I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family.

I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well.

At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children.

I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture.

As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government.

I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves.

Lisa

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/10/household-names-168-australian-companies-have-paid-no-tax-since-2013

One third of Oz companies paid no tax. The reason is that the directors' daughters are semi-starved, scrubbing McDonalds' kitchens out 24/7 to pay for their mother's anorexia pills. They pray on their knees for some small gifts from the bloated royal landlords who make them shiver in tenement slums. But no, the royalty pass by on the opposite side of the railway tracks carrying bags of seized jewels and pauper's wedding rings.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa

When the YANKS were determining how their Republic was going to function - and its checks & balances ... they did it on the basis of observation
of how all the other supposed Republics on the planet in a vast majority had done one thing .....

FAILED.

Does that give you some indication as to why we shouldn't fix what isn't broken.

Many of the migrants who have come to this country have come here from "failed republics".

chimera wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 5:16pm:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/10/household-names-168-australian-companies-have-paid-no-tax-since-2013 One third of Oz companies paid no tax. The reason is that the directors' daughters are semi-starved, scrubbing McDonalds' kitchens out 24/7 to pay for their mother's anorexia pills. They pray on their knees for some small gifts from the bloated royal landlords who make them shiver in tenement slums. But no, the royalty pass by on the opposite side of the railway tracks carrying bags of seized jewels and pauper's wedding rings.

The whole 1/3 weren't Oz companies - they were in the main foreign multi nationals operating in Australia.

Gnads wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 6:22pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa When the YANKS were determining how their Republic was going to function - and its checks & balances ... they did it on the basis of observation of how all the other supposed Republics on the planet in a vast majority had done one thing ..... FAILED. Does that give you some indication as to why we shouldn't fix what isn't broken. Many of the migrants who have come to this country have come here from "failed republics".

And sadly they bring those failings with them... and not just the republic models.... when you bring in people who are running from the country of their birth, they are bringing in all the evils of that country.... along with some of the good bits....

Take a look around you..... things could be worse.... sure enough  - they were worse...

We need, as a nation, to be reviewing what our immigration strategy is..... and surely it cannot be to continue bringing in masses from the failed and failing third world...... since to do so means we will fall into the same category after being over-run by people whose only experience of government is failure...

THAT is why we need to forbid people not born here from holding high political and public service etc office.... including the Poms etc ... they bring with them not 'new ideas' but old ones already burnt to the ground, or the converse - they persist with the belief that their way - perhaps the opposite of what was failed 'back home' - is the way forward...

Add to that they know nothing about this country and its history and ethos.... how can they possibly judge what is best for it?

Political office is far too lucrative.... this needs to be fixed so that we only get genuine people in it..... not time-servers looking after themselves and looking forward to a fat future out of it..... a good start is if you are in office, you hold that one job only and nothing else.... we want people who work for this country - not for themselves and with a second job in politics.

Feed monkeys more peanuts and you get more monkey sh1t ................

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa

Queen Elizabeth II personified the traits of diligence, humility, and devotion to country. Her long reign encapsulated stability, progress, and significant gains for her subjects. Hers was a generation that espoused self-reliance, the work ethic, and community service. She saw her nation transformed into a haven for immigrants of all races and creeds seeking a better life. It is only right then that she be despised and vilified in death.

At least that is according to those who count themselves among the so-called anti-racists. “I heard the chief monarch of a thieving raping genocidal empire is finally dying,” tweeted Nigerian-born Carnegie Mellon University professor Uju Anya last week when reports emerged of the queen’s rapidly declining health. “May her pain be excruciating,” she wrote. Anya, incidentally, also identifies as a feminist and repeatedly calls out “toxic masculinity”.

Her sentiments towards the queen were, admittedly, a tad controversial but there can be no doubt she and her ilk merely want peace and harmony for all. Also, it is not as if she tweeted something hateful and offensive such as “Women have vaginas” or “All lives matter, not just black lives”.

But inexplicably, the university took umbrage at Anya’s tweet. “We do not condone the offensive and objectionable messages posted by Uju Anya today on her personal social media account,” it said in a statement. “Free expression is core to the mission of higher education, however, the views she shared absolutely do not represent the values of the institution, nor the standards of discourse we seek to foster.”

Granted, Anya faces no sanction or reprimand from her employer. But as MSNBC political columnist Zeeshan Aleem noted, the university’s statement “was a condemnation and implicitly a signal to other academics at the university that they should watch their mouth on certain matters.” What is more, he wrote, “it underscores how vulnerable public intellectuals are to controversy-driven social media pile-ons”.

I agree entirely. To reiterate, all Anya did was publicly and gleefully exhort that an ailing 96-year-old woman suffer a horrific death. For the university to disassociate itself with her remarks is yet another example of society trying to silence strong black women. As she lamented to women’s magazine The Cut, “hate is coming into my email inbox”. To add to her distress, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, quoting Anya’s post, tweeted: “This is someone supposedly working to make the world better? I don’t think so. Wow.” So what was Anya’s take on his remarks? “Jeff Bezos incited violence against me,” she claimed.

In other words, Anya is the victim here. Welcome to the narcissistic world of race politics. It is a place where activists can say and do things that would normally result in termination of employment but for their minority status. Call them out for their actions and you will be met with screeching accusations of racist victimising.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/the-brave-battle-against-the-coloniser-from-academia/news-story/5d8002cd19e6e0dbc7d3e530566c726c


The monarch dies - millions of people only see the opportunity for a bit of 'look at moi'. Social media is the transmitter of psychic diseases.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. Lisa

Well, I was listening till then. 

random wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 6:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. Lisa Well, I was listening till then.

