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Message started by Xavier on Sep 5th, 2022 at 5:07pm

Title: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Xavier on Sep 5th, 2022 at 5:07pm
I'm putting my money on Trump becoming the Comeback King.
The Democrats had their chance and came up looking stupid with their Biden answer that was promoted as much better than Trump, but was anything but - a con by the Media as well.

So where do you all stand?
Poll away.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2022 at 5:55pm

Another Republican Candidate - Ron DeSantis.

Every time Trump runs for President he loses the popular poll by more votes each time.

3,000,000 the first time and 7,000,000 the second.

It'll be 10,000,000 if he tries again, and that won't get him over the line for the electoral college votes.

The GOP won't risk putting him up again - he's finished.

And, Biden won't run and the Dems don't really have a candidate that could win (plus, the Republicans are doing everything they can to rig the 2024 election).

DeSantis is the last person in the world I want to see win (I'd much rather see Trump win if it's a Republican), but I can't really see any other option.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Bobby. on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:13pm


Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Bobby. on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:20pm

Joe Biden is about as popular as a Bondi cigar in a swimming pool.
He should be given some slippers and a dressing gown and sent
to a rest home for geriatrics.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:21pm
Trump should be unelectable.

Too many Republicans will not vote for him.

Beside Putin may be too busy to run another election campaign for Trump.

He should go to prison but likely won't.

Prison V President would be an interesting bet.  Maybe 40% V 15%

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by John Smith on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:26pm
It won't be Trump that's for sure.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:30pm
Nobody wants Trump especially the Republicans.

The Longer that Trump stays on the scene the longer it will be till the republicans can be relevant again.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by mothra on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:08pm

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:26pm

mothra wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:08pm:


I don't think he'll go back on his word.

Surely not.



He'll do the honourable thing and refuse to nominate.



Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by mothra on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:38pm
Meanwhile ....


Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:41pm

mothra wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:38pm:
Meanwhile ....




Lol    ;D


Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:05pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


It's definitely going to be a Republican. Trump or DeSantis. I'm looking forward to seeing DeSantis being the next President of the USA.


Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:15pm
They say that DeSantis's biggest mistake isn't that he went to Cancun but that he came back.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:19pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


And everyone was talking about Hitler in 1939.

If a Republican wins, it won't be Trump - he's finished.

It'll be DeSantis.

And that's bad, because he's as evil & immoral as Trump but only half as stupid.

If it has to be a Republican, I'd much rather see it be Donald J. Trump.



Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Bobby. on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:20pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


It's definitely going to be a Republican. Trump or DeSantis. I'm looking forward to seeing DeSantis being the next President of the USA.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by John Smith on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
They say that DeSantis's biggest mistake isn't that he went to Cancun but that he came back.



Trump and other MAGA farkwits are turning on Desantis because trump is complaining that Desantis is 'copying' his style  :D :D :D

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-desantis-rip-off-complaints-1234583383/

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


It's definitely going to be a Republican. Trump or DeSantis. I'm looking forward to seeing DeSantis being the next President of the USA.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis


Pretty bloody impressive credentials. And unlike old age demented Biden...DeSantis is Gen X (and Italian 😎)

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:43pm
DeSantis is a concern as he is a mini me of Trump who may actually be smart enough to run a successful insurrection.

You could say he is flexible but in his case it comes from having no spine.

Do the US really want another President who is going to follow the sun with a beach holiday when there is a cold emergency at home and people are dying because of his own incompetence or worse. ?

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:44pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
They say that DeSantis's biggest mistake isn't that he went to Cancun but that he came back.



Trump and other MAGA farkwits are turning on Desantis because trump is complaining that Desantis is 'copying' his style  :D :D :D

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-desantis-rip-off-complaints-1234583383/


But at least he is only a little orange.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Xavier on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:52pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


I know. Trump was the most 'viewed' President in history when he was President.
They still couldn't stop talking about him after he was President.
And now they still can't stop thinking about Trump.

The man has a gift. ;)

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Xavier on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:56pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
They say that DeSantis's biggest mistake isn't that he went to Cancun but that he came back.



