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Title: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm

Quote:

Today, we released an analysis on COVID-19 mRNA vaccines the public needs to be aware of. This analysis showed an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39. FL will not be silent on the truth.

https://twitter.com/FLSurgeonGen/status/1578515633159180289?cxt=HHwWgsDUrdzmgegrAAAA

Quote:

Guidance for mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
October 7, 2022

The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination.

The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old.

Individuals and health care providers should also be aware that this analysis1 found:
• Males over the age of 60 had a 10% increased risk of cardiac-related death within 28 days of
mRNA vaccination.
• Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks among any population

The Department continues to stand by its Guidance for Pediatric COVID-19 Vaccines issued March
2022, which recommends against use in healthy children and adolescents 5 years old to 17 years old.
This now includes recommendations against COVID-19 vaccination among infants and children under
5 years old, which has since been issued under Emergency Use Authorization.

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-doc.pdf

Australian Bureau of Statistics data showed a 99.9% survival rate for those under 60 up to Delta variant when our vaccination rate was below 30%.

I guess the internet experts will disagree with the Florida surgeon general and take Lisa Wilkinsons advice

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 2:21am

From the paper...

Conclusions:

In this statewide study of vaccinated Florida residents aged 18 years or older, COVID-vaccination was
not associated with an elevated risk for all-cause mortality. COVID-19 vaccination was associated with a
modestly increased risk for cardiac-related mortality 28 days following vaccination. Results from the
stratified analysis for cardiac-related death following vaccination suggests mRNA vaccination may be
driving the increased risk in males, especially among males aged 18 - 39. Risk for both all-cause and
cardiac-related deaths was substantially higher 28 days following COVID-19 infection. The risk associated
with mRNA vaccination should be weighed against the risk associated with COVID-19 infection.

These data are preliminary, based on surveillance data, and should be interpreted with caution. The
results have several limitations:

While this method has been used to assess risk of death following COVID-19 vaccination, it violates the
assumption that an event does not affect subsequent exposure (for mRNA vaccines), which may
introduce bias.

Further, it does not consider the multidose vaccination schedule required for mRNA vaccination.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 7:48am

"1 These data are preliminary and based on surveillance and death certificate data, not medical records."

"These data are preliminary, based on surveillance data, and should be interpreted with caution. The
results have several limitations:"

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 12:47pm

The back peddling is just beginning. Watch them all duck for cover and the blame games begin.

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 9:46pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:26am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

The back peddling is just beginning. Watch them all duck for cover and the blame games begin...

Alex Antic is an anti-vaxxer. Say no more.

In December last year, Antic returned to Adelaide from Canberra having
obtained a travel exemption for unvaccinated persons—the exemption
having only been granted on appeal on the condition he spent 14 days
quarantine in isolation at a Medi-hotel.

The prior month, Antec supported One Nation’s COVID‑19 Vaccination
Status (Prevention of Discrimination) Bill 2021, opposing the Federal
government's position.

BTW, one "back-pedals". ;)

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:46am

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

https://twitter.com/FLSurgeonGen/status/1578515633159180289?cxt=HHwWgsDUrdzmgegrAAAA

Oh dear... Ladapo has a public history of promoting unproven treatments
for COVID, writing an op-ed in the New York Daily News in 2020 touting
the drug hydroxychloroquine—which the World Health Organization warned
is not an effective prevention or treatment method for COVID.

He also appeared with and praised America's Frontline Doctors, a group of
pro-Trump health care workers that has spread misinformation about the
pandemic.

Earlier this month, Ladapo recommended that men aged 18 to 39 should
not be vaccinated against COVID-19, citing a disputed analysis. He has
also opposed gender-affirming care and counselling, hormonal therapies,
related medications for transgender and nonbinary children, and social
transitions, contradicting recommendations by the AAP, the Endocrine Society,
and other organisations.

Florida has among the highest number of coronavirus cases, hospitalisations
and deaths in the US. Over the past 28 days [23 September], there have
been nearly 425,000 confirmed cases in the state, according to Johns Hopkins
University, and more than 9,100 deaths. Florida's COVID hospitalisations
reached a record high of over 16,000 in mid-August 2022 according to the
Florida Hospital Association.

