dot Dumuid, wasn't involved in the study but credited its large dataset for providing robust evidence. She highlighted that the study found there was still some benefit in either exercising or eating a high-quality diet. "The group that had high activity and not the good diet still had a reduced risk of death," Dr Dumuid said.  Dr Dumuid said the study left room to explore more indicators of a low-quality diet including sugary or high-energy foods. She said it was important to remember the study focused on the outcome of premature death. "There's alot of life to be lived before premature death so there's quality of life and enjoyment and happiness," Dr Dumuid said. "There's things that need to be explored more... finding that balance and the compromise." A small number of studies have previously found that high-intensity exercise may counteract detrimental physiological responses to overeating. However, Dr Ding said the latest study reinforced the importance of both physical activity and diet quality for reducing the risk of death. The study is published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-13/vigorous-exercise-cant-outrun-a-poor-diet/101233744 Exercising alone helps with some stuff, but if you want to improve your longevity, you need a good diet.

Quite simply, excercise makes you hungry.  It can only help you lose weight if you starve yourself.  I lost 30kg through diet with just daily walking for exercise

The article presents a few numbers, but I don't think any of them are relevant to the headline.

The obese are no more than chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage.

Deplorable stuff.

Unless you're a celebrity real estate heir with a reality TV show and a series of ghost-written self help books. Then you've overcome a significant handicap to become an alleged rapist and twice-impeached prez.

Totally awesome, no?

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 6:02pm:

The obese are no more than chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage. Deplorable stuff. Unless you're a celebrity real estate heir with a reality TV show and a series of ghost-written self help books. Then you've overcome a significant handicap to become an alleged rapist and twice-impeached prez. Totally awesome, no?

How fat are you, Mustafaken?

I've known this for years.

About ten years ago I started to develop a slight pot belly.

I kept on the same diet, but walked 5kms every morning and 5kms every night.

Results after 18 months: no change at all.

So, I eliminated potatoes, pasta, rice, and bread from my diet and stopped the walks.

Nek minnit!

Beer-gut is gone, and my BMI is 22

I drink beer and wine, I eat bacon and eggs, and I don't do any planned exercise.

I'm in perfect physical shape, and have a cardio calcium score of zero.

Exercise is great, but it won't take off the excess kilos.

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 6:02pm: The obese are no more than chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage. Deplorable stuff. Unless you're a celebrity real estate heir with a reality TV show and a series of ghost-written self help books. Then you've overcome a significant handicap to become an alleged rapist and twice-impeached prez. Totally awesome, no? How fat are you, Mustafaken?

Fat enough to plough you, old boy.

Hit a nerve, have we?

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 6:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 6:13pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 6:02pm: The obese are no more than chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage. Deplorable stuff. Unless you're a celebrity real estate heir with a reality TV show and a series of ghost-written self help books. Then you've overcome a significant handicap to become an alleged rapist and twice-impeached prez. Totally awesome, no? How fat are you, Mustafaken? Fat enough to plough you, old boy. Hit a nerve, have we?

Lol   ;D

John Smith wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 2:31pm:

For people like Unsub who think that by exercising he can counter the effects of the crap he eats .......... bad news buddy

Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. Having just finished a 4km ruck walk last night after eating probably the fattiest meal I have had in a long time, I can tell you that can you burn off much the same calories that you have eaten. Except, that you are likely to store the bad nutrition for a while longer.

If you eat a healthy meal day in and day out, exercise comes much easier for you. If you eat an unhealthy meal for some of your meals, exercise becomes a little more arduous for you. If you want to lose weight, a healthy meal will burn off the excess weight a lot easier than an unhealthy meal. If you have an unhealthy meal and feel like you need to burn off the excess calories, exercise will probably leave you to maintain a similar weight.

