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Title: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 7th, 2022 at 10:12pm
Are we doomed?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63167947 Ukraine war: Biden says nuclear risk highest since 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis Published 3 hours ago President Biden said the Russian leader was "not joking" when he talked about using tactical nuclear, biological or chemical weapons By Nathan Williams BBC News The risk of a nuclear "Armageddon" is at its highest level since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, US President Joe Biden has said. Mr Biden said Russia's President Vladimir Putin was "not joking" when he spoke of using tactical nuclear weapons after suffering setbacks in Ukraine. The US was "trying to figure out" Mr Putin's way out of the war, he added. The US and the EU have previously said Mr Putin's nuclear sabre-rattling should be taken seriously. However, the US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan last week said that, despite Moscow's nuclear hints, the US had seen no signs that Russia was imminently preparing to use a nuclear weapon. How many nuclear weapons does Russia have? Ukraine has been retaking territory occupied by Russia, including in the four regions Russia illegally annexed recently. For several months US officials have been warning that Russia could resort to the use of weapons of mass destruction, if it suffers setbacks on the battlefield. President Biden said the reason the Russian leader had not been "not joking" when he talked about using tactical nuclear, biological or chemical weapons - "because his military is, you might say, significantly underperforming". "For the first time since the Cuban Missile Crisis, we have a direct threat to the use of nuclear weapons, if in fact things continue down the path they'd been going," Mr Biden told fellow Democrats. "We have not faced the prospect of Armageddon since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis." |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 7th, 2022 at 10:17pm
Biden has led us into a nuclear war.
We followed like sheep - is this the End Times as prophesied in the Bible? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 8th, 2022 at 9:04am
Zelensky Pounds War Drums: Russia Preparing Nuclear Attack on West
Ukrainian President Zelensky is talking again about nuclear war. Yesterday he told an Australian forum that NATO should launch a preemptive nuclear attack on Russia. Today he told BBC that Russia is preparing to attack NATO. video here: https://www.trunews.com/stream/zelensky-pounds-war-drums-russia-preparing-nuclear-attack-on-west |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 11:13am
Shut up, Blooby.
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Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by MeisterEckhart on Oct 8th, 2022 at 11:19am Bobby. wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 9:04am:
No nuclear-armed NATO country will use nuclear weapons - not preemptively or retaliatory. NATO is vastly superior to Russia with its capacity for conventional warfare. What is likely to happen in the event of a nuclear strike from Russia, is that every Russian military interest in the world would become a legitimate target for conventional attack. No major state actor would stand in NATO's way of this form of retaliation. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 8th, 2022 at 11:24am Marla wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 11:13am:
Marla hates me. :'( |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:13pm
Shut up, Blooby
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Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by lee on Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:41pm Be nice to poor Marla, She's only half-left. Meanwhile Joe is doubling down on his efforts to emasculate the US of A. Now that he has been rebuffed by Saudis etc who cut back more when he pleaded for increased oil, he is now courting Venezuela, winding back sanctions. ::) |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:57pm lee wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Yeah, Joe should take a page from ol' orange F A T T Y and suck Saudi dick and turn a blind eye to Princes murdering journalist in New York hotel rooms. If Biden had any balls, he cut off all arms sales to Saudi and have them buy RuZzian equipment - since it works so well. Quit being such a god damn hippie |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by lee on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:02pm Marla wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:57pm:
He tried and they knocked him back. ::) The only time Joe found his mouth was not BIG enough. ;) "On Wednesday, OPEC+, the oil cartel led by Saudi Arabia and Russia, agreed to slash production by 2 million barrels per day, twice as much as analysts had predicted, in the biggest cut since the Covid-19 pandemic. An intense pressure campaign by the US to dissuade its Arab allies from the cut ahead of the decision seemingly fell on deaf ears. Russia is already pumping below its OPEC+ ceiling, and the bulk of the cuts will be made by Gulf producers. " https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/07/business/saudi-araibia-us-opec-mime-intl CNN wouldn't lie would it? 8-) |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:07pm lee wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:02pm:
Good one, lee. Way to make an argument, lee. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by lee on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:09pm lee wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:02pm:
CNN wouldn't lie would it? 8-) My edit. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:13pm
lee thinks lee is funny. lee made a joke about CNN. lee thinks that is funny
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Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by lee on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:21pm
Poor Marla. More delusional than normal.