—In short then... Ladapo is a quack. End of story. >:(

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Yadda on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:16am

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

[/quote]

WWW search....
Vaccinated Populations Suffering Strange New Illness
OAN: Vaccinated populations suffering new illness. peer-reviewed clots in in 95% of vaxxed

There is a video at OAN

Quote:

Vaccinated populations suffering new illness, Dr.'s report foreign compounds found in vaccines
One America News Network
Published October 5, 2022

Security cameras from around the world are capturing frightening new footage of people collapsing in spasms on the ground in what may be the latest symptom of exposure to the COVID-19 vaccines.
......

https://rumble.com/v1mrr1e-vaccinated-populations-suffering-new-illness-dr.s-report-foreign-compounds-.html

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Yadda on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am

WWW search....
Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

All of these reported 'Post-Vaccine Deaths' are probably just a baseless rumour.

That is why the [AS HONEST AS THE DAY IS LONG] MSM do not cover such reports.
:P :P :P

Honest !

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:38am

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:16am:

https://rumble.com/v1mrr1e-vaccinated-populations-suffering-new-illness-dr.s-report-foreign-compounds-.html

LOL... I can only assume that this particular video is a spoof. For
anybody to take it seriously, they'd have to have a single-digit IQ.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm

I hope you are being honest when you say you have had the vax Jeff. I look forward to the day when you go silent key.

Your answer to everything, this person is anti vax. Thats the level of your science and investigation. You offer nothing in the way of constructive discussion. So please go and get your next shot so we can all be rid of you.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Carl D on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

You offer nothing in the way of constructive discussion. So please go and get your next shot so we can all be rid of you.

That's actually quite funny coming from someone who appears to be the Mr. Hyde to Sir Nail's Dr. Jekyll. ;D

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:16pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

You offer nothing in the way of constructive discussion. So please go and get your next shot so we can all be rid of you.

That's actually quite funny coming from someone who appears to be the Mr. Hyde to Sir Nail's Dr. Jekyll. ;D

Poor Karl.

Feeling a bit left out are we Dopey? Your a fine one to talk acting as Jeffs second tongue.

Go get your next shot Dopey. Be gone with you.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 1:15pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

You offer nothing in the way of constructive discussion. So please go and get your next shot so we can all be rid of you.

That's actually quite funny coming from someone who appears to be the Mr. Hyde to Sir Nail's Dr. Jekyll. ;D

Calling me Dr Jekyl doesn't change the fact that you are a dead man walking and so is your aunty ;)

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by buzzanddidj on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 1:40pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

The back peddling is just beginning. Watch them all duck for cover and the blame games begin.

Medical experts reject Trump appointed Florida surgeon general’s Covid-19 vaccine claim

10/11/2022 09:22 PM EDT

Daniel Salmon, director of the Institute for Vaccine Safety at Johns Hopkins University, said Ladapo’s recommendations go against guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and American Academy of Pediatrics. Other agencies or medical associations, including the Food and Drug Administration and Mayo Clinic, have also emphasized that the vaccines are safe and effective.

“It looks to me like this is politics driving science,” Salmon said on Tuesday. “And the result is you get terrible science.”

U.S. Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Sarah Lovenheim called Ladapo’s analysis flawed and a far cry from science.

“COVID-19 vaccines have been proven safe and effective, and severe adverse reactions are rare,” Lovenheim wrote in a statement. “The benefits of COVID-19 vaccination — preventing death and hospitalization — are well-established and continue to outweigh any potential risks.”

Ladapo claims his analysis was based on a Florida Department of Health study showing an 84 percent increase in cardiac related deaths among men aged 18 to 39 years old within 28 days of becoming vaccinated through mRNA vaccines. Yet the medical community rejected the analysis Ladapo promoted.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/11/medical-experts-reject-florida-surgeon-generals-covid-vaccine-guidance-00061352

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Frank on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 2:16pm

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

In COVID hearing, #Pfizer director admits: #vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission.

"Get vaccinated for others" was always a lie.

The only purpose of the #COVID passport: forcing people to get vaccinated.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593

Pfizer: "we had to move at the speed of science".

Experts, eh?

Politicised science.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by buzzanddidj on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 2:34pm

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 2:16pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

Politicised science.