Trump and other MAGA farkwits are turning on Desantis because trump is complaining that Desantis is 'copying' his style  :D :D :D

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-desantis-rip-off-complaints-1234583383/


But at least he is only a little orange.

See. You're a hypocritical racist. Your Media narrative doesn't include red-haired males does it? Racism?
Only Media 'inclusive' races and sex are only allowed to play President apparently.
Well guess what, the Media isn't Politics.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2022 at 9:27pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
They say that DeSantis's biggest mistake isn't that he went to Cancun but that he came back.



Trump and other MAGA farkwits are turning on Desantis because trump is complaining that Desantis is 'copying' his style  :D :D :D

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-desantis-rip-off-complaints-1234583383/


But at least he is only a little orange.

See. You're a hypocritical racist. Your Media narrative doesn't include red-haired males does it? Racism?
Only Media 'inclusive' races and sex are only allowed to play President apparently.
Well guess what, the Media isn't Politics.



It's almost there isn't it but a little part of it is understandable, I am confident that you can fix that.

I don't think that Ron is a Ranga - is he ?

The problem with Won isn't his hair colour or anything you infer, It is just that his performance has been despicable.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Xavier on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:21am
Don't try to medically spin it.
You all call him the Fat Orange Man.
Racism.

Trump will be President.
Biden, Pelosi, Harris will be in Prison.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:17am

Jasin wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:21am:
Don't try to medically spin it.
You all call him the Fat Orange Man.
Racism.

Trump will be President.
Biden, Pelosi, Harris will be in Prison.


Visiting who?

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:18am

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


I know. Trump was the most 'viewed' President in history when he was President.


As was Hitler.


Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Bobby. on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:19am

Jasin wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:21am:
Don't try to medically spin it.
You all call him the Fat Orange Man.
Racism.

Trump will be President.
Biden, Pelosi, Harris will be in Prison.



Lock them up.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:20am

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Fuzzball on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:26pm:
I don't think he'll go back on his word.


UNLIKE YOU.....
Surely.


He'll do the honourable thing.

BUT YOU DIDN'T !

;D ;D ;D





Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:08am

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:26pm:
I don't think he'll go back on his word.



He'll do the honourable thing.


Indeed.

He's never lied before.

His entire life has been built on being honourable.

I don't see him changing his ways this late in life - he'll do the honourable thing.


Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Marla on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:19am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:30pm:
Nobody wants Trump especially the Republicans.

The Longer that Trump stays on the scene the longer it will be till the republicans can be relevant again.



Right now it seems like the Democrats are likely to gain seats in the Senate, but the House could be up for grabs, mostly due to gerrymandered redistricting which always happens once a decade. With more state legislatures under Republican control, you can guess who the gerrymandering favored. Fortunately most of those are smaller states, so they don't have as many house seats up for grabs. (Wyoming, for example... which just traded Liz Cheney in for a full blown MAGAtt... only has one House seat for the entire state)

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Marla on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:25am

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
It won't be Trump that's for sure.


Given how unstable the US democracy is at the moment it's much more important to win the senate so it does not matter if ol' orange F A T T Y runs or not.

As far as judicial appointments go, that too is more important than ol' orange F A T T Y.. As far as any legislation being passed... all that stuff that passed the House and died in the Senate over the last few years would remain dead if the House flipped over to Joe... er.... Kevin McCarthy and a bunch of teabaggers & MAGAtts running the committees.

As much as I hate "single issue" elections, the right wing dumbasses on the Extreme Court pretty much handed the corporate media the basis for the "it's all about abortion" narrative. Which admittedly is at least a valid issue as opposed to their previous narrative of "sure we suck ass, but we still suck less ass than Trump".

So if that brings voters to the polls who might otherwise skip a mid term election, so be it.... I'll just hope these voters also care about the other important issues like climate change, getting corporate money out of politics, and tearing down this global predatory capitalism before we all go bankrupt at the grocery store and/or gas station.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by John Smith on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:40am

Marla wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
It won't be Trump that's for sure.


Given how unstable the US democracy is at the moment it's much more important to win the senate so it does not matter if ol' orange F A T T Y runs or not.