That's fine. I was merely reminding (certain) people of my personal religious and political affiliations/convictions.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 6:53pm:

random wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 6:44pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. Lisa Well, I was listening till then.  That's fine. I was merely reminding (certain) people of my personal religious and political affiliations/convictions.

And I was reminding you that if you want to get your message across, divulging that information does not help, nor is it necessary.

Some of us have trouble conflating belief systems with facts.  Maybe you do too.

random wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 6:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. Lisa Well, I was listening till then.

No good?

Diversity is not our strength?

Only fully conformist diversity is allowed?

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa Queen Elizabeth II personified the traits of diligence, humility, and devotion to country. Her long reign encapsulated stability, progress, and significant gains for her subjects. Hers was a generation that espoused self-reliance, the work ethic, and community service. She saw her nation transformed into a haven for immigrants of all races and creeds seeking a better life. It is only right then that she be despised and vilified in death. At least that is according to those who count themselves among the so-called anti-racists. “I heard the chief monarch of a thieving raping genocidal empire is finally dying,” tweeted Nigerian-born Carnegie Mellon University professor Uju Anya last week when reports emerged of the queen’s rapidly declining health. “May her pain be excruciating,” she wrote. Anya, incidentally, also identifies as a feminist and repeatedly calls out “toxic masculinity”. Her sentiments towards the queen were, admittedly, a tad controversial but there can be no doubt she and her ilk merely want peace and harmony for all. Also, it is not as if she tweeted something hateful and offensive such as “Women have vaginas” or “All lives matter, not just black lives”. But inexplicably, the university took umbrage at Anya’s tweet. “We do not condone the offensive and objectionable messages posted by Uju Anya today on her personal social media account,” it said in a statement. “Free expression is core to the mission of higher education, however, the views she shared absolutely do not represent the values of the institution, nor the standards of discourse we seek to foster.” Granted, Anya faces no sanction or reprimand from her employer. But as MSNBC political columnist Zeeshan Aleem noted, the university’s statement “was a condemnation and implicitly a signal to other academics at the university that they should watch their mouth on certain matters.” What is more, he wrote, “it underscores how vulnerable public intellectuals are to controversy-driven social media pile-ons”. I agree entirely. To reiterate, all Anya did was publicly and gleefully exhort that an ailing 96-year-old woman suffer a horrific death. For the university to disassociate itself with her remarks is yet another example of society trying to silence strong black women. As she lamented to women’s magazine The Cut, “hate is coming into my email inbox”. To add to her distress, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, quoting Anya’s post, tweeted: “This is someone supposedly working to make the world better? I don’t think so. Wow.” So what was Anya’s take on his remarks? “Jeff Bezos incited violence against me,” she claimed. In other words, Anya is the victim here. Welcome to the narcissistic world of race politics. It is a place where activists can say and do things that would normally result in termination of employment but for their minority status. Call them out for their actions and you will be met with screeching accusations of racist victimising. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/the-brave-battle-against-the-coloniser-from-academia/news-story/5d8002cd19e6e0dbc7d3e530566c726c The monarch dies - millions of people only see the opportunity for a bit of 'look at moi'. Social media is the transmitter of psychic diseases.

I'm not sure if you wrote that article as the link you've provided is inaccessible to me.

I find the comments made by Anya to be absolutely vile.

random wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 6:53pm: random wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 6:44pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. Lisa Well, I was listening till then.  That's fine. I was merely reminding (certain) people of my personal religious and political affiliations/convictions. And I was reminding you that if you want to get your message across, divulging that information does not help, nor is it necessary. Some of us have trouble conflating belief systems with facts.  Maybe you do too.

You've not understood my motivation for initiating this topic. I had a number of target audiences in mind. The main target audiences? Christians and Conservatives.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free

'The total value of the crown estate is £15.6bn “generating profit for the Treasury for the benefit of the nation’s finances”, the estate’s net income to be surrendered to the government.
The Queen voluntarily paid tax on her private income from land owned by the Duchy of Lancaster and property she personally owned.
The monarch also has assets in Scotland and the profits generated by these assets are transferred to the Scottish government for public spending.
The duchy’s estate paid Charles an income and he voluntarily paid the top rate of income tax – 45% – on the duchy’s earnings.'

chimera wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free 'The total value of the crown estate is £15.6bn “generating profit for the Treasury for the benefit of the nation’s finances”, the estate’s net income to be surrendered to the government. The Queen voluntarily paid tax on her private income from land owned by the Duchy of Lancaster and property she personally owned. The monarch also has assets in Scotland and the profits generated by these assets are transferred to the Scottish government for public spending. The duchy’s estate paid Charles an income and he voluntarily paid the top rate of income tax – 45% – on the duchy’s earnings.'

Now provide the link.

While Chimera is struggling to find that link ....the rest of us can read this :

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna47104

There are lots of reasons to end the British monarchy. King Charles III is the best.
Charles has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society.

The same statement from Buckingham Palace announcing the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday declared that her son Charles had succeeded her as king. And just like that, this unelected man became the head of state for millions around the world. The former Prince of Wales, whose life has been riddled with controversy, is now the strongest argument for ending the archaic institution of the monarchy.

He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England – another inherited role that should be discontinued.

Charles, too, has benefited from this self-interested and abusive conduct, and some of the most odious royal traditions continue under him. For starters, in a country suffering from worsening inflation, a collapsing health service and rising poverty, King Charles III and his family will still enjoy an annual payment from the British government known as the “Sovereign Grant.”

The grant cost British taxpayers £86.3 million ($100.12 million) in 2021 and was further increased by £27.3 million ($31.67 million) over the next two years to help cover a 17% rise in spending by the royals.

The grant has been used for a variety of items, from the upkeep of many palaces to £32,000 (more than $37,000) for a chartered flight for Charles to attend a James Bond movie premiere (despite his years of pro-environment advocacy).