Let's HEAR it for Twitter write your own "news"

and DIY meme news "headlines"

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 4:03pm

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

I hope you are being honest when you say you have had the vax Jeff. I look forward to the day when you go silent key.

Your answer to everything, this person is anti vax. That's the level of your science and investigation. You offer nothing in the way of constructive discussion. So please go and get your next shot so we can all be rid of you.

Yep... I've had my two initial vaccinations, plus my two boosters—last
one on 30 July. Me and my partner had zero negative side effects,
although she had a slightly sore injection site for a couple of days.

I think it's pretty obvious from the thrust of their comments exactly
who the anti-vaxxers are—even if they don't say it in as many words.
That I've been fully vaccinated supports the fact that I've done a lot
more research on the COVID vaccines than the anti-vaxxers, who've
in the main have relied on unverified or absurd conspiracy theories.

The people who offer nothing constructive are the anti-vaxxers who
unquestioningly accept all sorts of silly claims about "big pharma" or
governments, or crooked doctors conspiring to kill off or disable people
with phony or life-threatening drugs as some part of the new world order.
There's certainly NO science involved in their impractical decision
to forgo vaccination.

And it's actually funny when you say I offer no "constructive discussion",
considering that earlier one of your posts directed at Greg was... uh...
hardly "constructive".

Quote:

Inadequate support: Your reply provided no evidence demonstrating a link between the presence of a single brain cell in your head compared to a single surviving cell in deceased people from a covid vaccine.

Misleading: The laboratory analysis of your single living brain cell has critical methodological flaws, including a sample size of one cell and the inadequate use of another single cell sample as a control. These issues invalidate the results from your analysis and the conclusions you have drawn from them.

Can I ask if you've had the vaccines Reggie, and if not, then why not?

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Yadda on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 4:24pm

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 2:16pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

Politicised science.

...and, 'Politicised science' only qualifies as pseudo/fake science. [e.g. 'the Emperor has no clothes']

It is a [fake] 'science' which always censures [i.e. 'outlaws'] criticism or real scrutiny.

All real science simply accepts, any stated and currently accepted hypothesis.
....only until a better hypothesis [in challenge] is presented.

Real science isn't, ever, afraid of its [honest] suppositions being questioned, tested, and scrutinised.

But we know, that 'Politicised science' is a fake science, ....because its adherents and proponents only ever pretend, that they have respect for scrutiny and truth.

pseudo = = not genuine; fake, pretentious, or insincere.

hypothesis = = a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation. a proposition made as a basis for reasoning.

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Quote:

"Science isn't 'science', if people can no longer question it!"

An Australian hospital nurse, who had been sacked for refusing to be 'vaccinated'

"There is no such thing as consensus science.
If it’s consensus, it isn’t science.
If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period…."
- Michael Crighton

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Frank on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 5:21pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 2:16pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:45pm:

Politicised science.

Let's HEAR it for Twitter write your own "news"

and DIY meme news "headlines"

An EU committee hearing.

Why do you have the urge to deny what is before your very eyes? (Not so scrupulous about what is lurking behind your Khyber Pass? )

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 6:11pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Can I ask if you've had the vaccines Reggie, and if not, then why not?

errrm no, probably because it f.cks you up big time :D LOL

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by buzzanddidj on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 6:11pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

Can I ask if you've had the vaccines Reggie, and if not, then why not?

no, probably because it f.cks you up big time

THAT'S odd - I'd heard it was "mandatory" to be vaccinated ?

Meaning of mandatory in English.
Something that is mandatory must be done, or is demanded by law:
The minister is calling for mandatory prison sentences for people who assault police officers.

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/eb/qa/compulsory-mandatory-and-obligatory

Shouldn't the unvaccinated be fugitives, on the run from the law ?

Are the conspiracy theorists lying, in their claims that vaccines are mandatory ?

Or are they lying in saying they are unvaccinated ?

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 8:28pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 6:11pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

Can I ask if you've had the vaccines Reggie, and if not, then why not?

no, probably because it f.cks you up big time

It was until they realized it was crippling the workforce and killing people. :(

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Yadda on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 9:42pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

Shouldn't the unvaccinated be fugitives, on the run from the law ?

No buzzanddidj.

You are confused.

The unvaccinated, are NOT criminals.

