Post by aquascoot on Sep 17th, 2022 at 6:34pm
one wonders how dumb the public must be when they accept this person as the EU's expert on health
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Member Run Boards >> Coronavirus >> Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1662640536 Message started by Yadda on Sep 8th, 2022 at 10:35pm |
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Title: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Yadda on Sep 8th, 2022 at 10:35pm Vaccine-boosted adults twice as likely to be hospitalized for COVID WWW search.... Vaccine-boosted adults twice as likely to be hospitalized for COVID [sarcastically....] But surely that report cannot be correct !!?? . Critical thinking.... "The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name." - Confucius They are not vaccines. Those injections are putting 'something' into the bodies of those who are willingly rolling up their sleeves. But those injections do not fit the dictionary definition of what a 'vaccine' is, and what a 'vaccine' should accomplish. . From the Oxford Dictionary..... WORDS..... vaccinate immunise immune ------ > n.b. EXAMINE THE TRADITIONAL, AND REAL DEFINITION, OF THE WORD VACCINATE !!!!! Dictionary; vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease. Dictionary; immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation. Dictionary; immune = = 1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells. 2 not susceptible. Pfiser, and Moderna, et al, imo, are not supplying the world, with any kind of product which could be characterised as being a 'VACCINE'. i.e. Because everyone knows that these products [these 'injections'] do not 'work' [as vaccines, they do not protect, against 'COVID', whatever 'COVID' is] !! AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT !!!! YET, THE VAST MAJORITY, REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND, THE VAST MAJORITY, ARE GOING ALONG [to get along] WITH THE EMPEROR WEARING NO CLOTHES. EMPEROR, ....NO CLOTHES. "The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name." - Confucius What we are being told, are 'COVID' vaccines, and 'boosters', ....are NOT vaccines. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by 0ktema on Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:28pm
This thread goes to show why an understanding statistics is vital to clear thinking!
In this instance viewing hospitalizations by total numbers, rather than percentage per cohort, is purposefully deceptive. Yadda, what's the difference between deception and sin? |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:15pm 0ktema wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:28pm:
The problem with these anti-vax/science/mask idiots is that they're too stupid to realise that what they're posting is deceptive. This pandemic really has shown us just how stupid people can really be. And it's frightening. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by random on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21pm
Is this why there is no 'Report' button in this forum?
Doesn't facebook and other social media ban posters like this? Is Yadda the Owner trolling us all? That would explain it. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
That is a bit harsh. It is a psychological reality that is quite normal. Your brain gets better at finding what you look for the longer you look for it Once looking for 'conspiracy' theories you will 'see' many of them. It's like when you buy a yellow car, suddenly you see many of them. It's a case of finding what suits your ideas and discarding anything else. Some of the world has become narrow minded and polarised. On the net you can find a group/site to support any idea you want. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Yadda on Sep 9th, 2022 at 10:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
That's true. . greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
That's true. . greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:15pm:
That's true. It frightens me !! |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 17th, 2022 at 2:30pm Yadda wrote on Sep 8th, 2022 at 10:35pm:
you lazy little princess ? I'm not doing your fucking research and homework for you ! |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by random on Sep 17th, 2022 at 3:19pm
I will try to help you out given that you get confused by science.
Here are some updated figures NSW Health COVID-19 Critical Intelligence Unit: COVID-19 Monitor, 26 May 2022 Rates per million Hospital rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 679.0 / 143.9 COVID-19 patients in ICU, as at 22 May 4.2 ICU rate among unvaccinated / two or more doses vaccinated population (aged 12+) 44.7 / 3.5 Given that there were 17 unvaxxed for every 83 vaxxed (at that time), that means that if there was equal numbers of each group, you would have approx five times more likely to be in ICU with no vaccination. Does that help? |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 17th, 2022 at 3:37pm random wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 3:19pm:
No. You can't help anti-vaxxers. They are not reasonable people. They don't know how to apply critical thinking. There is no statistic or fact that you can present to them that will ever change their minds. They are, in the purest sense, complete & utter morons. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by aquascoot on Sep 17th, 2022 at 6:31pm
the vaccine was "mildly" helpful
for pfizer to make $3000 a second off it, one would say it was more a financial success then a health success. politicians have gone radio silent on it. they arent even pushing boosters every state premier said that "jabs in arms " would end the pandemic. i understand their silence and i understand the people who got vaccinated doubling down on it. but eating healthy food, exercising and not being fat are much better and cheaper long term strategies. they just arent as easy to sell or to make a profit off |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by aquascoot on Sep 17th, 2022 at 6:34pm
one wonders how dumb the public must be when they accept this person as the EU's expert on health
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by random on Sep 17th, 2022 at 6:35pm
aquastupid.