The only real difference between a healthy meal and an unhealthy meal is that if you are active, you are more likely to give up on an activity sooner than if you have consumed an unhealthy meal. But, that does not mean that you cannot lose weight through exercise, regardless of what you eat.

exercise pumps oxygen thru the brain.
daily walks reduce your risk of alzheimers (a circulation issue) by 50 %.

exercise , walking, jogging, skiing, rowing gets you into a flow state .
this reduces cortisol which is a major contributor to diabetes, cancer and cardiovascular disease.

your knees, hips, back and shoulders need fluid to circulate thru the joint to nourish and heal them. if you sit on your phone all day, not eating, you can gaurantee you will get a faster degeneration of mobility in these joints. you may be skinny but you will be in pain.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 11:08pm:

Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain.

the argument isn't about weight gain

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 9:25am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain

You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 9:25am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain

Implicitly, it is.

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 6:02pm:

The obese are no more than chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage. Deplorable stuff. Unless you're a celebrity real estate heir with a reality TV show and a series of ghost-written self help books. Then you've overcome a significant handicap to become an alleged rapist and twice-impeached prez. Totally awesome, no?

Our friend told us that - it's all about doughnuts:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 5:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title.

learn to read.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read.

OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 6:28pm:

I've known this for years. About ten years ago I started to develop a slight pot belly. I kept on the same diet, but walked 5kms every morning and 5kms every night. Results after 18 months: no change at all. So, I eliminated potatoes, pasta, rice, and bread from my diet and stopped the walks. Nek minnit! Beer-gut is gone, and my BMI is 22 I drink beer and wine, I eat bacon and eggs, and I don't do any planned exercise. I'm in perfect physical shape, and have a cardio calcium score of zero. Exercise is great, but it won't take off the excess kilos.

You dont have to completely remove the bread if you eat whole grains. Same with pasta. getting wholegrain bread is hard though - if you look at the ingredients a lot of them are like 10% wholegrains the rest crap.

Spot

processed carbs are generally not good.
bread and pasta make peoples bodies and brains sluggish
they are short chain starches easily turned into glucose

you are much better off with a banana , an orange and a mango if you want something carb

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 7:22pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read. OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it.

Reading it is not your problem, understanding what is written is your problem. You're like a 4 yr old that can read the words, but has no idea what it means.

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 8:26pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 7:22pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read. OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it. Reading it is not your problem, understanding what is written is your problem. You're like a 4 yr old that can read the words, but has no idea what it means.

OK then, you quote the evidence, then tell us what it means.

Or just continue evading like you usually do.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 5:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 6:28pm: I've known this for years. About ten years ago I started to develop a slight pot belly. I kept on the same diet, but walked 5kms every morning and 5kms every night. Results after 18 months: no change at all. So, I eliminated potatoes, pasta, rice, and bread from my diet and stopped the walks. Nek minnit! Beer-gut is gone, and my BMI is 22 I drink beer and wine, I eat bacon and eggs, and I don't do any planned exercise. I'm in perfect physical shape, and have a cardio calcium score of zero. Exercise is great, but it won't take off the excess kilos. You dont have to completely remove the bread if you eat whole grains. Same with pasta. getting wholegrain bread is hard though - if you look at the ingredients a lot of them are like 10% wholegrains the rest crap. Spot

Yeah, I just pretty much avoid bread altogether.

I never have it in my house, but I might have some garlic bread at a restaurant now and then.

I eat a pasta meal maybe once a fortnight now, and the same with rice.

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 7:22pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read. OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it.

I quoted the story ... it's up to you to read it and form your own opinion. I'm not supposed to bottle feed you

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 8:26pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 7:22pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read. OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it. I quoted the story ... it's up to you to read it and form your own opinion. I'm not supposed to bottle feed you

My opinion is that you have not presented any evidence to back up your thread title, and you are too slow to even realise.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 6:13pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 8:26pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 7:22pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read. OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it. I quoted the story ... it's up to you to read it and form your own opinion. I'm not supposed to bottle feed you My opinion is that you have not presented any evidence to back up your thread title, and you are too slow to even realise.

Opinions are like arse holes. Another thing you have something in common with

Would you like to quote the relevant bit that you think backs up your thread title?

