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General Discussion >> General Board >> People with the capacity for pregnancy http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1657783616 Message started by Gordon on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:26pm |
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Title: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gordon on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:26pm
The pendulum over swing from pushing crap like this is going to be interesting
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/law-professor-khiara-bridges-calls-sen-josh-hawleys-questions-pregnanc-rcna38015 |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:27pm Gordon wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:26pm:
My god the right are idiots. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 15th, 2022 at 8:58am Gordon wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:26pm:
Q: What did Hitler, Mussolini, Genghis Khan and Vlad the Impaler all have in common? A: They all had MOTHERS. Also Given that the weather is now transphobic, we urgently need to put all meteorologists on a far-right watchlist. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:00am Gordon wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:26pm:
Hey Republicans. Women are NOT “host bodies”. Your misogyny is out of control. 😡 If you had any respect, you would use progressive phrases such as “birthing bodies”, “vulva owners”, “cervix havers”, “bleeders” or “bipedal gestation units”. :'( :'( |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:05am Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:00am:
Right wing tears are delicious |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:25am
Even Bette Midler is transphobic
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-07-06/bette-midler-tweet-women-transphobia-backlash |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:31am Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:25am:
The right sure cry a lot. Spoiler, she isn't |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:36am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:05am:
That's something effete males will never understand. Crying all the time is part of being effete. It is not a feature of non-effete male behaviour. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:37am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:36am:
Crying when traumatised is normal human behaviour. The issue is the weak things that traumatise you |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:39am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:37am:
Yes. Crying when in extreme physical or emotional pain or extreme joy is a feature of all human behaviour, but it appears effete males are hypersensitive to any emotional fluctuation. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:40am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:39am:
I'm not sure I'd describe right wing scum as effete. But then it's probably not a word I'd use, given is seeks to suggest that being feminine is an insult |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:45am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:40am:
It is a feature of being extremely high in trait neuroticism. In effete men, this high score in neuroticism manifests in a similar way as it does with women high in neuroticism. With non-effete men, its manifestation is generally more outwardly violent in nature. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:50am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:45am:
So far you've used a word you've not defined. The right like to cry. That's all I know |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:55am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:50am:
No. It has nothing to do with political sensibility. Those who exhibit female traits, who are very high in trait neuroticism, tend to manifest a sense of helpless vulnerability to anything, by crying. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:56am Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:25am:
And J.K. Rowling has been so manipulative. Her tactic is to not attack trans people in order to make it look as though she is not attacking trans people. She is dog-whistling to her transphobic followers by writing the exact opposite of what she thinks. It’s the oldest trick in the book. Titania |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:58am Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:56am:
She is, of course, regularly attacking trans people |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:01am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:58am:
Not with an axe, I'm guessing. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:02am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:01am:
There it is. The stupidest thing I will read on the internet today |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:05am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:58am:
Gissan example, then. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:05am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:02am:
So, that's a no, then? A lot of meetings today? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:07am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:05am:
I don't have a lot of meetings, I mostly work alone. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:09am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:07am:
I'd bet you do. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:10am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:07am:
We know, wanker, we know. 10 times on weekends. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:11am Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:10am:
The right, crying about cock, again.... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:54pm
Well - you'll never see a Transmf pregnant... a sheila with a beard from hormones getting pregnant is not a man being pregnant - it is sheila on hormones getting pregnant.
No matter how you try to twist and turn, you just cannot get away from the M/F dichotomy, can you? Hands up those interested in finding a Transmilf? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by freediver on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:58pm
I think "capable of giving birth to live young" sounds better.
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:57am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:40am:
No that's a descriptor for many leftwing scum. Don't forget to wipe the dew off the lily before you stand up. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:58am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Yeah that's understandable for more reasons than one. ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:36am
Are called Women.
Blokes can't get pregnant. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:48am
[quote author=Gnads link=1657783616/26#26 date=1657929448]
No that's a descriptor for many leftwing scum. Don't forget to wipe the dew off the lily before you stand up.[/quote] I understand right wing filth think feminine is an insult. I actually really like women, for more than sex |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:48am Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:36am:
Sex is not gender, why do you cry so much? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:51am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:48am:
Pregnancy is not gender, thicko ratty. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:06am Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:51am:
My God the right are all idiots. pregnancy is something that happens to people based on sex, not gender |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:26am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:06am:
Yeah, tiresome ratty, if happens to women. It cannot ever happen to a man. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:28am Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:26am:
It only happens to people whose sex is female. This is obvious. why are you crying? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:33am
Can it not happen to someone who identifies as the male sex?