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 17th, 2022 at 7:11pm random wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 6:35pm:
I told you so. You can't help anti-vaxxers. They are not reasonable people. They don't know how to apply critical thinking. There is no statistic or fact that you can present to them that will ever change their minds. They are, in the purest/literal sense, complete & utter morons. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 17th, 2022 at 8:25pm random wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 3:19pm:
I though the difference would have been more than that. MUCH more. It should be kept in mind that those that are most at risk are pretty much ALL vaccinated. Those that are unvaccinated are much more likely to be young, fit and healthy. A very low risk profile. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Johnnie on Sep 17th, 2022 at 9:39pm
The WHO have pretty much declared this pandemic over, is anyone lining up for more shots now, you are only fully vaxxed when? was that the 2nd 3rd or 5th shot.
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by AusGeoff on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:17pm
The opening claims by Yadda are totally erroneous, ill-informed, and without
any basis of accredited supporting clinical evidence. I can only assume that he or she is a vehement anti-vaxxer who refuses to accept the positive global statistics supporting vaccination against COVID and its variants. The simple fact that around 98% of COVID patients in ICUs on oxygen support are unvaccinated tells the true story. A 2021 Health Department study in the ACT reported that 76.9% of hospitalised COVID patients were unvaccinated, and 19.4% were only partially vaccinated. The remaining 4% were considered break-through infections (fully vaccinated). Today from the New York Times... For the first time, the US is rolling out COVID vaccines updated to match variants that are currently dominant, as well as the original strain. This bivalent character will provide a better response to the most threatening variants today but probably to future variants, too, because when the immune system faces different versions of the same virus it generates broader protections overall. Not only will a booster with the new vaccines decrease the likelihood of infection and severe illness and help reduce transmission of the virus; it could also decrease the likelihood of developing long COVID. The "bad" news? The boosters are getting so little fanfare, and so much unfounded skepticism, that too few people might get them, and lots of people who need not get sick, suffer or die will get sick, suffer or die. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Carl D on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:19pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 9:39pm:
WHO says 'we can see the finish line' for the COVID-19 pandemic but it's not over yet Quote:
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Which is exactly what Australia (and most of the western world) has done. So... no Covid pandemic "finish line" coming into view for Australia, so it would seem. Especially with more transmissible and vaccine evading variants on the way. I've seen many comments on Twitter, etc. lately from people living overseas who cannot believe how Australia went from one of the best places in the world to be during the pandemic to one of the worst (if not THE worst) in such a short period of time. But, that's what happens when medical experts are ignored and politicians and big business CEO's are allowed to dictate public health policy. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by AusGeoff on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:39pm aquascoot wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 6:34pm:
Maggie De Block is a qualified medical practitioner who was Belgium's health minister for six years. In 2013, she was voted woman of the year by readers of the newspaper La Libre Belgique. In 2013 and 2014 polls, she became the most popular Flemish politician, ahead of the President of Flanders Kris Peeters. Your offensive opinion is only too typical of judgemental, bigoted people who practice body-discrimination simply because someone doesn't comply with their personal opinion. BTW, can I ask you if you have medical qualifications matching those of De Block? Or are you simply another keyboard warrior preaching your bile anonymously? >:( |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Johnnie on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:46pm Carl D wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:19pm:
Which is exactly what Australia (and most of the western world) has done. So... no Covid pandemic "finish line" coming into view for Australia, so it would seem. Especially with more transmissible and vaccine evading variants on the way. I've seen many comments on Twitter, etc. lately from people living overseas who cannot believe how Australia went from one of the best places in the world to be during the pandemic to one of the worst (if not THE worst) in such a short period of time. But, that's what happens when medical experts are ignored and politicians and big business CEO's are allowed to dictate public health policy.[/quote] Why is that! to sanitised, to vaxxed, to herded, the worst in the world! |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by scope on Sep 18th, 2022 at 10:30am AusGeoff wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:39pm:
Didnt you know, horsepoo boy is a farmer and small businessman, he sells horsepoo at his front gate for $5 a bag. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 18th, 2022 at 10:34am AusGeoff wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:17pm:
That's just more spin from "Big Farmer" And you know who ELSE ? "Big Hospital" and "Big Newspaper" |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Carl D on Sep 18th, 2022 at 10:54am scope wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 10:30am:
;D Last I heard it was $2 a bag. Must be inflation? But, he still has an awful lot of horse poo that he needs to sell before he can have some of those mistresses and yachts he keeps telling us the pharmaceutical company (especially Pfizer) CEO's allegedly have. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by aquascoot on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:22pm AusGeoff wrote on Sep 17th, 2022 at 11:39pm:
lol why would you take health advice from someone who is morbidly morbidly obese. would you take mechanical advice from a mechanic who said he had to catch public transport because he couldnt get his car to work ? would you employ a builder whose house fell down ? |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 18th, 2022 at 7:36pm random wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21pm:
This is an ENORMOUS ISSUE - that I've raised, PREVIOUSLY Youtube, Twitter and Facebook have ALL cleaned up their act regarding playing host to evil forces posting dangerously misleading information - to outright LIES - on their sites You'll recall even Donald Trump was not immune from punishment - for repeatedly claiming that all you needed to cure COVID19 was a dose of ivermectin - with absolutely NO scientific or medical basis for his claim After several warnings - he was hit with a LIFE-LONG BAN from Twitter for spreading these LIES on the Twitter platform. But THIS PLACE - with no sense of morality or ethical standards - will gladly play host to all the DANGEROUSLY MISLEADING LIES the likes of "Yadda" can write . |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by John_Taverner on Sep 18th, 2022 at 8:11pm
Let's consider that statement. First of all those who have had vaccine boosters (23% of the population) are more likely to fall in the more senior age groups.
