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Title: Australia Day Post by Boris on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:40pm
We are definitely history ignorant. This certainly makes it clear
THE "FIRST" AUSTRALIA DAY: I was taught this at primary school. 26 January, 1949– The Nationality and Citizenship Act is passed. Rather than being identified as subjects of Britain, the Act established Australian citizenship for people who met eligibility requirements. This information was authored by Peter Lee - it should again be taught to all Australians. 'Below is the correct reason Australia Day is celebrated on 26 January. Here are the Facts about Australia Day but don’t expect the media to educate you with these facts as it’s not part of their agenda. 1. Australia Day does not celebrate the arrival of the first fleet or the invasion of anything. 2. Captain Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th January. The landing of Captain Cook in Sydney happened on the 28thApril 1770 – not on 26th January. 3. The first fleet arrived in Botany Bay on 18th January. The 26th was chosen as Australia Day for a very different and important reason. The 26th of January is the day Australians received their independence from British Rule. However, Captain Cook’s landing was included in Australia Day bi-centenary celebrations of 1988 when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cook’s landing should become the focus of the Australia Day commemoration. Sadly, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade and now, a generation later, it’s all but lost. The media as usual is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy. Captain Cook didn’t land on the 26th January, so changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cook’s landing would not have any impact on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day. Australians of today abhor what was done under British governance to the Aborigines, the Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WW11, we decided to try and fix it. We became our own On 26th January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with passports as Australians and NOT British subjects. In 1949 therefore, we all became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948. Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines, were called ‘British Subjects’ and forced to travel on British passports and fight in British wars. This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th January. This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It was the day we were all declared Australians. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:53pm Boris wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:40pm:
It does, actually. Australia Day celebrates the anniversary of Captain Arthur Phillip (of the First Fleet) unfurling the British flag at Sydney Cove and proclaiming British sovereignty over the eastern seaboard of Australia on 26 January 1788. Boris wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:40pm:
Correct. Who said he did? |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by issuevoter on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:59pm
I'm in favour of shifting the date, but it will not appease those who are offended by the 26th. They'll just whinge about something else.
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Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 14th, 2022 at 5:16pm
Here we go again - break out the flags, boys..... I'm celebrating 26th as usual.... the rest of you can find your own way out of your inner darkness...
I think I'll go out in the streets and film some of the activities.... |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 14th, 2022 at 5:36pm
'In early colonial times, the 26th was also called 'First Landing Day' or 'Foundation Day' by some, and would be celebrated by European immigrants (particularly ex-convicts) by holding anniversary dinners. Some would begin their festivities the night of the 25th, with records existing of ex-convicts participating in "drinking and merriment" to celebrate their new home from as early as 1808. All Australia celebrated the 26th by 1935'._ SBS culture.
The 1949 Act of Citizenship chose 26th January to remember the glories of chain-gangs, flogging and stone-cutting. And tourist holidays in Norfolk Island, Port Arthur or fun times with Capt Logan the triangles man of Brisbane. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Brian Ross on Sep 14th, 2022 at 5:40pm
Australia Day should be shifted to the date we, as a nation, came into existence. All states used to celebrate Australia Day on a date when it was convenient, it wasn't until 1988 that it became an official National Holiday. The date we became a nation was 1 January 1901, Federation Day. That is the date we should celebrate becoming a nation. Let NSW celebrate it's establishment on the 26 January 1788, it is nothing to do with the rest of Australia. Matty your attempt to rustle up controversy fails. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 14th, 2022 at 5:49pm
George invited Arthur Phillip to have George's land and Arthur took it from 135 degrees West, the eastern chunk of Northern Territory. So 1/2 Oz belongs to Sydney as does the South Pacific Ocean and islands eastward. Chinese Solomon Islands seems to be outside, which was sloppy piracy by James Cook. If China takes Xi's Sydney as well then it's all back together.
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Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Xavier on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:06pm
The largest ethnic group in Sydney is Chinese.
To mark the most honorable occassion of conquering Sydney from the Whities. The Chinese will celebrate the renaming of Sydney to 'South Shang-hai' on Jan 26th. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:53pm:
No incorrect .... Cook did that on Possession Island in 1770. Phillip proclaimed the colony. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:10pm Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
I said correct, Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th January. Boris said "Captain Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th January." I'm agreeing with him. He's correct. Australia Day has nothing to do with Cook, and nobody has ever said it did. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
My comment was in regard to what you said that I highlighted. Capt. Cook took possession proclaiming British sovereignty over the Eastern seaboard of the continent on Possession Island in 1770. ::) |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Xavier on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:28pm
The Mafia-Media supports the Aborigine agenda to call it INVASION DAY.
