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Title: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by mothra on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:08am
Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers — and finding a culture where extremist views can flourish
In 2017, Finn*, a then-15-year-old gamer from Melbourne, showed his mother a viral clip he'd come across while watching gaming videos on YouTube. The video showed an alt-right protester punching a young anti-fascist woman in the face at a Patriot's Day rally in Berkeley, California. "She got king hit," says Finn's mother, Stephanie. A narrator made fun of the act of violence. "It was passed off as funny by the commentary," Stephanie says. But far from finding the video humorous, Stephanie was shocked at what she saw. "I actually burst into tears when he showed it to me," she says. When Finn told her, "there are good people on both sides", Stephanie's heart dropped. "I knew that was what president [Donald] Trump had said. My mind was spinning. I thought, what has my son got into online? I've let this happen. I haven't been asking enough questions," she says. "I told him it was wrong, that I was really disappointed in him to be watching that kind of thing, and I would be even more so if he was sharing it amongst his friends. I let him know that I'd talk to his teachers about it." Finn's school immediately stepped in to help, offering its online safety course to younger year groups and inviting counsellors to speak to students. "That was fantastic for Finn," Stephanie says. "We got it really early. He was quite innocent [and] impressionable. He hadn't gone totally down the rabbit hole." Gaming and violent extremism The world of online gaming has a long association with violent extremism. Payton Gendron, the 18-year-old man accused of killing 10 people in a Buffalo supermarket in May, signalled his intention to target Black people in a mass shooting on Discord, a chat app popular among gamers. In the wake of the tragedy, New York Attorney-General Letitia James announced an investigation into online platforms that may have been used to stream, promote, or plan the event, including Discord, 4chan, 8chan and Twitch, a video game live-streaming service owned by Amazon. Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik, who murdered 77 people in 2011, told the court during his trial that he played computer games such as World of Warcraft and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for "training purposes" in preparation for his shocking attack. Brenton Tarrant, the Australian shooter who killed 51 people at two Christchurch mosques in 2019, referenced popular video games Spyro the Dragon and Fortnite in a manifesto he distributed minutes before launching his attack. Helen Young, an expert on racism and popular culture from Deakin University, says that while some perpetrators of fatal attacks have been gamers, it's important to note that "so are literally millions of other people who don't become radicalised". She says the link between online gaming, right-wing radicalisation and violent extremism is an under-researched area. "It's difficult to say video games even played a role for some of these individuals. Radicalisation … is a complicated process and is different for everybody. "Sometimes gaming and games are in the mix; sometimes they're not." But Dr Young says what's certain is that far-right organisations are targeting gaming spaces, interacting with other users and producing content for online platforms associated with gaming, such as Twitch, Steam or YouTube, where Finn encountered the alt-right video he showed his mother. Kaz Ross, an independent researcher into far-right extremism and conspiracy theories, says part of the problem is social media algorithms, which serve users increasingly extreme content to boost views and engagement. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=facebook&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web&fbclid=IwAR2QbgQnFKc3e1yjoVUHIX_CXbI74_QnbiUFQn0DOHMQPglSK7YYkhCz8rg |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:16am Quote:
Is that the video we were discussing here? She had black leather gloves on and took a swing first? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:38am
"young white men"
"a young white guy" "Young white men" "white masculinity" "young white men" "culture and community of white" It's about as racist as it can get, that article. The ABC should be prosecuted over it, it's the worst display of racism I've ever seen |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:44am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:38am:
The right are idiots. This is talking about the basis of the targeting, and the basis of the hate message being pushed. I saw this first hand with my son, it's very real. The far right is recruiting the young to be it's foot soldiers in the race war it desperately wants |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:44am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:16am:
Punching Nazis is patriotism |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:45am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:16am:
Did you find it funny? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:47am John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:45am:
Ironic. From memory. It was a while back. It was a microcosm of you and your friends. Whining about fascists while also being fascists. Totally oblivious to your own hypocrisy. Or maybe she just turned up for the biff. Who knows. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:50am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:47am:
I didn't ask for your blah blah blah ... did you find it funny fd? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:51am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:47am:
Define fascism. How was he a fascist. Show us you know what the word means and don't just use it because you hear it a lot? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:51am
I meant FTLW's friends, not you.
