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Message started by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 8:45am

Title: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 8:45am

Quote:
Allen Weisselberg, Trump Organization financial chief, pleads guilty to tax fraud

Allen Weisselberg, chief financial officer of Donald Trump’s company and one of his most trusted executives, pleaded guilty to tax violations on Thursday, further complicating the former president’s legal woes.

Weisselberg, 75, has worked for the Trump family for five decades. He was charged with accepting more than $1.7m in off-the-books compensation from the former president’s company, including untaxed perks like rent, car payments and school tuition.

Quizzed repeatedly by judge Juan Merchan about whether he and the Trump Organization had committed criminal conduct in relation to the charges, Weisselberg repeated again and again: “Yes, your honor.”

Weisselberg pleaded guilty to 15 charges and faced a 15-year sentence. Under the agreement, he is expected to serve a five-month prison term at New York’s notorious Rikers Island jail. He will also have to pay back close to $2m in taxes he owed, prosecutors said in court.

The Trump Organization is preparing to go to trial in October, facing similar charges of illicit business practices, and as part of the agreement, Weisselberg has agreed to testify against the company. He has refused to testify against Trump himself.

Last week, Trump sat for a deposition in the parallel civil investigation by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, into allegations that Trump’s company misled lenders and tax authorities about asset values. Trump invoked his fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination more than 400 times.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/18/allen-weisselberg-trump-organization-pleads-guilty-tax-fraud

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no?

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Yadda on Aug 19th, 2022 at 8:53am


greggery,

OP......

What about all of the child molesting ?

Is that going to remain hidden ?           /sarc off




Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:04am

Yadda wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 8:53am:


greggery,

OP......

What about all of the child molesting ?

Is that going to remain hidden ?           /sarc off


Good point, Y. Not only is Mr Trump an alleged fraudster, he's also an alleged child rapist.

He's a little bit naughty. Like all great men, he's no namby-pamby stickler for the rules, oh no.

After all, where would we be if Caesar didn't cross the Rubicon?

No naughty emperors, no fall of Rome, no dark ages. NOT NOT NOT, no?

BREAKING news, leftards: Mr Trump prefers to say YES. Yes to building the wall, yes to keeping them out, yes to locking her up. Oh, YES.

I'll have what she's having, no?

Yes!

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by AiA on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:24am
but her emails!

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 12:06pm

AiA wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:24am:
but her emails!


Excellent point, A.

Yes, Mr Trump's accountant might have pleaded GUILTY for fiddling Mr Trump's books, yes Mr Trump might have taken the 5th, and yes, Mr Trump might be up on charges under the treason act for a good 50 boxes of top secret government documents knocked off from the White House on his way out.

But where's Hillary's emails? Anybody?

Russia, if you're listening...

Crickets chirping, A. So typical of the leftards, no?


Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Xavier on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:48pm
It's ok for Trump to be guilty of 'anything'.
He himself put his cards on the table for the Public to say "Hey, I'm just an amateur with no Political experience. How about a little 'ranga' male as a novelty President too, considering the Democrats gave you the novelty of 'First Black Man' with the hope of 'First (white) Woman' next?"

What's not ok is for Biden, who has decades of Political experience and being so institutionalised that he would no who the 'people' of America are outside - doing the wrong thing.

Most incompetent and worst Poll Rating President in History.
Let alone, negating Trump's efforts of 'peaceful' international solutions, in favour of turning nations like Ukraine into another bloodbath.

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:53pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:48pm:
It's ok for Trump to be guilty of 'anything'.
He himself put his cards on the table for the Public to say "Hey, I'm just an amateur with no Political experience. How about a little 'ranga' male as a novelty President too, considering the Democrats gave you the novelty of 'First Black Man' with the hope of 'First (white) Woman' next?"


In 2016, the public said "We want Hillary".

And in 2020, the public said "We want Biden".

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 4:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:48pm:
It's ok for Trump to be guilty of 'anything'.
He himself put his cards on the table for the Public to say "Hey, I'm just an amateur with no Political experience. How about a little 'ranga' male as a novelty President too, considering the Democrats gave you the novelty of 'First Black Man' with the hope of 'First (white) Woman' next?"


In 2016, the public said "We want Hillary".

And in 2020, the public said "We want Biden".


Yes, Greggery, but I think what Matty's saying is it's okay for Mr Trump to become prez because, you know. He wants to.

Mr Trump wants to keep top secret government records in his basement. It's okay.

Mr Trump wants to fiddle his books and take the 5th. That's okay too.

If Mr Trump wants to be prez, I can't see why the leftards would try to stand in the way.

That's just mean, no?


Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:08pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:04am:
Good point, Y. Not only is Mr Trump an alleged fraudster, he's also an alleged child rapist...


I hadn't heard of this.     Link(s) please.



Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:16pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:04am:
Good point, Y. Not only is Mr Trump an alleged fraudster, he's also an alleged child rapist...


I hadn't heard of this.     Link(s) please.


Greggery? Would you mind doing the honours?

Geoff's still in the dark.

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:19pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 10:04am:
Good point, Y. Not only is Mr Trump an alleged fraudster, he's also an alleged child rapist...


I hadn't heard of this.     Link(s) please.


You said that once before, and I gave you the link(s).

Maybe you have a bad memory.

But sure, here it is again:

http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

Official court documents alleging that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped a child and then threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone afterwards.

"10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by AiA on Aug 20th, 2022 at 2:02am
He will be serving his time at Rikers - not exactly the comfort he is so used to.