The risk of hospitalisation for different age groups are as follows: 40-49 - 2x the risk (compared to 18-29 year olds.) 50-64 3X the risk 65-74 5X the risk 75-84 8X the risk etc. -and given the fact that the vaccines are less effective against new strains, those two facts together would probably lead to an increase in hospitalisation of the age groups concerned. So in summary older people are more likely to have received boosters, and older people are more likely to be hospitalised with Covid anyway. Very misleading. A causal link is implied where there is none. Very dishonest Yadda. I'm ashamed of you. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by AusGeoff on Sep 19th, 2022 at 12:06am aquascoot wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
Do you truly believe that a person's physical attributes profoundly affect their mental acumen—to the extent that they're incapable of doing their job in a purely administrative position? Seriously? That's a very shallow opinion, as well as a very discriminatory one. You need to shift gear into the 21st century, and understand that body-shaming is now a thing of the 1950s black and white TV era. Your silly conflation of builders and mechanics with medical doctors is nonsensical. BTW, you haven't yet apprised us of your own medical qualifications in order to dismiss those of De Blocks. So....? |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by AusGeoff on Sep 19th, 2022 at 12:45am buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 7:36pm:
Yes. I concur with this. It concerns me too that there are far too many comments from members positing absolutely absurd notions about COVID and its vaccines, with no supporting evidence other than their own misinformed, injudicious personal opinions. And bear in mind that opinions in and of themselves do not in any way equate to evidence. And to cite acknowledged third-party conspiracy theorists in no way supports these members claims. Think of Joseph Mercola, Andrew Wakefield, Tom Cotton, Judy Mikovits, Francesco Billota, Annie Bukacek, David Icke, Alex Jones, and even the failed former US president. Each promulgating bizarre, possibly life-threatening conspiracy theories—minus of course any globally accredited medical evidence. |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by aquascoot on Sep 19th, 2022 at 5:25am AusGeoff wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 12:06am:
incorrect the very BASIS of health is good nutition. big food and big pharma have done a number on you. if you listen to that whole rogan podcast, you will see that he breaks down the american food recommendations from the FDA. they rate coco pops and cheerios as better foods then meat and eggs. look it up!!!! 49 of the 50 people (including medical doctors) who constructed the list are compromised by big fodd and big pharma what do eggs and beef contain? cholesterol. the cholesterol appears in the damaged blood vessels AFTER they are damaged. it is trying to heal them. why paint it as a villain? $$$$$$$ thats why but the number 1 selling drug in the world is pfizers lipitor to lower cholesterol. and the number 2 and 3 are both drugs for type 2 diabetes. we have a new diabetic diagnosed every 5 minutes in australia. in 5 years, it is projected 50 % of the amercian population will be, not just overweight but obese. we have life expectancy falling. we have politicians in NY and Cali banning meat at schools on monday and friday and pushing profitable cheese and maccaroni and sugary muesli bars these health ministers are lying to you as is your doctor as is coles and woolworths as is your hospital where vending machines are availbale throughout selling processed carbs and sugary soft drinks you are being FARMED you are a farm animal making big food profit as you eat your crap diet (and avoid those nasty eggs and beef) and then when you get fat and sick, you are being farmed with the 3 most profitable drugs in the world being pumped down your throat. you are being played and farmed and to celebrate an obese health minister who cant set a good example and be a good role model is , frankly , insane |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 19th, 2022 at 10:22pm aquascoot wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
We need to study him. 5 years is the minimum. images__44__001.jpeg (30 KB | 4
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Marla on Sep 19th, 2022 at 10:33pm Yadda wrote on Sep 8th, 2022 at 10:35pm:
Only to terminal incel dumbasses like yourself |
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 19th, 2022 at 11:42pm Marla wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 10:33pm:
Now now, dear, doctor's orders. images__45__001.jpeg (51 KB | 1
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Title: Re: Vaccine-boosted twice as likely to be hospitalized Post by AusGeoff on Sep 20th, 2022 at 5:19am aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 5:25am:
I took the time to do exactly that, and found this: https://optimisingnutrition.com/tufts-food-compass/ Researchers from Tufts University in Boston, created the 'Food Compass', dubbed to be the 'most comprehensive system' made to assess what we eat. The team spent three years looking at more than 8,000 foods and drinks. They gave each food a score between 1 and 100—the higher the score, the healthier the food. Foods scoring between 100 and 70 are encouraged, those between 69 and 31 should be eaten only in moderation, while anything under 30 should be avoided. |
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