Thinks "shut up" is making an argument. ::) |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:28pm
lee is a comedian. lee made a CNN joke. lee wants to blow ol' orange F A T T Y for lee thinks that too is funny. lee is a funny guy. lee at one time made a joke about CNN. It was funny. lee made it funny. lee is a funny guy.
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Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 8th, 2022 at 2:30pm
Oh, and shut up, lee.
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Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Lols on Oct 10th, 2022 at 3:25pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 11:19am:
I thing you’re right. In the meantime, I was sent this! https://fb.watch/g3kxXJUu0W/ Might pay to have some iodine tablets in home medicine chest? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Lols on Oct 10th, 2022 at 3:34pm
It’s making me think this looks more like a war between USA and Russia.
The gas pipes was a start to heavy handedness. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:17pm lee wrote on Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Oh, I know. He'll be calling Putin a genius next. You? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:23pm |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by aquascoot on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:54pm
bobby
when nukes were first a threat, one of the advisors to the president was a mormon and he put america on the road to bunkers and prepping. the mormons are big preppers. most of them have enough dried food to last several months in all seriousness, i think you should buy some provisions, a generator, a few jerry cans of fuel. whilst a nuke wont hit us, if vlad does launch one you can expect global trade to come to a grinding halt for a while and we will run out of fuel fairly quick no fuel, no groceries, probably some rolling blackouts, probably a lot of civil unrest, probably the law of the jungle. i think anyone who doesnt have the common sense to make sure they can provide their own power and food for at least several weeks is nutz. now if their is a nuclear holocaust, all that goes out the window and the best thing to do would be to take cyanide. if america were to retaliate with nukes its all over. nice knowing you ;) |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:54pm:
Only the very rich have proper bunkers - people like Bill Gates. The rest of us will die. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by aquascoot on Oct 11th, 2022 at 6:10pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
in a full on nuclear war, you would be hoping a nuke landed right on your house, quick painless death. but a more likely scenario is supply chains and trade come to a screeching halt and we have to reorganise on the fly. australia could do that but there will be a lot of chaos for several months , probably looting and lawlessness and hunger and assaults and people attacking neighbours for resources. rural folk tend to come together , so no big deal but without all the supply chains, not much is going to reach fat steve and fat janeen living in suburbia and whinging about their pension. they cant eat money, they cant put a government cheque in their fuel tank. i can see some really bad things happening in cities without power and fuel. no power, no water, no sewage, no refridgeration. bobby, the government couldnt even handle a sniffles virus. if you think albo or dan can have ANY effect on your life in a big city if trade and commerce and money flows shut down, you are out of your freaking mind so take a couple grand get a generator, 100 litres of fuel, 200 bucks worth of rice and tinned tuna, fill your bath with water and deadlock the doors. you can be the new will smith You Are Legend |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 11th, 2022 at 6:27pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 11th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
In the 1980s I had an old French friend who lived under the Vichy Govt. during WW2 in the South of France. He was sent to a farm with about 20 other kids and received schooling there from a real teacher. He was happy to be out of the war - he received an education and always good farm food. They were taught how to do farming too. German soldiers would visit once per month but all they wanted was a car boot load of food and they would be happy and go away. Farms give you safety. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by aquascoot on Oct 11th, 2022 at 7:37pm
food and fuel bobby.