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:35am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:33am:
No one claims to identify as a sex. This is the issue. You are utterly lost, but still feel the need to comment |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:07pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:35am:
Well, it just demonstrates that all the talk of "gender" is a load of confused, empty bs. You can be either male or female - and ... er..... that's it. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:08pm Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:07pm:
That is true, but it's true twice. Most people are not confused. Everyone under 35 is not confused. Just some boomers are confused. *shrug* |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:09pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:35am:
Sure they do. Allow me demonstrate. I identify as being of the male sex. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:25pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:09pm:
So do I. And I'll warrant we are also both of the male gender, which is different Society always evolves. We always learn new things. Old people are always confused by change. None of this is new or interesting |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:29pm
Can it not happen to someone who identifies as the male sex?
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:31pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:29pm:
As usual, your questions show how utterly lost you are |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:34pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:25pm:
There is no gender outside grammar (and then only in some languages). You cannot have gender other than he or she in English. Just because you THINK you are a unicorn or Napoleon doesn't make you so. Gender diverse is just being deluded in diverse ways - it's still delusion though. And the deluded demand that everyone else validate and go along with their ever-increasing ways of being self-deluded. I don't much care if you are mad and deluded, just don't ask me to treat you as if you weren't. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:38pm Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:34pm:
as I said, old people being lost and confused is nothing new. You're not interesting. You're just average. No one is demanding you do anything. You are just upset at being asked to show kindness to people |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:01pm
I prefer to consider that change is often deliberately designed to create confusion so that sneaky things can sneak through as 'normal'.
Anyway - since trannies etc are the Abnormal - Latin word for 'away from' = ab - ergo, away from the normal - they should simply accept that and move on towards healing. It is, after all only in their mind that the confusion arises, deliberate or otherwise. Other people can't do it for them - healing begins at home. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:07pm
Old people aren't lost and confused - they have a very good idea how things work.... been doing it for a long time.
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:08pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:35am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:25pm:
And you say I am the one who is confused.... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:09pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:07pm:
Oh, if we went back to 1950, we chained women to the kitchen, and killed blacks and gays, you'd be in your element |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:22pm
I identify as a member of the male sex..... that's my right....
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:24pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:22pm:
My God you are a deluded old man. No one suggested you can't identify as male, sex or gender. In fact, no one actually cares |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:25pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:09pm:
Women were liberated from drudgery and hard work and were kept in safety at home with freedom to do was they liked, while men took it all on - the common folk didn't kill Blacks or poofs, most people had nothing to do with it. What makes you imagine that men weren't chained to the hard dirty work every day? Poofs were pretty much left to themselves... Getyu head outchu ass, boy. You gotta stop reading all that New Fascist propaganda being put out by the left in their utterly delusional state and get with the common folk. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:26pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:24pm:
Well - that's my sex... man..... sorry 'bout that. You no like there's the door.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:30pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:26pm:
Does it count when you've not been able to get it up for a decade? No one cares, old man. All of this is your deluded sex fantasy |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:30pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:25pm:
Thanks for admitting you were an adult in 1950 and never saw past your own privilege to believe this bullshit. I am glad we killed your world. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:34pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:30pm:
Desperation appears in Lefty's attempt at debating - personal sledging is his forte... let's see how far we can push him .... easy as pie ..... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:36pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:30pm:
You don't have to be an adult in 1950 to know what truth is about history. You haven't killed any world - all you've done is try to craft new chains for the common folk who you despise and hope to rule one day with your nonsense. Nothing much has changed - and the privilege still belongs to a few... not to entire social groups... get your head out of those propaganda books, sonny. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:37pm
People with the capacity for pregnancy are women, by definition. The rest are either men or they are as minority aberration = Abnormal. Even an infertile woman born is a woman unless she chooses some other path..... choice-mobile, innit?
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:45pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
You can't debate me, old man, so I mock your pathetic tears over a world that got better and confused you. That is all I'd block you if I could. You're a worthless old man spewing hate because you're scared |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:52pm Quote:
Of course you would, fascist. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:57pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:52pm:
That's also not fascism, boomer. You just say fascist randomly, don't you? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:20pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:52pm:
He's triggered, is all.... can't help but respond like a Pavlovian dog.. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:57pm:
Nah - you do a much better job of that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:20pm:
That's funny given I am going in a circle, chasing all your ignorant and meaningless replies. You are answering me over and over, saying nothing and, presumably, masturabating like a bonobo |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:22pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
I started a thread with a clear definition of fascism and you all replied to refuse to discuss it, and publicly cry |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:36pm
Womens is womens and mens is mens - vive la difference - all the rest are Abbies... sad cases really... from the records it seems not to rock their boats ... all in the mind, you see... and without the will to help themselves they will never heal.