Despite this guaranteed income from taxpayers, Charles has reportedly invested millions in offshore tax havens. According to a set of leaked documents known as the Paradise Papers, The Guardian reported that Charles had invested private money in a Bermuda-based sustainable forestry firm. Given his environmental stances, the revelation sparked allegations of a conflict of interest. Charles’ investment team said, however, that he did not have “any direct involvement in the investment decisions.”

In June, The Sunday Times reported that Charles had previously accepted €1 million ($1.16 million) in cash for his foundation in a suitcase, part of €3 million ($3.48 million) in total, from a former Qatari prime minister. The charity was later found to have accepted millions from Osama Bin Laden’s family as well.

Charles also has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. Charles famously engaged in an extramarital affair with Camilla Parker Bowles while being married to “People’s Princess” Diana. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England — another inherited role that should be discontinued.

Of course, the arrogance of Charles presuming to be a religious figure was passed down for generations within the British monarchy. The Church of England was first established because in 1534 King Henry VIII, frustrated by Catholicism’s prohibition on divorce, established a new branch of Christianity, made himself the head and promptly permitted divorce. Without Henry’s entitled precedent, Charles would not have been able to divorce Diana and still have a claim to the crown.

When you add in the treatment of Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and the behavior of Charles’ brother Andrew, the standing of the British royal family is only further degraded. To expect us to instantly refer to Charles as “His Majesty,” as if he is automatically a man of dignity, is laughable. The monarchy should have ended years ago. With Charles at the helm, it most certainly should end now.

https://www.google.com.au/

Hi Lisa, Google is a search engine.
search
Learn to pronounce
verb
try to find something by looking or otherwise seeking carefully and thoroughly.
"I searched among the rocks, but there was nothing"



Same as Republican Conservative philanderer taxes.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 7:27pm:

chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 7:23pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free 'The total value of the crown estate is £15.6bn “generating profit for the Treasury for the benefit of the nation’s finances”, the estate’s net income to be surrendered to the government. The Queen voluntarily paid tax on her private income from land owned by the Duchy of Lancaster and property she personally owned. The monarch also has assets in Scotland and the profits generated by these assets are transferred to the Scottish government for public spending. The duchy’s estate paid Charles an income and he voluntarily paid the top rate of income tax – 45% – on the duchy’s earnings.' Now provide the link.

Cheeses, Lisa! Are they going to sell any of it to anyone?

The royal family own it in the sense that the state own it and the sovereign personifies the state. It's not like they could ever sell Buck House and move the Gold Coast on the proceeds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0NspQucpdc

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

While Chimera is struggling to find that link ....the rest of us can read this : https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna47104 There are lots of reasons to end the British monarchy. King Charles III is the best. Charles has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. The same statement from Buckingham Palace announcing the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday declared that her son Charles had succeeded her as king. And just like that, this unelected man became the head of state for millions around the world. The former Prince of Wales, whose life has been riddled with controversy, is now the strongest argument for ending the archaic institution of the monarchy. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England – another inherited role that should be discontinued. Charles, too, has benefited from this self-interested and abusive conduct, and some of the most odious royal traditions continue under him. For starters, in a country suffering from worsening inflation, a collapsing health service and rising poverty, King Charles III and his family will still enjoy an annual payment from the British government known as the “Sovereign Grant.” The grant cost British taxpayers £86.3 million ($100.12 million) in 2021 and was further increased by £27.3 million ($31.67 million) over the next two years to help cover a 17% rise in spending by the royals. The grant has been used for a variety of items, from the upkeep of many palaces to £32,000 (more than $37,000) for a chartered flight for Charles to attend a James Bond movie premiere (despite his years of pro-environment advocacy). Despite this guaranteed income from taxpayers, Charles has reportedly invested millions in offshore tax havens. According to a set of leaked documents known as the Paradise Papers, The Guardian reported that Charles had invested private money in a Bermuda-based sustainable forestry firm. Given his environmental stances, the revelation sparked allegations of a conflict of interest. Charles’ investment team said, however, that he did not have “any direct involvement in the investment decisions.” In June, The Sunday Times reported that Charles had previously accepted €1 million ($1.16 million) in cash for his foundation in a suitcase, part of €3 million ($3.48 million) in total, from a former Qatari prime minister. The charity was later found to have accepted millions from Osama Bin Laden’s family as well. Charles also has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. Charles famously engaged in an extramarital affair with Camilla Parker Bowles while being married to “People’s Princess” Diana. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England — another inherited role that should be discontinued. Of course, the arrogance of Charles presuming to be a religious figure was passed down for generations within the British monarchy. The Church of England was first established because in 1534 King Henry VIII, frustrated by Catholicism’s prohibition on divorce, established a new branch of Christianity, made himself the head and promptly permitted divorce. Without Henry’s entitled precedent, Charles would not have been able to divorce Diana and still have a claim to the crown. When you add in the treatment of Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and the behavior of Charles’ brother Andrew, the standing of the British royal family is only further degraded. To expect us to instantly refer to Charles as “His Majesty,” as if he is automatically a man of dignity, is laughable. The monarchy should have ended years ago. With Charles at the helm, it most certainly should end now.

Ah...  Ahmed Twaij. One always wants to know what Ahmed Twaij's take is on things.

Social media - where Ahmed Twaij is prominent - is the medium of transmission of psychic epidemics.  Practice psychic hygiene.

Larry aka "Lisa Jones" is looking for more catfishing victims and it looks like she might have some fresh meat ...