It is violent criminals who ought to be 'on the run from the law'. :P

In some workplaces in Australia, the COVID unvaccinated just get dismissed from their jobs.
[.....so not COVID vaccinated ? Some workers have bee 'dismissed', and therefore, no more pay-packets to be able to pay their home mortgages.]

in australia, police, nurses, covid vaccination mandatory
WWW search....

Quote:

Growing number of nurses, police apply to challenge COVID vaccine mandate
By Cloe Read
October 14, 2021

A growing number of nurses and police officers have applied to challenge their employer’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

On Thursday, Health Minister Yvette D’Ath said the Nurses’ Professional Association of Queensland had applied to the Supreme Court requesting to have the mandatory vaccination of health workers overturned.....

......As of Wednesday, a police spokeswoman said there were 36 officers and 24 staff members who had been suspended over the mandate, but since then, one officer and one staff member had complied with the direction and had their suspension revoked.

There were 438 employees – which represents 2.5 per cent of the QPS – yet to officially record their vaccination in line with Commissioner Katarina Carroll’s direction, but majority were due to being on maternity or medical leave.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/growing-number-of-nurses-police-apply-to-challenge-covid-vaccine-mandate-20211014-p59061.html

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 4:42pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Can I ask if you've had the vaccines Reggie, and if not, then why not?

Hey there Dopey.

You say you did your research and you chose to take it.

I also did my research and I have chosen not to take it.

I don't see your problem. You are vaxxed and protected so you seem to think. You have a problem with people who have exercised their right and chosen not take it? Go get your next booster.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:48pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

[quote]
Guidance for mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
October 7, 2022

The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination.

The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old.

Individuals and health care providers should also be aware that this analysis1 found:
• Males over the age of 60 had a 10% increased risk of cardiac-related death within 28 days of
mRNA vaccination.
• Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks among any population

The Department continues to stand by its Guidance for Pediatric COVID-19 Vaccines issued March
2022, which recommends against use in healthy children and adolescents 5 years old to 17 years old.
This now includes recommendations against COVID-19 vaccination among infants and children under
5 years old, which has since been issued under Emergency Use Authorization.

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-doc.pdf

Todd Woodbridge survives heart attack and issues urgent health warning - after Shane Warne, Darren Lehmann and other top Australian athletes suffered major cardiac incidents around same age

Super fit Australian tennis champion Todd Woodbridge has encouraged people to get a health check after suffering a heart attack last week.

The 51-year-old commentator who won 16 grand slam doubles titles with doubles partner Mark Woodforde has described the incident as a 'wake-up call' of the hidden dangers even for the fittest of middle-aged people.

At 51, Woodbridge is a year younger than Shane Warne when he had his fatal attack while a slew of other Australian sports figures have had heart attacks around that same age.

'It was last Thursday, I tried to keep my routine having travelled to the US Open and London and I was just exercising and had chest pains and every symptom when you look up Google – full sweats and I felt awful,' Woodbridge told the Herald.

'I had a little heart episode that goes down as a mild heart attack which is a bit of a shock to me.

'I consider (I) lead a pretty good fit healthy lifestyle – I keep active, I eat well, I do all the right things, I enjoy doing that.

'It's been a wake-up call to me to make sure I look after myself. If it can happen to me it shows that it can happen to anybody.'

The event is the latest in a disturbing spate of heart attacks bringing down high profile Aussie athletes in their early 50s.

Cricket icon Shane Warne was 52 when he was found unresponsive in his luxury villa in Thailand after suffering a heart attack.

Just days later, former AFL star Dean Wallis, 52, suffered a major heart attack but survived the scare after he was rushed to hospital for life-saving surgery.

WA cricket great Ryan Campbell, 50, is also lucky to be alive after he was given just a seven per cent chance of survival after a cardiac arrest in April.

In May, West Coast Eagles premiership player Peter Matera, 53, suffered a heart attack while he was chopping wood on his property in Victoria. The AFL great was rushed to hospital where doctors put two stents placed in his heart.

Former Australian cricket coach Darren Lehman also survived a heart attack in the early hours of his 50th birthday - and was thankfully saved by a triple bypass surgery.