Like I said, it was a while back. I recall it as ironic. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:52am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:51am:
Define fascism? What did I ever say I did, that was fascist? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:53am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:52am:
For starters, you regularly call for the death of people you disagree with. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:57am freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:53am:
I am confused. Do I point out that's not fascism? Do I point out I've never done that? You're just wrong in every possible way. Perhaps if you read a book, you might know what fascism is? Or just read on what Trump did, that qualifies |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:00pm Quote:
Also a fascist. Who whines constantly about fascism. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:04pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:00pm:
We have established you have NFI what fascism is. Why do you call people that?I can only assume it's a reflex, call people the thing you get called. One assumes the people calling you a fascist can read and know what it means But we will never know because you're scared to discuss it |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:05pm
Your most recently call for death (that I am aware of) is only just over an hour old.
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 10:52am:
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:07pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
As expected, the issue, again, is literacy. I don't want to kill boomers. I am related to some. I simply recognised that a society free of hate requires their absence. I am suggesting we wait it out, not that we create death squads. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:10pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:07pm:
Spoken like a true fascist. Hitler did not need the Jews dead either. He just needed them gone. But no-one else would take them. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:11pm
OMG! Alt-left groups are targeting morons!
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:23pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:10pm:
interesting, that is historically accurate. That's still not fascism. Or are you claiming communists didn't want anyone dead? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:24pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
List some alt left groups that have prominent platforms and matter to society |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:25pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
And they are succeeding, it's a fertile ground. Tsk, tsk ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:25pm Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:25pm:
Why are you butting in when you have nothing of interest to say? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:28pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:23pm:
Why would I complain about something that isn't true? Quote:
Antifa. As looney as they get. Yet they appeal to some people. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:31pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:28pm:
Do I need to draw you a diagram? If wanting people dead is fascism, then communists can't possibly do it What is antifa? What does it mean? Why are they looney? What's looney about them? Who are them? I always win. You say breathtakingly ignorant things, I ask basic questions and you run away. Rinse and repeat. It's honestly why I don't care if I get bans, there is not real intellectual capacity to engage with here anyhow. The right just blindly scream things they saw on memes |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:39pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:31pm:
:D :D :D Today's word is projection. The mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds. For example, individuals who are in a self-critical state, consciously or unconsciously, may think that other people are critical of them. Depending on what qualities are projected and whether or not they are denied in the self, projection can be the basis of both warm empathy and cold hatred. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:40pm Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:39pm:
Yes, all of this is a projection of your sexual insecurity. I always said that. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:44pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:44am:
It's a racist article, just accept that and we might get along There was no need for the ABC to mention "white" at all ... you didn't mention it, you just used "far right". Far right groups can be of any colour |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:47pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:44pm:
Far right groups are always white supremacist. It's an article about racists |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:56pm
Is that a bad thing? Or do you mean 'targeting' them with propaganda... you know - like Hanging With The Man Game or something?
I can imagine their little eyes blinking wildly at the sight of sunlight and fields outside... the horror... the horror... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:57pm
Well - there ARE good people on both sides... only the extremists would imagine otherwise...
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:58pm freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
obviously a lie otherwise you'd have been at the top of their list of recruits |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:25pm wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:07pm:
The Police will take care of you if you keep carrying on like that |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:18pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:57pm:
Good people on the right are both deluded and silent |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:19pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:25pm:
I've had right wing scum misrepresent my statements to police. I'll give you a free pass - you are not lying, you are illiterate. The cops came here, I explained all the ways the cops had failed me and the ways I act to protect myself and they left with their tails between their legs |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:19pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:18pm:
And yet you claim to be arguing with them every day ...... none so blind ...... Best you re-read your last post there .... think on it ..... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:19pm:
There are no good right wing people in this group, they are all regressive hateful scum. By their words I judge them |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
As they do you ..... but you missed that, Nazi .... you are clear by your own statements.... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:53pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm:
Ask the nurse for your medication |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:28pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:19pm:
So you're already on Police records ... that shouldn't surprise anyone |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:43pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:28pm:
Yes - he'd imagine the cops left with their tails between their legs... more likely shrugged their shoulders and wondered WTF he was on about... he always sees things in terms of his own imagined superiority and accomplishment. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:57pm mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:08am:
The article is rubbish. If you are playing video games at home, you are distracted from causing trouble in public. Television, video games and all kinds of distractions take the pressure off creating criminal elements in society. Even the first paragraph of the article gives rise to the idea that violent video games lower the likelihood that someone would become violent. "Finn" went to tell his mother that he witnessed depictions of a game character punching a woman. It was so concerning that Finn had to report this. That is evidence that Finn has empathy. I would suggest that witnessing violent actions would likely lead people to develop strategies to lower the likelihood of encountering violence. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:58pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:28pm:
No, I am not, dumbass. cops came, they settled down and left quietly. I was not warned or charged. You work it out |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:15pm
Of course he's on police records - probably listed as a serial pest calling for assistance over nothing. Clearly the cops didn't consider his issues worthy of attention... that's what happens when it's all in the complainant's mind........