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa

You wouldn't appreciate all that being said at your mother's funeral, Lisa.



https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/vile-the-university-of-sydney-student-newspaper-honi-soit-publishes-edited-image-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-in-a-morgue/news-story/a01da84eb97ddceda741eb258ac891e8?amp

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 10:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa You wouldn't appreciate all that being said at your mother's funeral, Lisa. https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/vile-the-university-of-sydney-student-newspaper-honi-soit-publishes-edited-image-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-in-a-morgue/news-story/a01da84eb97ddceda741eb258ac891e8?amp

I'm terribly upset and disgusted after reading that.

In fact for the 1st time in my life I'm embarrassed to say I'm a graduate of Sydney University.

My sisters and brothers and cousins are also graduates of this prestigious University. My older children too. The unbelievable fees we've all paid ... and the support we've given as graduates and as parents of graduates come to mind.

I do thank you for alerting me to this. There's not much I can do now except write a scathing letter in response to that article. It's totally gruesome and unacceptable. And it does nothing positive for their brand. If anything it diminishes their brand image and reputation.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/engage/alumni.html

Hi Lisa,
young people do silly things due to their immaturity.
I'd forget it as I'm sure one day they will be
very embarrassed by what they've done.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 12:21am:

Frank wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 10:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm: I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa You wouldn't appreciate all that being said at your mother's funeral, Lisa. https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/vile-the-university-of-sydney-student-newspaper-honi-soit-publishes-edited-image-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-in-a-morgue/news-story/a01da84eb97ddceda741eb258ac891e8?amp I'm terribly upset and disgusted after reading that. In fact for the 1st time in my life I'm embarrassed to say I'm a graduate of Sydney University. My sisters and brothers and cousins are also graduates of this prestigious University. My older children too. The unbelievable fees we've all paid ... and the support we've given as graduates and as parents of graduates come to mind. I do thank you for alerting me to this. There's not much I can do now except write a scathing letter in response to that article. It's totally gruesome and unacceptable. And it does nothing positive for their brand. If anything it diminishes their brand image and reputation. https://www.sydney.edu.au/engage/alumni.html

No one mentions personal details anywhere online like you do Larry which is why most of us don't believe you are who you say you are ...

If the United States had ultimately been dominated by the British way back
when, and if the country was now a monarchy overseen by a king or queen,
my guess is that the federal republic wouldn't be suffering the political turmoil
it's found itself in over the past five or 6 years under a president. 

The Westminster system of government would've served it well—as it has in
the realms of Canada, Australia and New Zealand for example.

The autocratic style of the arrogant buffoon Trump, and the increasingly faltering,
unresolved style of the senescent Biden would've been precluded had a monarchy
been the order of the day.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 12:21am:

I'm terribly upset and disgusted after reading that.

Sep 13 Lisa Jones.
3. As you may have guessed I'm pretty upset and angry about that lecherous immoral selfish passive aggressive and ugly insufferable POS and his hag of a whore .

chimera wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 6:39am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:21am: I'm terribly upset and disgusted after reading that. Sep 13 Lisa Jones. 3. As you may have guessed I'm pretty upset and angry about that lecherous immoral selfish passive aggressive and ugly insufferable POS and his hag of a whore .

No disrespect intended, of course.

chimera wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 6:39am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:21am: I'm terribly upset and disgusted after reading that. Sep 13 Lisa Jones. 3. As you may have guessed I'm pretty upset and angry about that lecherous immoral selfish passive aggressive and ugly insufferable POS and his hag of a whore .

That's right. What's your point?

Are you sitting there seriously accusing me of showing disrespect for the Queen herself all because I accurately described her adulterous son and his mistress?

Pffft! Try harder!

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 1:06am:

If the United States had ultimately been dominated by the British way back when, and if the country was now a monarchy

The US link with the French revolution is arguable. But they promoted the British Representation of the People Act 1832 which broadened the franchise property to include small landowners, tenant farmers, and shopkeepers. With a royal America and France, probably the UK would have kept aristocrats in power.  It used the army to crush the General Strike of 1926.  A united British American kingdom would be a sight to behold with slaves, apartheit and probably colonial Europe and Russia.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 12:49am:

Hi Lisa, young people do silly things due to their immaturity. I'd forget it as I'm sure one day they will be very embarrassed by what they've done.

Good point.

Even so...I still intend to write to a number of Sydney Uni staff members. The published article was beyond the pale.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 6:58am:

Are you sitting there seriously accusing me of showing disrespect for the Queen herself all because I accurately described her adulterous son and his mistress? Pffft! Try harder!

Dearest Lisa darling,
Who is the Queen now?

chimera wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 7:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:58am: Are you sitting there seriously accusing me of showing disrespect for the Queen herself all because I accurately described her adulterous son and his mistress? Pffft! Try harder! Dearest Lisa darling, Who is the Queen now?

You're still all over the place. Perhaps a strong cup of coffee might help you.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