You can rely on the Mafia-Media that's in bed with the American Democrats - to undermine any 'British' empowerment here. Triple JJJ Media lefties will be playing black songs about evil white people. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:44pm Boris wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:40pm:
On January 20th, 1788, the last of the eleven ships of the First Fleet arrived at Botany Bay. Captain Arthur Phillip's search for a more suitable site led him to Port Jackson. The rest of the fleet sailed into Sydney Harbour on 26 January. https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/magazine/onthisday/20-january-1788#:~:text=20%20Jan%201788%20%2D%20First%20Fleet,Botany%20Bay%20%7C%20NSW%20State%20Archives * |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Frank on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:53pm Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 5:40pm:
Would that make Aborigines happy, active and productive? Federation Day is a good historical starting point but I suspect Trade unions would not be happy about foregoing a paid public holiday that would fall o an existing one. 26 January is a new beginning by any reckoning. I am not in favour of the Bbwianesque, Pol Potesque revision of history and Year Zeros. Leave it as it is. THAT is the sign of a confident country. Only 'look at me' adolescent sans-culottes demand history to start with them. And adolescent sans-culottes come along in EVERY generation. We could have a new Year Zero every couple of decades. That's crap. Learn about history, don't try to change it by the standards of the 'now' - because nothing dates like the latest hat, as the poet sagely said. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 14th, 2022 at 7:25pm Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
Maybe he didn't and just saying 'it's mine' is ridiculous anyway. Convicts got 14 years for that sort of stuff. 'Seeking a high vantage point, Cook along with three others including Joseph Banks, climbed a steep hill on a nearby island. From the top the viewed a navigable "a passage into the Indian Seas". He signalled the good news down to the men on the ship, who cheered loudly.' 'The Admiralty's instructions did not authorized Cook to annex New Holland and therefore it is unlikely that any possession ceremony occurred that August. Importantly, Joseph Banks, who was standing beside Cook, does not mention any such episode or announcement in his journal.' 22 Aug 1770. 'Banks wrote :'We soon came abreast, from whence we concluded we might have a much better view than from our mast head, so the anchor was dropd and we prepared ourselves to go ashore to examine whether the place we stood into was a bay or a passage; for as we sailed right before the trade wind we might find difficulty in getting out should it prove to be the former. . The hill we were upon was by much the most barren we had been upon; it however gave us the satisfaction of seeing a straight, at least as far as we could see, without any obstruction. In the Even a strong tide made us almost certain'. So George III was telling fibs when he said he owned it. But he was nuts so it's all OK. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by John Smith on Sep 14th, 2022 at 7:30pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:59pm:
why would changing the date stop them complaining about other issues they might have? If you were complaining about a faulty light switch and a leaking roof, does my fixing the light switch mean you stop complaining about the leaky roof? ::) |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 14th, 2022 at 7:52pm
https://www.australiaday.org.au/
'This is the Story of Australia - the story of an extraordinary nation. The Story begins 60,000 years ago'. The Australia Day Committee is a bit illogical. Aboriginal people weren't preparing to be in Australia and were forced to belong by the reality of 1788. The British had no connection with the previous 60,000 years. A person's life can't begin in the years before they are born. I'd like to see a Welcome to country ceremony where the person says "Terribly sorry and that, but sorry, you can't come here. Go away" and all the crowd turn around and leave. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 14th, 2022 at 8:42pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:59pm:
So am I The TRUEST date to celebrate Australia Day is blatantly OBVIOUS Australia became a nation on 1 January 1901 when 6 British colonies - New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania—united to form the Commonwealth of Australia. This process is known as Federation. The First Commonwealth Parliament was opened by the Duke of York, in the Exhibition Building, Melbourne, on 9 May, 1901 May 9th . |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 14th, 2022 at 8:47pm
Could work. An Australian celebration to honour the work of politicians.