If, as he claims, people made threats online and/or even fronted his house on camera to intimidate him - there is evidence - clearly there was not. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:16pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Sure enough, endless tears. As I've said before, I have mountains of evidence. I still have the answering machine full of messages threatening to kill my kids. Police were just not educated on online threats like they are now. I am a witness in court at the moment, cops NOW are keen to punish the guy behind it. But they were not then. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 16th, 2022 at 6:29pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
And yet the fuzz didn't act? So now your story changes - now it's that when you initially made a complaint, they did nothing..... now it seems they are doing everything..... your stories constantly change.... try telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth instead of attacking others for pointing out how silly your stories are. You ARE fourteen, aren't you? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:33pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:57pm:
it's not about what you do or don't do in public. Far right groups are using video games to push their agenda onto young kids and as a recruitment source. You do realise that a lot of todays video games are online and you actually chat to other users, right? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:40pm John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:33pm:
What's the 'adenda', thick as lots planks? What is YOUR agenda? You pwoggy mongs have an obvious agenda but if anyone pushes back against your crap you call it an 'agenda'. You lefty agit-prop morons just don't have an insight into your own transparent, shallow, cheap stupidity. You are morons who worship shite you just invented as gold and salvation. And it's all the more disheartening to see an Italian, who should have a cultural memory longer than the guppys of Lleft Wank and Big Cleavage, fall in with the morons. One of my all time defining movies is Bertolucci's 1900. You betray every noble instinct conveyed in that masterpiece. You, like a lot of the modern left, are like the Sutherland character. Totalitarian fckkheads. Sad but entirely predictable. The Left are today's black shirts. Resisting you shitehead is the only honourable course. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by AusGeoff on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:46am
The issue as I see it is the fact that a continual diet of mindless murders, death
and destruction in on-line games can emotionally desensitise too many immature, impressionable kids to the realities of real-life assaults and killings. Violent Video Games Can Trigger Emotional Desensitization. The author writes, in part: Quote:
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Marla on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:53am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:38am:
Why so...so...TRIGGERED John Wayne? Does that not accurately describe your middle-aged white entitled male glee club? and the only racism you've ever seen is the racism you create. Go self-victimize elsewhere. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by AusGeoff on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:11am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 11:38am:
Nope. It has nothing at all to do with racism. You're deliberately misinterpreting what the report actually illustrates—in large part by cherry-picking these phrases. The point being made is that there is a subculture of disaffected young white males, proven by statistical observation. It's not a guess and it's not racist. It's fact. You need to focus more on the thrust of the report, rather than creating a straw man. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:16am John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:33pm:
So, they chat with gamers online to recruit people. I have seen the Stormfront website where they try to recruit people that way. But, if someone is not interested in joining, they will not join. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Marla on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:23am
Oh, I'll sign up! Providing I can get a discount on Micro$oft Flight Simulator. I'll hang a racist Confederate flag with no problem if I can get that crappy "game for @$30
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:19am AusGeoff wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:11am:
See below ↓ ↓ ↓ FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:47pm:
↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ FutureTheLeftWant says it's an article about white racists .... therefore it's a racist article about whites ... shame on the ABC |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by AusGeoff on Jul 17th, 2022 at 6:49am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:19am:
Not so. A racist is defined as "a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalised". White males are not marginalised, nor are they a minority group. Far from it. White people who claim that they're racially vilified because of their whiteness are more than likely butt-hurt white supremacists attempting to play the victim without any viable evidence to support it. And any call to "shame" the ABC is laughably idiotic. ::) |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:33am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:19am:
How do you not drown in the shower? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Gnads on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:42am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 2:19pm:
Blah blah blah ..... same old shyte. moi moi moi |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:45am Gnads wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 7:42am:
Breakfast at the nursing home is early then? You can't debate or discuss. I am telling a consistent story that you cna't disprove, you're just mad it exposes your hate |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:57am Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:40pm:
depends on the far right group those like you are into white supremacy |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:58am UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:16am:
young teenagers are very susceptible to extreme influence. There's a reason they target teenagers and not middle aged men |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by mothra on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:26am
I wonder if we would have so many excuses and protestations if the recruiters were Arab and the targets young Muslim men.