While Chimera is struggling to find that link ....the rest of us can read this : https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna47104 There are lots of reasons to end the British monarchy. King Charles III is the best. Charles has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. The same statement from Buckingham Palace announcing the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday declared that her son Charles had succeeded her as king. And just like that, this unelected man became the head of state for millions around the world. The former Prince of Wales, whose life has been riddled with controversy, is now the strongest argument for ending the archaic institution of the monarchy. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England – another inherited role that should be discontinued. Charles, too, has benefited from this self-interested and abusive conduct, and some of the most odious royal traditions continue under him. For starters, in a country suffering from worsening inflation, a collapsing health service and rising poverty, King Charles III and his family will still enjoy an annual payment from the British government known as the “Sovereign Grant.” The grant cost British taxpayers £86.3 million ($100.12 million) in 2021 and was further increased by £27.3 million ($31.67 million) over the next two years to help cover a 17% rise in spending by the royals. The grant has been used for a variety of items, from the upkeep of many palaces to £32,000 (more than $37,000) for a chartered flight for Charles to attend a James Bond movie premiere (despite his years of pro-environment advocacy). Despite this guaranteed income from taxpayers, Charles has reportedly invested millions in offshore tax havens. According to a set of leaked documents known as the Paradise Papers, The Guardian reported that Charles had invested private money in a Bermuda-based sustainable forestry firm. Given his environmental stances, the revelation sparked allegations of a conflict of interest. Charles’ investment team said, however, that he did not have “any direct involvement in the investment decisions.” In June, The Sunday Times reported that Charles had previously accepted €1 million ($1.16 million) in cash for his foundation in a suitcase, part of €3 million ($3.48 million) in total, from a former Qatari prime minister. The charity was later found to have accepted millions from Osama Bin Laden’s family as well. Charles also has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. Charles famously engaged in an extramarital affair with Camilla Parker Bowles while being married to “People’s Princess” Diana. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England — another inherited role that should be discontinued. Of course, the arrogance of Charles presuming to be a religious figure was passed down for generations within the British monarchy. The Church of England was first established because in 1534 King Henry VIII, frustrated by Catholicism’s prohibition on divorce, established a new branch of Christianity, made himself the head and promptly permitted divorce. Without Henry’s entitled precedent, Charles would not have been able to divorce Diana and still have a claim to the crown. When you add in the treatment of Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and the behavior of Charles’ brother Andrew, the standing of the British royal family is only further degraded. To expect us to instantly refer to Charles as “His Majesty,” as if he is automatically a man of dignity, is laughable. The monarchy should have ended years ago. With Charles at the helm, it most certainly should end now.

Nah you don't get it. Christian & Conservative?

My eye.

You stuffed that whole post by including the bit - "add in the treatment of Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex".

What treatment was that?

She's nothing but a narcissistic trouble maker.

Your figures of what the Royals cost the UK isn't tempered by what the Royals & the Royal Estates return to the UK Govt.

It's millions compared to billions.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1437145/how-much-money-does-the-royal-family-bring-in-to-uk-evg


Quote:

The House of Windsor is estimated by Forbes to contribute £19 billion ($28 billion) to Britain's economy pre-pandemic

https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/how-much-money-royal-family-20757359

Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians.

Prince Phillip was Greek.


Quote:

The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom).

Lisa come in Lisa.
Who is the Queen?

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 7:09am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15th, 2022 at 7:37pm: While Chimera is struggling to find that link ....the rest of us can read this : https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna47104 There are lots of reasons to end the British monarchy. King Charles III is the best. Charles has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. The same statement from Buckingham Palace announcing the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday declared that her son Charles had succeeded her as king. And just like that, this unelected man became the head of state for millions around the world. The former Prince of Wales, whose life has been riddled with controversy, is now the strongest argument for ending the archaic institution of the monarchy. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England – another inherited role that should be discontinued. Charles, too, has benefited from this self-interested and abusive conduct, and some of the most odious royal traditions continue under him. For starters, in a country suffering from worsening inflation, a collapsing health service and rising poverty, King Charles III and his family will still enjoy an annual payment from the British government known as the “Sovereign Grant.” The grant cost British taxpayers £86.3 million ($100.12 million) in 2021 and was further increased by £27.3 million ($31.67 million) over the next two years to help cover a 17% rise in spending by the royals. The grant has been used for a variety of items, from the upkeep of many palaces to £32,000 (more than $37,000) for a chartered flight for Charles to attend a James Bond movie premiere (despite his years of pro-environment advocacy). Despite this guaranteed income from taxpayers, Charles has reportedly invested millions in offshore tax havens. According to a set of leaked documents known as the Paradise Papers, The Guardian reported that Charles had invested private money in a Bermuda-based sustainable forestry firm. Given his environmental stances, the revelation sparked allegations of a conflict of interest. Charles’ investment team said, however, that he did not have “any direct involvement in the investment decisions.” In June, The Sunday Times reported that Charles had previously accepted €1 million ($1.16 million) in cash for his foundation in a suitcase, part of €3 million ($3.48 million) in total, from a former Qatari prime minister. The charity was later found to have accepted millions from Osama Bin Laden’s family as well. Charles also has no claim to moral leadership, negating any argument that the monarchy remains important as a sober ceremonial force in society. Charles famously engaged in an extramarital affair with Camilla Parker Bowles while being married to “People’s Princess” Diana. He now assumes not only the throne but becomes the head of the Church of England — another inherited role that should be discontinued. Of course, the arrogance of Charles presuming to be a religious figure was passed down for generations within the British monarchy. The Church of England was first established because in 1534 King Henry VIII, frustrated by Catholicism’s prohibition on divorce, established a new branch of Christianity, made himself the head and promptly permitted divorce. Without Henry’s entitled precedent, Charles would not have been able to divorce Diana and still have a claim to the crown. When you add in the treatment of Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and the behavior of Charles’ brother Andrew, the standing of the British royal family is only further degraded. To expect us to instantly refer to Charles as “His Majesty,” as if he is automatically a man of dignity, is laughable. The monarchy should have ended years ago. With Charles at the helm, it most certainly should end now. Nah you don't get it. Christian & Conservative? My eye. You stuffed that whole post by including the bit - "add in the treatment of Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex". What treatment was that? She's nothing but a narcissistic trouble maker.

With all due respect WTF would you know about being a daughter in law? You're not even a bloody woman! I've experienced being a daughter in law TWICE. Both times I was on the outside trying to fit into a family with very different socio/cultural/religious values. The fact that I produced the only grandsons in both marriages helped me get a foot in the door. I shudder to think what would have happened to me if I hadn't.

Now let's get back to these daughter in laws.

Meghan is on the outside (and so was Diana).