they are the essentials. so many people in big cities have things like superannuation accounts and bonds and negatively geared this or that . they think its high status to outsource everything, lease a car you dont even know how to check the oil on, have an app to order your dinner and some dude comes and drops it off. they are totally divorced from nature. they just expect that the wall socket will always work, their credit card will always work, the toilet will always flush, the cops will always come, the hospital will always look after them. they have no idea how fragile these complex systems are. optus which is a pretty big tech company got hacked so easily. one day the power grid or the monetary system or the refineries or the hospitals will get hacked and they might be down for a while. you want to be as self reliant as possible. dont rely on albo or dan..they got nothing dont rely on the big banks and super bosses..they will be off on their corporate jets before you get out of your apartment self reliance is the key and knowing people with real skills like us farmers the chode probably wont make it. he is only suited to a very safe and pandered environment he has been deskilled and dumbed down and he is really a helpless baby. vlad is an action man who despises weakness. i think theres a little part of vlad that wants to put the blowtorch on the west. if vlad did, for instance have cancer and his doc said, vlad, your time is up pal. vlad may do something to create a "challenging" environment to sort out the men from the boys. i think vlad would justify this to himself as a resetting of humanity to reward toughness, resilience, the ability to endure and man up in a crisis. the west dont get that. the instincts of people like biden and trudeau and albo and jacinda re to try to make their citizens lifes as unchallenging as possible to try to nerf every corner of the country keep their little chickens safe be super sensitive and sweet and pander. vlad seems like the sort of guy who chucks his 6 yo in the pool to teach him to swim. he might see a nuke exchange as good for humanity. he might see it as "the great reset" like a good boy scout, you should be prepared to meet such a challenge |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 11th, 2022 at 11:33pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 11th, 2022 at 5:54pm:
You'll be given the order when the time is right, Aquascoot. You await instructions from the "noble Vlad" before you go drinking any kool aid, okay? He's a little bit naughty. The Superior Man's like that. The chodes don't like it, but what can they do? Stand back and stand by, leftards. Russia, if you're listening, over and out, okay? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by aquascoot on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:16am Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11th, 2022 at 11:33pm:
at least you got that sentence right what they can do is prepare and learn self reliance and resilience |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:22am aquascoot wrote on Oct 11th, 2022 at 7:37pm:
In some ways city kids should spend one school year on farm. They might understand the world a little better. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:53am Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:22am:
Oh Blooby, all you need to do is come out of the closet. It's that simple |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by MeisterEckhart on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:55am Marla wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:53am:
So, American farm workers are all gay. Explains country music, I guess. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:00am Marla wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:53am:
Hi Marla, there is a rumor going around that you're a bit of a rug muncher - not that there's .... :-[ |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:03am aquascoot wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:16am:
Or stock up on some cyanide and await orders. Either/or, no? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Marla on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:07am MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:55am:
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Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:12am Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:22am:
Not when they can bow down before the fridge and weep tears of pure gratitude, Bobby. If we have any advice for the young man of today, it's to go out and make his first mil. Of course, he'll need a role model, someone who vibes with awesomeness and positive male energy. They need to study him. Can you think of anyone? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:14am Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:12am:
Aqua? No? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:26am Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:14am:
Just so. Now can you think of anyone else? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:35am Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:26am:
Aqua has already got his garden beds laid out - full of chook manure and he's buying all the right seeds. He'll survive the apocalypse while lessor men will go hungry including their wives and children. He hasn't told us how he'll stop people jumping over his fence at 3am and stealing a few potatoes and cabbages - or how he'll protect his hen house? Has he got a cow? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 10:08am Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 8:35am:
Hard to say, Bobby. The "noble Scoot" most certainly has a horse. We do know this much. You? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 10:16am Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 10:08am:
He's a survivor - he's a winner. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 2:04pm No answers? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 2:15pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
I see. So after years of promoting Putin as the second saviour of the white race, you now want to spruik fear and hysteria AKA Alex Jones. BREAKING... Do you know what you are, Bobby? You're a survivor. Something tells me you'll get along just fine. Belt and braces, innit. Be alert. Australia needs more lerts, no? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 2:21pm Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
I used to be impressed by Putin riding his horse bare chested - I suppose it impressed Aqua too? Aqua likes horses - he likes the Alpha male image. Putin was good at Judo too - he was a black belt. Now I don't like Putin - he's a murderer - he's a beast and I hope they hang em and hang em high. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 3:42pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
Yes, but you do like his friend, your beloved Dear Leader, elite property developer and star of the hit reality show, the Apprentice. You still like him, no? Do you have anything to add? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:08pm Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 3:42pm:
Alpha Trump would have been a lot better than senile Biden. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:25pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:08pm:
In which respect? Putin? No. Global warming? No. The economy? No. Chi-na? Mexico? The big, beautiful wall? Come come. Alpha Trump's own senior staff see him as incapable of anything but throwing his din dins at the wall. They're all on record saying he's the most incompetent person they've ever worked for. The only thing Trump administrations are any good at is keeping Alpha Trump out of the way, and even then, they couldn't stop him sabotaging his own agenda on Twitter. Shurely shome mishtake, no? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:49pm Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:25pm:
Barbaric anti-Christ Putin would never have invaded Ukraine if Trump was the President. Fat Kim wouldn't have fired all those missiles and he wouldn't be about to test another nuke. Millions have refugees from South America wouldn't have got into the USA. The world wouldn't be in an economic crisis. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:09pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
Oh, I see. Are you saying Fat Kim didn't fire missiles or develop nukes when Dear Leader was in? Are you saying refugees didn't flood in before covid border closures? And are you saying Dear Leader would have done anything to stop Barbaric anti-Christ Putin? I know him very very well? I will say this, I see no reason why Putin would do it? Russia, if you're listening... ? Come come. Dear Leader even asked Comey what Putin had on him in that - ahem - Moscow hotel room. Dear Leader pestered Congress to remove the sanctions. Dear Leader's campaign team met with Russian agents. Dear Leader made his interpreter destroy minutes of his meetings with Putin. He did everything he could to appease, suck up and assist Putin, including blocking military aid to Ukraine. Your Dear Leader thinks Putin's a genius for taking all that Ukrainian real estate in return for $2 worth of sanctions. He wants Putin in America to defend the southern border. Genius, just genius. You? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:19pm Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:09pm:
Hi Karnal, I see you're not a true believer. They said the same about the last prophet and messiah too - they crucified him. You're a doubting Thomas. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by chimera on Oct 12th, 2022 at 6:21pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 4:08pm:
'So we hit the Capitol at zero hour, Mr President. Do you have logistics?' 'Lots of ..logs.? Just fight like hell' 'And tactics, Sir. What's the internal layout?' 'Taxes. Internal ..what? You're sacked. Get Hank'. 'How? Who does network?' 'Rudy. Rudy. Tell this.. where's Rudy' 'They need hammers, Mr Commander Sir. For the windows'. 'Not hammers. Rope for Pence. Where is he?' 'Here's a pistol Sir. It's what Adolf did'. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 12th, 2022 at 10:33pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 5:19pm:
You were once a true believer, Bobby, remember? Until your second favourite despot attacked Ukraine, anyway. Stopped believing, eh? No worries. A crisis of faith. Been there done that, no? Do you think you'll hear us out next time? |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 13th, 2022 at 5:27am Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 10:33pm:
But Putin is a false prophet. Matt 24: KJV 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. |
Title: Re: nuclear risk highest since Cuban Missile Crisis Post by Bobby. on Oct 13th, 2022 at 7:23am
Billionaires Bunkers: This Is smacking CRAZY
79,008 views Oct 13, 2022 Some of the wealthiest people in America are getting ready for the crackup of civilization by building luxury doomsday bunkers. Wanna get in on some survival action? Got a spare $10 million? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcHt2XSOQz8 |
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