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Title: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:32pm “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment,” Donald Trump said in 2016. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Nek minnit! Former President Donald Trump, during his deposition in New York on Wednesday, ended up pleading the Fifth more than 440 times. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by MeisterEckhart on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:35pm
He wasn't going to waste his time as president playing golf, either,
And yet... |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:38pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:35pm:
It's almost as if he lies every time he opens his mouth. "... more than 440 times" |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by MeisterEckhart on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:38pm
Bullshitters are more harmful to society than liars and lying.
This is because liars actively consider the truth when they conceal it whilst bullshitters completely disregard the truth. "Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are." Harry G. Frankfurt - On Bullshit. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:40pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:35pm:
By the end of May, Trump had spent some 266 days of his first term at one of his golf clubs, outpacing former President Barack Obama, who had golfed 98 times by the same point in time during his time in office. 266 days. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:42pm American Citizen: "In our nearly 250 year history, U.S. presidents have pleaded the 5th a total of 440 times. And all of them were Donald Trump yesterday." |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 18th, 2022 at 7:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2022 at 1:42pm:
Now now, Greggery, that's unfair. Only mob bosses take the 5th. If you're innocent, why are you taking the 5th amendment? He'll spend his time as president in the Oval Office, working every day for the American people, not playing golf like Barrack Hussein Obama, can you believe that crap? He can't stand loser one term presidents. He'll win so much. He'd never live it down if he lost to a guy like Sleepy Joe Biden, imagine that. He'll pay down the deficit in his first term as president. No more government debt, think on it. He'll build a big, beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and we'll get Mexico to pay, believe me. He's the most honest politician we've seen since maybe George Washington. And that's debatable. Maybe the most honest. Lock her up? Yeah. Lock em all up. Mr Trump's promises always come true in the end, no? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by MeisterEckhart on Aug 18th, 2022 at 7:43pm Karnal wrote on Aug 18th, 2022 at 7:36pm:
And when they appear in court, they turn up in wheelchairs breathing from oxygen tanks. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 18th, 2022 at 8:12pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18th, 2022 at 7:43pm:
He's had a rough trot, Meister. Sheesh, give the guy a break already. So unfair. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Yadda on Aug 18th, 2022 at 9:50pm Well of course, if an individual is guilty of criminality, he/she should NOT, NOT, NOT, be compelled to provide 'evidence', which could then be construed by his enemies, to convict him/her of some crime. Demanding that a 'suspect' must cooperate with a prosecuting authority, simply looks like 'a fishing expedition'. It smacks of authoritarianism, in governance [by a state - think present day CCP China, think Russia under Putin, think North Korea, think Saudi Arabia, think the ISLAMIC republic of Iran.]. IMAGE..... https://quozio.com/image/v1/q/50853188/1004/lg/70b5952a1091.1/show-me-the-man-and-ill-show-you-the-crime.jpg "Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime," - secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria, to Joseph Stalin. If a prosecuting authority has any [real] evidence of any criminality, they should [and could] simply prosecute [in a court law] the particular 'suspect'. Why not ? Why would any honest prosecuting authority need a dungeon and 'thumbscrews', or, to issue threats of imprisonment 'if you do not cooperate with this inquiry'. ??? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 18th, 2022 at 10:58pm
NOT NOT NOT, no?
Quote:
https://amp.9news.com.au/article/e8101f40-b6b9-4f70-92ef-0d9c91e59e26 The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18th, 2022 at 11:01pm An alleged child rapist once said: “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 18th, 2022 at 11:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2022 at 11:01pm:
An alleged fraudster, Greggery. That 13 year old had it coming. You?, |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:53am "The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Former President Donald Trump, during his deposition in New York on Wednesday, ended up pleading the Fifth more than 440 times. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by walker on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:39am
More hilarium, Trump takes some time out of his busy golfing schedule to slap down the witch hunters and there is nothing they can do about it but go home and kick their dogs, Nancy is furious.