Unlike poor Diana ... Meghan has a decent guy by her side and he has her back. At first I was a little shocked that Harry would have chosen a divorced actress for a wife. However it slowly became clear to me that Meghan is probably a good fit for him given what he's gone through (watching his mum suffer at the hands of his dad and dad's family). Meghan is older than him and has more life experience (in the area of marriage and divorce). I do think this will help her cope and survive. Meghan also has a strong capable mother for support. It's no surprise that she's back in the USA where she can finally feel safe and secure and able to function as a wife/mother.

;D Harry is a pussy whipped & dominated DH.

Markle is even a pariah to her own family let alone the Royals.

Don't even try to compare her to Harrys mother.

And she's always playing the race card. ;D

She's a 2 faced trouble maker.

Threw a tanty & went back to the states - wanted none of the Royal titles & trappings...or attention

yet she is hanging onto to them like no a woamn possessed .... & seeking all the publicity(the worst) she can get.

Poor poor pitiful her.

Wallace Simpson was a royal compared to her...

Markle is an egotistical tnuc.

As for me not being a daughter in law ... with all due respect ....DURRRRRH!!!!

Quote:

Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom).

Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni.

Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect. 

I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent.

Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece.

Cheers

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 8:02am:

Quote: Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom). Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni. Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect.  I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent. Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece. Cheers

Well, you can't say the Greeks knew their own mind regarding what kind of country they wanted,  monarchy versus republic,  fascist or democratic, over the last hundred years so I wouldn't take Greece as a guide for Australia.
Nor any country from Portugal to Russia or from Germany to Cape Town, except as cautionary tales.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 8:02am:

Quote: Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom). Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni. Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect.  I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent. Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece. Cheers

Had nothing to do with teaching you anything...

maybe just a pointed reminder ... that all the European Royals are related.

But you want to go back to Codrus?

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 7:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:49am: Hi Lisa, young people do silly things due to their immaturity. I'd forget it as I'm sure one day they will be very embarrassed by what they've done. Good point. Even so...I still intend to write to a number of Sydney Uni staff members. The published article was beyond the pale.

Don't bother - they are just silly kids.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 8:02am:

I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni.

George I 1863-1913 was styled King of the Greeks Βασιλεὺς τῶν Ἑλλήνων, as were all other modern monarchs.
Codrus was a fake tax-dodger titled βασιλιάς των Αθηνών. When he was called a Greek king, the Athenian police handcuffed Ms Jones for racism and lack of history.

Lias went to Sydney University , checked her facts and found the Royals pay tax. But not to Sydney University where Lisa went as a Sydney University Scholar. Lisa did Greece. At Sydney University.
answer to question 1:
The Queen is Camilla, Lisa's favourite.

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:02am: Quote: Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom). Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni. Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect.  I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent. Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece. Cheers Had nothing to do with teaching you anything... maybe just a pointed reminder ... that all the European Royals are related. But you want to go back to Codrus?

Dear God you're still sitting there struggling to understand GREEK history.

And you've now googled some dribble about European ie German/English styled Greek kings planted by foreign controlling empires. I'm seriously not interested. Nor am I impressed. If anything I'm quite perplexed at your level of ignorance.

Edit : Irrespective of your helpless inability to grasp a few simple historical facts pertaining to Greece as a monarchy ... I may well still be able to help you understand why Greece became a Republic.

I'll cut you some slack and give you the bottom line : It had enough of being controlled by foreign EUROPEAN ROYAL hypocrites pretending to be Greek in self STYLED title only. Not 1 of them had an ounce of Greek blood in them. Not one!

Out of curiosity why did you mention Codrus?

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 10:47am:

Greek kings planted by foreign controlling empires

The Greek kings were not Greek kings.-(Jones 2022).
Greek from Graikhos "inhabitant of Graia" (literally "gray, old, withered"). LJ called the king a gray old man and his wife a hag whore.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 10:47am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:24am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:02am: Quote: Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom). Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni. Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect.  I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent. Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece. Cheers Had nothing to do with teaching you anything... maybe just a pointed reminder ... that all the European Royals are related. But you want to go back to Codrus? Dear God you're still sitting there struggling to understand GREEK history. And you've now googled some dribble about European ie German/English styled Greek kings planted by foreign controlling empires. I'm seriously not interested. Nor am I impressed. If anything I'm quite perplexed at your level of ignorance. Edit : Irrespective of your helpless inability to grasp a few simple historical facts pertaining to Greece as a monarchy ... I may well still be able to help you understand why Greece became a Republic. I'll cut you some slack and give you the bottom line : It had enough of being controlled by foreign EUROPEAN ROYAL hypocrites pretending to be Greek in self STYLED title only. Not 1 of them had an ounce of Greek blood in them. Not one! Out of curiosity why did you mention Codrus?

Well how far back are you talking?

Codrus was born 1091BC

the last semi mythical King of Greece.

How is he a German (european royal)?

I'm not professing any expertise on ancient Greece ... let alone that that has bought out your air of superiority in such matters.

I'm not worried if your not interested, or perplexed or not impressed. And you're not cutting me any slack - I don't need it.

I'm not trying to make any sort of impression so I'd appreciate you hopping down off your high Trojan horse.

I'll leave you to ponder what my next response may be if you keep it up.