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:38pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:36pm:
Abbies? What on earth are you talking about? Trans women are women. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:39pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:22pm:
I'd say your average Antifa or BLeMish marching down the street with his/her bundle of sticks demanding change to suit their chosen ideology of the day is clearly Fascist ... Fascist is as Fascist does... what's in a name..... it's the actions that count. ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:41pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:38pm:
Trans women are trans women - not women... the world disagrees with you increasingly as they take it under consideration. Trannies should be happy to be what they reckon they wanted to be - somewhere between the two and in a unique class of their very own.... they chose that path - they should revel in their success at gaining it..... no reason for the ROTW to fall in line with their ideas..... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:07pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:27pm:
Nothing to say that Hawley was an idiot. He did, however, leave himself open to criticism with his questions. Put the heterophobic, non-binary fascist Bridges in her place and ignore her until she starts to be tolerant of heterosexual people that have a traditional family unit. This phuckin' phase of promoting alternative lifestyles might be okay in proportion to their numbers. But, trying to shame heterosexual people is where you draw the line. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:09pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:39pm:
Yes, you are an idiot. I know that. I'm not even going to reply to your BS imagining that society does not hate you for hating trans women |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:10pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
Explain the ways people are intolerant to nuclear families. Explain the disadvantage they face, you deluded old man I get why you feel ashamed. that's not on me |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:13pm
Nothing to hate - their problem that they have a confusion between mind and body. They should concentrate on the mental issue ..... the results from any drastic measures has not been encouraging, with a high number of post-op suicides and tormented lives being nothing......
Women are women and men are men - the rest are deviations from the norm - the AB normal. Even a 'trans woman' wants to be a woman, but can never be, so even they see the world in its true duopoly. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:13pm freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Don't fart-arse about this topic. Call them "mothers". |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:15pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:48am:
I understand right wing filth think feminine is an insult. I actually really like women, for more than sex[/quote] You prefer them as a reference for fashion tips. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:17pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:13pm:
As I've told you, retard, there is no known way to make people not trans. It's not a mental illnes and it can't be 'cured'. Trans women are women. Hot women are a deviation from the norm, are you mad they exist? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:18pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
You prefer them as a reference for fashion tips.[/quote] I just find I connect more easily with women as friends. Always have. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:21pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:09pm:
70 years into the future, people's grandchildren would probably be speaking Hindi or Chinese as a first language in this 'country'. And all kinds of cultural variances would be in place, particularly if you were not of Indian or Chinese ancestry. But, that also has nothing to do with today. Much like your condemnation of what (might have) happened (embellishing) with society 70 years ago. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:27pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:18pm:
I knew that you would admit to it. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:30pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:18pm:
I just find I connect more easily with women as friends. Always have. [/quote] It's a gay thing ...... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:31pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:30pm:
HAHAHAA!!! OK boomer |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:31pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:27pm:
Wait, treating women as humans is a confession now? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:26pm
People with the capacity for pregnancy are women - a trans woman can never be a woman... be content with what you choose to be... nobody's forcing you to it...
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:27pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:31pm:
Well - it's a gay thing ................................. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:19am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:31pm:
You connecting to women more easily as friends is your admission. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by AusGeoff on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:29am
It should be noted of course that not all women can become pregnant.
Many are born with reproductive organ dysfunction or absence. A lack of fallopian tubes, a cervix, or a uterus are classic examples. Infertility in women is a more common problem than many people realize. Incurable polycystic ovarian syndrome affects 6% of all women for example. And chromosomal abnormalities of the ova means a woman can't sustain a "normal" pregnancy, with only a third of those using IVF becoming pregnant. So... "people with the capacity for pregnancy" is a legitimate term. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 6:23pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:19am:
Yeah, well - it's a gay thing, you know... and they often act as cock blockers, too.... bastards... 8-) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 6:46pm AusGeoff wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:29am:
Not when it is calculated to include 'men' into the masses ranks of 'people with the capacity for pregnancy' . That tortured, Newspeak formulation should be enough warning for all but the cloth-eared and forever hand-wringing, inclusivity-over-fairness-and-sense brigade, which seems to be expanding by the minute. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:00pm
2 genders.