In other news Liz Cheney was annihilated by Trump and co, an obvious voter backlash for the jan6 saga and the raid on Don's home. The mid-terms and 2024 are looking good for Trump. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 11:14am “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 12:14pm Johnnie wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:39am:
I know, right? In other news, the Trump Organisation goes on trial in October after the accountant pleads GUILTY to fiddling the books. Another disgruntled former employee, Matty. Mr Trump hardly knew the man. But that's okay. The Trump Organisation can simply declare bankruptcy and Mr Trump can go back to the golf course. Better make that a public golf course, leftards. Mr Trump always was a man of the people, no? WITCH HUNT !!! |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 12:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 11:14am:
That's unfair, Greggery. People take the 5th all the time, as is their right in a free society, no? Whoever said that knows nothing about the law. RIGGED !!! |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:39pm Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 12:17pm:
I think you might be right. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:39pm:
Exactly. So now you see how unfair it is to prosecute him, no? Executive privilege, innit. |
Title: The Fifth Amendment Post by Panther on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:20pm
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⮞ NEVER EVER TALK TO THE POLICE ⮜ It is estimated that more innocent Americans are convicted every year of a crime they never committed because of what they said to the police, or what they said in court....wrongfully implicating themselves...unknowingly. PS....this guy talks very fast, so you may have to watch key statements more than once to understand the concept of using the 5th Amendment, & exercising your 5th Amendment Constitutional Rights. Quote:
So, always, always take the 5th Amendment, & never talk to the police. Always immediately demand an attorney be present in any interview by the police, establishing your 5th Amendment Rights! God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............AMERICA............ .. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:22pm Can someone refresh my memory - who was it who said this? “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” I'm curious. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Panther on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Regardless of who said that, An American who does not want to be wrongfully convicted of a crime they never committed, must always take the 5th Amendment to protect themselves. In the United States of America the police, nor the courts can Constitutionally force you to make any statements at any time........period! You do not have to speak to anyone regarding any potential criminal activity....or anything else for that matter......That's an American's Constitutional Right. God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............AMERICA............ |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:46pm Panther wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:34pm:
Aha, I see. So Americans must always take the 5th. Thanks for clearing that one up, Panther, but I'm curious. Who told such a heinous lie in the first place? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Panther on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:50pm Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
No, Americans SHOULD always exercise their 5th Amendment Rights.... |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Anyone? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:45pm Panther wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:50pm:
Right. So who was it that said only mob bosses take the 5th? This would be a serious legal misundertaking, no? Who would ever suggest such a thing? Who was it, Panther? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Patience, Greggery. Panther will explain in due course. As a legal scholar, he needs to review the brief and assess the law as it applies, as any good American would. Believe you me, if Panther uncovers any malfeasance in this matter, he will declare it immediately. There is nothing Panther hates more than a case of subjudice. Panther will not tolerate his proud Constitution being used in vain, no. He won't cop lies, it would not be American, and it most certainly wouldn't be right. Who said it, Panther? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 11:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Greggery, I'm as appalled as you are, I can assure you, but let's not jump to any conclusions here, okay? That would be despicable. Whoever did utter such lies should be dealt with accordingly. Anything else would be deplorable, as I'm sure you'll agree. It'll all come out in due course, you'll see. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Frank on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:59am greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
So he decided to follow Hillary's example, after all. No good? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:01am Frank wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:59am:
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Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Frank on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:17am greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:01am:
Geek to You: A former Hillary Clinton staffer who helped set up the former secretary of state’s private email server has vowed to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions after a congressional committee subpoenaed him, MSNBC confirmed late Wednesday. Bryan Pagliano, who worked for Clinton during her 2008 presidential campaign and at the State Department, has been identified in digital records as the person who set up her email server in 2009. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 10:41am Frank wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:17am:
Can you refresh my memory? How many times has Hillary invoked the fifth Amendment? For Mr Trump, it's more than 440 times. “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 12:31pm |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 20th, 2022 at 1:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 12:31pm: Yes Greggery, but a Hillary staffer took the 5th, so it's all good. Look, when Mr Trump said only mob bosses take the 5th, he really meant to thank Hillary's staff for the idea. It's the same as the emails. When Hillary's staff set her account up on a private server, Mr Trump decided to borrow the idea as prez. When he said he'd lock her up and signed in laws making it a jailable felony to steal government records, he really planned on knocking off 50 boxes worth. You can hardly blame Mr Trump for that, now can you? Can you see where the old boy is coming from now? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 20th, 2022 at 1:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 10:41am:
I know, but Panther's saying Hillary should have taken the 5th too. He says Americans must always take the 5th Amendment to protect themselves. It's a kind of patriotic duty, like hugging the American flag. You don't have to do it, but it signals honour and integrity. If only Americans were less like Hillary and more like Mr Trump, no? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by walker on Aug 20th, 2022 at 5:38pm
The FBI were going to make public the details of 'some of the affidavit used to raid Don's home as ordered by the courts a couple of days ago at the request of the media but nothing yet, it must be the weekend there or Nancy doesn't want anyone to know anything.
No wonder Don took the 5th, he cant be fkkd with their BS anymore. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 5:43pm “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by walker on Aug 20th, 2022 at 5:49pm
At best this is a good smoke screen for the Dopey ones failures and dementia.
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Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by aquascoot on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:05pm
wow,
the big fella is still the focus of attention. what we focus on , we think is "important" how does the big fella maintain so much attention? how does this extraordinary individual continue to remain at the cause whilst so many are stuck at the effect. anybody heard from karmilla harris? why does she get no attention. Joe still gets some attention, mainly from Dr Jill who has to roll him to prevent bed sores and fetch his wheelie walker |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:16pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
She's not a criminal accused of raping children. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Frank on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:28pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
The gweggy khunts of this world would be LOST and aimless without Trump/Bushitler/Howard/Abbott/Reagan etc. The permanent derangement must be fed permanently. Those people were a kind of solution. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/51294/waiting-for-the-barbarians |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by aquascoot on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:35pm Frank wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:28pm:
there isnt a lower paradigm then waking up in the morning with no plan of your own and then being sucked into someone elses plan. there is no paradigm lower then always being in reaction and living at the effect. |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:04pm “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:04pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 6:05pm:
Actually, I think you'll find we were discussing Hillary, after the old boy told us she started it and Panther informed us of our American friends' patriotic duty to take the 5th. Do you have an opinion or would you rather signal your virtue? |
Title: Re: The Fifth Amendment Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 21st, 2022 at 9:49am “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” |
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