Maybe games of political footballs. Re-enactments of party room challenges to a dud PM with stabs in the back. Should go OK |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 15th, 2022 at 12:17am chimera wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
Very nice... ye-ush, very nice... thing is - that was 234 years ago and this is a different era - they are no longer the top dog on the land, and are a minority. Time to get with it or migrate to somewhere else. Thing is - given the modern nation in which we live and the minority status of your Welcome Stranger - more likely he'd be shown the door.... |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 15th, 2022 at 12:24am buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:44pm:
Well - there you have it - the moment a reasonable anchorage was found was the time to put down roots..... 26th January it is then.... Not important - it's the day of declaration that counts..... now the majority can carry on, right? We should have Welcome ceremonies for those Indigenous who have come in to the fold.... the rest can go on throwing spears at one another and shooting arrows into one another .... all peaceful and lovey-dovey and sharing around the campfire along the trade routes between the agriculture and the aquaculture like it was pre-1788, right? 8-) 8-) 8-) |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 15th, 2022 at 1:17am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 12:17am:
Yup, which makes the welcome into something illogical. It's 'welcome us or else, mate'. And if Australia began 60,000 years ago, then we welcome ourselves here which has to be loony. And Italians who settle here had history back then so Italy is part of the Australian nation. Nuts. And another thing..people left Africa 70,000 years ago and Australia has the oldest culture in the world. But the Africans logically are from the older, original population in Africa. The San Bushmen are an example of continuous African culture, older than Aboriginals. The authorities refuse to discuss the logic. And it's absolutely impossible to know what a culture may have been at 5000, 10000 or 30000 years ago. The 250 Aboriginal languages logically can't be the 1 language of 65000 years ago when the first people arrived in Australia. Unless they each spoke 250 languages. Yes, make sense. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:22am
How do you welcome yourself here when you were born here - always was Grappler country, always will be.... same as several generations before ... back to the 1850's....
You can stick your welcome to country....it's my country.... Originally there were over 1000 languages and tribal dialects.... maximum herd size maybe 200-300 and even then not all living in the same place.... Pascoe fairy stories regardless..... imagine the sanitation problems of 300 gathered around the fishing hole ......... :-? Do any of those fabled histories even cover such things? The First Fleet had the locals outnumbered from the start.... ;D ;D ;D Australian Wars of Resistance.... what a load of bullshit..... |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:26am
Technically, no-one has won the battle to own the place. It's a cease-fire and the two try to muck along together. The welcome is illogical but serves a purpose of being civil. Although Yanks had War that was Civil..
(and numerous Aboriginal people were shot for the very reason that they were resisting by force). |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:32am chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:26am:
Them was depredations, not resistance..... I posted a list of massacres and the vast majority show they were retaliatory... here is a piccie of Sydney Town - you can clearly see the cheers have all been run off and dispossessed (yardle, yardle):- |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:42am
'Look Bill there are depredators coming'.
'OK load up'. 'I've been depredated'. 'By whom? A perp?' 'Yes the perp depredated me'. Pow pow. 'Now he's undepredating'. 'Excellent undepredatisation'. 'Thanks mate'. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 15th, 2022 at 11:03pm chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:42am:
Keep working on it................... NEXT..... |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by Dnarever on Sep 15th, 2022 at 11:43pm
I Think we should celebrate it but Do not care much which day is chosen.
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Title: Re: Australia Day Post by AusGeoff on Sep 16th, 2022 at 1:46am 1st of January makes sense, but then all the unions will be screaming that they've lost a public holiday, being as it's already a holiday for New Year's Day. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 2:15am
There is no argument - January 26th is Australia Day..... the commemoration of the time this continent stopped being a totally disintegrated and non-contiguous arena for wandering groups of stone aged people and became a nation ...
There was NO Australia before the declaration that it was...... Thank you all for coming.... you may love it or leave it - it is what it is...... and nothing you demand or do will change that ...... |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by mothra on Sep 16th, 2022 at 5:51am
At last exhausted with complaining about the Voice, the crazy old man singers have diverted back to Invasion Day.