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 11:17am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 10:47am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:24am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:02am: Quote: Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom). Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni. Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect.  I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent. Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece. Cheers Had nothing to do with teaching you anything... maybe just a pointed reminder ... that all the European Royals are related. But you want to go back to Codrus? Dear God you're still sitting there struggling to understand GREEK history. And you've now googled some dribble about European ie German/English styled Greek kings planted by foreign controlling empires. I'm seriously not interested. Nor am I impressed. If anything I'm quite perplexed at your level of ignorance. Edit : Irrespective of your helpless inability to grasp a few simple historical facts pertaining to Greece as a monarchy ... I may well still be able to help you understand why Greece became a Republic. I'll cut you some slack and give you the bottom line : It had enough of being controlled by foreign EUROPEAN ROYAL hypocrites pretending to be Greek in self STYLED title only. Not 1 of them had an ounce of Greek blood in them. Not one! Out of curiosity why did you mention Codrus? Well how far back are you talking? Codrus was born 1091BC the last semi mythical King of Greece. How is he a German (european royal)? I'm not professing any expertise on ancient Greece ... let alone that that has bought out your air of superiority in such matters. I'm not worried if your not interested, or perplexed or not impressed. And you're not cutting me any slack - I don't need it. I'm not trying to make any sort of impression so I'd appreciate you hopping down off your high Trojan horse. I'll leave you to ponder what my next response may be if you keep it up.

And......I've just worked out what your other regular ID is.

Cheers

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 7:03am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 12:49am: Hi Lisa, young people do silly things due to their immaturity. I'd forget it as I'm sure one day they will be very embarrassed by what they've done. Good point. Even so...I still intend to write to a number of Sydney Uni staff members. The published article was beyond the pale. Don't bother - they are just silly kids.

There are a few of those on OzPol too 🥺

It's all Greek to me....

Which is my alternative regular here?

The challenge is out again...... lefty went - he put it that Gnads and I were one and the same - two parts of the same person separated by thousands of miles - wow ... Star Trek ..... and I put the challenge to him - prove it and I will do a Peccary and leave - fail and you leave....

He left... not sure why just yet... maybe freediver took him up on that challenge and enacted it for him.

He always was far too high strung, poor soul...

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 1:10pm:

It's all Greek to me....

It's like this. Greeks are cafe owners named Christophoulusaniki with a mustache. A Danish or Austrian person can't be a Greek citizen. The Welsh can't be in England or English in Wales. It's not natural. Read history. Support the Welsh who didn't have a king, just a prince called Prince Jones with a hag whore.

Coubla Days!   

Hey - did lefty suffer an infarction after pushing the 'gender wage gap poor sheilas' barrow  when he suddenly found out that in order to 'rectify' this 'problem' his own income would need to be slashed so that he wasn't abusing those poor girls doing the same work?

I mean you can't have a bloke and a sheila both working code and one copping more money, can you?

Bloody gender wage gap right there.... must've near killed him when it came into focus for him... and HE was the abuser .... hard to handle this social science bullshit, innit?

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa

Charles is a laughable figure. A Repubic is now inevitable

He cracked the runs with the pen.  Lizzy would never have done that.

Things are gunna be different.  He has had a very long time to plan what he wants to do.

random wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

He cracked the runs with the pen.  Lizzy would never have done that. Things are gunna be different.  He has had a very long time to plan what he wants to do.

the brits can keep the prick

A public holiday on the 22nd so we can mourn Liz woohoo!

No disrespect taken... I vote we take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit..... only way to be sure...

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

the brits can keep

Charles tortures, destroys and steals. He's dirty about the leaky pen and won't help with ironing. What about the corgis?

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa

This is the 2nd sensible comment I have seen from you. 

(The first was about polluters destroying the environment for our children and grandchildren).

But I think Charles has sensible views on  environmental sustainability, like David Attenborough.

Perhaps you could cut Charles some slack for abandoning Diana; sex relationships are tricky, Freud could no doubt explain why Charles dumped a  beautiful young Diana for an older  'plain' Camilla.

oh....and another area you need to acquaint yourself with is public sector funding, if we are to move beyond the forever L-R arguments about the quantum of taxes needed to fund the public sector (government).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/rba-review-will-it-consider-how-money-is-created-by-the-rba/101263806

It's the last taboo in central banking. So will the RBA review look at how money is created?


more important than the republic, to close the gaps (black and gender...)

Look - I'm an Australian Republican - I've had the  head man of the movement stay at my home while on the road... I just want to get rid of the kinds of parasites currently occupying the top slots in Corporation Australia, and replace them with a leader who is subject to the will of the people and elected by them.

So all your other fancy moves to retain the status quo which has done us so badly for 234 years now, are not within my lexicon - the book of future improvements needed in this country.

In case you all missed it - nothing new - I long ago advocated that our government Ministers should be elected by the people.... I can envisage a genuine Indigenous as Minister for Indigenous Affairs... someone genuinely disabled as Minister for Disabilities..... someone with experience at being utterly broke being the Minister for Social Security and so forth.................

All these private school kids and other privileged lots that go into politics for a diversion and some easy money, are not the kinds I want holding the reins of this nation...

As I've also said many times - there is nothing about Australia becoming a Republic that precludes it remaining part of the Commonwealth - Charles III The Much Maligned is head of that Commonwealth, but need not be head of our state, and we don't need governors, virtual kings or queens, of any kind.

As for the pharken pen - FCS - his mother died and he is hurting... becoming king was inevitable but still would be a shock ... a pharken pen playing up is enough for anyone to break character and seem spiffy when he's actually hurting.

Give the boy a break.... any man who talks to his plants to get them to grow better is all right by me.
Grow up a bit.  Some of you are utterly disgusting in your comments about Liz.

All Republicans should work the Public Holiday for the Queen.
;)

Jasin wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 10:28pm:

All Republicans should work the Public Holiday for the Queen. ;)

A Republican can still show respect....

Jasin wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 10:28pm:

All Republicans should work the Public Holiday for the Queen.

Well, many of them will be.  Thursday will  be a normal trading day in Victoria,
similar to that of the other states.  Retailers, cinemas, pharmacies, hotels and
restaurants will all be permitted to open.