'I'd urge anybody out there coming off the last couple of years (of lockdowns), where we've gone, nah I'm OK, haven't been to doctors, haven't had check ups, to ensure you get out there and do that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-11309437/Todd-Woodbridge-heart-attack-warning-Shane-Warne-Darren-Lehmann-Dean-Wallis-Ryan-Campbell-tennis.html

All vaxxed to the max with the clot shot.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:19pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

Looks like the Florida surgeon gereneral is right.

Quote:

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:45pm

That Florida “analysis” on COVID vaccines is—you guessed it—total garbage

Experts roundly dubbed the analysis "utter rubbish," "extremely misleading," and "comically bad." Some called the analysis method "terrible," and one epidemiologist called it "the absolute most batshit study design & analysis plan I have ever seen." Others noted that the conclusion "smells of p-hacking" and data cherry-picking.

;D

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

Looks like the Florida surgeon gereneral is right.

[quote]
Todd Woodbridge survives heart attack and issues urgent health warning - after Shane Warne, Darren Lehmann and other top Australian athletes suffered major cardiac incidents around same age

Super fit Australian tennis champion Todd Woodbridge has encouraged people to get a health check after suffering a heart attack last week.

The 51-year-old commentator who won 16 grand slam doubles titles with doubles partner Mark Woodforde has described the incident as a 'wake-up call' of the hidden dangers even for the fittest of middle-aged people.

At 51, Woodbridge is a year younger than Shane Warne when he had his fatal attack while a slew of other Australian sports figures have had heart attacks around that same age.

'It was last Thursday, I tried to keep my routine having travelled to the US Open and London and I was just exercising and had chest pains and every symptom when you look up Google – full sweats and I felt awful,' Woodbridge told the Herald.

'I had a little heart episode that goes down as a mild heart attack which is a bit of a shock to me.

'I consider (I) lead a pretty good fit healthy lifestyle – I keep active, I eat well, I do all the right things, I enjoy doing that.

'It's been a wake-up call to me to make sure I look after myself. If it can happen to me it shows that it can happen to anybody.'

The event is the latest in a disturbing spate of heart attacks bringing down high profile Aussie athletes in their early 50s.

Cricket icon Shane Warne was 52 when he was found unresponsive in his luxury villa in Thailand after suffering a heart attack.

Just days later, former AFL star Dean Wallis, 52, suffered a major heart attack but survived the scare after he was rushed to hospital for life-saving surgery.

WA cricket great Ryan Campbell, 50, is also lucky to be alive after he was given just a seven per cent chance of survival after a cardiac arrest in April.

In May, West Coast Eagles premiership player Peter Matera, 53, suffered a heart attack while he was chopping wood on his property in Victoria. The AFL great was rushed to hospital where doctors put two stents placed in his heart.

Former Australian cricket coach Darren Lehman also survived a heart attack in the early hours of his 50th birthday - and was thankfully saved by a triple bypass surgery.

'I'd urge anybody out there coming off the last couple of years (of lockdowns), where we've gone, nah I'm OK, haven't been to doctors, haven't had check ups, to ensure you get out there and do that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-11309437/Todd-Woodbridge-heart-attack-warning-Shane-Warne-Darren-Lehmann-Dean-Wallis-Ryan-Campbell-tennis.html

All vaxxed to the max with the clot shot.[/quote]

Absolutely nothing unusual about fit athletes (and non-athletes) having heart attacks in their 50s.

Was happening in the same numbers well before COVID-19 vaccines ever existed.

Nothing to see here folks, except an insane anti-vaxxer in urgent need of professional help.

[/quote]

healthy 15 yo's having heart attacks and myocarditis !! Since when ??

the kill shot will get you groggary. You're on a time clock mate. No amount of denial will change that.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:09pm

Denial is not an antidote to the clot shot.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

All vaxxed to the max with the clot shot.

Absolutely nothing unusual about fit athletes (and non-athletes) having heart attacks in their 50s.

[/quote]

healthy 15 yo's having heart attacks and myocarditis !! Since when ??

[/quote]

Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.

The FL SG was right to advise younger men and kids to avoid it

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

~~Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.~~

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

~~Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.~~

Epidemiologists and public health experts spent the past weekend collectively shaking their heads at the latest harmful pronouncement from Florida's provocative surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, who on Friday announced that he was recommending against mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines for men ages 18 to 39.

Ladapo based his recommendation on a dubious analysis, which was posted online by the Florida Department of Health. According to a misleading press release from the department, the analysis found "an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination."