I seem to remember outrage about that. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:50am mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:26am:
How is laffing at something 'recruitment'? If an Arab send me a clip and I laugh - am I now recruited into jihad? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:52am Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:50am:
If it was a joke about killing infidels perhaps? The incel groups are using humour to teach that white men are under attack and women are only useful for sex and abuse. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:00am Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:50am:
It's not ... unless they're recruiting for the 'take pity on sore end, he can't help he's an idiot' society |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:03am
One of our resident Muslims told us about going into our jails to recruit people. Apparently that worked fairly well. There was no particular outrage.
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:05am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Honestly, I've had people pretend to be me and pretend I was a muslim terrorist. The right create fake accounts to make Muslims look bad. But if one Muslim said he's a terrorist, you should have contacted the police. You have his IP address. Still does not define all of Islam |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:07am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:05am:
He did not say he was a terrorist. All he said was that if a modern Islamic state arose and came under attack by the infidel, his religion would compel him to take up arms and defend it. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:08am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:07am:
Did you contact police? Or did you know he was full of crap? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by mothra on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:10am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:08am:
Probably FD put words in his mouth. He does that, i case you haven't noticed. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:13am mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:10am:
I didn't do anything. He said those things a few years before ISIS hit the news. Then disappeared. Mothra I can dig up the quote if you would like. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:17am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:13am:
It's an internet forum. People say things for a reaction all the time but if you were concerned you should have called police. You can't imagine one claimed Muslim saying something extreme on your internet forum defines islam |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by mothra on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:20am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:13am:
No doubt you could, so obseessed are you. But should i read the thread in which the quote resides, no doubt i will see you twisting and turning everything that member said into an absolute dog's breakfast from which you could pluck your sound byte. I know how you work, FD. God knows you've done it to me enough times. It's precisely why i never engage with you. Except now. And now i'm out. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:27am
So what twigged the Mothraesque mother in the op?
When Finn told her, "there are good people on both sides", Stephanie's heart dropped. "I knew that was what president [Donald] Trump had said. My mind was spinning. I thought, what has my son got into online? I've let this happen. I haven't been asking enough questions," she says. "I told him it was wrong, that I was really disappointed in him to be watching that kind of thing, and I would be even more so if he was sharing it amongst his friends. I let him know that I'd talk to his teachers about it." She is, in fact, the extremist. Trump said that there are good people on the right and the left - and the mothras of the world flip out. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by mothra on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:29am Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:27am:
Yeah. Good Nazis. Call it like you see it, Frank. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:33am Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:27am:
is that a good excuse to justify violence Sore end? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:38am Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:27am:
Warning your kids about extremism, is not extremism. Trump is right. There were decent people on the right, they were merely deluded. There were no good people on the right at Charlottesville, or Jan 6. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:40am Quote:
Do they also need to die? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:42am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:40am:
I am against the death penalty. Some needed to be locked up. Some just needed some education. It was still a mix but they were all there with motivations that no person can call good |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:46am mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:20am:
Quick, run away before I provide the evidence. FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:17am:
I wasn't particularly concerned. It only occurred to me a few years after the fact. I doubt he was doing it just for a rise though. They were genuine believers. mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:29am:
Can you explain the difference between a good Nazi and a good Muslim? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:51am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:46am:
All Nazis support killing people for their sexuality or religion. Most Muslims do not. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:53am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:51am:
How do you know this? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:57am freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:53am:
You don't read books at all, do you? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:58am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:57am:
Not on surveys of people's opinions. Did the 3000 books you read about the Nazis in your family tell you what most Muslims think? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:06pm freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:58am:
No, actual muslims told me that LOL |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by mothra on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:11pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:51am:
This question of Fleadriver's blatantly shows his obsession. The simple answer is there are no good Nazis. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:18pm mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
If only we could find some instead of scatter-gunning everyone with a different viewpoint. Some people are clearly insane here. 8-) |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:22pm
Nobody has said that all Muslims, or even National Socialist party members for that matter - wanted to kill people - most do not, but are simply wanting to get on with their life.... so when you give us the magic formula to find which ones are and which aren't intent on killing etc, let us know.
