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Message started by aquascoot on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm

Title: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by aquascoot on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR2vPB5b20Y&t=41s

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by Dnarever on Sep 18th, 2022 at 5:49pm
Don't know what to make of this. Coming from Joe makes it suspicious. 

Can anyone confirm or refute any of this ?

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Sep 19th, 2022 at 7:37am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR2vPB5b20Y&t=41s


I'm not even watching Joe Rogan because I am not an idiot LOL!! All companies try to sell their products.  I would agree we need to make sure doctors are not influenced by pharma companies but I don't for a second think any pharma company hates money enough to sell a product they know harms people

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by Gordon on Sep 19th, 2022 at 8:34am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR2vPB5b20Y&t=41s


I'm not even watching Joe Rogan because I am not an idiot LOL!! All companies try to sell their products.  I would agree we need to make sure doctors are not influenced by pharma companies but I don't for a second think any pharma company hates money enough to sell a product they know harms people


You're as fkuing stupid as the day is long.
You're probably also obese, have type 2 diabetes and undergoing cognitive decline.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-02/allegations-of-scientific-fraud-alzheimers-research/101289780

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by Gordon on Sep 19th, 2022 at 8:38am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Don't know what to make of this. Coming from Joe makes it suspicious. 

Can anyone confirm or refute any of this ?


That's because team woke told you JR is bad and your mind is incapable of independent thought. Did you even bother to google his the guest, Max Lugavere?



Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Sep 19th, 2022 at 9:33am

Gordon wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 8:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Don't know what to make of this. Coming from Joe makes it suspicious. 

Can anyone confirm or refute any of this ?


That's because team woke told you JR is bad and your mind is incapable of independent thought. Did you even bother to google his the guest, Max Lugavere?


It is literally because I am not brain dead trash.  I am vaguely aware he's right wing gargage but, in general, I don't get my opinion from populist you tube channels.

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Sep 19th, 2022 at 9:34am

Gordon wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 8:34am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR2vPB5b20Y&t=41s


I'm not even watching Joe Rogan because I am not an idiot LOL!! All companies try to sell their products.  I would agree we need to make sure doctors are not influenced by pharma companies but I don't for a second think any pharma company hates money enough to sell a product they know harms people


You're as fkuing stupid as the day is long.
You're probably also obese, have type 2 diabetes and undergoing cognitive decline.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-02/allegations-of-scientific-fraud-alzheimers-research/101289780


This must be the fabled debating ability of the right wing

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2022 at 11:02am

Gordon wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 8:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Don't know what to make of this. Coming from Joe makes it suspicious. 

Can anyone confirm or refute any of this ?


That's because team woke told you JR is bad and your mind is incapable of independent thought. Did you even bother to google his the guest, Max Lugavere?


No I know that Joe is a dope of the highest order but that does not mean that his guest is wrong on this topic. Just asking is there anything reliable that supports this story.

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Sep 19th, 2022 at 11:03am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 11:02am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 8:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Don't know what to make of this. Coming from Joe makes it suspicious. 

Can anyone confirm or refute any of this ?


That's because team woke told you JR is bad and your mind is incapable of independent thought. Did you even bother to google his the guest, Max Lugavere?


No I know that Joe is a dope of the highest order but that does not mean that his guest is wrong on this topic. Just asking is there anything reliable that supports this story.


Me too.  I will look at a reliable source, but if this is all you have, it's BS

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2022 at 11:04am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 19th, 2022 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR2vPB5b20Y&t=41s


I'm not even watching Joe Rogan because I am not an idiot LOL!! All companies try to sell their products.  I would agree we need to make sure doctors are not influenced by pharma companies but I don't for a second think any pharma company hates money enough to sell a product they know harms people



Quote:
I'm not even watching Joe Rogan


Typically the best option however this is almost all Joe's guest explaining the situation. Still would like to know if it is real or more typical of anything that Joe is pushing, its not clear to me at this point.

Title: Re: WOW big pharma lying about dementia to make $$$$
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 20th, 2022 at 2:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Don't know what to make of this. Coming from Joe makes it suspicious. 

Can anyone confirm or refute any of this ?


You have every reason to be suspicious.  Rogan is the purveyor of
a litany of misrepresentation, half truths, conspiracy theories, and
blatant lies.  I'm guessing his head connected with the canvas all
too often LOL.

And of Max Lugavere, Wikipedia says this:

Lugavere promotes a low-carbohydrate diet of grass-fed beef, free-range
chicken and pasture-raised or omega-3 enriched eggs with low-carbohydrate
fibrous vegetables, extra virgin olive oil and salt. In May 2018, Lugavere and
Paul Grewal co-authored the book Genius Foods which discusses the link
between diet and brain health.
In 2018, Jonathan Jarry of McGill University's Office for Science and Society
analysed Lugavere's health-related claims in his book, Genius Foods, and
podcast, and concluded that Lugavere lacked the credentials to accurately
interpret the scientific literature used to substantiate his health claims,
and acknowledged Lugavere's business ambitions. Jarry noted that "Lugavere
appears like a proponent of common-sense solutions to ill health—better nutrition,
exercise and sleep—but it’s only when you start to trust him that he reveals himself
to be a naive believer in anything that has a study behind it. His book has received
endorsements from people like Dr. Oz (!) and "functional medicine" proponent
Mark Hyman (!) and this company is telling.



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