:D

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by aquascoot on Oct 14^th, 2022 at 6:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

~~Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.~~

incorrect.

our politicians and chief health officers who for 2 years banged on about jabs in arms will end this , now freely admit they were wrong and in fact , now say, even if you test positive, do what you want.

lol

dont be getting up the consistent people in florida who have a lower death rate then california and new york DESPITE having the oldest population in the USA.

have a look at the inconsistent goal post shifting lying and propaganda from the left who have thoroughly screwed this up

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by scope on Oct 14^th, 2022 at 8:07am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2022 at 6:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

~~Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.~~

Oh look more lies from horseboy, who has the nerve to call others liars,

What is it with you that you continually lie to try and make a point, you should be ashamed of yourself, you always get caught out, you still havent learned anything I see. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14^th, 2022 at 10:35am

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by buzzanddidj on Oct 15^th, 2022 at 7:23am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

The back peddling is just beginning. Watch them all duck for cover and the blame games begin.

You really DO live in a world of delusional fantasies,

DON'T you

* that wasn't a question

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by buzzanddidj on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 8:24am

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

... and as such, we shall be quoting the one in one thousand 'mavericks' keen to stand outside of the - for all intent and purpose - mainstream consensus

Florida Senate confirms controversial Dr. Joseph Ladapo
as surgeon general, on party lines

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/02/23/florida-senate-confirms-controversial-dr-joseph-ladapo-as-surgeon-general/

Why did all things COVID19 become a left/right issue ?

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 11:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

Quote:

October 26, 2022

ATAGI didn’t know about heightened risk of myocarditis in young men until five months after Pfizer, Moderna approval

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation has revealed it did not know of heart risks until five months after approving vaccines for use.

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) has revealed it did not know about the heightened risk of a heart condition called myocarditis from Covid vaccines until five months after they were approved for the public.

An updated document published by the health authority in late September has attracted serious attention this month — as it showed the side-effect was unknown to the group until May 2021.

The revelation raises questions over Australia’s vaccine mandates considering the risks associated with both Moderna and Pfizer jabs – which were highlighted by the health body.

The dossier points out the risk of heart issues in young males is higher with Moderna than with Pfizer.

“Pericarditis and myocarditis after Covid-19 vaccines have been mostly reported in males under 40 years of age, and mostly after the second dose,” it read.

“However, these conditions do occur in both females and males, at any age, and after any dose, including a third or fourth dose.

ATAGI now says it is “uncertain” whether the risk of myocarditis following Covid-19 infection remains higher than the risk following vaccination in the male 16-40 age group.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is also associated with an increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis, however ATAGI says the risk “appears” lower than with Moderna or Pfizer.

ATAGI now says it did not know about the heightened risk of myocarditis from the Pfizer vaccine until May 2021.

The vaccine was provisionally approved for use on 25 January, 2021 – almost five months prior.

In 2021, Covid-19 vaccinations were mandatory to enter public spaces and still continue to be a requirement for employment in a number of sectors.

ATAGI is still conducting regular reviews of “emerging evidence” from the most accelerated vaccination rollout in history

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/atagi-didnt-know-about-heightened-risk-of-myocarditis-in-young-men-until-five-months-after-pfizer-moderna-approval/news-story/8d9874d0acca0edbb49e626663625e39

The Florida surgeon general was right again.

Moderna is worse than Pfizzer for heart troubles and that vaccine was more common in the US.

The vaccine mandates were bullshit we know the vaccines do nothing to prevent transmission.

The vaccine nazis were wrong and like pedophiles they want to stick their little pricks into your kids.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by buzzanddidj on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

WWW search....
Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

To "google" something is not the hard work you make it out to be

First up ...

Fact Check-VAERS data does not prove over 2,000 deaths due to COVID-19 vaccines in July 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers-idUSL1N2PB2H3

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:40pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:05pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

WWW search....
Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

And let's not forget, Prashant Bhushan is an anti-vaxxer nut-job who spreads lies and misinformation.

Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 8:01pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:05pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

WWW search....
Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

reuters again :D LOL

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:13pm

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:15pm

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Title: Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Post by Dnarever on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:20pm

There must be something in Florida's water.

They seem to all be nutters.