As far as judicial appointments go, that too is more important than ol' orange F A T T Y.. As far as any legislation being passed... all that stuff that passed the House and died in the Senate over the last few years would remain dead if the House flipped over to Joe... er.... Kevin McCarthy and a bunch of teabaggers & MAGAtts running the committees.

As much as I hate "single issue" elections, the right wing dumbasses on the Extreme Court pretty much handed the corporate media the basis for the "it's all about abortion" narrative. Which admittedly is at least a valid issue as opposed to their previous narrative of "sure we suck ass, but we still suck less ass than Trump".

So if that brings voters to the polls who might otherwise skip a mid term election, so be it.... I'll just hope these voters also care about the other important issues like climate change, getting corporate money out of politics, and tearing down this global predatory capitalism before we all go bankrupt at the grocery store and/or gas station.


I agree with that. Overturning Roe v wade was the democrats wet dream. It had almost guaranteed them the midterms.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Dnarever on Sep 6th, 2022 at 2:43pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:40am:

Marla wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
It won't be Trump that's for sure.


Given how unstable the US democracy is at the moment it's much more important to win the senate so it does not matter if ol' orange F A T T Y runs or not.

As far as judicial appointments go, that too is more important than ol' orange F A T T Y.. As far as any legislation being passed... all that stuff that passed the House and died in the Senate over the last few years would remain dead if the House flipped over to Joe... er.... Kevin McCarthy and a bunch of teabaggers & MAGAtts running the committees.

As much as I hate "single issue" elections, the right wing dumbasses on the Extreme Court pretty much handed the corporate media the basis for the "it's all about abortion" narrative. Which admittedly is at least a valid issue as opposed to their previous narrative of "sure we suck ass, but we still suck less ass than Trump".

So if that brings voters to the polls who might otherwise skip a mid term election, so be it.... I'll just hope these voters also care about the other important issues like climate change, getting corporate money out of politics, and tearing down this global predatory capitalism before we all go bankrupt at the grocery store and/or gas station.


I agree with that. Overturning Roe v wade was the democrats wet dream. It had almost guaranteed them the midterms.


The Democrats most likely still lose the senate just not by so much.

The Dems still have no real plan to deal with Roe V Wade except to continue to milk it for votes.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by John Smith on Sep 6th, 2022 at 3:59pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:40am:

Marla wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
It won't be Trump that's for sure.


Given how unstable the US democracy is at the moment it's much more important to win the senate so it does not matter if ol' orange F A T T Y runs or not.

As far as judicial appointments go, that too is more important than ol' orange F A T T Y.. As far as any legislation being passed... all that stuff that passed the House and died in the Senate over the last few years would remain dead if the House flipped over to Joe... er.... Kevin McCarthy and a bunch of teabaggers & MAGAtts running the committees.

As much as I hate "single issue" elections, the right wing dumbasses on the Extreme Court pretty much handed the corporate media the basis for the "it's all about abortion" narrative. Which admittedly is at least a valid issue as opposed to their previous narrative of "sure we suck ass, but we still suck less ass than Trump".

So if that brings voters to the polls who might otherwise skip a mid term election, so be it.... I'll just hope these voters also care about the other important issues like climate change, getting corporate money out of politics, and tearing down this global predatory capitalism before we all go bankrupt at the grocery store and/or gas station.


I agree with that. Overturning Roe v wade was the democrats wet dream. It had almost guaranteed them the midterms.


The Democrats most likely still lose the senate just not by so much.

The Dems still have no real plan to deal with Roe V Wade except to continue to milk it for votes.



Until they can replace some of the judges, I'm not sure there is much they can do.  Not unless they want to try for another amendment to the constitution ... which they bloody well should.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Xavier on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:46pm
So far...

TRUMP IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!

;D

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:53pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:46pm:
So far...

TRUMP IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!

;D


I hope so.

I'll be disappointed if he doesn't run for President in 2024.

Seeing him lose again will be the highlight of the year.