Male and Female. All the other "names" are made up delusions supported by delusional left-wing nutters who hate the society that gave them breath. As long as you're having fun pretending to be an apostrophe. Just be prepared when people start telling you what reality is. It may come as a shock to your spaced out inner mind. Try not to get offended. Pretend you're a moo cow on Mars to get through it. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:02pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
What about a trans man ? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:12pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:02pm:
You mean a woman who pretends to be a man? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:16pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:02pm:
A trans man while ever capable of pregnancy is not a man by definition. They remain a woman who thinks she is a man but whose body does not agree.... that is why it is a mental issue. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:18pm Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
No. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:22pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
Yet there are people who are just born that way. Little boys who desire to play with dolls and deeply believe that they are a girl or the opposite. Children who refuse to be talked out of their gender belief. It is real and it is well known. Ignorant people who insist that they do not really exist are very sad and a big part of the reason that this group have much higher than average teenage suicide rates. Nobody would ever choose for this to happen either to themselves or anyone in their family. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:30pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:18pm:
So what trans man has ever successfully become a Man? Forever lost somewhere in the wilderness between woman and man is not the same and never will be... same with trans women ... forever lost between man and woman and never reaching the end................ That's why they are trans men and women and not men and women. No trans man will ever impregnate a woman, and no trans woman will ever become pregnant. They should just be happy with their own choices...........men do not get pregnant. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:34pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:22pm:
That's why it is a mental issue.... easier to treat the mind than to sculpt the body to fit a fantasy. They have a much higher rate of teen suicides because they know they are 'wrong' somewhere and because they clearly have mental issues. Again - the way they see themselves is a personal thing and not on anyone else. Those you say are 'a big part of the reason' most likely will never meet one, let alone affect one, so clearly it is that individual's immediate peer group who are doing all the 'disbelieving', and who, by being normal, show to the mentally ill one that there is something wrong....... hence the suiciding. Your argument is like saying that drug users are paranoid because of drug use rather than because of the knowledge that what they are doing is wrong somehow. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:35pm
The whole thing was just Josh Hawley making an ass of himself as usual.
The question was only a set up so she tore him apart over it instead of playing his silly game. Even dumb Josh should know that not all woman have the capacity for pregnancy. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:38pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:34pm:
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:00pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:18pm:
What else is a trans man but a woman pretending to be a man? There are only to options for mammals - make of female. That's it. Anything else is unicorn fantasy |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:16pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:35pm:
Indeed - but the point is that all trans women do not have the capacity for pregnancy.. a woman unable to become pregnant is still a woman, and not a trans woman. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:19pm
Let me add to that - trans women never had and never will have the capacity to become pregnant, and never even had the potential to become capable from birth. A woman missing a part or not having all parts operational is still a woman... a trans woman is a trans woman and should be content with what they have chosen to be instead of kicking up a ruckus about it and blaming everyone else.
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by AiA on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:22pm
Hawley is a POS, but that woman is everything that is wrong with the left today. And Miss Hawley prefers real men, not sissies or trannies!
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:33pm
Let's kick this one around the park again:-
https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/sex-reassignment-doesnt-work-here-the-evidence Gotta give Lefty something to chew on and work towards his heart attack with.... he's in the Danger Zone, and not the one in the song from Top Gun either..... probably one of those who will keel over suddenly from stress....... On the other hand, oldies who have got this far stand a far better chance of living for another ten years or more ... I promise to come to his funeral .... at his age they still think they are invulnerable..... the body often thinks otherwise.... ;D ;D ;D ;D New Video Game? Give a Boomer Hater a Heart Attack? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:35pm AiA wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:22pm:
Of course - they talk the talk, but never walk the walk..... they are PAID handsomely to talk the talk..... then go home to a nice hetero relationship and a normal albeit well-padded life .... ideology is just a business.... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:01am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:30pm:
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Dnarever on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:03am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:19pm:
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Something they have in common with up to 60% of other women. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:07am Dnarever wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:01am:
At least you retain your civility and humour.... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:08am Dnarever wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:03am:
No relevance - these are women through and through - trans women are not and never can be. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by AusGeoff on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:26am Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:00pm:
Firstly, you're confusing "gender" with "sex"; two entirely different things. Based on the sole criterion of production of reproductive cells, there are two, and only two sexes: the female sex, capable of producing ovules, and the male sex, which produces spermatozoa. Gender is a social construct that's defined as an internal sense of self, and has nothing to do with sex per se. There are multiple definitions of "transgender". And there is no viable evidence supporting your claim that transgender persons are "delusional", mentally defective or even left-wing. According to Pew Research, 57% of Republicans say society has gone too far in acknowledging transgenderism, while only 12% of Democrats say that. This indicates—yet again—how many Republicans are still living in a 1950s black and white television era. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 6:35am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:08am:
Geoff has told you the truth. But you won't accept it because you're obsessed with the sex parts of strangers. creep |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:06am AusGeoff wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:26am:
Arrant nonsense. Of course gender dysphoria is a sexual aberration. Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else. Not to height, not to taste in cake, not musical ability- only sexuality. It is readily acknowledged that there are some people who have an abnormal or distorted view of their sexuality. What is rejected is that all these aberrations are normal and as valid as being a well-adjusted male or female. What is absolutely rejected and abhorred is the surgical and medical violence done to healthy bodies in order to appease blighted minds. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:27am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:06am:
I won't bother correcting all this BS, I have so many times before I will just note that elderly right wing scum sure love to cry about strangers genitals. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:40am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:06am:
::) ::) crap |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:43am John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:40am:
Everything is about sex, to people obsessed with sex. 'invented genders' are nuanced. They are not about sex, they are not even sex, they are gender. Trans people are male and female, when boomers drag in 'invented genders' to that discussion they merely advertise their ignorance |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:51am John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:40am:
Gissan example then, two planks. Go on. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:54am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:51am:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/style/lgbtq-gender-language.html |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:55am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:54am:
I can't read that, what does it say that you think supports your BS? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:09am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:51am:
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:10am
Invented Genders sounds good...
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:11am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:10am:
Gender is a complex topic, more complex than sex. People are inventing genders to explain how they experience gender. This is an intermediate stage, in time we will simply accept everyones right to be who they are without needing labels |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:40am John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:09am:
[/quote] So ALL related to sexual orientation and nothing else - feminine males, not so feminine females. All about sexual dysphoria, nothing else. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:45am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:40am:
and you got that from ????????? ::) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:48am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:11am:
Er.... they are self-labelling and inventing ever more bizarre sexual 'orientations' and pronouns for themselves. And get miffed and ratty if we just call them he or she according to the facts before us. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:55am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:48am:
The question remains, how is 'he' or 'she' a word with a sacred meaning you have to uphold, over being kind to someone? Why is this so important to you? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:23am John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:45am:
From your post, planks. Did you read it? Did you comprehend it? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:27am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:23am:
i didn't see anything on sexual orientation ... can you highlight those bits? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:30am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:55am:
It's not sacred. You are either a he or a she. There is no ze or zong of pftrh or whatever. As to kindness- it is not a mere matter of 'kindness' to indulge a bloke like 'Lea' Thomas and call him a woman. He is not a woman. He is a bloke. If anything, it is supremely unkind and unfair to all women to treat him as one. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:36am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Why is it unkind to women? Are you just mental? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:48am John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:27am:
;D ;D ;D ;D you didn't see anything on sexual orientation, plankers?? What IS it about, then? Blood type? How curly your hair is? When translated literally, they mean “in the manner of women” (fa’a fafine) and “in the manner of man” (fa’a fatama); but, but but, being a man or a woman has nuffin' to do with sexual orientation and behaviour and roles. Oh no. In the manner of women or men has nuffin' to do wiv women and men - which in turn has nuffin' to do with sex and reproduction in a mammalian species like humanity. Oh no. It's about somefin' completely unrelated. It's socially constructed!!! Oh yes. ;) :D :D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:59am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:36am:
The same way as calling you sane is unkind to the sane. You expend endless gallons of spittle and venom on how hateful real women are who do not accept a bloke as being a woman just like real woman. You call real women exclusionary and haters because they can see that a bloke is a bloke and dare to say it in the face of your kind of relentless, deranged agitation, name calling and vicious denunciations. And you you, redface, spittle-flecked bulging eyed rage monkeys have the temerity to call real women 'unkind' for not seeing a bloke as a woman. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:05pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:59am:
Most women think you are scum. Terfs, like Nazis, are in a minority. you think I am spittle flecked but here you are, pouring hate on people you don't know for how they experience gender. Confused much? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:13pm
I don't care how they experience their sexuality - just don't insist that I or anyone else experience it THEIR way.