In the meantime Western societies are forced to play-catch-up since they follow the basic rule of not condemning without evidence, and thus they are forced to wait until clear 'hot spots' develop, which can then be watched - NONE of which provides security against the 'single mad dog' attacker. I note that along with apparent rising concerns over 'right wing terrorists' here, there is a simultaneous rise in concerns over 'sleepers' arriving as migrants. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:22pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:18pm:
I have never called someone a Nazi without explaining why. You have always run from discussing it. Not everyone is a Nazi. You can't use that to insist no one is |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:30pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
Your reasons are as thick as a piece of toilet paper riding on a toilet bowl water pan... and hold together as well. You simply use one insane claim to support another, then say you've justified insanity... lot of that going around. Laughing at someone's stupidity is not running.. you are the one running from reality. Get help... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:33pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:06pm:
What did they say that the majority of Muslims believe? mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
Are there any good Muslims? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:33pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:57am:
Which book did you read that in? Step into your extensive library and tell us. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:35pm Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:33pm:
I know in both cases what people believe from talking to them, but I've read books on Nazism. I've not read books on the evils of Islam because i don't read fiction |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:41pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:35pm:
Joke Of The Week!! |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:43pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:35pm:
Yeah, right..... In your school days, mong. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:43pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:41pm:
Three replies in 5 minutes so obviously this one was low effort. Need a lie down? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:57pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:43pm:
You want Boomers dead, by your own admission ... what's that make you? It makes you a fascist Stalinist. Wanting Boomers dead is the equivalent of Stalin wanting the Kulaks dead |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:19pm mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:26am:
Same answer from me. If they are not interested, they will not join. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:22pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:57pm:
How to respond to this illiterate drivel? A stalinist can't be a fascist. Stalin killed kulaks. I am happy to let nature take it's course. I'm merely excited by the idea of less regressive hateful scum having a vote |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:59pm
The ABC article is racist, there's no doubt about it. The "video gamers" theme is only being used to rubbish whities, there's not one mention of blacks or coloureds, when they can be extreme rightwing as well. So the article is a bitch about whities when it should be a balanced and non-racist reminder of the dangers posed by violence in videos on young minds.
The ABC is failing to do balanced reporting ... "balance" is what they're supposed to be all about Mothra, you should be ashamed of yourself, stirring up trouble by posting that article without thinking first about what you were doing. You are simply making things worse. Try te be more unifying in the future will you No violence can be condoned, and that "punch" was more of a solid push on her forehead, watch the video, still can't be condoned but she came in from out of town to counter the other political side ... she (Emily Rose Marshall, she appeared in pornography) is a well known belligerent who many are aware of. Staying home would have been her better option ... if you disagree with that, then why would you encourage violence? You think a push with a fist is bad? "An antifa activist lobbed a tear gas canister, but the wind blew the cloud back" "One antifa man who hit someone in the head with a bike lock was allegedly identified through a meticulous effort of combing through images of the rally and matching the sunglasses and facial hair of an unmasked man with the masked bike lock wielder’s." Think before you post Mothra, I would sincerely hope you don't have your own supply of tear gas canisters and bike locks ready for action |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:01pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
I love watching right wing people expose their hate and mental incompetence. Keep it up. Casual onlookers hate the right wing because of idiots like you. It's working |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:06pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:01pm:
You couldn't debated you way out of a wet paper bag. Extreme fascist Stalinists such as yourself have no idea how to |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 6:06pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 2:01pm:
Graduate of the Goebbels School Of Repetitive Posting are you? You wouldn't know what 'right wing' is... since you fantasise that anyone who disagrees with you is a Fascist. You are mad. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2022 at 6:07pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Do not ask for what is not possible..................... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 6:43am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
Goebbels said accuse others of the thing you do. Which is what the right do, but it's a meaningless statement because we can clearly throw it at each other. What's needed is actual debate, and you are too dense for that. I reply to people. You sometimes reply to me five times, so, again, you lack self awareness. I have defined right wing. I defined fascism and you cried like a schoolgirl. The issue is that you have fascist tendencies and fear debate, so you need to insist I use the word unreasonably. You are a joke. I get up in the morning and laugh at your incessant drivel all over these forums, crying that I am smarter and better than you. Are you in a nursing home? It would be delicious if you're about 45 and just mentally challenged, that means you'll need to live a lot longer as your values burn to the ground around you. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 8:56am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 6:43am:
You wish a lot of death, destruction and mysery on people you never met just because they disagree with you on some minor matters. Not very much in control of your emotions, are you, ratso. Quite on the manic obsessive hyperactive spectrum, aren't you, with lashings of narcissistic histrionic disorder: hate others, adore yourself. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:02am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 8:56am:
I agree that wanting to kill my friends and destroy society is a small matter. But I've never wished death or destruction on people. You are projecting your values onto me. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:31am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:02am:
The nutcase institution you escaped from needs to be made a lot more secure |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:34am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:31am:
Because he said I'm silly to care about people who want my friends dead? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:42am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:02am:
Who here wanted to kill your friends and destroy society, overwrought, twitchy ratso?? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:45am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:42am:
People here regularly wish harm on POC, on people who are gay or trans, and people who have morals. You are the good extremists. You just talk about harming people, so that people like Tarrant feel justified in doing so |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:56am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:45am:
Wish harm??? How, twitchy ratso??? Misgendering them? Pointing out the scope for personal responsibility? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:58am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:56am:
The hate you pour on minorities both justifies the violence they experience from people willing to act out your ideas, and in general harms their mental health, leading to poor life outcomes As you well know 'Personal responsibility for how you were born'. Piss off |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:14am
POC cause enough trouble for themselves, no need to help them out there... same with all the other whingers... if the cap fits, wear it...
The Lefty Comedy Hour |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:29am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:42am:
No one ..... but FutureWank wants boomers to lay down and die, he's said that often enough |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:33am
Recent experience here is that Alt-left groups are targeting Baby Boomer internet users.....
Pure madness..... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:35am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:29am:
Laugh at him - he's entered that group that is in most danger of everything...... funny to watch in his case... twists and kicks like a horse thief on a rope... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2022 at 10:35am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:58am:
I am sensing your acute self-awareness of your own birth defect. What is it? As for hate for minorities - Aborigines in remote areas and urban ghettos self- inflict harm on themselves and each other. But many dont. And so personal character DOES come into it. Mania about the victimhood of 'miinorities' is obscene. It's an idioc game well suited to your blinkered, addled mind. It can be sliced and diced endlessly without any need for coherence - your kind of moronic excessive compulsive mind. A 'minority' in one issue is in the 'majority' in others. All you stupid diversity mongers are ignoring natural variety in people and drive for stultifying ideological uniformity. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by freediver on Jul 18th, 2022 at 7:13pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 9:45am:
Hypocrit. You regularly tell us who you think needs to die. It seems to be a diverse and expansive group. You also claim people here have threatened to kill you. But it was a lie. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 8:11pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 6:43am:
Well - there ya go!! You're the one on a curfew.... :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you're the one trying to impose your radical views on others ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you're the one who uses abuse and insult and name-calling to push your ideas because you have nothing else .... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Thanks for your confession... they say it's good for the soul.... ;) Oh - and you're a liar. |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2022 at 8:13pm freediver wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 7:13pm:
She who must not be named for fear of her early resurrection said that someone had accused Lefty of being a paedophile - maybe that's what brought the death threats... and the curfew... Another lie - he said the cops had come in response to his complaint of death threats, and they went away laughing their heads off behind his back .... yesterday he said they'd proceeded and he was to be a witness.... fantasising, d'ya think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF50F10GaMY |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:31am John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:57am:
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:34am Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:31am:
This looks like capitalism to me. So what? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:46am Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:31am:
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:48am Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:46am:
The question is ,why do we let right wing people vote when they are demonstrably stupid? |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 4:08pm
Same as any other group.... they're called 'rights' in our kind of society... I guess you missed that ...
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Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 4:15pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 4:08pm:
But we limit the rights of those who use them to harm others.... |
Title: Re: Alt-right groups are targeting young video gamers Post by John Smith on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 4:16pm Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2022 at 9:31am:
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