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Xavier on Aug 20th, 2022 at 5:47am

Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:48pm:
It's ok for Trump to be guilty of 'anything'.
He himself put his cards on the table for the Public to say "Hey, I'm just an amateur with no Political experience. How about a little 'ranga' male as a novelty President too, considering the Democrats gave you the novelty of 'First Black Man' with the hope of 'First (white) Woman' next?"


In 2016, the public said "We want Hillary".

And in 2020, the public said "We want Biden".


Yes, Greggery, but I think what Matty's saying is it's okay for Mr Trump to become prez because, you know. He wants to.

Mr Trump wants to keep top secret government records in his basement. It's okay.

Mr Trump wants to fiddle his books and take the 5th. That's okay too.

If Mr Trump wants to be prez, I can't see why the leftards would try to stand in the way.

That's just mean, no?

No different to a Black Man wanting to be the 'first' black man as a President or a White woman being the 'first' woman President, no?
Just a novelty agenda for the votes.
Why not a little 'ranga' man for President?

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 20th, 2022 at 2:15pm

Quote:
Trump Organization financial chief pled guilty to tax fraud after being “Trump’s No 2 guy for the last 40 years”, which led the Daily Show host to note: “Can we just take a moment to appreciate how many people associated with Donald Trump have ended up in prison?”

He proceeded to then list: “lawyer, campaign manager, his deputy campaign chairman, now the chief financial officer of his organisation”.

Noah joked: “Usually you gotta run a drug cartel to have this many friends doing hard time … at this point it’s basically El Chapo and Donald Trump.”


https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/19/trevor-noah-trump-allen-weisselberg

Allen Weisselberg, Mike Cohen, Mike Flynn, Roger Stone, Sloppy Steve, Paul Manafort. On and on it goes.

So unfair, no?

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 20th, 2022 at 2:19pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 5:47am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 1:48pm:
It's ok for Trump to be guilty of 'anything'.
He himself put his cards on the table for the Public to say "Hey, I'm just an amateur with no Political experience. How about a little 'ranga' male as a novelty President too, considering the Democrats gave you the novelty of 'First Black Man' with the hope of 'First (white) Woman' next?"


In 2016, the public said "We want Hillary".

And in 2020, the public said "We want Biden".


Yes, Greggery, but I think what Matty's saying is it's okay for Mr Trump to become prez because, you know. He wants to.

Mr Trump wants to keep top secret government records in his basement. It's okay.

Mr Trump wants to fiddle his books and take the 5th. That's okay too.

If Mr Trump wants to be prez, I can't see why the leftards would try to stand in the way.

That's just mean, no?

No different to a Black Man wanting to be the 'first' black man as a President or a White woman being the 'first' woman President, no?
Just a novelty agenda for the votes.
Why not a little 'ranga' man for President?


Good point, JaSin. If Hillary and Obama can launch insurrections, why not Mr Trump?

You gotta have a dream, no?

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:19pm:
...http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

Official court documents alleging that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped a child and then threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone afterwards.

"10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000

Thanks for the link.  Sometimes us old farts do suffer from a faulty memory LOL.

But...

On Nov 4, 2016, "Jane Doe" told her lawyers to withdraw her lawsuit. (Around this
time, the Daily Mail of London became the only media outlet to get photos and a
face-to-face interview with her.) There is currently no active lawsuit.

—Which meant Trump had no case to answer.





Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:16pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:19pm:
...http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

Official court documents alleging that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped a child and then threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone afterwards.

"10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000

Thanks for the link.  Sometimes us old farts do suffer from a faulty memory LOL.

But...

On Nov 4, 2016, "Jane Doe" told her lawyers to withdraw her lawsuit. (Around this
time, the Daily Mail of London became the only media outlet to get photos and a
face-to-face interview with her.) There is currently no active lawsuit.

—Which meant Trump had no case to answer.


Nobody said there was an active lawsuit.

The claim fact is, Donald Trump is an alleged child rapist.

Moreover, the lawsuit was withdrawn because of alleged threats to her life.

Coincidentally, in the official court documents detailing the alleged rape, she says Trump told her he would kill her and her family if she told anyone about it.

To summarise: Donald Trump has been accused in a court of law of raping a small child, and this accusation has never been disproven in a court of law (or anywhere else) - this is an indisputable fact.

Title: Re: GUILTY
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 8:16pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 20th, 2022 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2022 at 6:19pm:
...http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

Official court documents alleging that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped a child and then threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone afterwards.

"10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000

Thanks for the link.  Sometimes us old farts do suffer from a faulty memory LOL.

But...

On Nov 4, 2016, "Jane Doe" told her lawyers to withdraw her lawsuit. (Around this
time, the Daily Mail of London became the only media outlet to get photos and a
face-to-face interview with her.) There is currently no active lawsuit.

—Which meant Trump had no case to answer.


Nobody said there was an active lawsuit.

The claim fact is, Donald Trump is an alleged child rapist.

Moreover, the lawsuit was withdrawn because of alleged threats to her life.

Coincidentally, in the official court documents detailing the alleged rape, she says Trump told her he would kill her and her family if she told anyone about it.

To summarise: Donald Trump has been accused in a court of law of raping a small child, and this accusation has never been disproven in a court of law (or anywhere else) - this is an indisputable fact.


Oh my, Greggery, that's awful. A poor little child, you say? Anally rogered? How terrible.

Hang on, did you say Mr Trump?

Oh. That's okay then, I thought you meant somebody else.

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