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:14pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:13pm:
It's not their sexuality you daft twat. It's their gender. The question is, why would you even talk to people you hate, except to pour hate onto them? Why can't you just not be a prick? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
There is no gender outside grammar. Even in grammar it references male and female, ie sex categories. What you call gender is sexual disorientation. It's a mental disorder. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:27pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
So gender does not exist? Being female is a sexual orientation? You are not male, you merely have a dick and are genderless? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:27pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
It is tiresome to keep reminding ignorant hateful boomers that DSM5 defines what is a mental disorder.... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:04pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:55am:
we have noticed your kindness and coureous demeanour ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:05pm aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:04pm:
If you were decent and reasonable people, my kindness would be self evident |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:23pm
`And only ONE for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'
`I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't-- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"' `But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected. `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master-- that's all.' Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them-- particularly verbs, they're the proudest--adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs--however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!' `Would you tell me, please,' said Alice `what that means?' `Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.' `That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone. `When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, `I always pay it extra.' `Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:32pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 11:48am:
blah blah blah ... you demanding that it must be about sexual orientation doesn't make it so ... no matter how much yo stomp your feet where in any of the examples I put up does it say anything about what sex they are or are not attracted to? I suspect you don't even know what the term 'sexual orientation' means. ::) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:55pm John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:09am:
[/quote] All about male, female - ie what sex they are. How they feel about it doesn't change that. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:56pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 14th, 2022 at 5:27pm:
Sen. Josh Hawley is a particularly disgusting |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:56pm:
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:03pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:55pm:
Society is functioning well. Most people know what gender is. Your confusion and anger is simply amusing |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:56pm:
Why? I bet you can't explain turd. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:56pm:
Why? I bet you can't explain turd. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:06pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
"Hawley has said that human trafficking is the result of the American sexual revolution in the 1960s due to the social encouragement of premarital sex and the use of contraception. After being criticized for these statements, he said that Hollywood culture was a major cause of human trafficking.[215][216] Hawley has said that the appropriate place for sex is "within marriage"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Hawley There's more |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:08pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Hawley supported the Trump administration's family separation policy. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:08pm:
Hawley is a Trump loyalist. He voted to acquit Trump during his first Senate impeachment trial. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:11pm:
Hawley's first commercial in the 2018 Senate campaign focused on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court, which he supported. After Kavanaugh was accused of sexual assault, Hawley staunchly defended him. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Hitler-loving scumbag. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:11pm:
Good on him. That was a ridiculous show trial. Family separation?? Don't try to be cute turd, dont elide the main point, as you always try. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Good on him. That was another disgraceful made-up lefty farce. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:27pm:
:D :D Turd, are you another twitching, overwrought ratty??? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by AusGeoff on Jul 19th, 2022 at 7:12am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
It's obvious you're still not clear on the distinctions between "sex" and "gender". And gender is definitely not "sexual disorientation". I was born a male, and as an adult I identify as a male. Therefore my gender is technically male. If, on the other hand, I hated my male body, and wanted to present to the world—and my mirror image—as a female, then I may well desire to change my gender. Gender reassignment is driven by neurological functioning; it's not something that someone just wakes up one morning and says; "Hmmm... I think I'll have a sex change today". I get the feeling that you're a person who doesn't like, or is scared of, the "other" in your world. Transgender persons are a living, visible reminder of the other—which dislike of you attempt to assuage with very vocal hatred. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 7:51am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 2:41pm:
One assumes you think brown children don't deserve parents? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 8:42am
Geoff, you do not merely "identify" as a male, you are a male. And it wasn't 'assigned" to you at birth randomly, arbitrarily. You are male or female from the moment of conception, depending on whether the fertilising sperm carried an x or y chromosome since all eggs are x only. Your maleness in every single cell of your body, including your nerve cells (so there is no 'neurological' gap or opening for you to be female.)
What is in your imagination is another matter. As your imagination is not biological, you can imagine all sorts of things. Kids dress up as all sorts of heroes, animals, imagine themselves all sorts of things. But just as you cant simply wish yourself into being a unicorn or a red Indianor a 7 foot black basketballer, you can't become a girl by dreasing as one and imitating girlie speech and behaviour. Being a woman or a man is not just a veneer to be method acted, imitated, mimicked. Yes, you can mimick it but, obviously, that is not BEING one, that's only playing at it, no matter how fervently you wish to BE it. You can indulge kiddies and address them as Spiderman and play along. You can also indulge a grown man dressed as a woman and address him as Miss Daisy. But you are just playing along, the kid is not Superman an the bloke is still a bloke. The whole 'gender' inventory is an attempt to play along as if one was not playing along but was really believing in the transformative power of imaging oneself to be a Miss Daisy or anything else - that's why the LGBT alphabet is open- ended to infinity. It's theatre, often of the theatre of the absurd, treated as the reality and in this theatre actual, the real is merely theatre, arbitrarily assigned and randomly made up. An inversion - which is what such people were called before genders were invented in the 1950' - inverts. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 8:44am Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 8:42am:
I love the tears of repressed and scared boomers crying about a kind society If it's all made up, why are some people sure they are trans? Why can't we talk them out of it? Why can science explain how this happens? Why do they tell us they were born that way? Why is your little piece of fiction more evidence than lived experience? Why do you care so much about the genitals of strangers? Are you on a watch list? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:02pm
So when a biological male says he is gender neutrel, he still identifies as a male, just the gender is neutrel?