Just for a change of pace. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:15am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 2:15am:
The earliest recorded use of the word Australia in English was in 1625, a variation of the Spanish name "Austrialia del Espiritu Santo" by navigator Pedro Fernandes de Queirós in 1606 for the largest island of Vanuatu. The name Australia was specifically applied to the continent for the first time in 1794. On behalf of the United States of America, I offer my best wishes in celebration of your National Day on July 30. Vanuatu National Day - United States Department of State There is no argument, it's Australia Vanuatu day and nothing you demand or do will change that. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by random on Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:19am Jasin wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 6:28pm:
So, there was an invasion on that day. A whole fleet of white people invaded the continent on that day. Seems reasonable to call it what it is. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:24pm random wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:19am:
Wrong picture for Civilisation Day, 1788... that one was long after and in response to the Blecks murdering a couple of shepherds... probably for long mutton or something... Try to stick with it, boy......... we know you struggle, but you can do it... |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by random on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:27pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
Civilisation? |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:29pm
What would you do when a host of natives went at you with spears and such - besides - them ain't Abos...
Try to keep up .... So many farkwits, so little time. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:30pm
No imperial power has ever treated pre-civilisation peoples well.
The closest the British got to it was NZ and then only after the settlers there had read and heard of the horror story NSW had become. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:32pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
Well - it's all over now... I guess the Keffir will just have to get on in the modern world now... with all the modern benefits flowing freely their way in return for not ambushing people etc... though they still try... seems they remain more intent on killing one another though ..... put 'em in their own homeland and let 'em go at it.... 26th January it is then .... no reason to change it .... Just for interest:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Wars |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:34pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
Nice. Black skin proves guilt so it's not invading or murdering, just depredating the skin. Special military operations against the uncivilised by superior justice. Take a sheep which is white and blacks die. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:36pm chimera wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:34pm:
List of massacres posted before - obviously you chose not to read it. A bit like any discussion here - facts are never to get in the way of a good slagging of the White society that has brought so much. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:40pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Yes, it wasn't all sweetness and light (although it erupted decades after the treaty's signing). Caused mainly by mistranslations of what sovereignty meant. The Maori could no longer practise cannibalism, a chief's word was not final, and land could be sold, then held by the purchaser, to the exclusion of everyone else. Concepts that were untranslatable into Maori in the 19th century. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:44pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 8:32am:
Retaliatory? Not British justice then? Sort of Russian vengeance against the nazis thinking they lived in a land? |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 1:02pm chimera wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:44pm:
Well - when you attack people and murder some, you have to expect retaliation. Clearly the intent wasn't genocide or it would have finished the job. You can't change history and living in the past won't change anything... you need to get into the present and start working on it. In case you missed it, this country is going to the dogs in many ways and it's way past time to put a stop to many of the ideologies doing the rounds and start to wake up again. 3% of the community cannot control the rest... sorry about that... and such things must be resolved by careful thought and planning not by emotional outpourings which are the usual fare. |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 16th, 2022 at 1:09pm
The Police and Retaliation Minister has announced 48 armoured police paddy wagons. Fitted with short range missiles and flame throwers they will protect peaceful citizens by removing suburbs from harm's way. 'We are a peaceful Department' the Minister confirmed from his busy electronic HQ co-ordinating the Public Relations.
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Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 1:18pm chimera wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 1:09pm:
I've suggested they have their own homeland where they can do things their way to their heart's content - but since they are now only 3.3% of the population they cannot have more than 3.3% of the land... OK? Better to give each family a house block and say - "Go for it - there is no more!"... that's a far better start than any young couple trying to get a leg in the door of owning a home.... Just another real issue that has sent this country to the dogs... and needs to be fixed NOW..... The Great Wall of Cape York - Escape From Cooktown...... the equivalent of an electrified Hadrian's Wall across it, patrol boats and aircraft, ship 'em all in and let 'em go at it... throw in a few Musso dissidents and troublemakers and see how they go ..... :o ;D ;D ;D Give 'em what they want, NOW!! |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by chimera on Sep 16th, 2022 at 1:43pm
Suits me. A town for the Angles, larger one for the Saxons who bred like rabbits. Vikings in the Snowy Mountains with barbed wire retaliation. Irish in Tasmania of course. Japs at Cowra. Chinese in parliament. Football thugs in Norfolk Island on bread and water. Yep
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Title: Re: Australia Day Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Sep 16th, 2022 at 4:42pm Boris wrote on Sep 14th, 2022 at 4:40pm:
The right sure love their fascism |
Title: Re: Australia Day Post by The Grappler on Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:09pm
26th January will do... break out the flags, people...
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