Quote:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who announced the one-off public holiday, says the National Day of Mourning on Thursday 22 September, will allow people to pay their respects to Britain's longest-reigning monarch.

This is not a day of "mourning" for Elizabeth—it was tacked on to the holiday
Friday for the AFL finals holiday in Victoria in order for Albanese to support
the Andrews Labor government in the forthcoming state election.

The fact that the Queen's funeral is on the prior Monday gives the lie to the
public holiday's real purpose.  Realistically, it should've been on that Monday.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

I feel the need to clarify my position given some of the backlash I've received online for my views on the Royal Family. I'm clearly not a fan of the Royal family. The example set by them is shocking and shameful, selfish and self serving. I thank God every day that my children are nothing like the Queen's. I feel sorry for the poor girls who've married into the Royal family because they must grovel in order to survive. I don't like seeing women being mistreated and yet most of the current daughter in laws of this family have not been treated well. At this point I'd like to highlight the issue of hypocrisy. Let's never forget the fact that the billions of dollars in wealth owned by the Queen and her Royal family (I'm not referring to Monarchy owned palaces and jewellery etc) are tax free as she herself carefully invested in offshore havens to AVOID paying TAX to her own country. In addition, laws are in place giving herself and her family tax exemptions which other English citizens are not ENTITLED to. A monarch leads by example. Positive not negative example. I have not seen that in the late Queen and I certainly have not seen that in her children. I feel strongly that it's time Australia broke free of England and became a Republic. The current incumbent and his mistress must surely be enough of a wake up call to every Australian irrespective of age or culture. As a Christian and as a Conservative my conscience implores you all to reflect and/or pray for Australia and New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries whose leaders are currently seriously considering changing their model of government. I take this opportunity to pay my respects to the humble and unassuming women of Australia who have died without mention and without accolades all because they were not born into any position of power and privilege YET they gave their time, money and heart into helping those less fortunate than themselves. Lisa

Last time i checked it's still a free country people are allowed to have different opinions.

It's usually those from the left who don't think people should have opinions that differ from theirs.

20 years ago i thought we should cut our ties with the British monarch then my opinion changed to waiting till the Queen left that job before doing it. Now we have King Charles it's time to cut our ties.

I don't think we should change our flag as that will result in everyone around the world who has our flag having to buy another one it's not something i want to inflict on the rest of the world. I saw more Aussie flags in France than here which the French have flown since WW1 on their town halls in every city Aussie diggers liberated from the Germans. A lot of cafes pubs etc all have our flag on display as a tribute to the Aussies who went there to fight the Germans.

I think the Queen was pretty good was reading a story of her visiting a school one of the young kids didn't know who she was and asked whose nan is that.

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Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 11:23am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 11:17am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 10:47am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:24am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:02am: Quote: Lets not forget that the Greeks had a Royal Family as did the Italians. Prince Phillip was Greek. Quote: The last monarch of Greece was Constantine II, who is still alive today and currently resides in Greece (after more than 4 decades in exile). His line will continue through his son Pavlos. He is also a member of the House of Glücksburg and members of that royal house continue to rule Denmark and Norway. In addition, members of the Greek royal family have married into other royal families, such as Constantine's sister Queen Sofía (married to Juan Carlos of Spain) and his first cousin once removed Prince Philip (married to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom). Gnads a free tip : Don't attempt to teach me about my cultural/political history using quick rough googled excerpts like that (which incidentally you've yet to work out DON'T support YOUR case). It's also probably a good idea for you to know that I also studied both Modern and Ancient Greek history at Uni. Why am I offering you this free tip? I honestly don't enjoy tearing into posters I usually respect.  I will say this much though : your knowledge of European history is pretty much non existent. Nevertheless...if you re read your own link and perhaps read a bit more into the "Greek" Monarchy....you will find clues which might help you understand who the last GREEK King actually was. Hint : Think Ancient Greece. Cheers Had nothing to do with teaching you anything... maybe just a pointed reminder ... that all the European Royals are related. But you want to go back to Codrus? Dear God you're still sitting there struggling to understand GREEK history. And you've now googled some dribble about European ie German/English styled Greek kings planted by foreign controlling empires. I'm seriously not interested. Nor am I impressed. If anything I'm quite perplexed at your level of ignorance. Edit : Irrespective of your helpless inability to grasp a few simple historical facts pertaining to Greece as a monarchy ... I may well still be able to help you understand why Greece became a Republic. I'll cut you some slack and give you the bottom line : It had enough of being controlled by foreign EUROPEAN ROYAL hypocrites pretending to be Greek in self STYLED title only. Not 1 of them had an ounce of Greek blood in them. Not one! Out of curiosity why did you mention Codrus? Well how far back are you talking? Codrus was born 1091BC the last semi mythical King of Greece. How is he a German (european royal)? I'm not professing any expertise on ancient Greece ... let alone that that has bought out your air of superiority in such matters. I'm not worried if your not interested, or perplexed or not impressed. And you're not cutting me any slack - I don't need it. I'm not trying to make any sort of impression so I'd appreciate you hopping down off your high Trojan horse. I'll leave you to ponder what my next response may be if you keep it up. And......I've just worked out what your other regular ID is. Cheers

So again.... you're claiming I'm some one else here ::)

You're getting as bad as that idiot FutureLeft Wank

honestly that's what you seem to do to everyone

accuse them of being a multi nic

Stop being a dickhead Lisa or whom ever the pharrk you are ::) ;D

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16^th, 2022 at 10:43pm:

A Republican can still show respect....

The Plantagenets won the election in 1066 but the republican king Henry VII of Tudor roused the red-necks to riot and steal the title.  His method is a Royal Secret which may be declassified as 'Convict' for 14 years and flogging.  The Windsors still claim they won and have guns and power.