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 6:13pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 8:26pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 7:22pm: freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain You have not presented any evidence to back up your claim in the thread title. learn to read. OK, let's give it a go. You quote the evidence, and I will read it. I quoted the story ... it's up to you to read it and form your own opinion. I'm not supposed to bottle feed you My opinion is that you have not presented any evidence to back up your thread title, and you are too slow to even realise.

Well - yes - but that's a given...

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 7:14pm:

Would you like to quote the relevant bit that you think backs up your thread title?

Are you incapable of reading it and drawing your own conclusions?

John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 7:14pm: Would you like to quote the relevant bit that you think backs up your thread title? Are you incapable of reading it and drawing your own conclusions?

I told you what my conclusion is. Do you need me to repeat it?

Did you get all excited about proving unsub wrong and forget to check whether the article actually says what you think it says?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:02am:

I told you what my conclusion is. Do you need me to repeat it?

then why do you need my validation?

I want to know if you understand that you have not presented any evidence to support your thread title. Or if you even know how to check.

Do you understand John?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:17am:

I want to know if you understand that you have not presented any evidence to support your thread title. Or if you even know how to check. Do you understand John?

I don't need to present evidence FD. I've said my piece in my OP. I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other. You're free to form your own opinion. You're a big boy, you can do it.

I am not asking you to present evidence. I am asking whether you understand that you have not. Let's try again.

Do you understand John?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:34am:

I am not asking you to present evidence. I am asking whether you understand that you have not. Let's try again. Do you understand John?

It is you who doesn't understand. Even my 10 yr old would have got it by now.

I don't give a rats arse what evidence you think I have or haven't put up. I've said what my opinion is. Agree with it, disagree with it, I don't care. I'm not interested in convincing you of anything . If you disagree with what I said don't read it, or better yet, here's a novel idea for you, put up your own opinion on the article. I don't care either way.

I am also not saying I disagree with what you said John. Let's try again.

Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:45am:

I am also not saying I disagree with what you said John. Let's try again. Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

FMD I've seen dog poo smarter than you.

A. That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact
B. I'm not interested in convincing you either way so you're welcome to keep your opinion, I won't lose a second off sleep over it.
C. You're an idiot

Quote:

That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact

What is your opinion John?

Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:49am:

Quote: That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact What is your opinion John?

Are you refering to  the opinion i put in the OP?
or this opinion?


John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:48am:

FMD I've seen dog poo smarter than you

or this one?

John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:48am:

C. You're an idiot

you'll have to be more specific

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:49am:

Quote: That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact What is your opinion John? Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

This is why debating the right is a waste of time.  Illiteracy

Sure. Let me get out the crayons.


freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:49am:

Quote: That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact What is your opinion John? Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:52am:

Sure. Let me get out the crayons. freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:49am: Quote: That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact What is your opinion John? Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

one more time for the retarded


John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:48am:

FMD I've seen dog poo smarter than you. A. That you think I haven't posted evidence is YOUR opinion, not fact B. I'm not interested in convincing you either way so you're welcome to keep your opinion, I won't lose a second off sleep over it. C. You're an idiot

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14^th, 2022 at 6:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 9:25am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2022 at 11:08pm: Rubbish. Empirical evidence supports my theory that exercise after consuming a poor diet does help counteract weight gain. the argument isn't about weight gain Implicitly, it is.

It's about weight loss.  Did you go to school?

Do you understand this question John?

Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:59am:

Do you understand this question John? Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

so cry about it. ::)

It's just two simple questions.

Do you understand this question John?

Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 11:59am:

Do you understand this question John? Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title?

Define fascism.  Do you understand you've not tried to define fascism? Do you understand you called me a fascist and ran crying when I asked you to explain how I was a fascist?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 12:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:59am: Do you understand this question John? Do you understand that you have not presented any evidence that supports your claim in the thread title? Define fascism.  Do you understand you've not tried to define fascism? Do you understand you called me a fascist and ran crying when I asked you to explain how I was a fascist?

I know bricks with a higher IQ than FD