So what's the gender part that is neutral? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:04pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:02pm:
The gender is the gender. Gender is not sex |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:08pm Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 1:55pm:
All about male, female - ie what sex they are. How they feel about it doesn't change that. [/quote] See, I was right. You have absolutely no idea what sexual orientation means. You just use the term because you think it sounds clever ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:19pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:04pm:
Well then it's the ones who identify as whatever gender that are confused. Why is that? Gender isn't sex. Why get offended at being called a man, boy, sir, Mr, or any other title that identifies amales sex? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:20pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:02pm:
Gender exist only in grammar and even there it is highly artificial and makes little sense. In German, for example, a river is masculine but a cloud is feminine. Book, car, girl or lass are neutral. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:20pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:20pm:
Your confusion is delicious |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:21pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:19pm:
I don't see a question here? Gender isn't sex. People like to be identified as their gender |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:22pm John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:08pm:
See, I was right. You have absolutely no idea what sexual orientation means. You just use the term because you think it sounds clever ;D[/quote] I said, Every single invented gender is related to sexuality and nothing else. You cannot talk about gender without sexual identity. It is about nothing else. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:23pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:20pm:
You are equally as confused if you do not post your response. Don't say you have, otherwise it would be clear with no confusion. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:26pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
I highlighted the question for you. People can "like to be" all they like. When something g is being misconstrued such as gender then they are the ones that need to prove their point. I like to think there is a building site on the moon. It's up to me to prove it, not for you to prove there isn't. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:27pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:26pm:
If someone says they are male, they are male. Prove them wrong. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:32pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
Ahhh, no they are not. A woman can not claim to be male. She can pretend. Do you expect me to rip an ovary out and present her the facts? That's not an answer. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:34pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
You are confusing sex and gender. You said you knew they were different? It comes down to manners. IF someone asks you to call them she, why would you not? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:38pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
If I say you are an idiot, you are an idiot. Prove me wrong. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:39pm
Best part is that these delusional idiots do not exist without the following.
A man, male and a woman, female. Those two basic ingredients go into your existence. Without either you would be nothing more than a blood clot flushed down the toilet, and a stain on a cum rag. If that's to hard to grasp then to bloody bad. ;) I bathe in the tears of the crying left. Gives me pleasure in correcting their childish behaviour. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:40pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:38pm:
That's different because I am talking about someone reporting what THEY are. I prove I am not an idiot by answering your BS every day |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:58pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:38pm:
you really don't get it do you? it's not about what YOU say about them. It's about how they see themselves. ::) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:21pm John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:58pm:
They can see themselves as they like. And I see themselves as they are - or as I see them, if you prefer. They shouldn't demand - but they do - that I SEE them as they see themselves. That stupid, arrogant demand is what's overstepping the limit. Nuts to that. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:51pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 12:40pm:
Gender - sooooo 50s!! Here's a real cat, she is also a native speaker of English with a North American accent. If you do not treat her as a cat you are a hateful trans exclusionary cat hating fascist nazi. https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1549105010729832448 English speaking cats with nose rings - do other cats respect and accept that? Of are they exclusionary about such things? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:57pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
I think you're a stupid bigoted old man. Can I say that to you? Is that polite? |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:06pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:57pm:
:D ;) :D That's a big climb down, twitching little ratso, from spittle-flecked shouts of "fascists and TERFs" to merely 'impolite". ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:18pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:06pm:
You are just an idiot. My position on trans folks has always been that your 'I just have to call it as i see it' shows you have no manners or decency |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:34pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
Honestly, no one cares how you see them. You're just not that important. It's how you label them that is the issue. It's akin to me telling you my name is john and you insisting on calling me steve because you see me as a steve. Only a moron would do that ... oh wait, that explains it. ::) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:37pm
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:47pm John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:34pm:
Nothing like that, planks. Being a man or a woman is not like being called Steve or John - both Male names. Not even you can be so thick as to imagine that these are in any way analogous. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:49pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:47pm:
The point is you insist on misgendering people. Why is not relevant. That you're dumb is not relevant |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 1:51pm:
Then I'm all of the above. The girl needs help, not encouragement. You can stereotype the people that A. Do this to themselves. B. Encourage idiots to do this to themselves. Another thing is social media influence. It's hip to be this new breed of fuct up. It's all influences put upon them that they have taken to. If left alone after birth, would a human even think it's a cat? Sure, if it grew up around cats, otherwise it will mimick what it's surroundings are, or influences are. While you've got idiots online posting how tremendous it is to identify as something other than human, then a trend of more idiots following and encouraging, we will see a following to that trend in people who have serious psyc issues. They're drawn to it. The way I see it, as someone who lives in reality, and is not afraid to ask questions if things don't quite add up.... She can pretend to be a cat all she likes. In fact, live like a cat her whole life. Shyte in kitty litter, chase birds and mice ffs. But.... It if she expects me to treat her like a cat, then she's not going to get what she wants. Why won't I treat her like a cat? Because she's not a cat. ;) |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:15pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:
So you are scum. Excellent The facts are, people are born knowing their gender is not their sex. There is no way to change their minds. It comes down to if you have no capacity for kindness |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:37pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:49pm:
;D :D :D My non-binary friend Steve is often misgendered by bigots who like to pretend that gender-neutral pronouns can cause “grammatical confusion”. They are upset with them because when they call them him they are disrespecting their right to choose their pronouns for themself. Titania McGrath |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:41pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:
And if you grabbed and stroked the pussy there would a lot of 'angry miaowing' in Old Anglo-Saxon. Tsk, tsk ::) ::) ::) There's no pleasing some putthycats. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:42pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:37pm:
Yes, this is the sort of nonsense you speak |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by John Smith on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 2:47pm:
buggeren ell but you are thick. It's not about sex, it's about gender. it doesn't matter if they were born a man, a woman or friggen hermaphrodite. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Kat on Jul 19th, 2022 at 5:41pm
Oh, dear!
This HAS been entertaining. Wish I'd not been in a hospital bed for most of it. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2022 at 5:58pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:09pm:
Rubbish complete rubbish. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:02pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
A good few would block you you infantile POS. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:05pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:38pm:
No they are not… the are males identifying as female. No woman has a cock and balls. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:10pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:18pm:
I just find I connect more easily with women as friends. Always have. [/quote] That’s totally understandable - you’re a real nasty bitch. ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:12pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:30pm:
It's a gay thing ...... [/quote] An Hag Fag? ;D |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Kat on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:17pm Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
And nor do many trans women. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:45pm Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
World might have been better off if 'we' did..... Blacks do a far better job of killing one another.. it's in the blood, you see? As for gays - well - more of them top themselves and gaydom has the highest rates of DV after Aboriginal communities and gays cop a far lower rate of violence than ordinary real men...... lesos are into DV a lot for dominance.... mad as .... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 7:07pm John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Gender IS about sex. It's a way of going nuts about the crushing, cruel reality of being either male or female. Gender has nothing to do with ANY OTHER human characteristic but sex. Its a sexual dysphoria, a mania, a madness. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 19th, 2022 at 7:28pm Kat wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:17pm:
Only because of surgical intervention.... or is that invention? Hard to tell the difference these days.... anyway - why would any individual want the organs of sex removed and go into limbo for pleasure etc? Bring in Lefty to rant about 'people obsessed with sex' - WTF does he think sex organs are for? Why does he imagine a bloke would want to be a 'woman' - so she could sleep with other women? It's a gay delusion. Also where's his idea that trannies still experience orgasm without the equipment of either.... fantasies built on fantasies... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2022 at 8:07pm Kat wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 6:17pm:
But some do. So you are saying that women can have the full set of wedding tackle - or none, either biologically no prick n balks or surgically removed prick n balls - and they are ALL women without YOU personally, honestly, being utterly unable to tell the difference: natural born women, blokes with full fear, blokes gelded - all indistingushably women. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 19th, 2022 at 8:55pm
'Transwomen' also do not have a functioning vagina and breasts ..... you know - thanks for the mammaries?
Thank you linesmen... thank you ball boys.... and thanks for the trophy .... |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by AusGeoff on Jul 20th, 2022 at 6:58am
A transwoman can orgasm.
If the penis, prostate, and testicles have been removed, she'll still have an orgasm through clitoral tissue stimulation, but obviously won’t ejaculate. This is known as a "dry" orgasm. |
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Title: Re: People with the capacity for pregnancy Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 20th, 2022 at 8:40am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
Nor does your mum. So what? |
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