September 4, 2022:

"Last week, the weirdo — he's a weirdo — Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House, kissed my ass all night," Trump said during the speech, going on to mimic their alleged conversation: "'Sir, I'd love to have dinner, sir. I'd love to have dinner. I'd love to bring my lovely wife.' All right, Mark, come on in. 'Sir, you're number one on Facebook. I'd like to congratulate you.' Thank you very much, Mark. I appreciate it."

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:18am:

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


I know. Trump was the most 'viewed' President in history when he was President.


As was Hitler.


Hitler was never a President. He was a Chancellor.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2022 at 8:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:18am:

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


I know. Trump was the most 'viewed' President in history when he was President.


As was Hitler.


Hitler was never a President. He was a Chancellor.


Both leaders, dear.

But sure, you've found one major difference between Trump and Hitler.

I congratulate you unconditionally.

By the way, was Hitler ever accused of raping a child and then threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone about the alleged attack?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 7th, 2022 at 12:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:18am:

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:00pm:
Well it seems everyone is talking about Trump.    ;D


I know. Trump was the most 'viewed' President in history when he was President.


As was Hitler.


Hitler was never a President. He was a Chancellor.


Both leaders, dear.

But sure, you've found one major difference between Trump and Hitler.

I congratulate you unconditionally.

By the way, was Hitler ever accused of raping a child and then threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone about the alleged attack?

I'm curious.


Both Fuhrers, Greggery, it's best we get our terms correct.

I don't think Hitler ever allegedly raped a 13 year old though, so yes, there's a clear difference between these two Alphas.

Lisa is technically correct on that point.

Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 7th, 2022 at 2:06pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
I'm putting my money on Trump becoming the Comeback King.
The Democrats had their chance and came up looking stupid with their Biden answer that was promoted as much better than Trump, but was anything but - a con by the Media as well.

So where do you all stand?
Poll away.

I voted for "another Democrat candidate".

I'd say there's NO way Biden could be a candidate, due in part to
his then age of 83 years.  Even now he stumbles with responses,
seems confused by some questions, makes verbal gaffes, and relies
too much on what he considers humorous throw-away comments
when he's cornered.  Of course I did, and do, respect him far more
that the arrogant buffoon he replaced—who'll himself be 78 in 2024,
or only one year younger than Biden is now.

I don't know enough about American politicians at ground zero, so to
speak, but I might suggest the then 61-year-old Kamala Harris as my
first choice, or Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth Warren?

—And as horrible it sounds assuming a Republican win, and assuming
   Trump won't be a candidate, I'd guess  Liz Cheney, Greg Abbott, or
   Ron de Santis?



Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 7th, 2022 at 2:09pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:46pm:
So far...

TRUMP IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!

That would be the absolute best music to the ears of the Democrats, as
it'd guarantee the Republicans losing in 2024.      Let's hope he runs.



Title: Re: Next President Poll/Bet
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 7th, 2022 at 2:13pm

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 7th, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 5th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
I'm putting my money on Trump becoming the Comeback King.
The Democrats had their chance and came up looking stupid with their Biden answer that was promoted as much better than Trump, but was anything but - a con by the Media as well.

So where do you all stand?
Poll away.

I voted for "another Democrat candidate".

I'd say there's NO way Biden could be a candidate, due in part to
his then age of 83 years.  Even now he stumbles with responses,
seems confused by some questions, makes verbal gaffes, and relies
too much on what he considers humorous throw-away comments
when he's cornered.  Of course I did, and do, respect him far more
that the arrogant buffoon he replaced—who'll himself be 78 in 2024,
or only one year younger than Biden is now.

I don't know enough about American politicians at ground zero, so to
speak, but I might suggest the then 61-year-old Kamala Harris as my
first choice, or Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth Warren?

—And as horrible it sounds assuming a Republican win, and assuming
   Trump won't be a candidate, I'd guess  Liz Cheney, Greg Abbott, or
   Ron de Santis?


Yep, agree with what you say about Biden - he won't run.

I think Pete Buttigieg would be the front runner for the Dems, and the only one in the race for the Republican nomination is DeSantis (if the orange douchebag doesn't run).

But I really do hope Mango Mussolini puts his little hand up - it would be so good to watch him lose again.


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